Delete button: Thread pruning sometimes requires multiple passes but the Delete button always returns me to page 0. It would be more helpful if the Delete button returned me to the thread I was in.
If this screen mentioned that the post was an OP (and how many reports there are total ITT) we could handle very large queues faster. One of the previous janitor extensions used to tell us which posts were OP.
>>2058 which posts were OPAs in, the original post itself, I'm not asking to have subsequent posts by the original poster flagged.
Replace the Ban Request button with the dropdown and TEXTAREA and submit button.
>>2058It already does differentiate between an OP and a reply.If the reply to field is left blank, then the post is an OP post. If there is a value for 'reply to', then it is a reply to that particular OP.More verbose information would be nice, though. Like an expansion option to see what the content of the OP was without loading the page, or maybe just have the entire report queue open in a frame to the side or something, just for ease of use; not saying opening a new tab for the post or following a link in the same tab is a lot of work, but it would save a few seconds each report.
>>2066>or maybe just have the entire report queue open in a frame to the side or something, just for ease of use;Frameset or IFRAME or AJAX, I don't care, let's just make it less intensive on opening new windows / changing contexts just to do one task. Even new.php still had to open a window just to do a BR.
If I'm checking the context of the post, I'm likely not leaving the report page, so if post links could target "_blank" instead of the same page that would be more helpful.
So yeah, here I go.This here is my idea of an improved interface of the basic report details page.>What is new/What sh/could be changed?If the post is an OP post, it indicates that the post is the OP by being highlighted with a light-green color instead of the post number, it basically is imitating the old extension we used in the past.I also added mail and filename fields. It isn't uncommon for people to use mails to hide things or filenames to refer to something.I also thought about using your native time in the "Date" field, but that isn't really important.>What should definitely be fixed?The change of the spoiler magic from <spoiler> to <s> caused many problems, we all know that. It still isn't fixed on the reports pages and this here is my personal appeal to the Developers to fix it, please. ...I also just thought about this: The "Name" field shows both the name and the tripcode as normal styled text. In the image I attached, you can see that it could be very easy for someone who copy+pasted the name and trip to look like the "original", an "impostor", basically, if you want. I think there should be an indicator that shows what the name and the trip is.
>>2069>or filenames to refer to somethingTHIS. "funny" filenames are never going to leave chan culture until boards stop displaying them, and we get plenty of "too soon" sick joke filenames and NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER.JPG attention whoring. If it's in the post, it should be in the report, fullstop.
>>2073And preferably expand YT/soundcloud/whatever_embed since it's not the URL people are objecting to.
>>2057 Thanks for fixing this one.
Would it be possible to have the "page navigation at the top of page" option enabled by default for all users? I think it would increase catalog usage by a decent amount, thus leading to less duplicate threads.
I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but iI can't find a way to get the delete and br buttons on the mobile version of the site. All I seem to get is the report button and that's it, so that would be nice.
This has probably been covered, but after taking action on a report and being redirected to the reports page, the old report is still there until I refresh.
Is it possible to get which filetype the image is of a report if there is an image? Being able to tell if something is a gif or jpg or something could be handy at a glance.
Often times I'll clear a report only to have it show up again later. Such reports are often frivolous, but sometimes they are real rule violations that I simply missed the first time. However, clearing a report also resets the number of times a post has been reported. It would be nice if the number of times a post was reported was retained even if the report itself was cleared.
>>2137I'm guessing that this is Cloudflare caching all of www (including /reports). According to CF's own docs page, it's possible to set a rule to except "admin"-type nonpublic directories:https://support.cloudflare.com/entries/22576178-Is-there-a-tutorial-for-PageRules-If there's a reason we're not doing this already, apologies in advance for overstepping.
Two things:1. Please change this link to the actual board-post-hash link ( https://boards.4chan.org/tv/res/30196884#p30196884 ) instead of the sys post resolver link ( https://sys.4chan.org/tv/imgboard.php?res=30196884 ). sys is frequently slow and determining the context for the reported post shouldn't need to wait for this. Perhaps the report mechanism could resolve and cache the literal post link?2. My personal preference is to open those links in a new window. I'd just right-click it except that Adblock Plus --even when www.4chan.org is whitelisted-- somehow intercepts the click event for that region. What are other janitors' preferences for that link (open in same window/tab, open new one, open in IFRAME on page)?
>>2175And it seems like an inconsistent bug in Adblock, so feel free to ignore 2.
Would be nice if we could use the checkboxes to mass-BR, and if there was a 'select all' box at the top. I would use this for feel threads.Also would be nice if we could BR without deleting posts. This would be useful in situations where the post was still somewhat on-topic (or has many replies) and/or so others aren't immediately alerted to moderation going on.
I'd like to be able to see what page of the board a particular thread is on. Sometimes if the content straddles the line between tolerable and deletable, its easier to let the thread just die than to delete it. This requires the thread to be off the front page and steadily heading towards deletion, and being able to see that information on the thread itself is easier than having to find it on the board.
>>2207As long as it's not implemented yet you can use this script: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/130532
When logged in as a janitor, the 'Janitor Boards [Select]' option in the Settings panel doesn't have any sort of instructions. Perhaps this line could be added above the text field: "Enter the board codes (no slashes) for your assigned boards, separated by spaces. Ex: an po vg."
>>2210I do see a line of instructions like that, its written in the field and looks like this on Firefox
>>2211What busted ass version of Firefox are you using?The modal should be centered, as should the Save button.
I'd like to be able to set threads to auto-sage. I would use this in scenarios where a thread is either lightly breaking a rule or cancerous in general but has 100+ replies. In this situation, the thread usually has lots of people monitoring it who will notice if it disappears and will get upset.If we can already delete threads, I don't think an ability to auto-sage would increase janitor power.
>>2212ha I think I know what the issue is now. It looks different because I was accessing the Settings panel here on /j/. The save button is centered as you describe when you access Settings on a regular board, but just not here on /j/ it seems. Also the settings you make on the regular boards (Essential, Advanced, Admin etc) dont carry over here when you visit /j/.
>>2214This would be a really handy tool on my board that has the reply limit set to 500. It would be very effecetive at coping with a particular style of thread that is created to post about certain live sporting events or highlights shows that follow. They stay ontopic when the show/match is airing, but can deteriorat rapidly once the programme ends into an offtopic mess that just keeps on getting bumped, and with any real interest in the show/match having dissipated, it is unlikely to interest any users who didnt see the show/game. Also some users have a habit of creating "lightly breaking a rule or cancerous in general" threads in the disguise of ontopic or 'board culture', and I do delete and prune them while trying to use my best judgement, and this has proved effective. But you can blink and miss them and they'll reach 100+ replies in a matter of minutes. It might be a better option to use this approach rather than deleting them on certain occasions.
Re: stuff about /reports/ -- this will be completely overhauled at some point, so please stop making requests about it until we roll out the new version.>>2125Probably not.>>2126They aren't supported on the mobile view.>>2178The BR doesn't support multiple inputs, and the last thing I want is for people to submit hundreds of BRs from a single thread.>>2207I've also wanted this for a while. Possible we might be able to support it in the inline extension.>>2214>>2219Mods can already do this, and it will definitely not be extended to janitors.
>>2217Right. localStorage is only good for a specific subdomain, so your boards.4chan prefs aren't carried over to sys.4chan.
>>2223>I've also wanted this for a while. Possible we might be able to support it in the inline extension.Thank you based admins/devs.A tiny issue: [page #] is toggled on/off by the "Show Statistics" of the inline extension, but the mousover is outdated. Should belabel title="Display thread's page number, post and image counts at the top and bottom right of the page" or something
>>2232Woops, just realized that this is not a feature for users. Disregard, cocks, etc.
>>2223>They aren't supported on the mobile view.I just wanted to say that I use the firefox browser on my phone and I get the delete button and the Ban request button.
Is there a table somewhere showing the standard ban lengths for each template? It'd be nice to have a reference to give some sense of how "severe" a specific template is.
>>2259I like this idea - sometimes a post can fall under multiple BR templates and its nice to be able to have length as a factor for consideration.
I think the collaborative aspect of janitoring could be improved somewhat. For example, if we could see how many other janitors were "active" on our board at any given time, we would know when to be most attentive (e.g. when no other janitors are active). On the larger boards it would be helpful to see which janitor was dealing with which report. Not by name or anything, but just a little marking or highlight that says "someone else is dealing with this."
This isn't hypothetical, this is a modified chrome extension I've been working on. The post numbers put the post into the iframe; the + still does what it normally does but arguably it's not even necessary any more unless you really, really need to know the breakdown on illegal/rule violation or other stats like that.
>>2276 OP didn't read>>2223Disregard, cocks, etc.
Can it be possible to display how many threads there are when using the Catalog Mode?
Maybe an option to delete the text only. Sometimes the user posts a nice contributing image, yet the comments are just trolling or whatnot but not severe enough for a ban.
>>2386neat idea. We know that posts can be altered "after the fact" (stickies, bannings, etc.) so this should be possible.
>Re: stuff about /reports/ -- this will be completely overhauled at some point, so please stop making requests about it until we roll out the new version..It seems like the "clear" button is unnecessary on /-cleared as of now.
More warning options on different boards for janitors like how they have "warn: modern games" for /vr/. Possibly an option for leaving posts but still issuing a warning. That would be useful for posts where someone is replying to multiple people, and half the post is on-topic, insightful and contains useful information and the other half contains "typical XXXX, ur a faget kill urself" or other such garbage.
Ability to delete/BR threads from the catalog? Either with buttons on the image itself like the thread watcher clover, below the image, or through keyboard shortcuts?
>>2386>>3163Definately seconding these. Being able to deleted text and leave the image would really fix a lot of the issues (and trolling posts) and warnings could also help in that area too.
>>3163Not sure this is quite the right thread, but I agree completely with expanding warning abilities for janitors. If nothing else, warning templates shouldn't shouldn't apply a 15-minute block while pending like ban templates do -- that's much too severe for a pending warn.Deleting text doesn't sound particularly useful to me. Catalog delete/BR was probably not implemented on purpose, and I think it's a good idea to at least glance through a thread before you do anything to it, no matter how obvious a violation the OP is.
>>3166I was thinking more along the lines of utility during raids/proxy spam
>>3167I feel like janitors aren't meant to be equipped to handle floods.
>>3166I agree, there shouldn't be a 15 minute cooldown for a pending warn. I think you were responding to another janitor with the second part of your post but to clarify my suggestion, I was suggesting an option for NOT deleting posts on a warn request rather than deleting/editing text. At risk of being in the wrong thread again, I wonder if janitors might get the ability to warn directly in the future; there are nothing but positives for that being a feature provided that janitors are only allowed to warn via template reasons. If there's no cooldown to posting there would be no affect to warned users beyond deletion (which janitors can do currently, en masse even) except informing them of the reason why their post was deleted. I know moot has said that posts should only get BR for obvious, striking reasons (so if they merited only a warning they shouldn't be BR'd) but I could see some BR being turned into warnings instead, which would be in-line with >>3074 and also reduce the amount of BRs mods/admins have to sift through.
>>3170Seconded on all counts, and yeah, I was responding to other posts in the second half of mine.An upgrade to nearly mod-level warning abilities for janitors (excluding custom reasons) might seem like a big step, but it's not a matter of giving janitors more power. Rather, it's a matter of communication. Deleting a post is already more destructive than issuing a warning, and sends less of a message (or sends the wrong one -- "janitors deleted my post because they didn't like it"). There are certainly cases where a BR is too much and a deletion is either not enough or simply misses the point.But, if applying warnings directly is still considered too much for janitors, a warning template for most if not all of the global rules would be a great help, along with potentially removing the 15-minute block and even modifying the templates so they don't delete the targeted post.
This here is a suggestion to make the ban request system more dynamic. As of now, there are selectable ban templates for content that is allowed on some boards.There is just no reason to ban (request) someone for posting ponies on /mlp/ or even for requesting on /r/!An updated system could prevent trouble and save time.We should get rid of the following ban templates:>Global 3 on /b/>Global 3 /pol/ on /pol/>Global 5 on all NSFW boards>Global 15 on /mlp/, Global 16 on /r/
Could janitors please receive the ability to ban request users who falsely report posts?It makes my job 10x harder when I have to weave through tons of randomly reported posts.Often times it's usually just one person on a random reporting spree.
>>3308I'd second that, only because they've gotten worse as of late. When you have to shift through a ton of fake reports (because they don't agree with their options, whatnot) to get to the legit ones does seem to be a bit of a problem.I do think it would be useful to test on the boards where it would likely be an issue if it was thought useful.
When using 4chan x I can't seem to submit posts when I'm logged in as a janitor.The submit button just won't work.Anyone know a fix?
>>3344Do you use 4chan X' quick reply?
>>3345Yep. I just disabled it and turned on 4chan's default quick reply which allows me to post but now I have a new problem.Whenever I'm replying to a thread from the first page of a board I can't submit it unless I upload a file with that post. (Error: No file selected.)Also even though it's enabled there isn't an [x] delete post/BR option beside posts on the boards that I janitor.
>>3345>>3346Actually now even when I post with an image it just creates a new thread rather than replying.
>>3346>Yep. I just disabled it and turned on 4chan's default quick reply which allows me to postTurns out 4chan X isn't made to support janitors.>Whenever I'm replying to a thread from the first page of a board I can't submit it unless I upload a file with that post. (Error: No file selected.)I believe it's got something with the updated "Index Navigation" option; 4chan X is overwriting the native extension and is more or less breaking our tools. I already asked a 4chan X developer to make this optional.
>>3348Are there any extensions I could use to do all/most of the things I was able to do with 4chan x while still being able to janitor boards?Everything was working fine before I deleted my cookies.
>>3349Either you or someone else codes a third-party 4chan X Janitor Extension and fixes the problems or you go for the native extension.
Minor bug report. Opening some stickies brings up older announcements.>>>/hr/1608760>>>/vr/1216281>>>/p/1971605
Maybe from the catalog page, there should be an option for deleting or ban requesting a thread as well. Sometimes there are ones you don't even need to look at to know it's just spam.
>>4285This would REALLY help.
What about two views when viewing threads, one the normal style and one, side-by-side style, closer together, sorta like you'd see on the...cough*booru*cough...sites without the text. Or even if there was a way to make the a thread stay in the format of the catalog that would be awesome too. But that's just me. I don't know if anyone else is into it.
Inline expansion of posts in the report view on the report queue, sometimes you look at the post and it's a hassle to follow the conversation, so you need to open the thread in a new tab to do just that. Like hover expansion would already be enough
>>2057I really think it would be handy to have a toggle on the Reports page that allowed you to sort between OP posts, and replies to threads that have been reported.I always try and deal with entire threads dedicated to shitposting before I handle individual shitposts, this would just make that a little easier.I am also all for this >>3308>Could janitors please receive the ability to ban request users who falsely report posts?>It makes my job 10x harder when I have to weave through tons of randomly reported posts.
>>4521>Inline expansion of posts in the report view on the report queue,This would also be absolutely amazing,
I see that this has already been mentioned, but the ability to issue warnings without deleting posts would be nice. Some guy was just avatarfagging on /pol/, but his posts themselves weren't that bad and I didn't particularly want to delete them.I also wouldn't mind having the report queue have an auto-update setting which changes the favicon when new reports arrive (a la 4chan X) and maybe optional non-intrusive desktop notifications. As is, I have a different extension which refreshes the page and I wrote a script for GreaseMonkey to check whether or not the page content is different between refreshes, but it's a lot clunkier than it could be.
>>4705>I also wouldn't mind having the report queue have an auto-update settingSeconding this, please.
>>4705One more thing I just remembered was bugging me, if you do add an auto-update, could the (# of reports) be moved to the front of the tab name? Makes it easier to tell when something is happening. I know that there's an auto-updating ui element in threads, but I don't always have a 4chan thread as my active tab so it isn't always useful.
This is probably intentional, but I figure I'd ask: when clearing a post in the queue, it does that little fade in/out animation, but it only actually clears the post when the animation is finished, meaning that I can click Clear, close the tab, and have no action performed. Is that there for a reason?
>>4722It's there to let you undo any action you did by mistake. If you open the settings panel you'll see that the U key is by default binded to "Undo last action".
>>4722If you click twice it seems to clear/delete reported posts faster.>>4723Nice trivia, I wasn't aware of that.
I think a good feature for moderation UI would be to have a BR template for a thread permasage request. Then, a moderator would approve it or deny it from their queue, making it unnecessary to try to get a mod's attention on the IRC.
>>4731I second this
I wouldn't mind the BR tool having a comment section. Not to add to the ban, but so that when a moderator reviews the BR, they can understand the context of the BR better.For example, whenever I BR a thread as spam because it keeps getting made over and over again in exactly the same way, the mods have no way to know that that's why it was reported as such. A textbox where I could provide a link to the archives showing how many times that particular thread has been made would be helpful.
I'm constantly seeing requests for a religious & spirituality board. That way they can get all that stuff out of /x/ Maybe test one out for the summer?
>>4741That would probably be a haven for shitposting. Although probably not more-so than any other board.
Could you maybe add something to quickly get to the top of the report queue? I know it's just a minor thing, but having to scroll up manually takes about 1-2 seconds and since we have pic related on the rest of the board I just wanted to suggest it.
>>4750Does pressing the Home key work?
>>4751It does. Thanks for the tip.
>>2057So, I've been a little distracted the last few days as a result of E3, but I just noticed today that spam is no longer an option when reporting a post?Just wondering if this is a permanent change, or related to the current bug with illegal reports. If it is permanent, are there any major changes taking place that the janis should be keeping in mind?Apologies in advance if I'm just out of the loop in regards to this change,
>>4771The illegal reports bug presumably came about as a result of the tinkering to remove the commercial spam option.
Since it was pointed out on the chat and I came across this problem before, the mods can't be aware of each board's traditions or memes, so sometimes a post may seem harmless to them but it is actually a shitpost or an attempt to derail.Instead of having to explain the situation at length on the IRC while BR'ing, there could be an easier solution to this.I was hoping maybe we could add an extra BR template that is essentially a blank and the janitor could fill it out to explain the situation to a mod. This template would only be used in cases where the janitor feels the post is not really obvious bait and would require context to be fully comprehended.It could also just be a case where a guy is maybe spamming unrelated images/info as an attempt to derail the thread. Normally the jani would have to BR one of the posts, delete the rest then try to find a mod in the IRC to explain what happened. Instead they could just use this template and say : "user was trying to derail, see posts >>xxxxxxx and >>xxxxx , etc. that were deleted"I imagine it would also be a whole lot easier and faster for the mods to go through the BR queue if they have an explanation already prepared when they see the request.
>>4844Alternatively, a 'comments' section in the existing BR templates for if a janitor feels it necessary to provide additional context for a BR.A blank template may be begging for abuse, but a simple comments field could be a more direct solution, as sometimes making contact through IRC can be difficult.
>>4844>>4845I know that there has been a move away from custom ban templates, against giving tools to janitors that blur their class between end user and moderator, but I do think something like this would be useful.Especially at night, there are large gaps in moderation. Of course, it will never completely go away but it wasn't uncommon to see only 6 or 7 OPs a few weeks ago, and even now there sometimes are only one or two mods, who will go through the ban queue once an hour or longer. I'm not trying to blame or put pressure on mods - it's an incredibly demanding task to balance the needs of 4chan and always will be, but it's also tough for the mod who does it to go through specific bans for boards he is unfamiliar with. People find new ways to shitpost everyday, even mods familiar with their own board are not aware of every intricacy. It is only more work for them to have to go through IRC to read everything and every detail of each ban, and we can't expect them to be aware of the intricate details of every small subculture in one general on one board.We either need something to streamline this, or more mod support at night. I've noticed this for other large boards as well, but often there are just one of us active going through huge report queues and it's not easy or feasible to go through 100 or more by yourself if nobody is able to check who's evading, or samefagging and shitting up a thread, having to give details for 3 or so ban requests, even pinging fellow janitors isn't always available for getting an opinion on something or asking about something you are unfamiliar with, dealing with raids and CP, etc.I know this is likely a complaint old as time for /j/, 'we need more mods online' and so on, I don't know how other janitors feel so I figured I'd ask. You have to make a lot of potentially risky judgment calls (that or leave those posts up for however long) when there are no mods, or even fellow janitors, for a large board.
>>4849There are many situations where you are told to 'ping a mod' to refer to something, even on /j/ threads which I often lurk for context on many things, I see old threads saying "lets compile common questions here" but people replying "the IRC is here for your questions' but there is often nobody around for your specific board at night to ping and ask. Best you can do is ask a fellow janitor, which helps in some cases, but not board specific ones.
>>4849>>4844>>4845I agree with this. During early CET morning there's not enough mods for "ping a mod" to be a valid answer for anything. More than often I've found myself in need of help while not a single mod was available for hours, and there's so much stuff going on with each board that I don't understand why a ban request comment is not yet implemented.Sure, we should not BR something if it's not immediately obvious that a post is breaking a rule, but more than often in one of my boards it happens that someone starts making very different threads with a common subject in order to shit everything up, or it happens that a proxy-jumping anonymous evader starts samefagging and jumping IPs in the same thread and the only way to tell is from context and knowledge of the board, that a mod going through the queue might not have.>>4850Janitors are not equipped to fight spam - we simply do not have the tools to do it - so asking another janitor for help is not really useful, even more so knowing that in the dead hours where there's no mod available, there's also a huge lack of janitors and at most there's one person per board if you're lucky.
