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this is a backup thread
feel free to use it if, for whatever reason, you ever find yourself unable to get ahold of the mods or janitors (e.g. discord experiences an outage)
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I sure do love discord, it is such a stable application and nothing ever goes wrong with it
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DISCORD IS JUST THE BEST AIN'T IT
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Hi everyone
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>>7354
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>>7354
Do not post staff usernames on /j/
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Looks like discord won't connect for me :(
Checked the server status and says there's some server issues
Guess I'll be janooming awol for a bit
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Discord ded
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>>7220
discords down rn, post here if its urgent
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Packets are safu. Just keep retrying until they make it through.
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So when are we switching to a Discord alternative?
/g/ jannies report in.
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>>7566
We should just go back to IRC already.
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>>7567
Nooooooo! Please think of the zoomers! Like me!
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>>7567
IRC a shit. Do you remember how hard it was to fill the chat with live2d characters back then? Yeah that's right.
We need to migrate to phpBB.
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>>7566
>he's not in the secret janitor irc channel
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please make an irc bridge and let us use that instead...
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>>7572
time to grow up boomer irc is a dead dinosaur technology and all the professionals are on discord now
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>>7573
professional furries*
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>>7569
>phpBB
We may as well just start using /j/ unironically.
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>>7576
Hey, we use /j/ unironically! But also ironically for shitposting purposes.
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Hello
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>>7619
hi
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>>7622
:D
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test
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>>7684
Thank god that I didn't necrobump a 14 year old thread.
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>>7685
what, precisely, is the issue with necrobumping 14 year old threads again?
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>>7697
You might bring the wrath of the Gods upon you.
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>>7685
>2019 was 24 years ago
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>>7849
4chan is closed. We did it, boiz.
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>>7849
all me btw
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Mochi mochi
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>>7220
t-tasukete...
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Orientation is happening for a new janny and Discord is shitting the bed. Very good.
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i don't think i can make it... i have to go a couple minutes without discord...
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Is Discord down or is my shit just not working?
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>>8254
works for me =|:^3
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>>8255
I don't trust Mods, stop gangstalking me.
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>>8262
IS TURKEY GOOD FOR YOU???
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>>8262
ill baste that if u knmow what i mean
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Are we allowed to delete generic pepe/wojak etc OP images (pic related) when they are just placeholders for the OP image and doesn't relate to the thread in any way? I sometimes see them getting deleted by other jannies/mods, but figured out it's best to get a clarification before accidentally starting a frog genocide
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>>8362
mods delete this please
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>>8362
>I'm meant to moderate things for no apparent reason
What did he mean by this?
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>>no apparent reason
Encouraging using on-topic images?
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>>8362
>HNNNGEEH
>BNNGHEEEYUUEEHGHH
>BONNGA WONNGA DONNGA BONGY
>YUOEEEOEOEHAOHAHEOHAOEHOAHOAHOAEH
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>>8368
People don't have to be "on-topic" 100% of the time, you're only meant to remove Off-Topic content and other rule violations. Someone posting a frog in of itself doesn't warrant deletion when he's not even derailing a thread or trying to bait posts of some kind or whatever else could warrant a file deletion.
Moderate rule breaking content or things that have a high likelihood of resulting in rule breaking posts, not people posting inconsequential images.
>Not everything that gets reported needs to be deleted or banned; don't hesitate to use the clear button if no rule is broken.
>Keep in mind: People come to 4chan to have fun
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>>8369
It would be an interesting experiment to delete this posts image to leave without any context
>>8371
That's fair, but I should note this isn't something I just thought and proposed - I saw it happening before, and some search on 4chan archiving sites shows users have complained/praised about this on multiple boards before. Perhaps there are mods with different opinions on this, and that's why I decided to ask on /j/ where we are anonymous
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>>8372
>I saw it happening before
Keep in mind that janitors will only know they're doing something wrong if they ask or if they're corrected, this could take years of doing something wrong before it happens.
>users
Listening to users is a surefire way of over-moderating things.
>Perhaps there are mods with different opinions on this
I can think of particular cases, yes, but even they'll tell you something like: "NOOOOOOOO MUH PARTICULAR BORDERINO CAN'T HAVE X IMAGE THE OFF-TOPIC RULE CLEARLY ALLOWS YOU TO DELETE ANYTHING THAT ISN'T TOPICAL!!! IT STAYING UP WOULD, HMMM, IT JUST WOULD RUIN THE BOARD OKAY???!!!! Oh, on other boards? Sorry, this only applies to this board because of board culture and since it's le special :^)".
>Inb4 "NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SHIT TALK MY BORDERINO HECKIN MODERATION!!!!"
If the shoe fits...
>that's why I decided to ask on /j/ where we are anonymous
I don't think this subject is that consequential that you'd need the veil of anonymity in order to get honest second opinions. Hopefully you don't have reservations about DMing mods with questions or posting in moderation.
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>>8362
Personally, I feel that for OP images ESPECIALLY, it's very important from a board quality perspective that the image that starts the thread is on-topic with the board's subject matter. The OP image is the "Cover" of the thread to me. When I view the Gallery, it shows me a display of images. Take /vg/ for example, if I go on there right now, I see a wide variety of different items. Let's say I'm looking for a thread about Dragon Ball -- At a glance, I can see a thread with the OP image of Super Saiyan Blue Goku and immediately be clued in that that thread might be just what I'm looking for without having to read further into it.
Now imagine if the entire board was Pepes or Wojaks. Sure I can just dig around by reading the thread subjects, or typing "Dragon Ball" into search, but why should the cover of the Dragon Ball General thread be a completely unrelated frog? To a normal user this would be in my opinion a lower quality experience than if the thread OP was posted with an image relevant to the intended discussion.
Now, if someone is using a pepe or wojak in their reply within the thread? This is less impactful to the board's quality. In my opinion it's still lower quality than if the poster had used an on-topic image, but it's not that big of a deal since it isn't what will persist on the main page of the board for potentially days if the thread is slow enough.
The /vg/ example can be generally applied to most boards that have specific topics in mind. Imagine if someone posted a Madoka thread on /a/, or an Evangeleon thread on /w/, but instead of a related image they used a wojak. Definitely a stark contrast. But if they did the same thing on a more generalized board such as /b/, /g/ or /biz/ for example, well it's not like I'm looking for a particular theme when I look for threads on there anyhow, so it's less impactful on the board's quality.
These are just my thoughts on the subject as to why it might be different depending on the board.
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>>8362
I sometimes see people complain about Pepe/Wojak OP images, in which case I just delete the image and complaint post, and leave it at that.

I haven't been told NOT to do this, so I assume it's not wrong.

>>8376
I agree pretty strongly with this. Unless it's like a topical themed Pepe/Wojak that fits the thread theme, I think it's a poor OP image.
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discord outage appears to be happening.
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I have no mop and I must clean
[spoiler]Can we still Janitor with Discord like this, or should I wait?[/spoiler]
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wher were u wen discord was kill?
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>>8384
go bakc to reddit discordfag
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>>8384
if it's something obvious like NWS or something that needs immediate attention, then sure. if you're unsure just leave it and wait until discord comes back, or post here about it
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>>8386
Watch where you point that thing!
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>>8391
>no trigger discipline
If your finger is on the trigger then be ready to cap a nigga.
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>>8392
>pic
me
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Outage time? Outage time.
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>>8424
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>>8424
>>8425
back already :(
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discord bros...
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>>7220
I just wanted to let my /biz/ bros know that AMD is going up :)
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Discord is down, party hard
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whoops
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And I thought I was fired...
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how do I post on /j/ help
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t-thanks Discord
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>>8461>>8460
You did it!
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>>8463
woah how did you make your post gay?
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I can't handle life without discord. I think I'm dying
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>>8465
frog image
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>>8463
haha you forgot your line break
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discord bork
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happy birthday to our favorite mod
(again)
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>>9507
It's not my birthday.
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>>9517
Did you Van Gogh your other ear?
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>>9517
>reddit.com.png
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Discord is down...
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DISCORD ON THESE NUTS!
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>>9626
seems to be a bunch of server outages all over
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>discord down
Who do we blame for this?
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>>9699
we need to go back to rizon
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>>9797
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU CAN'T MAKE ME GO BACK
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RETVRN TO TRADITION
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>>9960
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sometimes i do wonder if perhaps other chat platforms have developed to the degree that they'd be more appropriate than discord, just from a privacy and ease of use standpoint, since so many people these days have personal accounts. discord's own convenience is a double edged sword in that regard
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>>9995
But IRC has been around for decades now.
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>>10000
IRC is practically unusable on most mobile devices because of app background rate limits/throttling
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>>9995
i second this viewpoint; personally, i feel we should return to Rizon
>>10002
used a 2010 era smartphone to connect to #4chan on rizon net when the site was down and the channel was highly active with no issues

i think the main problem with going back to IRC would be a majority of janitors simply wouldn't know how to get in. it's an ease of installation/use issue.

shame rlly
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>>10004
I mean we're all already on Discord so it shouldn't be that hard to give support to the few that can't figure it out for whatever reason there. Personally I don't have that much of a preference either way, though in some ways Discord can make it easier to look up past archives of discussions, which could be seen as both a merit and demerit depending on the situation, but I often find useful to do a quick search to see if a topic has come up before, or backread stuff that was said while I was away. As far as I know IRC only really shows you stuff that was said when you were online to see it? (Though I haven't used it that much so could be wrong.)

Also from what I've heard being able to do voice calls on Discord has at least made the initial orientation process easier compared to however it used to work, though that's only really relevant during that onboarding period.
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>>10006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_(software)
there's this but it's yet another step for janitors
also, you raise a good point about onboarding
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>>10004
sorry, i wasn't clear. the apps work perfectly well in the foreground. but their internet access while in the background is greatly limited if not entirely restricted, which makes mobile push notifications more or less impossible
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>>10008
right, that's something i hadn't considered
thanks for clarifying
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>>10004
I use IRC a lot but honestly it just doesnt have enough features for our purposes. It isn't fit for purpose for janiteam.
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>>10011
>enough features for our purposes.
irc needs fregs
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>>10015
Frankly, this.
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Since Discord doesn't like its users' internet anonymity, the way I was bypassing government block on Discord got me locked out of my account - I already tried the usual ways to get myself back in. I created a new account which I *believe* is safe from getting locked out again.
I'll email GA about this, but I also recently lost my personal mail server so I need my e-mail address changed too orz
Making this post here is my only means to vouch myself for the random e-mail I'll send.
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Lost my discord account due to stupid, sent an email to RA
Hoping he sees it soon because having reports in the queue is going to drive me insane
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>>10263
if anyone else sees this post, i have it on good authority that it's since been sorted out (so no need to ping RA about it)
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I have the mandate of heaven and discord pooping won't stop me from declaring it.
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>>10268
>and discord pooping won't stop me from declaring it.
frank's pooping could stop a freight train, don't get cocky
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>>10288
>frank's pooping could stop a freight train, don't get cocky
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a toast: to no more discord



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