I propose a new chatfilter for the word 'chud'.It's become probably one of the most commonly used words I see used in troll posts and I think its become some kind of trigger word that immediately derails every single thread into culture war bullshit. It's like clockwork.I'm not sure what we should change it to, but the word has become too powerful.
>>9021>I propose a new chatfilter for the word 'chud'.
>>9021It's not much different from the word 'fag' imo.
>>9023It is because it's politically charged. Fag is just a pejorative and doesn't derail an entire thread into culture war fighting. Chud does that. I've seen it happen countless times when a perfectly good thread gets someone posting chud and the next 50+ replies are anons raging about politics and trannies and all I can't help but think is, 'isn't this a video game thread?'. It's not so different from a word like 'onions', which we do filter.
"chud" becomes "roody-poo" like in the old days
>>9022kek
>>9025this could work potentially. It has to be something that just kinda takes the fun away from the trolls trying to use the word to stir up shit.
>>9021chud, troon, goy, etc. are all symptoms of the larger problem (anons who want every board to be &/pol/ or who are just relentless shitposters) and I don't think picking one of a half-dozen words that send some anons into a tizzy is going to fix it, although I guess the onions filter has helped? but I think the underlying cause has less to do with any particular word and more to do with some anon's deep seated desire to tell everyone just what they think about X group at every opportunity.
>>9028At the very least I think implementing a chud filter would make it more difficult to derail threads.
Is goyslop still filtered? as a fit jani I didn't like seeing the hate on goyslop. Disgusting highly processed american food should be mocked and no one actually uses the term as a derogation to the Jewish community
>>9028>chudChum.>troonTrooper.>goyMah Boi.4chan is now fixed.
filters simply make the word notorious and make people want to evade it
>>9036perhaps some will evade it, but I think you overestimate the average attention span of these posters. It takes extra work that most shitposters that are just there to farm (you)s and derail won't bother with. The onions filter killed the constant use of that word, and while some still evade the word filter, most don't bother. The point of all of this wouldn't be to nuke the word from existence simply make it harder to derail threads with it.
>>9036Sure, but then how many instances of "desu", "baka", and "senpai" filter evasion do you see nowadays?
>>9021The only reason why desu, baka and senpai exist is because I believe that they were considered to be normieshit so the Mods didn't want it to spread, or something of the sort. Chud is like the least of anyone's problems, we've joked for years that tranny should be changed to bodybuilder but nothing has ever come of it bodybuilder janny. Fuck bodybuilders. WTF I SAID BODYBUILDER.
>>9037>>9038isn't that just the trend of using those words dying out? the word itself has already lost it's novelty, it's only used in conjunction with other off topic bait, and there's no need to draw attention to the word at this stage, because giving something attention by the moderator team in such a public manner seems unnecessarythis is the case on /v/, if it's a massive problem on other boards then i can't/won't dispute your posts
>>9040/v/ tends to be ahead of the curve in terms of board problems, but I see your overall point.It might be better to let certain types of bait die out naturally as people stop being fooled by them.
>>9023I disagree, Anon's right when he says that it's strongly politically charged, particularly from a 4chan perspective, and that anyone who's using it is beyond the shadow of a doubt looking to cause ire. If you aren't talking 1980s horror movies, or quoting someone else in some instance, you're making an ironic shitpost or you're outright trolling, in the worst case you're looking to signal to people how progressive you are and unlike all the conservatives here on 4chan.Fag, for one, is basically a neutral suffix on 4chan. Everyone's a fag, I'm a fag, you're a fag, he's a fag, those guys are fags, and it can be used just as well as a pejorative as a term of endearment. There's all these fags on my board who I love, I love drawfags. For another, fag is the kind of immature lingo thrown around by young boys at school, and it has always suited the young boyish nature of the site.>>9025Or as simple as filtering it from chud to chad, which completely changes the tone of any statement.
>>9028I think the onions filter did a decent enough job to cut it back, so I think it could help with other ones. Apparently the word filter is resource intensive, however.>>9033Perhaps that's more the case on /fit/, I don't know, but you're incredibly gullible if you don't think that isn't an explicitly politically charged word, or that it's not used very intentionally by the poster to eiher signal their virtue, or hoping to provoke offtopic discussion. With goy as a suffix it explicitly suggests an intent by ominous jewish masters towards the common man, there's exactly zero ambiguity on this part.People can just say trash garbage for fags with no taste, low quality shit for the lowest common denominator, or outright just say the normal world slop, that certainly conveys enough.>>9036I disagree, filters have done a lot through the years. With all the BAKA, SENPAI, DESU, shit, it was fairly shortly curtailed. Same with the onions filter.
>>9037Exactly this, it kills the majority of the lowest effort shit.>>9039I think that would be funny and I still support it.>>9040There's definitely obnoxious buzzword usage on other boards. Tranny has only grown yet more prevalent.
>>9047>shit, it was fairly shortly curtailednot without a temporary boost in notorietywhich you're right about it curtailing but those terms were based off normie social media, i believe there's a danger in drawing unnecessary notoriety/attention/validation to terms that as you so aptly point out, are politically chargedand a simple word filter won't stop anons from creating threads that reflect a desire to shitpost/discuss/derail with the newest or latest political outrage, thinly veiled political threads over the ethnicity of video game characters for example, will still run rampant over /v/ regardless of word filters and now that i've thought about it, this starts to veer into curtailing that very important freedom of discussion anons have (because unlike it being an annoying overused pop media term, it involves politics), even if 4chan moderation ultimately reserves some sort of right to steer what kind of discussion takes place here
>>9046>Or as simple as filtering it from chud to chad,This filter would be 4chan making a political statement.
>>9057indeed, if it was implemented the word it filtered to would need to be an innocuous word.
>>9059Filter chud to Sneed and Sneed to chud and see how long it takes people to realize it's the site and not user error.
Filter "chud" to senpaiFilter "tranny" and "troon" to peopleFilter goy to "good"You're welcome, I've solved 4chan
set a rotating set of wordfilters, anything that needs filtering gets a new word picked from a big dictionary list. Prevents anyone just mentally "fixing" what they read.
>>9159>Filter goy to "good"Only when part of another word, like how s+oyjak becomes basedjak. Maybe just goy could be baka? "Good baka, eat your goodslop like the goodcattle you are"
>>9159By senpai I meant f-am>>9160No need. Wordfilters already do enough. It's like how you know what "bleep you" on TV is but it still feels completely different actually hearing it
>>9021Filter it to cannabilistic humanoid underground dweller. That's what C.H.U.D means anyway.
>>9021Remove ALL chatfilters
>>9187i second this, besides ones actually used for moderation of sensitive info
>>9187>>9188disagree. I think they are funny
It's not nearly as common as other words were at their peaks. This seems like a big overstep imo.