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Unsure how much information on this can be shared, if any, but I'm curious what criteria is considered when deciding to open a new board. Even as a janitor, it's a very opaque process that doesn't seem to follow any consistent logic (observable).

I can offer a few examples from the newer boards.
/vt/ was obviously created due to immense demand for it, and it has quickly grown to becoming one of the most active boards on the site. In contrast, it feels like it's been well over a decade of users begging for some kind of internet celebrity board and those requests have gone unanswered, despite the fact that there is clearly interest in it (/v/ janitors will have firsthand experience seeing this demand from deleting threads on this subject). What's the difference between these two things? Is it just a subjective thing, that the 4chan team does not want standalone boards dedicated to certain topics?

Then at the same time, we get boards like /qst/ or /vmg/ that don't even get 1000 posts in a day and nobody was really asking for, so clearly demand isn't the only thing considered, or even necessary.

For my part I'm asking this because I think it may be worth considering some kind of /ai/ board for posting AI generated content, whether it be audio, images, video, text, etc. /g/ has several ai related generals and most don't discuss the technology but are instead just dumping grounds for content, and I think there's an opportunity here to separate that space and allow it to scale. It's just hard to argue for this when I don't really understand what the common thread between newly created boards is.
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also I just noticed the 4chan blotter doesn't include /vt/
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from what I've seen, new boards have always shown up because there was some topic in (original board) that was technically on topic, but dominating a good portion of the threads. I think /ai/ is coming next, screencap this
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>>9838
I saw mods say once they would never agree to make an internet celebrity board, I think it was due to probable doxx shit or something. As for the AI board I think there was some discussion about it and was considered but there were infrastructure concerns that had to be first reviewed, plus all the craze has died now quite a bit in comparison to when the first AI toys were around.

All in all, stuff above our pay grade (0 dollars per hour)
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>>9841
>All in all, stuff above our pay grade (0 dollars per hour)
cant wait till 4chan goes public and we get shares
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>>9841
>never agree to make an internet celebrity board
>due to probable doxx shit or something
I feel like I've heard the same, but it doesn't really make sense to me now that /vt/ exists
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>>9843
/vt/ was mentioned in that conversation too. paraphrasing from memory so it's not 100% accurate but it was something like, "/vt/ is already enough of a headache and a full e-celeb board would be awful to handle so it'll never be signed off on"
full-on e-celeb garbage being mostly moved to /trash/ or /b/ is a decent way to throttle the cancer that comes from non-stop e-celeb obsession.
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>>9843
chuubas are ostensibly separate from the human puppeteering the digital waifu, and there's still trouble with IRL spillover. If it was all mask-off real humans, it'd be way worse
but I'm not a /vt/ janny so my 2 cents is worth 0 cents
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>>9848
Yeah, I think defining who is and isn't exactly an e-celeb could also be very murky
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>>9838
From what I understand, the biggest thing mods consider when deciding on new boards is if it will have longevity. 4chan doesn't really do trial boards anymore so if a board is made then it's here for good.
(^^ This could be totally wrong btw)
When AI art threads started to become a thing and jannies started to ask about an /ai/ board, mods basically said to wait it out and see if it's a fad or not. There's also other things to consider like if it would be worksafe or not, would it just be imagedumps or would threads about new developments, model discussion, how-tos, etc be kosher. Personally I think it would be a successful and productive board, and I'd probably volunteer to janny it if it were made.
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>>9838
we should make a /j/ board so all the janitors can talk to one another
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>>9866
it'll never work
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>>9866
But who will janny the janitor board?
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>>9866
I spoke to a janitor once, it was horrible
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>>9866
Oh man, if only. It would be more organic to regular 4chan, could keep us feeling the Spirit of Anonymous. Imagine how disconnected from the average user we'd be if we spent all our time in a Discord chat with names and avatars and reputations...
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>>9866
that would be retarded
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>>9868
me
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>>9866
YOU. SICK. BASTARD!!!!!!!!!1!!!!1!one
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>>9838
Qst was made simply to stop quests and CYOA threads from being posted on /tg/.
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>>9838
am i the only one suprised to see that /b/ is 5th with less than half the activity of #1?
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>>9919
/b/ was originally the only "fuck around aimlessly" board.
Since then we now have /r9k/, /bant/, [s4s], and /trash/, and each of those has its own unique board shitpost culture. /b/ is close to unusable if your goal is to say something stupid and have others react to it, which is less true of the other no-topic boards. /b/ is islands of porn and people venting what they can't post anywhere else, floating in a sea of ritualised spam.

/b/ 48 posts/min, 64 threads/hour
/trash/ 28 posts/min, 3 threads/hour (no idea how many threads get moved here, but I would bet that threads moved to /trash/ are outnumbered hard by threads born in /trash/, molded by /trash/)
/r9k/ 16 posts/min, 37 threads/hour
/bant/ 17 posts/min, 7 threads/hour
[s4s] 2 posts/min, 11 threads/hour

that totals 111 posts/min and 122 threads/hour, which puts it above any one board in post count and above anything except /pol/ in thread count

admittedly, if we're considering what a combined "offtopic" board would look like, we need to compare it to other "combined" theoretical boards, and /v vg/ behemoth of impossible size and would be unmanageable by dint of the >100 threads/hour of the /v/ half of a combined /vvg/ killing the generals of the /vg/ half, which would become degenerate real fucking quickly; and that's before considering all the other /v/ boards.

but it does lead to a fun question - what combined boards that share rough overlap would be the least usable? what'd suck the most to re-combine after spliting it off?
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>>9928
>above anything except /pol/ in thread count
/POL/ CAMPEÕES NÚMERO UNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>9928
>what'd suck the most to re-combine after spliting it off?
/mlp/ getting forced into a single general on /co/ would be funny for the five minutes before it becomes a massive shitstorm
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if you want my opinion, there are too many boards. we should get rid of a few
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>>9933
>/mlp/ getting forced into a single general on /co/ would be funny for the five minutes before it becomes a massive shitstorm
no it should be a locked general on /qa/ and no other posts on /qa/ allowed.
/qa/ would then be renamed /qa/ - Quarterhorse Anime
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>>9935
I don't think there's really much reason to get rid of boards that have already been made unless they have become problematic to keep moderated or they are otherwise inconveniencing the functioning of the rest of the site in some way. Slow and unpopular boards should by their nature be relatively easy to manage anyway so might as well let the few people who like them have their fun.
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>>9928
>what combined boards that share rough overlap would be the least usable?
Merge /a/, /co/, all the /v/s, /tg/, /mu/, /m/, /lit/, /pw/, /sp/, /tg/ and /tv/ into
>/ent/: Entertainment Mediums
and watch the world burn
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>>9939
>merging /a/ and /tv/ would be like when segregation ended in the south and i'm not even sure which one would be Ruby Bridges
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>>9935
i don't remember if this was my own post but frankly i agree wholeheartedly so yeah it probably was
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>>9933
/mlp/ has been in steady posting decline since the show ended. If I had to pick 1 current board that will be deleted next, it would be /mlp/.



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