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>>115572

did you read the bible ?

book of enoch?

apocryphes?

i believe the son of god is truly the way but the names and background knowledge has been hidden and twisted

some people belief for example when u have faith in jesus youre gonna be resuced 100%

but other parts of the bible speak of doing the will of the father

and faith without works isnt really lived faith or?

so there seem to be several dangerous doctrines which can also lead into eternal damnation because of ((ignorance)) and lazyness

The truth is exactly what you make of it.

All these "religions" are mythologies/archtypes/ways to describe existence.

They are all different takes on the same thing. Your outright dismissal of all of them deserves a fedora tip.

Nearly every one of them has the ultimate truth embedded into them. It is unspeakable.

All of those religions have a common perennial root that can be found by sifting through the layers of bullshit mortals have placed onto them. The truth can be found by adhering to any of those systems if you put a lot of effort into it, but it's best to believe what your ancestors believed in because their faith is in greater harmony with your spiritual essence.

>>115572

Neoplatonism is a joke to follow solely. You'd benefit highly from absorbing gnostic thought into your belief system.

>>115574

I like your creative or different way of thinking, but I personally think there is too much disinfo about the man Jesus

>>115578

>>115579

Obviously I can interpret truth into everything there is if I want to but I don’t care about what people made up I want truth or at least something that can’t be debunked

>>115581

Maybe you’re right I will look into it more definitely

>>115583

You illustrated my point for me. Reality is malleable around the system you choose or create (willingly or not).

"Find your truth" isn't a cliche for nothing. This is the essence of magick. Reality bends to your will with the right techniques. They are all embedded in these systems.

>>115586

No no no..

There exists truth which is what it is

There exist then people’s opinions which is what they feel

Both are not the same

I don’t think there is much valuable truth in everyone’s opinions only specific ones, like that of the real actual Jesus

>>115583

got discord?

>>115587

You're not understanding me, but that's ok. You will in short time.

Stop looking so hard. You'll know it when it hits you. It's inside of you.

Jesus is an archetype. He represents the truth you are seeking.

When I say reality is malleable, that is exactly what I mean. There is no "one truth". Truth is an experience. When you experience it, you too will fail to describe it to anyone else such that it describes their cosmology. Yet it will be your deepest and most profound truth.

>>115587

>I don’t think there is much valuable truth in everyone’s opinions only specific ones, like that of the real actual Jesus

But Jesus was a fringe practitioner as well, and faced constant persecution for his new age beliefs. Have you read any of the gnostic gospels? The Book of Thomas alone has quotes from Jesus that weren't put in the bible. You're implying you don't trust anybodies opinion but specific people who had transcended, yet are unwilling to develop your own belief system because you don't trust any sources other than the ones you already have faith in. Why are you here?

>>115590

Ye my name is Arbutus42

>>115592

Jesus is the Way, not an “archetype” for anything other than the way, I accept Buddhists from Asia that grew up there you know it’s cool follow your ancestors and maybe you WILL escape from suffering but for me the end of suffering is Jesus, not just believing though, because people who just believe in Jesus are believing in the nonscientific Drug-Fictions of Moses too and I reject that

>>115594

I am in the process of reading the Nag Hammadi works, but I don’t accept bollocks that is easily debunked OR which is not culturally related to my culture at all and yes I can find thoughts similar to that of Eastern religions in the orient and occident

That's nice, mundane.

>>115598

The problem with tapping into the qabbalah or trinity imo is that there's a medium in controlling the metaphysical, whereareas with a development of your own spiritual belief system gathered from tested and tried esoteric practices can need to more personal fullfillment and control of the world and it's perception.

>DO WHAT I SAY

>PRAY YOUR DEEPEST SECRETS TO ME

>SPREAD MY WORD

>ETERNAL HAPPINESS IN MY DOMAIN WILL BE YOURS

To teach their own I guess

>>115601

No, you got me wrong

I think the most plausible form of Christ is the one described by the ophites, the don’t have the Greek influence of the Valentinians and the Judaic influence of the Paulinian Christians

>>115605

Oops never mind the Ophites are totally wrong lol

>>115572

Have you found the devil yet?

>>115630

Prolly Doesn’t exist, dude was taken from Zoroastrianism

You have a long way to go, lad.

>>115636

I heard that way too often to take it seriously, you a big Joke unless you give me some real info

>>115640

Can't tell anything to someone who's already figured it out. You obviously know better than any of us, how could anyone match your radiant brilliance?

>>115641

No I just dropped Neoplatonism I’m still figuring out what’s the real deal but there isn’t one specific way, you’re a faggot and won’t teach me, so be it, what can a faggot have valuable for me

>>115572

Go back to "practicing" your "meme magic", uppity mundane.

>>115643

>"I'm a spastic retard, hold my hand"

Go read a book and pretend that you're not an inbred nigger for five minutes, you just might learn something ;^)

>>117306

thanks for the info man

>>117319

but the dude "fixed" the scriptures of judaism and christianity himself

thats retarded af

naassenes are not only older than his movement but seem more reasonable imo, if you know anything about them i didnt read yet let me know

>>117319

>>117338

Are there any Gnostic sects that have survived up to present day?

>>117342

Just the jewish ones.

>>117338

He did so recognizing the contradictions between the NT and OT though. It's no less controlling than the clerics who made the (((recognized))) canon.

>>117358

*no more controlling

The mind begs for rest

>>117354

Such as? I'm already cut.

>>115587

>There exists truth which is what it is

Maybe study epistemology? Or Hegel?

>>117369

Ecclesia Gnostica

http://gnosis.org/eghome.htm

>>115594

I just read a Sethian piece on the crucifixion that claims that Christ was laughing at all of them while they pinned up his Earthly vessel. It also later calls the Old Testsment god a ‘laughingstock.’ Thought provoking read..

>>115578

>it's just DUDE metaphors lmao

>implying odin wasnt a real person

>implying the events detailed in the bhagavad gita didnt actually happen

cope harder, jordan peterson

Have you read metaphysics?