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 No.41905

Hello wizards, mundane here.

Tell me what religion you guys think is the correct one. Also, tell me if you guys believe in souls and life after death. Also, I would like to know if you guys think a demiurgic figure exists. If so, tell me if you guys hate this material physical world or not.

Lastly, tell me your hobbies outside of this fringe and esoteric stuff (like swimming, fashion, etc)

 No.41911

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Hello.

>Tell me what religion you guys think is the correct one.

None of them. Each of them has fragments of "the universal Truth" but they're mostly disinformation, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy.) I think the 'perennial tradition', from which all religions and philosophies are born from, is somewhat panentheistic, non-dualist (though there exist positive-negative-dichotomy), gnostic and, of course, universal.

These might interest you;

http://montalk.net/gnosis/219/8-polar-mythology

http://montalk.net/notes/positive-and-negative

http://montalk.net/notes/on-the-historicity-of-jesus

>Also, tell me if you guys believe in souls and life after death.

I do believe in souls and afterlife. Though I am uncertain of the exact process that unfolds after our death, I believe we reincarnate to learn lessons which help us to 'evolve' in a spiritual way.

>Also, I would like to know if you guys think a demiurgic figure exists.

I am uncertain. The demiurgic figure seems probable but, for now, I cannot say. . .

>If so, tell me if you guys hate this material physical world or not.

I do not hate the physical existence. It is limited and limiting; spiritually constrictive; violent; but it is necessary. No thing created by the Creator exists that doesn't have a purpose. The physical existence exists for a purpose - to impress our souls with difficult experiences so that we may grow and unfold our infinite potential. In the end, all there is are lessons, the physical existence being a great lesson for us all to learn. Thus, I do not hate something which is necessary.

>Lastly, tell me your hobbies outside of this fringe and esoteric stuff (like swimming, fashion, etc)

I do music, cycling and other exercises, and 'creative writing'.


 No.41913

>May 2013 issue

This image can only get funnier.


 No.41914

>>41911

Wonderful answer. I have also been following Montalk for a while. Thanks for the wiki article too


 No.42026

>Tell me what religion you guys think is the correct one.

Hermeticism

KeyTexts: The Kybalion, The Arcane Teachings, The Arcane Formulas, Corpus Hermeticum


 No.42028

>>41911

I completely object the notion of lessons to be learned and the view of life as a class in which you are taught things.


 No.42029

>>42028

Please elaborate. I am aware that the literature you have mentioned objects this notion.


 No.42035

>>42029

I object to it upon the understanding of thought-packages being a thing in the astral. My objections are not based on the literature I've read, a lot of it which says life is about learning lessons, it's personal experience.

I reason quite simply that the fact an angelic light-being of some sort in the astral was able to transfer whole thoughts full of substantial quantities of information in a complete holographic form to my mind, instantly, and quickly invalidates the idea of being on Earth to learn anything.

I also object to it upon the fact that the astral is the source of all ideas, all thoughts; it is the plane of mentality. Everything we can imagine, every idea yet to unfold, everything that was (akashic records), is all contained in the astral.

Life in this density upon Earth if anything appears to be about forgetting and experiencing limitations. Not learning.

There is nothing to be learned here. Everything we need to grow spiritually originates from the astral.

Another reason I object to these notions of life a classroom is the very process of reincarnation. Reincarnation is a huge setback to any philosophy of learning and advancement. Instead of benefiting from the experiences and accumulated knowledge of past-lives it's all just obliterated. The only way to advance between lives it to create a part of yourself (tulku) that can outlive you when you die and find you again in your next incarnation to guide you, protect you, help you remember, etc. and eventually an immortal astral-body can be created.

Yet another reason I object to the idea of learning is the idea of the infinite constantly unfolding. There is no end, no finality, for all is based on an eternal and endless reality and the infinite never ends.

As for literature, I think it was Plato or Pythagoras or one of the older greek philosophers anyways, that taught that nothing is truly learned and that all things are remembered. This original teaching that I received long ago while still a child has influenced my thought into thinking that I am never learning anything only remembering things. Hmmmm this must be the idea of the Forms or the Ideals or whatever it was called right?


 No.42046

>>42035

>The only way to advance between lives it to create a part of yourself (tulku) that can outlive you when you die and find you again in your next incarnation to guide you, protect you, help you remember, etc. and eventually an immortal astral-body can be created.

Sorry, but I highly doubt that's the ONLY way. You also have to take into account that time doesn't exist. This life you have now is your only chance at attaining immortality, there is no "next life". Everything happens simultaneously. "Past lives" are but fragments of yourself.


 No.42047

>>42046

You're already immortal and eternal, schmuk.


 No.42048

>>42047

Yeah, that's the trickery, isn't it?


 No.42049

You have to be immortal before you can know how to become immortal.


 No.42054

>>42035

Not the one you answered to but here's my objection to your objection.

>…and quickly invalidates the idea of being on Earth to learn anything.

I don't believe we are really here to "learn".

I think it's more like experience and refine our taste for all things, so that we can create better things and better things and even better things until we achieve perfection, which is kind of hard because perfection is the process itself and not the end result.

Perfection, in my belief system, resides in the act of creating, and when you finish to create you have to create something else to find that perfection again. The Energy Source of the universe life and everything (some call it God) is actually doing just that, he is creating all times (The universe is still ever expanding) because this "being" is perfect.

The reason why we create is so that we can experience things and know ourself better, and when we experience, since we live in a contrasted world (the word imperfect is inadequate), we realize that we can do more and more and more, better and better. When we don't want to create anymore, we die, spiritually and phisically. Because, being students of the occult (I don't like that term but yeah…) we know that our thought is our will and our will is the reality we experience.

When we die, it's not because of unfortunate events, or luck, but because we want it to be (no matter if it's a conscious want or not, believing stuff consciously is not enough, you actually have to live by your beliefs, if you live it, you become it).

Since we created death, we enter the next stage of the creation, which is the astral (and other higher dimensions).In the astral you remember your past life and who you are, in the astral we learn and sum up our experience, we make a debriefing of our precedent lives. Why did we forgot them in the first place ?

Well think about it, you can't experience and feel the real value of pleasure if you do not know pain can you ?

We can also of course wander around and enter higher dimensions (akashic records, mental, atmic, buddhist dimension, and all the others we do not know about).

The point of it all when you are dead is, to experience being ONE with the creation and, not understanding or knowing, but EXPERIENCING this unity.

Since this experience is so pleasurable it can be compared to sex, at a moment or another you have to stop a little bit before you can go for it again.

So to take a brake in between the bliss of experimenting unity with all things we descend to lower dimensions, in our order of choice, eventually we get back to this physical life.


 No.42063

>>42046

Go read http://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1909lifebeyonddeath.pdf and http://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1908reincarnation.pdf

Also time exists as a product of consciousness. Just because it's relative does not mean it "does not exist". If anything the absolute is less "existent".


 No.42067

>>42063

It does and yet it doesn't. Currently reading Arcane Teachings.


 No.42087

>>41905

there's no "correct" religion, yes and yes, yes, hate is too harsh a word; i just see it as inefficient existence. Drawing, string instruments/music and also currently trying to learn French.


 No.42092

File: 1433114149490.pdf (44.89 KB, Franz Bardon - The Golden ….pdf)

This PDF is my official stance on religion.




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