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maths is fake.

What are the top resources to learn this sort of mathematics? How to begin and properly progress?

Actually, the universe is a balance between an abstract intangible source of energy and the translation of that energy into a medium we can understand and use. Math, music, art, dance, politics, etc. Its all just one way of expressing the energy which just is.

>tldr: youre full of shit you asswipe kike

Not true OP. All fields of knowledge converge into one transcendental knowledge called metaphysics. Math just represents the universe but gnosis allows us to actually understand it; and to know is to become / to embody. To embody is to place your awareness into the object or subject.

To be an actual wizard is to be a savant, a master of everything; and before you can become that you must be a master of your own mind and make it so efficient and powerful that you become capable of mastery in all fields.

To truly understand anything you must understand it's philosophical basis

>>83616

math isn't alive, it's just a way of describing patterns

all possible universes, everything in the physical realm (and pretty much all realms to different degrees) is based on patterns. without patterns there would be nothing of substance and everything would be complete and literal chaos, similar to tv static. nothing that could ever matter can actually exist without patterns

all possible entities that can ever existed need patterns to exist and so technically even a plant can be a mathematical entity. fucking electrons and etc are mathematical entities of the most basic kind. it's a meaningless phrase. machine elves of the psychedelic lore are just higher dimension beings and many of them probably have no idea of the mechanisms for this universe as they are different for the realm they come from and would require a different set of math to explain those patterns

linguistics is also based on math. look into computational linguistics if you like to get off on math so much

I do support the embracing of math but it's better to learn of it's philosophical basis before delving into it

>>83636

you're full of shit you asswipe kike

the universe is energy, trying to reach the balance of entropy

the other stuff is abstract ideas that has nothing to do with physicality, and more to do with philosophy and different kinds of math

>>83642

>Math just represents the universe

that is so incredibly wrong. physics describes the universe. nothing "represents" the universe

metaphysics is just a subcategory of philosophy

>>83644

that's true, in the redundant sense

so tldr, the nature of everything is actually philosophical, and the attempt at describing anything with a pattern is called math by definition

>>83636

>A bunch of incoherent nonsense that doesn't actually mean anything.

Tarded word-user confirmed.

>>83642

More incoherent nonsense. For word-users you guys sure do suck at basic communication. Where is the specificity, where is the explanation of what the fuck you are talking about? It's all just a word-haze, a linguistic gesturing towards an abstract fart.

>>83647

Well at least you can communicate better than the others.

>math isn't alive, it's just a way of describing patterns

I didn't mean that math is alive. However it can create consciousness, for example consider a perfect mathematical model of how a human brain operates. In a reality where every possible mathematical object exists, you're going to have a lot of these that are outside of a universe structure like ours.

>all possible entities that can ever existed need patterns to exist and so technically even a plant can be a mathematical entity. fucking electrons and etc are mathematical entities of the most basic kind. it's a meaningless phrase. machine elves of the psychedelic lore are just higher dimension beings and many of them probably have no idea of the mechanisms for this universe as they are different for the realm they come from and would require a different set of math to explain those patterns

Yes, everything in our universe is mathematical, it's just that it has a unified set of rules and starting conditions and pseudo-separates it from the rest of the ultimate ensemble. By mathematical entity I mean a self-aware structure that isn't a part of a universe like ours, but exists timelessly as a result of every possible mathematical structure existing.

Mathematical structure isn't meaningless: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_structure

>literally just a masc-energy thread discussing the importance of numbers

>how gematria kike magic started

>very limiting and structured system

>masc energy claims of dominance like always

>little man syndrome

>not using fem energy to wreck complete havoc with REAL magic instead of your kike bullshit

>>83653

Feminine "magick" is bullshit. That's why the Jews push it so hard in the New Age movement. They want you not accomplishing anything of merit. They want you destroying yourself. They want you acting like retards.

Mark Passio covers this in his talk on New Age bullshit.

>>83730

Mhe… is nice but something feels odd about him.

Dont get me wrong, he reminds me of /pol/, wants to find good and spread it, but fails every now and then by overdoing himself.

he has a spot-on the forced duality in brain and so on, but he lost me on his lack on gnostic knowledge, he is decent informed, far beyond the redpill and into the green one, but seems to me he lacks practice.

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>>83743

"bullshit" is shit bull tit mole hoopity floopity nick roll

>>83744

Hello. You have awoken me. What is it that you want?

>>83616

>>>83651

>every possible

monkeys with type-writers aren't bruteforce scripts, anon

>>83616

Mathematics has only so far managed to provide insight into the material, and "wizardry" extends beyond that.

Words and linguistics is the power beyond the material, and it is far less quantifiable by our collective

>>83730

Shill detected.

>>83730

Why are materialists such as yourself so insecure?

Oh that's right, because your obsession with numbers only pertains to the narrow slice of existence that is material reality.

You're stunted, you see other people perceiving something that your stunted mind cannot comprehend due to your autismal obsession with procedure and numbers and therefore you become frustrated, aware of your own shortcomings so you decide to further prove your stunted nature by behaving like a child on a forum such as this.

Just remember, if you believed everything you said, you'd have no reason to even be here. But you are, and no amount of compensation for that will change any of it.

You're a materialist, your world is tiny and your sense of it is limited and sclerotic.

>>85248

OP confirmed for being basic and projecting his handicaps upon others.

>>83616

What's your goal? Do you want to describe the world, or understand it?

Use math to describe.

Use ==== to understand.

All math can do to help you understand existence is by showing is deconstruction into a single 1 in a nD frame. It moves.

But yeah, stick with math if you want to describe. But I'd assume it's better to understand before you attempt to describe.

Math ain't shit, it's like trying to understand fucking reality through machine code rather than Python or C or SQL. You fucker I know math is the shit, everyone should know math is the shit, but what about literally programming, physics, chemistry, biology, and psychology? HUH?!

Equal parts of each is way fucking better than putting all your stats into fucking MATH. Yes stats for the math theme. Don't reduce life to that shit, it misses the bigger picture by searching through a hole in the wall. Your brain ain't big enough for that shit faggot, use the efficient methods of higher sciences.

Once you reach domination and conquest of math through psychology/politics/sociology, go for the fringe science of psychic whatnow. We use math for physics, physics for chemistry, chemistry for biology, and biology for psychology (if you want a layer of description for understanding), so use psychology for psychic shit.

>>96916

And that doesn't mean "explain away" but "describing the success/failure of something" or the mechanics of it. Like, anger can traumatize a space so that ghosts go there now type shit.