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Personally have no experience or encounters with them.

Here's a bearheart video on them though

>>116293

I've met a few. That vid is overall right about them, if you disregard his categorization with references to specific entities. Shadow people are freelancers.

What's interesting is that when people wake up in sleep paralysis they see them a lot more than under other circumstances.

>The golden rule seems to apply regardless: Do not provoke them.

I have heard that, regarding sleep paralysis, they fuck off if they can feel anger instead of fear inside of you.

Personally I used to ALWAYS see them when I ended up in sleep paralysis, but then at some point this just stopped completely, I have not seen one in many years.

In order to properly learn about them we'd need to find a reproduceable circumstance in which a human can ALWAYS see them. Seeing as how widespread this phenomenom is I'd say chances should be pretty good for there being such an experiment for us to discover.

>>116478

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/15824030/

I wrote about it in this thread among others. You can also search for posts by namefag "saya", she had problems with them for a while.

Shadow people are the inverse of DMT others. As the conscious mind wakes up in the middle of sleep paralysis, the serotonergic system registers others where none exist materially, it's the same mechanism by which higher-dimensional others are contacted, but directed the wrong way, into lower dimensions. Just as DMT others are the positive others met in dreams, shadow people are the negative others met in nightmares.

They're frightening in appearance and in nightmares, but rarely dangerous, although if someone doesn't know what they're doing, they can inflict real psychic damage via illusion. If someone is truly stupid and supercharges them, for example by using a tryptamine without any mental controls, they run the risk of the damage being deep and long-lasting, if that someone is unlucky enough to run across one. This can be a useful learning experience if you recover and reflect on it enough to integrate it into your psychic landscape, since it mirrors a near-death experience.

This happened to me a while ago and it was still the most magically terrifying thing I've ever experienced, akin to repeating the moment of morbid physical death in a loop, with the accompanying sense of a sort of anti-enlightenment, a meeting with something as dead, disconnected, and trapped as higher-order others are alive, connected, and free. This is extremely hard to integrate into one's life but it's the ultimate memento mori. Shadow people can be dispelled very easily, but to dismiss them and the lesson here is to miss something important, as unpleasant as it is to face.

>>116634

I mean getting in a position where you're unable to prevent the transfer of a tremendous amount of fear/pain/loosh from you to them. This, again, I know from personal experience, though at the time I was being profoundly stupid. You're right, it's just that you're thinking about it as a wizard or at least someone capable of feeding them an energy of your choosing, and I wasn't at the time. It would be a much different deal today.

I never saw the shadow person who fed off me form into anything, morbid or otherwise. I wouldn't call him an ally, and I haven't seen him since, but I suppose I consider what he did to be a gift, terrifying as it was.

>>116634

Don't trust cats, especially if they are made of shadow!

t. Dog-person

>>116684

La creatura….

You people are fucking crazy.

>>116259

>The golden rule seems to apply regardless: Do not provoke them.

I've had experiences with them, many actually. There was a period where I would see them constantly, only outside though because once I started noticing them I started saying "you are not welcome inside this house" every time I entered it, as a precaution. After a while I started to get an idea of what their game was. They are very much like negative thoughtforms. Parasitic in nature. When they come the first sign of their presence is a level of fear/paranoia that is unexplainable. I suspect that the majority of insane individuals are actually plagued by these things but dont realize it. Anyway, I started confronting them "What exactly do you want? I do not fear you. Look at me and you can see that it is true, so why are you here?" And they would just stand there and seemed like they were surprised and confused by my being able to see them and not fear them. And I would continue talking to them asking them questions "what is your purpose" and so on. All responses felt like pulses of energy rather than words, completely unintelligible.. So I started asking simple yes/no questions and came to find that I could understand yes/no responses. They didnt seem to know what/who they are. All they seemed to know is that they are attracted to certain negative energies and their existence is wholly the negative energy that they are attracted to. I started to pity them, all they know is fear.

Unless I completely misunderstood the encounters, of course.

>>117517

show them Unconditional Love! you can radiate it out while they're close. :D

>>117627

How does one actually manifest the feeling/experience of unconditional love? I feel it for certain people and entities (such as the Universe, I suppose) but… Conjuring it up within has been difficult.>>117627

>>120095

I think the easiest way is to find unconditional love. I have no problem projecting unconditional love because I am full of it and no human wants it. Find the beauty everywhere and capture it internally. Weird way of saying it but, find the recipe so you can just make it

>>120095

Forgive yourself and find love for yourself first. Then forgive and love your surroundings. Observe the feeling of love, feel its essence.

anyone ever see a light being and a shadow being at the same time? I once saw two playing chess. the black one had the dark pieces and the light one had the white pieces. the white one checkmated the dark one and the dark one slammed the pieces off the table like a lost game of monopoly and then the white one hugged the black one and the black one cried and then got happy and turned white and they flew away to heaven. was pretty sad, cute, and sweet.

>>120110

Why do people like making stuff up?

>>116684

Best post of the thread tbh.

My mother went through an intense Christian phase when I was a teen thanks to my step father (his father had been a Baptist Priest).

My aunt was pentecostal and mother gave that a shot for a while. Since the time I was very young, and we had attended their services where we were encouraged to "speak in tongues", I had felt the religious landscape was bullshit. Unfortunately, I didn't know all these mundanes were simply incorrectly performing oracular workings which their religion esoterically occults… From that time on I would doze off during church while trying to stay awake. Shadow beings crept among the pews. Once I mumbled then shouted out, "Oh no! He's Here!" during a quite moment having seen a giant demonic shadow looming above the congregation.

Then I began seriously playing around with magic, intuitively, as I had been attuned to some other presences as a smaller child.

I'll not cover those details, but this is the most interesting part: A few months later I was talking to mother about my brother having night terrors (waking up screaming and crying).

Mother said, "We're under spiritual attack." I just shrugged. She continued, "I've seen the shadowy things going down the hallway and entering your room, they're blacker than the darkest black. I'm worried about what you're doing in there."

I had just been summoning some friends to play with…

>>116460

sleep deprivation

I used to see the shadow people a lot after staying up for 48+ hours.

Sometimes they would convene around me and just watch me, other times they would "pester" me in that they would announce their presence and "phase" "teleport" "ghost" through me but stay still at the same time "phasing" through me sometimes at a rapid rate and multiple directions.

I definitely noticed more of them about a year or so ago and have not seen much of them since.

I believe that what constitutes a "shadow person" can actually be multiple different things. It is more or less a bleed though from other dimensions. I assume that most of them are trapped malignant souls who rejected ascension or lacked the will to do anything but self destruct. These lower soulforms have varying degrees of sentience, self-awareness, or even anthropomorphic qualities. They are like a spiritual grey slop, returning to the chaos, but phasing through our reality as they wither away.

Others are certainly demons, bleeding through or utilizing concealment via telepathy or other mental projection to distort their appearance. These are less common but much much more dangerous as it can be unknown to what degree one of these is capable of effecting both our plane as well as the astral and ones mind. They can be rather malevolent and perhaps there is some grand order amongst them, but from my experience they are all more or less solitary wanderers.

Extraterrestrials, I think are some of the less likely "shadow people" /extradimensionals more realistically, but normally such beings do not project a lower formed animus into our reality and rather mentally project or simply appear as whatever they desire.

I have always found that for the most part me and the shadow people got along, in mutual quiet observations. They also seemed to act whether intentionally or incidentally as a barometer or alarm for spiritual/dimensional/occult/entity alert system.

Like some areas are certainly a deterrent to them other attract them such that they congregate in large numbers. Some of the more voided places I journey have been host to large groups of them, grouping themselves in a perimeter from whatever object or place that is present. I presume that it is like a gravity well for them, it attracts them as well as people and other entities, but they cannot get too close, or are afraid too, as if they would be absorbed or consumed by it.

>>116623

> once I saw myself which slowly gained a hateful expression and twisted into a hideous demon right before my eyes. Now that was pretty fucking freaky right there.

I saw that shit in a dream. I was 14. I also heard them making noises and laugh. Yeah these things whatever they are made me pick up meditation and got me interested in occult stuff. Curiously I have yet to find people irl that have the same experience with these shadows.

Most of the time they don't even resemble 'people' more like a black blob that is lurking somewhere in the corner of your eye which sometimes manifests in front of you or you can sense some unexplained energy along with blackness.

>>120939

I also had low sleep. Most common way to encounter them seems to have terrible sleep + fears and anxieties. I never saw them have a clear physical form.

Watch out for shills on this topic and on others.

I don't think shadowfolk are all that bad.

One time I woke to great vibrations. Like a subwoofer under my bed. I saw one clear as day, shadowy tendrils and all. I didn't feel fear, but instead vague nostalgia. The being jumped into me and I had this amazing, liberating lucid dream.

Are y'all sure these things are bad?

O.k, here is the deal.

I am in a circle of Rosicrucians in the political center of Europe.

Many of my friends are druids, spiritualists, healers and shamans.

In 2016 one of my friends had a massive heart attack and he died. He was only 47 years old.

In 2017 two more died (one in a car-crash, one got a heart-attack but he is an elder. He died on 17 April 2017 at the age of 77). They were druids.

In 2018 my best friend, Ralph, who is a spiritualist committed suicide but he job had a new job and he really loved life. I don't understand what moved him as suicide was against his spirituality.

The circle of enlightened people around me is getting smaller and I started to feel very uncomfortable about losing so many people in a short period of time.

I'm seeing signs everywhere on the streets and people on the internet say it's the word of God but at night they appear as demons. I'm freaking out and I stopped with the spirituality thing now that Harold, who was a friend of Ralph and a medium, died of kidney failure.

I sincerely believe the gates of hell have been opened and anyone daring to engage with spirituality is a target of demonic entities. I'm sharing this story because I know demons exist for millions of years but something happened causing their numbers to overrun humanity by factors of thousands.

I'm hoping to get info from people who experience the same. I believe there is a massive energy vortex, opened in 2016, enabling direct connections between the demonic astral plane and the earth's noosphere, possibility attaching to our very own biosphere (the human body). This means the demons are literally surrounding us now without us making effort to travel the astral realm or invoking spirits using special skills and known techniques. No need for ouja, they are watching me type right now and they seem to agree with me sharing this message here.

It's not only a message from them, but I'm personally interested in learning if there are more cases like this happening in other parts of the world.

Yours truly,

Mark

Did I neglect to mention Harold's kidney failure was acute and a surprise. He left a wife and 3 beautiful children. I'm left heartbroken after all these events.

>>124829

I am not sure your hypothesis is correct. I've been here since the start of this body's lifespan.

I engage in all forms of spiritual curiousity and have only had a positive impact on my life. You sound bound by rules and by books. I can only say if more shadows cross over this place could feel incredibly welcoming for once. There are so many that fake their emotions and expressions. Sincerety feels like a rare trait. What baffles me is when people say they must protect this age and archsoul, something clearly hostile to it's inhabitants. What makes you think you are not the foreign archetype, and the world's soul has sent it's immune system after you?

>>124838

The world is an organism. It has its own soul and being. In a microcosmic example, can you tell me what has the most influence on human bodies? Microscopic bacteria living inside the gut. They even go so far as to release small amounts of chemical which is mistaken as hormone by the body. The larger organism is thusly changed by the quality of it's microbiota.

The world is no such different organism, except it is much more fertile. Planets are inherently female energy, or the abundance of capability to create. Passing by essence is the masculine energy. Humans are egg cells of the planet itself, infused with the passing by masculine direction of outside forces. In short, every human exists to be filled and fertilized by the seed of these passing masculine directors before growing to adulthood.

The Earth, like a sand tiger shark, simply has those fertilized fight in the womb. This is the unfortunate reality. Those that do not mature at an acceptable rate are simply reabsorbed and converted back into usable egg cells. A human body sheds billions of cells a day, even eats itself when it needs yet the consciousness inside the body doesn't even feel it. These two principles are interchangeable. The Orobouros is correct for living in flesh, no matter what we are consuming one another less it be ideals, flesh, or even spirit.

Those that make it past this trial stage can be released from the amnionic layer of Earth's noosphere to roam the cosmos and the tides of the universe. Air is Water. We are released like spawnlings of a mother octopus, in the multitudes of millions, to the Great Sea.

There is intense competition as even small levels of perceptual I'm balance change the noosphere "chemicals" released by humanity, changing the mind and Archsoul of the very planet itself. Those that develop into viral organisms are bound to the great organism until they are reabsorbed by the great organisms own immune system.

Love or callousness. There are no absolutes to this life cycle. This is what it means to be human. This is what it means to exist in a finite life stage. There are even those who by sheer desire wish to reordain themselves, to be born once again. A reset button? Or simply a desire to be something else perhaps? Life outside the womb of this great organism is not so educationally two-dimensional.