/fringe/ - Fringe

also, here's a nice song that could inspire you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Y_ztEW1NE

I am Christian, albeit a mix of Druze, Alawaite, Orthodoxy and neo-Marcionism, a blend of ideas. I am pro-Jesus, I am also pro-Mohammed. I'm just anti-Jew.

>>124690

what a pleasant argument. I like pagans but I'll wager you goys belittle us more than we do you. God Bless.

I can't hear the call.

>>124718

The problem lies with people being unable to understand what is actually being said. Is there not a creator? Coincidences do not real. If there is a creator then are you not of his creation, ergo his son? Throughout the bible there is a recurring message, that God is the truth. Truth being that which is true, and not false. If you pursue the truth then you pursue God.

>>124727

That is because you choose not to. There are no coincidences, ever. The message is all around you pay more attention next time you hear a sustained sound like a cicada or a bee buzzing by. Listen to the oscillations. Or, be mundane.

>>124729

I don't see it, hear it or feel it. No buzzing, no oscillations, nothing at all, no matter how hard I try. Whatever allows people to connect, I lost it.

>>124731

I dont think you can lose it. But, you can certainly be accidentally "tuned into the wrong radio station". It might sound cliche, and pretty gay, but try taking a mental step to the side and maintain awareness of your thoughts, urges and reactions to everyday occurrences. And, while you are doing this refamiliarize yourself with the "mortal sins"… And consider redefining them, not as "mortal sins" but "mundane sins". Being a gluttonous fatty that cant stop shovelling food into their mouths, jacking off constantly or otherwise engaging in meaningless sex, habitual drug/alcohol use, being overly prideful, being hateful… All of these things cause us to shut ourselves out from what is right in front of us.

People also misinterpret things like "dont be hateful" or "only focus on love" as meaning you have to be a cucked faggot. That is not the case. It is only natural to hate something that threatens that which you love. But, instead of falling into that hatred focus on that which you would rightfully defend from the thing/people that you would otherwise hate. Hate consumes but love strengthens.

For instance, I hate the kikes.. Fucking hate them for everything that they do. But, I love my kin far more than I could ever hate the kikes. So, instead of focusing on that hate, I focus on that which I love. Even on a mundane level when you are doing something in the interests of that which you love you will always be more successful than if you did that same task for sole purpose of your hatred.

And, most importantly, as this is one of the biggest seals that has been laid upon you by the illusion of this world, keep your mind engaged in active thought as often as possible. Ask yourself power questions. And if you cant think of any power questions just ask questions.. It could be anything "what is this" "how does that work". Even if you already know the answer ask it anyway maybe you will see it from a different light and find a new answer.

As far as power questions go here are two to start you off: "Who am I?" and "To what extent are coincidences real?"

Take care, anon.

>>124732

>try taking a mental step to the side and maintain awareness of your thoughts, urges and reactions to everyday occurrences.

It's gotten harder and harder to do that over the years, I'm losing the ability to focus my awareness.

>Being a gluttonous fatty that cant stop shovelling food into their mouths, jacking off constantly or otherwise engaging in meaningless sex, habitual drug/alcohol use, being overly prideful, being hateful…

I see myself becoming like that and I can't stop it.

>keep your mind engaged in active thought as often as possible. Ask yourself power questions. And if you cant think of any power questions just ask questions.. It could be anything "what is this" "how does that work". Even if you already know the answer ask it anyway maybe you will see it from a different light and find a new answer.

>As far as power questions go here are two to start you off: "Who am I?" and "To what extent are coincidences real?"

Great advice, spot on, when I was looking for solutions to my situation this is what I found too. The problem is that I don't have the willpower or something to actually use the advice.

I feel something is really wrong with my brain and I can't overcome it. I'm sure it's some kind of illness. I can't tell if it's the reason or the consequence of my condition. Magick and spirituality is all about one's mind and my mind isn't working. I'm unable to even ask God for help.

>>124734

>I can't do it

>I feel there is something wrong with my brain

I know that feeling. All of this shit is so easy to say, it's also so easy to imagine yourself doing it, but it's hard to put into practice. I have come to look at it like this: When you are an unaware zombie mundane normie thinking and behaving like a pleb doesn't have any immediately noticeable negative effects. Yea, a pleb is a pleb but they don't know any better. What negative effects they do experience they blame on the material world. Once you become more aware, however, you agree to play the game by a new, stricter set of rules whereby when you transgress you feel much more severe effects. And those effects are you falling from the tree you have climbed and hitting every branch on the way down. And then, once you finally stop falling you are left standing there feeling like shit, you realize, very strongly, that you have lost something that you once had.. A connection, an ability, a gift of grace. Maybe you even have some actual physical effects such as head pain, or general drowsiness. It's like you had the whole of your being operating as it should be and then the plug got yanked from the socket.

This has happened to me several times. I have found that when I attain higher I am still learning "the rules" so after a while I get tripped up and fall. Sometimes when I do I am able to get myself right back up. The most recent time it took me months and I have still not climbed to as high as I once was.

Don't be so hard on yourself. You got this. Think back to where you were and where you are now, what has changed and how did it go wrong. Then repent your thinking, there is a life line dangling in front of your face and I, or anyone, could say all the most well dressed words of encouragement, but in the end it is up to you and you alone to find that rope and climb your ass back up there. You got this brother.

>>124734

One last thing.

>I am unable to even ask God for help

It is not always easy to admit it but I have found this is always due to pride. Go for a walk outside at night, look at the sky, kick rocks along the road, even if it feels gay and corny force yourself to smile. Even if you are pissed as all fuck the physical act of forcing your lips to form a smile and holding it causes your brain chemistry to change. And while you are walking, with a corny fake ass smile on your face, verbally ask yourself questions, and verbally answer them. Have a real good conversation with yourself, from the heart. After a while of this you just may find that you were not talking to just yourself and it was not just you responding to yourself.

>>124737

Thanks.

>>124718

I love cancer. It killed my bitch ass ex-mother-in-law and John McCain in on fell swoop. So I can't knock it. It's effective.

>>124683

Christ is more than religion.

Christ versus MechaChrist is the age we currently living in.

Because misinterpreted words are a weapon far more deadly than nuclear warheads.

>>124893

>he doesn't know that man is the microcosm

i thought this nigga was a neoplatonist. did someone pull a quite from hitchens or dawkins or some other new atheist faggot and attribute it to julian?

>>124906

>quite

quote*

YHVH is the demiurge and you're a slave to groupthink, binded to it by your good intentions but ironically perpetuating the trap of physical suffering by giving the demiurge so much of your adoration. Read The Kybalion and stop being so dogmatic, you fucking pleb.

>>124909

>Still, there is power in the book. The words access something in the human mind

I'd change that to "Human Psyche" in retrospect.

Obligatory

>>124909

>It's likely the idea of the demiurge is just a leftover of some ancient "scientology" type religious machination.

The Demiurge comes from Gnosticism, which is pre-Abrahamic. Have you read the recommended reading list? Because if you haven't I'm going to stop replying to your posts.

>>124922

Have you read Dianetics?

Now imagine reading that 3000 years from now and taking that shit seriously because its old.

You shouldn't be reading my posts anyway. None of them are safe.

Islam is real Christianity btw

Praise baby jesus! The one true prophet! All the other prophets are just imitating!

There are two types of thought, monism and stupidity.

>>124922

The demiurge comes from Plato

>>125050

Social Shaming

>Most likely a pleb

Conform to the identity I want!

>If you are a /fringe/ wizard

Jewing via Dualism

>wrong/fake/bad vs true and essential

Cogitative Dissonance

>The truth is multifaceted, but only mine matters!

This is why I stopped going to church, and started meditating on the mysteries without trying for good goy points.

<Daily reminder of what group 'think' looks like

>>125053

Could you post a source on that cause I'm pretty sure Plato only argued for a "unmovable mover"

>>125627

You're conflating Plato with Aristotle or St. Thomas Aquinas. The demiurge comes from Platonism or neo-Platonism.

>>125637

Yes, but Plato never said that the Demiurge was a evil and ignorant entity, that was made up by the gnostics.

>>125651

From what I've gathered, Gnostics don't really say that either. It's only sometimes evil and ignorant when out of its proper place. The strict dualism is a meme.

>>125666

Sethians did.

>>125651

>demi

half

Demiurge is the half-urge.. The urge that causes one to become half of what they are capable of being.

Of all the stupid things I have heard, surely this is the stupidest.

I called christ but it always went to voice mail.

>>125703

Huh, I thought of it as the inverse of a demigod. Instead of a human being half-divine, it's a god being half-temporal.

>>125727

You got it backwards, buddy. Christ is always calling you, but it always goes to voicemail.

>>124683

>greek-orthodox icon

>catholic song

>From posts probably a mischling between a muslim man an a catholic woman.

You should at least put some effort to understand what you're preaching about. Git good faggot.

OP I have read the entire bible from start to finish and I have been going to every theology discussion group I can find and talking with many Christians.

Tell me what you mean by "accept Christ"?

>>124683

>It's clear that the void which everyone has in their souls is only replaceable by God's love.

Yes, but jesus isn't God. jesus is a false idol just like every other religion. it's all bullshit. religion is fake too. there is only God.

>>125050

notice how they always praise jesus but never explain why.

<jesus: let me in!

>person: why should I let you in?

<jesus: because I need to save you

>person: from what?

<jesus: FROM WHAT I'M GOING TO DO TO YOU IF YOU DON'T LET ME IN!

Whats the main difference between soul and spirit?

Among the holy spirit, the son and the father, the first one gets more praises by the prohphets. (they are mentioned to be filled with the holy spirit, not with the son or with the father)

One thing of interest is that (to my knowledge) the term the spirit of god is mentioned in the first book of genesis, but a term such as the the soul of god is not and does not exist in the rest of the book either.

There are things that seem to indicate this, that god has a soul, while there are not strong statements of this such as the one previously mentioned.

>>126540

They super saiyans.

>>124702

This attitude really diminishes my empathy when you get muslimd

>>126771

Sounds more like you are caught in a eternal struggle because you are too weak to actually overcome anything and win. Now all you could do was to accept the fact that you will never make it and embrace your pointless eternal struggle.

>>126773

The beauty of the samsara is I have eternity to figure it out on my own

Our custom is divinity.

>>126403

<jesus: let me in!

>person: why should I let you in?

<jesus: because I need to save you

>person: from what?

<jesus: FROM THE DEATH AND CORRUPTION WHICH YOUR ANCESTOR ADAM BROUGHT INTO THE WORLD AND WHICH YOU PERPETUATE THROUGH YOUR SINS

>>126790

If you truely believe this then I fear you are highly mistaken. Don't fall for those religious fairy-tale concepts. You should overcome and make it right now, in this lifetime. There might be no eternity, reincarnation or stuff like this for you.

Yes I accept Christ

>>124683

We're a bit more into the esoteric - "inside" - matters of religions. Christ explicitely says immigration and miscegenation is left-handed - "Satanic" - but most false believers don't care to actually read the books.

>>124683

soul does not exist

>>126772

Underrated post

Mainstream Christianity/Islam are both memes.

Gnosticism is the true faith, the essential bridge between Christianity, Islam, and all other faiths.

Unfortunately most Muslims will never believe the Thomas Gospel is really the Injil. and Christians will never believe that Muhammad was Jesus

>>126892

>Christ explicitely says immigration and miscegenation is left-handed - "Satanic"

citation needed

https://smsalchemy.wixsite.com/mysite

https://discord.gg/wDkbAKt

>>124701

>I am also pro-Mohammed

nice to know you're a retard, disregard what this guy says.

>>124893

>thinking you're not above a worm

Wow, atheism somehow got even more self-loathsome since I last saw through it.