/fringe/ - Fringe

Congrats, you used the occult to develop premature ejaculation.

You're just putting a lot of energy into your sexual deviations, and by doing so, accidentally summoning a succubus or some sort of low key spirit who feeds on sexual energy.

I think you're basically summoning a daemon without the use of a specific sigil or something of the sort. Just focusing and releasing the energy to attract said daemon. Like luring something with a bait.

>>131401

Will it eat my soul?

>>131402

I mean, is it dangerous?

>>131402

>>131403

Fuck if I know

Haven't read much about succubi at all, but I would say it depends on the nature of the daemon.

If you're not getting tired, exhausted and all those "symptoms" of some something leeching the shit out of you, then you shouldn't worry

If I were you, tho, I wouldn't keep this up for a couple of reasons;

1 - Said being can get stronger, because you're feeding it your sexual energy, and neither of us knows jack about said being's nature

2 - Busting a nut for the sake of busting a nut ain't the healthiest thing out there for spiritual and physical reasons

>>131403

You are throwing away your energy, same as if you masturbated normally. And on top of that you are probably creating a thoughtform that will seek to extract that energy from you. You might be creating a monster anon.

>>131399

>>131402

>>131403

You've just discovered how to cultivate sexual energy. The problem is, /fringe/ doesn't actually have many obvious or well-known methods to use it.

Your soul will be fine, if you get addicted to sex, then you have more problems to sort out other than just your sexual habits. Sexual addiction is a symptom, not a cause.

Besides, low-level loosh-suckers like to drink from sexual energy and/or misery because it's low-frequency and easy to cultivate. Shielding yourself or attaining a higher soul frequency can naturally protect yourself from these kinds of entities.

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>>131407

Why are you saying this if you've never actually dealt with a succubus? for that matter, your views on sex are quite maligned; it's perfectly human to want sexual release.

Controlling your habits is all good, but control must be tempered by restraining your restrictions, else you hurt yourself. That's why you have nofappers in the Renouncing Lust thread whining on how they relapsed again.

>>131432

We can assume the nature of a daemon based on other's experience.

And it also plays a huge role when choosing which daemon we ought to work with, when reading grimoires and other's experiences with said daemons online.

Learning from observation is what makes us a sapient life form.

>it's perfectly human to want sexual release

It is, but conveying your thoughts and energy just to get a nut going isn't the healthiest thing to do. The OP should use this energy as a mean of improving himself - physically and mentally/spiritually - and if he desire get something going with a girl.

And yeah, I'm not very fond of degeneracy, more so when it involves some sort of thought form/entity.

>>131403

Kind of. Masturbating to porn is a very low state. Random spirits attracted to this are going to be sad and drag you lower and down when you feel good. If you persist in this, and leave yourself exposed, all the developments of your mind and soul can be turned against you. Suddenly it's very developed and vivid negative impulses, milking you for all you're worth. Like lifting weights to build a stronger punch, then punching a brick wall. Experiencing this will probably make you quit porn at least. Though, these spirits are not what they seem and you can help them escape their hell, but it's difficult to be mindful and not fall into their nightmare in such a state.

Going the other way, inviting a soul to help you climb out of hell, you can't love two people this way, can you? So it complicates life here. I'm not sure what to do. This place has mattered so much to me, especially the demographics issue, but I'd burn the world down before I hurt them or corrupted them for such a scheme and retarded game.

Porn by itself is very damaging to your soul. It has a weeks long hangover if you use it. It's painful. You'll experience this if you start listening to God or Angels or whatever as they guide the development of your soul.

Try praying to God. It's free advice from higher beings, at least. Maybe it's God himself, I don't know. I just stumble blindly in pain, trying anything to escape. Prayer seems to allow them to insert ideas and impulses that will carry you out of your darkest times. That's when I remember to pray anyway.

>>131447

I don't know how you gathered that I consume porn from my post. I haven't mundane masturbated since four or five months ago. I have not consumed pornography either.

>>131448

Egh, Jesus.

>>131447

I think you are biased. You carry that guilt and sadness. Sure, porn is addicting, and that makes it bad, but masturbation (with or without porn) has always been a joyful experience for me and I even dare say introduced me to intricate visualization and helped me develop my astral skills long before I discovered magic.

It’s an energy drain and porn can become an addiction (almost sure to happen), and that’s reason enough to drop it, but guilt and low vibes, that’s not coming from outside you.

If you have proper skills of inner alchemy, the only reason to stop masturbation is to not waste energy (and that’s a big one). Guilt and shame is best left to Catholics (and it’s interesting to me that I only started hearing about this guilt complex once I was introduced to the internet and started interacting with the US, a highly puritanical culture).

I’m not going to argue about this because there’s already one thread about this and we don’t need another, but I wanted to put this perspective out there.

>>131462

Ignorance seems to shield the soul from the worst consequences of it. You will become more puritanical yourself as you cut out all wastes of energy. Especially when you start cutting out evil to maximize other people's energy. Even you could one day think two dudes pumping each other is disgusting.

>>131471

>I havent been brainwashed by judeochristian memes, its just you are a degenerate

Ok, if that helps you punish yourself at night

>>131471

>wastes of energy

Or you could just, you know, replace it. It's not like the cosmos have a shortage of the stuff.

Sex is for babies

>>131488

This requires no external belief, only honesty. Committing knowing evil, even a microscopic one, fucks up a soul. The two paths are very concrete from there. One hurts a lot, the other feels kind of nice but fucks up the soul further. This is not guilt or shame, but something else you can feel and observe inside.

I have an idea, that will not invite you to commit evil, and will allow you to experience this. If you still murder spiders, you can deliberately understand that spiders are only helpful creatures searching your home for things that would harm you. When you murder another, out of habit, then you'll see.

>>131505

You cannot, liar.

>>131584

Lots of bald claims that don't make sense there.

The fact is that uncontrolled empathy is a weakness, just like any other category of uncontrolled faculty. Feeling empathy for a being for no reason is a flaw, plain and simple. I killed a spider just today. Smashed its legs till it was paralyzed with shock then cut it in two. Its presence is an annoyance, just as any insect's presence is an annoyance. Honestly there is no reason to spare such inferiors if retribution is beyond them. If I have an insect problem I'll seal potential entrances and get some poison bait, maybe try a thoughtform. I'm not going to let packs of spiders make webs all over my house.

The same logic can be applied to any inferior, i.e. powerless being. If empathy is intruding here of its own accord, it is realistically just a neurosis. If you see the freeing the soul of illogical neuroses as 'fucking it up', then you must be someone who counts ignorance and impotence as a virtue. This isn't even in reference to altruism, even if your moral axiom is altruistic the constant uncontrolled empathetic impulse is naturally destructive to those designs. And by the way, the axiomatic nature of such concepts means that you can't prove that yours is 'better' just by citing your feelings about it.

>>131587

Liar, it is obvious your soul is deflating like a balloon. I gave the other guy my observations and an experiment to verify my observations. It doesn't get any more clear than that.

The ranting and raving you are experiencing is the other path I spoke of. Committing knowing evil like you do produces this exact state every time. You cannot any longer verify a simple experiment, but race to remain ignorant while bolstering your own lying mind. Evil is stupid.

>>131587

Evil is also disgusting. Don't forget you produce physical revulsion in people that know what you are and what you're saying and they consciously choose to show you mercy.

>>131587

In particular spiders (which are technically not insects btw) are useful to have around to keep mosquitoes in check without the need of spreading poison around your home. I only kill them if their presence becomes socially unacceptable or physically uncomfortable.

But then again, aren’t my reasons to kill them just as neurotic as that other guy’s empathy? The fact is, you can’t rid yourself of all of them and act like a Vulcan. That kind of mentality is masculine polarity unbalance, and just as unabided “empathy” is feminine polarity unbalance.

>>131612

The problem of an absolute concept of good and evil is that it requires an absolute concept of nature to enforce it. This mode of thinking is an aberration stemming from 19th century colonialist attempts at objectivizing and categorizing the relationship between non-British cultures and their environment that was different to theirs.

The fact is “evil” only exists as a category in the spiritual social superstructure of reality, not as a function of it. In other words, it’s not absolute and cannot be defined in absolute terms. That doesn’t mean it’s arbitrary either, but that you need more and more context in order to define it more and more exactly, like a fractal. It can only be approximated. I don’t know if I’m explaining myself. Morals turn out to be a the ethics of a wider universe, and can never be found to be absolute because trying to do so only reveals more subtleties, exceptions to the rule and nuances.

And I believe that’s one of the points of existence, to explore and define fractal structures. It’s part of the self-discovery of the universe.

I know this will be lost on you, because you are just not capable to see wide enough for you to understand what I’m saying, but it all came out of nowhere as I typed, so I’m posting this.

>>131612

In simpler terms. A lion eat you if its hungry and is inclined to see you as prey, or it might cuddle with you if he isn’t and has some other conditioned inclination.

What makes you think your morals are any different? They are an illusion of our ego

>>131587

And they are impossible to get rid of. In fact, trying to rid yourself of them is as unhealthy as trying to act as if they were real. Because in both cases you are mistakenly acknowledging their reality.

>wait, so what am I to do? Are good and evil real?

The question is flawed. That’s like asking how many digits there are in and infinitely long number.

You are to explore your conditioning. Because here is the thing: regardless of you consciously knowing it’s conditioning, you are still bound to it. You still consider certain things to be wrong and certain things to be right. The mistake is to believe those are absolute concepts, or to believe they can be intellectually defined and changed. The whole point is to find out your Will (in Thelemic terms), and what your Guardian Angel’s (or “God’s”) ideas about good and evil are. Then you might be able to describe or change them (at this point description and prescription become indistinguishable), but only when you actually Know them.

Sorry for unpacking this shit as I went along. I got a headache now.

>>131612

Your error is that you assume that your experience is universal. Your distress stems from your malignant altruism patterns, not any innate attribute of the actions themselves. You adopt these constricting and illogical thought patterns into yourself and convince yourself that they are important, even though the originator of these import-impulses are the patterns themselves. Like a fungus that's infected the brain of an ant.

I had no idea how blessed I am to be able to conceive of and carry out my own experiments.

I'll tell you guys the truth so that maybe you'll see through the evil clouding your minds. You're completely delusional in thinking I'm neurotic and pathologically empathetic. I've killed thousands of spiders and went out of my way to try to kill people. I was just blessed with integrity above all else which made it impossible to entertain similar delusions to yours when confronted by contradictory evidence.

I mercilessly killed spiders, then she asked me why. I observed that the worst of these tiny creatures was harmless and helpful. When I was bitten, it was always in self-defense and I could have prevented it. Still, I clung to the exact same shit you guys are spouting. I did not know of evil then, but the inconsistency with my thoughts and actions eventually made me stop. It was sort of a joke. I called it spider karma, and joked that maybe accumulating enough positive spider karma might outweigh some of the other things I'd done.

A few years later, I see that that was a confrontation with evil. Observing similar inconsistency of thought and action over time revealed the pattern to me. It is truly debilitating and worse than jerking off. You become spiritually blind. You lose your logic, sense of evil, sense of soul, and become dependent on the creations of others and endlessly try to steal their creation and derivatives as your own even as they go nowhere. Ironically, you should see this in your inability to test this simple hypothesis, you could even come up with your own experiments, but you lack the integrity.

>>131408

Noob, just direct the energy back into yourself and drink your own cum when you're done.

>>131447

Like much else of what's mentioned in this thread, It's all fear mongering bullshit. They're all just mad OP figured out how to use their imagination to have an orgasm. You have to have a very powerful imagination to be able to do that. "They" hate imagination for the same reasons they hate curiosity and innocence and learning. "They" are responsible for rigging the school system so that all the kids grow up learning to hate school, and thus hate learning, which is a trap to hardwire their brains to abandon learning and curiousity and basically be less intelligent for the rest of their lives.

TLDR: OP is fucking cool and broke the conditioning enough to be able to cum without needing a hand or some soul sucking woman, which are the real succubi of this world.

>>131471

You know, this is why nobody likes you and nobody likes jesus.

>>131584

>Fap

>lose a set amount of vitamins and minerals and nutrients and proteins in a certain combination

>eat literally the right type of foods that contain these things

>have what I lost and more

It works, but only if you don't abuse fapping 100X a day like a drug addict.

>BUT BUT EVEN A LITTLE IS AN ADDICTION!

Not everyone is as fucked up as you are. everyone has issues, but not everyone has all the same issues just as bad.

>>131587

It's one thing to quickly and painlessly kill the spoders and send them to heaven so they can be happy, but it's wrong to torture them. very bad of you.

>>131620

You're getting carried away assigning female and male to everything and thinking about which creepy crawly thing is okay to leave on the wall so it bites you later, and which to smash. Stop being so stupid and just kill it quickly and painlessly. Do you know how many spiders you make suffer by making them watch as you kill some but not all of them? The left over spiders are like "No why did you kill my friends I'm sad now" and wonder in spider paranoia for weeks if you will kill them next. That's so sad.

>>131710

Spiders can't feel empathy you retard. They're solitary predators.

>>131706

> use their imagination

Shit nigger use he. As if there were women in imageboards

>>131708

nofap is a way to assert the superior Will over the instinctual animal drives, the samsaric.

Same with many other things such as training the body, or going to war (though assertion of the Will is just one part of going to war).

I can do retrograde ejaculation with transcendental meditation masturbation. I piss out the giant loads afterwards.

>>131714

You mean pushing that part between balls and anus shut? It does make the orgasm more intense and you can go for longer.