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Easy way? Take a load of psychedelics.

Hard way? Defeat your atheism with conviction and discipline, and learn to love your gods.

Conviction and discipline? So do I just convince myself that there are gods and spirituality? That doesn't seem very effective or sincere…

Psycheledics are very tempting, but my girlfriend is pretty against drugs.

Read first a book by Robert Anton Wilson, I recommend Cosmic Trigger. I don't quite agree with a lot of things he upholds, but hopefully he'll help in questioning reality.

After that you may read Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot. The author presents a good deal of unexplained phenomena and offers a theory about them.

Then go for Stellar Man, by John Baines. He deals with the idea of mundane knowledge and its limitations, and also presents some nice occult teachings.

>>17156

I started off with RAW, cosmic trigger is good, at least read the intro which sums up his point of view of not believing anything but being open to new experiences you can find on his website

http://www.rawilson.com/trigger1.html

Here's the full text:

https://mega.co.nz/#!71h2hTQA!e5rBS3n86LgtNT84lcvoTT5v8uV5xxE4zBdGZeAjNEc

But I would suggest reading prometheus rising after that for the exercises and the 8 circuit model. It's more coherent as an esoteric text than cosmic trigger which is more autobiographical, both are still worth reading though.

Here's a short intro to the 8 circuit model.

http://deoxy.org/8circuit.htm

Some are quick to shout pseudoscience at the last four circuits but they work at the very least as a metaphor, prometheus rising goes into more detail.

https://mega.co.nz/#!aoJACZqD!UH3ZLWEBb8rdxT7c7ul9z2HIQ2j5rLhxMgza85drnf4

Also if you want to get into somethin practical try the science of breath http://www.arfalpha.com/ScienceOfBreath/ScienceOfBreath.pdf

I'd also suggest meta-magick the book of atem, its a step by step guide to developing the skills required to create and interact with entities.

https://mega.co.nz/#!vpZ3wZgL!8TyJrfvpywh6Lb6TDSAClEJ8VmvdkPHmN0VoFtij5rs

>>17160

forgot flag agin derp

I'd like to put forward the idea that having a strong religious faith is not necessary to engage in some sort of spiritual practice. Let's look at some of the things such practice usually involves.

>having a moral/ethical code and living by it
>self examination/criticism
>living a modest life, not seeking excess
>meditation
>prayer
>reading scripture

The first four can obviously be done by anyone regardless of faith. What about the last two? The purpose of prayer is to focus the mind on the meaning of the words and to impress that meaning on the unconscious mind. A religious person would use prayer to focus their mind on God, but you could easily substitute something like
>I am healthy, calm, and happy. x40
As for reading scripture, well why not read scripture? Or any other text that catches your eye. Follow your interests.

The only reason you need to engage in some or all of these practices is a belief that they will benefit you in some way. There's no need to worry about whether you have faith or not, that will come if and when it comes.

As you mentioned Hinduism and Vedic religion I'd like to suggest Yoga as a practice you might consider. There's a good Yoga thread in the catalog. >>15559

>>17205

>The purpose of prayer is to focus the mind on the meaning of the words and to impress that meaning on the unconscious mind

I don't think many christians would agree with that.

What you're describing after is affirmations rather than an attempt to contact the divine.

>>17228
Who says one doesn't accomplish the other?

>>17229

You could say prayer is affirmation but I'm not sure you could say affirmation is prayer, unless God is spying on your affirmations, in which case it could be at a push.

But I'm pretty sure prayer necessitates devotion and communication to God.

>>17150
You can still be skeptical but believe by justification. Connect the dot and it will all make sense.

>>17246
Dots*

God is not set in stone, make your own theories and do not doubt yourself.