Are we living in hell? 03/05/15 (Thu) 22:55:12 No. 25537
>having a dream >I'm 16 years old in high school again >i meet a girl and she becomes my loving GF >I'm feeling really happy and in peace >she dies some time after i met her >I get mad and commit suicide >in my dream i go to some kind of weird afterlife empty dark place >I'm told by a loud voice that I'm dead >I ask if I'm in hell >the voice says not yet, but I'll get to hell soon >loud alarm clock wakes me up >I'm 21 years old living alone with no job
03/06/15 (Fri) 00:14:59 No. 25571
Yes you're in hell. Welcome to hell. I've been in this shithole for ummmm 17 fucking years approximately.
03/06/15 (Fri) 11:40:46 No. 25680
>>25537 It may be hell but I dont think it has to be torment. I like the concept that earth is a place our higher self goes voluntarily to learn what it is to be a good person again after maybe falling to too much self indulgence in the astral plain.
This is essentially the message I got when I had psychosis and also had a dream where I was one of many of these skeletal angels hooked up to screens side by side each other.
There was this person (cant remember the details but definitely humanoid) who pressed some kind of alarm at what I assume was my screen and started announcing ecstaticly that "I" was beginning to break free.
didi 03/06/15 (Fri) 13:20:19 No. 25687
>>25537 for every beautiful thing there is an ugly thing, for evil there is good, for destruction there is creation - the beauty is that ALL creation comes from the VASTNESS OF ALL - meanwhile destruction is simply a process of
fragmenting .
This is heaven and hell, but it can be something else too, something better - for in this realm the I is the
beast and the
beauty .
03/06/15 (Fri) 19:30:50 No. 25747
Yes, we are literally in hell. I'm not even joking.
03/06/15 (Fri) 19:32:40 No. 25748
03/06/15 (Fri) 21:36:48 No. 25774
>>25687 Nope, this place is just hell. Everything that is here, the astral does better.
03/06/15 (Fri) 21:43:31 No. 25775
The reason we're here in actuality is to cultivate desire and inspire action. Beings that have lived out all their desires throw themselves into chaos and experience usually a lot of suffering but it creates new desire in them that inspires forward momentum through infinity. Contrary to the general assumption, no, this is not about being a good person. It's about being compelled into action when otherwise stasis would set in and nothing would happen.
03/07/15 (Sat) 03:05:10 No. 25847
>>25748 we literally aren't, tardo
03/07/15 (Sat) 03:09:27 No. 25848
This reality is a perfect hell.
03/07/15 (Sat) 03:10:43 No. 25849
>>25775 This. This restlessness points to a lack of true autonomy.
03/07/15 (Sat) 03:13:51 No. 25850
>>25848 >>25849 Thus, the world in which we live is in its whole nature through and through will, and at the same time through and through idea. This idea always presupposes a form, object and subject. If we take away this form and ask what then remains, the answer must be that this can be nothing but will, which, properly speaking, is the thing-in-itself.
Every human being discovers that he himself is this will, and that the world exists only for him and does so in relation to his consciousness. Thus each human being is himself in a double aspect the whole world, the microcosm. And that which he realizes as his own real being exhausts the being of the whole world, the macrocosm. So, like man, the world is through and through will, and through and through idea.
03/07/15 (Sat) 03:15:56 No. 25851
>>25848 >>25849 >>25850 The freest human being is not one who acts on reasons he has chosen for himself, but one who never has to choose. Rather than agonising over alternatives, he responds effortlessly to situations as they arise. He lives not as he chooses but as he must. Such a human being has the perfect freedom of a wild animal – or a machine.
03/07/15 (Sat) 09:01:28 No. 25877
>>25774 "You think living in physical plane is suffering?" asked the astral being.
"Yes," answered the magi, "life would be much better in astral planes."
The astral being sighed. "You think? Astral is hell! Everything that is there, the mental planes do better!"
03/07/15 (Sat) 14:53:23 No. 25910
>>25877 Are you basically saying that the astral planes is physical to its native inhabitants who abide on it? …or have you imagined some arbitrary difference between the astral and the mental planes, even though it's just two words for the exact same fucking thing?
03/07/15 (Sat) 15:00:32 No. 25914
>>25537 >Are we living in hell? nope
03/07/15 (Sat) 15:01:05 No. 25915
03/07/15 (Sat) 18:07:02 No. 25940
>>25910 I just find it amusing how everyone's so anxious getting on a higher plane of existence.
But I can't blame them, everything wants to evolve and ascend!
03/20/15 (Fri) 20:00:16 No. 28466
>>25848 It's only hell because you want it to be. The buddhists live their entire life trying to avoid desires.
If you're so afraid of desires, become buddhist.
Personally, I enjoy the bottomless pit of desires. It allows me to always have something that I can satisfy.
I'd rather suffer in my attempt to reach my desires than sit around without any and be bored.
03/20/15 (Fri) 20:33:13 No. 28479
maybe Hell is just another term for the place where all beings live in separation and fear and can't surrender to love
03/23/15 (Mon) 04:29:46 No. 28997
>>28466 It is actually impossible to avoid desire, it is futile, there are those without desire but they are flukes
Boredom is desire for action
03/23/15 (Mon) 05:04:22 No. 29002
>>28997 You may do what you will, but you may not will what you will. The way we go on living in spite of life and physicality points more toward our own lack of choice/will/autonomy.
We can never step outside our subjective perspective, and yet we've intuitive access to the external via our insatiable will. There is something ineffable here which is yet part of us.
03/23/15 (Mon) 05:15:16 No. 29003
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. The outside is in, there is nothing above and nothing below
03/23/15 (Mon) 05:25:15 No. 29004
Look at your body
03/23/15 (Mon) 22:12:10 No. 29102
We're in hell right now OP
04/01/15 (Wed) 07:41:48 No. 30579
>>25571 How edgy ::::^^^))))
04/28/15 (Tue) 04:05:39 No. 35318
You never would have guesses how well hidden Hell was.
04/29/15 (Wed) 10:33:55 No. 35610
You faggots can say what you will about this and that or the other thing, I am not going to start smoking again. Suck my dick.
07/28/15 (Tue) 21:09:28 No. 48178
>>25537
>Are we living in hell?
yep
SAGE! 07/29/15 (Wed) 01:11:05 No. 48189
I've always wondered about the TRUE god name, and the antagonist (satan) TRUE names
is EL "satan entity" or "god"? because hell would equal el and we would currently be in EL's realm (hell third density, + the underworld sheol)
angel ang-el, I know elohim means creators so EL would be the creator? but then, whos the legit creator of this realm, god or evil? is EL good and evil? don't mind me. just wonderin
10/07/15 (Wed) 03:23:18 No. 56090
>>25851
>>25850
very flawed ways of thinking that will only lead to any individual who thinks like this to be easily manipulated and unconsciously make a forced choice in any ultimatum. A B C
NO YOU CANT PICK D
STOP
STOOOOOOOOOP
10/07/15 (Wed) 03:31:39 No. 56091
>>48189
there is no devil. its just a label made up by people to try and categorize the things in life which they percieve to be "bad"
there is only God, and God does alot of things that we simply don't understand the reasoning behind.
it's tough for some people to accept the fact that God chooses for some babies to live and for some to die, so they invent a false idol, "devil" to distract themselves and say that it's impossible for God to do something "bad"
but God knows what's up about everything because God is and has made eternally everything. and even though this reality bubble we are temporarily exisiting in is in itself a sort of learning experience and simultanious punishment and hell, it is only a temporary bumpy ride. this is the matrix. the mistake people make is assuming this is real in the first place, and thinking "heaven" is some place to ascend to.
the truth is that this reality in it's whole, the entire universe is a simulation and false. heaven is "real reality" waking up from the bad dream and realizing everything is okay now and forever.
this isn't a free ticket to rob banks and do bad things everywhere. it's just a demystification of reality.
you should still try to make your best choices and try to be the best you can be, and be nice, so that you can learn how to in turn also be better.
it isn't a game, but you participate in it. then you die, or "become alive"
suicide is not a free ride out.
10/07/15 (Wed) 03:35:17 No. 56092
>>56091
and think about adam and eve.
the Lord had foreknowledge and may have had impact on Eve and Adam's decision to eat the forbidden fruit.
the Lord may have set them up to eat the forbidden fruit, just the same way Pharoah was told to release the slaves but then "hardened Pharoah's heart" so Pharoah couldn't let them go. or was the Pharoah supposed to go against his hardened heart and do the right thing anyway?
the fact that Eve did not know the difference between Good and Evil when she ate the forbidden fruit is very paradoxical, since She and Adam literally had no way of knowing that disobedience was a bad thing. They are technically being punished for doing evil when they specifically didn't know what evil was or that eating the forbidden fruit was wrong other than the fact that they were told not to eat it, but that goes back to the fact that they had no way of knowing that disobedience was a bad thing… we can all remember moments when we were very little and our parents told us to not do something and immediately after hearing what they said we went and did that exact thing and suffered some kind of consequence.
We knew we should have listened after the fact yet before we learned that we made a mistake something stupid about our way of thinking or lack thereof, a flaw within us, or some very deceptive hidden temptation that we didn't even realize was bad until it was too late, we went and made the bad choice. The question is why? To learn? Are we meant to learn here on earth? Does temptation exist because we are supposed to learn what it is and know what is good and bad and avoid what is bad so that we may be distinctly good? when wrong is done it feels bad, and when good is done it feels good, yet here on earth things can get complicated and the lines are often very blurred. I often make the same stupid mindless mistakes over and over again even though I know that they exist, and know to try and avoid them, but often then make even newer mistakes, like making the mistake of forgetting to not make another mistake. I hope that we (humanity) all do better and better. We have to try.
10/07/15 (Wed) 03:36:49 No. 56094
>>56091
and think about adam and eve…….
the Lord had foreknowledge and may have had impact on Eve and Adam's decision to eat the forbidden fruit.
the Lord may have set them up to eat the forbidden fruit, just the same way Pharoah was told to release the slaves but then "hardened Pharoah's heart" so Pharoah couldn't let them go. or was the Pharoah supposed to go against his hardened heart and do the right thing anyway?
the fact that Eve did not know the difference between Good and Evil when she ate the forbidden fruit is very paradoxical, since She and Adam literally had no way of knowing that disobedience was a bad thing. They are technically being punished for doing evil when they specifically didn't know what evil was or that eating the forbidden fruit was wrong other than the fact that they were told not to eat it, but that goes back to the fact that they had no way of knowing that disobedience was a bad thing… we can all remember moments when we were very little and our parents told us to not do something and immediately after hearing what they said we went and did that exact thing and suffered some kind of consequence.
We knew we should have listened after the fact yet before we learned that we made a mistake something stupid about our way of thinking or lack thereof, a flaw within us, or some very deceptive hidden temptation that we didn't even realize was bad until it was too late, we went and made the bad choice. The question is why? To learn? Are we meant to learn here on earth? Does temptation exist because we are supposed to learn what it is and know what is good and bad and avoid what is bad so that we may be distinctly good? when wrong is done it feels bad, and when good is done it feels good, yet here on earth things can get complicated and the lines are often very blurred. I often make the same stupid mindless mistakes over and over again even though I know that they exist, and know to try and avoid them, but often then make even newer mistakes, like making the mistake of forgetting to not make another mistake. I hope that we (humanity) all do better and better. We have to try.
10/07/15 (Wed) 03:37:34 No. 56095
>>56094
double post, can not delete. I apologize.
10/08/15 (Thu) 05:32:22 No. 56190
Yeah this is hell until Im getting unlimited free blowjobs and massages from a hot girl who listens to stoner rock drum and bass and jazz and I have enough money to sit here smoking weed eating chicken wings and playing video games for 50 years.
Sure id like to do things like fly, be a professional athlete, or take over the world, but unlimited beejs,massages,weed and wings will do.
10/08/15 (Thu) 09:57:16 No. 56206
Yes. Anyone who thinks the understand the causality behind how we got here most likely doesn't, myself included, as any source of information can very easily be false given how little is revealed to us.
The only way to determine whether or not this is hell would be to compare the present to an ideal, and very few people consider human existence to be ideal existence, or at least I don't know of any, and the ones who do are very surface-level type folk who can't look behind the facade or see the mass of organs and bone underneath the skin. Humans themselves are modeled after reality in this way, it's quite funny. No intrinsic understanding. Pressures and illogical, implanted desires. Nothing is as it appears.
10/09/15 (Fri) 05:21:37 No. 56302
11/29/15 (Sun) 22:46:02 No. 62454
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>>25747
why does it feel so good?
loving the love shared/received and the happiness that ensues
11/30/15 (Mon) 23:33:03 No. 62582
11/30/15 (Mon) 23:41:40 No. 62583
I am going to differ and say Nop
If this is a hell is the lazy ' s hell
What you focus is what you manifest
This land is middle land
If you focus on bad things bad things will happen
If you focus on good tinks good tings will happen
This reality is mental training reality
You could lift your toughs or let them sink you
Remember what the tinker tinks The prover, proves
12/28/15 (Mon) 22:33:53 No. 65615
>>56092
>>56091
Thought provoking.
12/29/15 (Tue) 01:12:09 No. 65634
>>56090
There are no choices to be made anon.
12/29/15 (Tue) 14:23:45 No. 65695
>>25537
Very simply, no.
I've *literally* been to hell before -
once you're there, it's nearly impossible to escape it.
You see, hell is not a place, it's a mental and spiritual state where you reincarnate over and over to a certain point when you were a child, live a horrible, degrading, miserable life and then die horribly and painfully only to lose your mind and all your memories and then repeat it again.
There's also pocket-hells that can bring you into that version of hell by "reminding," you that what I mentioned above will keep happening to you and there's literally nothing you can do to stop it, followed by complete lack of control in any aspect of your existence except awareness that that is happening to you.
Don't speculate about hell, my friend.
12/29/15 (Tue) 14:40:04 No. 65698
>>65695
>You see, hell is not a place, it's a mental and spiritual state
12/29/15 (Tue) 14:43:52 No. 65699
>>65698
What this anon said.
12/29/15 (Tue) 15:56:10 No. 65714
That you're able to freely indulge in the fetish of imagining you have no free will is absolute proof that reality we live in is ideal heaven.
If you lived in a world in which you could do anything except make it hell, it would be hell.
Some of you are enjoying the fantasy of being a slave of space lolis. And God saw this and knew it was good
12/31/15 (Thu) 09:04:06 No. 65945
>>28479
Perhaps. And perhaps hell can be manufactured into existence
12/31/15 (Thu) 09:44:36 No. 65947
>>25537
>>I'm 21 years old living alone with no job
Teach us your ways. I want to live alone with no job, how do I do this without money?
01/01/16 (Fri) 04:04:12 No. 66020
>>25537
>>I'm 21 years old living alone with no job
If you have the means to survive without job then it is not hell silly, it is heaven.
01/01/16 (Fri) 11:14:27 No. 66035
>>56091
>suicide is not a free ride out.
What happens if you do?
01/01/16 (Fri) 20:20:10 No. 66057
not even the dead can know peace
01/02/16 (Sat) 15:52:04 No. 66122
>>66035
The incarnation experience ends. If learnings were left unfulfilled, another incarnative experience must be undertaken.
Remember, you are a "spark" of the infinite. You are a soul; you have a body. The physical body is a sensory tool to experience a physical reality. A costly tool energetically, but not the end all of one's being.
01/02/16 (Sat) 17:36:15 No. 66132
tfw orgasm in a dream and wake up
are we in an orgasm??
01/02/16 (Sat) 21:54:24 No. 66160
>>66035
Not long ago I had to deal with a suicidal "spirit" who didn't want to leave the world. After he took his life he realized things went on, became terrified, and couldn't walk away towards his reincarnation, which seems to be a common thing among those who suicide. So, he became trapped in-between and feeding from a certain individual.
In his own words, his state was as if he was drowning, and unable to reach the surface and breathe. Too afraid to dissolve, too dead to become alive again.
01/05/16 (Tue) 12:51:55 No. 66487
>>25537
In short, yes. This can be VERY HARD to accept in the beginning. Many people are not capable of processing this.
It helps if you think of this as "school" instead of hell. At least it has been helping me get by.
There is much to learn, and there is much we can do to change…
[pic related] that is my cat in my basement. seem normal to you?
01/05/16 (Tue) 18:07:11 No. 66503
01/05/16 (Tue) 18:09:06 No. 66504
>>65714
Damn…
That reminds of of the Twilight Zone episode A Nice Place to Visit.