/fringe/ - Fringe

>>34265

some people need to experience flight.

like 2100 years ago that dude figured out planet shape AND he aprox'd the size JUST by using 2 pillars and calculating the shadow difference from the angles received by the sun.

Thoughts from an actual earther. Great interview

>>34290

This is exciting.

Life seems new again

>>34294

This is downright scary.

>>34265

There's a lot of good information on this around but I suggest you avoid the disinfo shill site www.theflatearthsociety.org

Eric Dubay is a race mixer.

>>34290

>Drink a drink smoke a smoke

Dropped

>>34304

Babylonian hedonism aside, the earth IS flat. That is just fact.

>>34307

I'm still shocked. Can't someone just astral project above Earth?

>>34311

Consider the case of the astral projector, believing himself to have arrive in his own home on the astral level, and seeing his thing, just as he remembers them in the place he remembers them being, endeavors to move an item from here to there as proof that he has been where he believes he has been and done what he believes he is about to do. The man moves a book from his office table to his bed. He feels with 5 senses and that sense which is extra sensory the response of his actions as he moves the book from his office table to his bed in that place he believes is the exact astral equivalent of his own home. Upon waking up the man looks about his bed and sees no book. Walking to his study he sees that the book remains on his office table. In like manner does the man who astral projects and perceives this thing or that thing and makes a logical leap rather than receiving information from that place of pure knowing deceives himself.

tl;dr I can astral project to an earth which is exactly like ours but round and I can astral project to an earth which is exactly like outs but flat.

>>34313

I've thought about that, but why not just stay on "our" Earth? How difficult can it be?

>>34315

You're asking the wrong questions.

>>34316

So you're telling me that one can't check if this is true by the means of magic, etc?

>>34319

I am saying you should not be seeking outward after truth but, rather, seeking inward that you might modify yourself that you will reside in truth always and be not deceived forever and ever.

>>34290

This guy makes some pretty good points. Makes you think. It brings new thought to planes and spirits.

>>34296

don't be so damn weak friend

>>34304

First of all the guy who says that is just the youtube channel owner, not the flat earther explaining his VERY solid argument.

Second of all please leave this place you poor little demiurge slave

Flat is dependent on perspective.

A more interesting question, IF the earth is flat… What is on the bottom half?

>>34343

I'd say that question would lead to something equally interesting. You haven't said something revolutionary. That's just, like, the next direct step of questioning about this thing in this thread.

>>34290

Can we get some more pics, infographics and visual proof/info about this theory?

The thing is that my friend can't learn well from simply listening so i'm going to look for decent info available on the subject

For now i'm not convinced, i merely put this theory i couldnt have considered before on the mental folder of things that might actually be true, and its a whole new level from like the small grains fake landing and 9/11 would be compared to this

It would have to prove phyisics wrong, it would be a proof that "god" (most probably the demiurge and its matrix) exists and it would render all the big scientific organizations useless and im not even starting with the planets, stars and everything beyond.

Perhaps those things might be easy for people who've been on the fringe subjects for a while and first-hand experienced the paranormal but for the ones who are merely starting, this is such a radical theory it needs all the proof it can get (and im not talking about mundanes plugged to whatever the tv gives but people like my friend who believes in many things that would be considered illogical by some and heretic by others but having something thats the epithome of the physical and your home being so extremely different its, well, one big step)

>>34351

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFjG4jpUhQI

>>34351

http://www.waykiwayki.com/2014/11/earth-hoax-part-1-of-2-dont-spin-out.html

http://www.wildheretic.com/heliocentric-theory-is-wrong-pt1/

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/search/label/Flat%20Earth

http://wellofhighstrangeness.blogspot.com.es/2015/03/the-broad-plane-of-earth.html

ifers.boards.net - forum

>>34333

>Justifies hedonism as something to not get away from really fast

>Accepts and uses le demiurge meme instead of searching for the one truth by himself

Eventually I will leave, of course, belonging to any kind of group is stagnating, and it puts a border in your mind

>>34379

> too weak to maintain clarity when some guy on youtube says something mundane.

I can only imagine how quickly you degenerate around people.

>inb4 "I dont waste my energy hanging around mundanes"

Yes, because you are too weak to block them out

You wont survive

Hey, this is making me feel depressed. :(

>>34401

Click this [–] at the top. It will make it go away :)

>>34401

Don't worry, we'll put them all down soon I promise

>>34406

S-Senpai… (They got killed in the next scene in which they appeared)

>>34307

you do believe everything you read on the internet, eh?

>>34428

You don't do the exact opposite, do you? :(

>>34428

From one Smileberg cultist to another, the phrase you just spewed is absolutely fucking stupid, as it's quite impossible to "believe everything you read on the internet" as one surely comes across countless contradictions reading stuff online. Every man without exception is selective in what he believes.

>inb4 some Chaotee or Taoist tries to prove me wrongishly right

the earth is flat

I read somewhere that apparently some penguins in Antarctica will just be like fuck it and walk towards the center of antarctica to their death

>>34290

Same interview but with added visuals

>>34786

If the Earth is flat and the center of the universe, how are aliens related to all of this?

>>34835

they're from 4d, not 3d

Interesting thing I noticed. I was aware of this site:

http://www.endalldisease.com because it promoted Ray Peat's views on nutrition (you will be aware of him if you have visited the nutrition thread). Then, on a fluke I visited the site today and saw that it was now full of flat earth articles? And pro-Hitler articles? Also if you read the comments of the last flat earth video posted in this thread the interviewer mentions he is pro-Hitler.

Liking Hitler and believing the earth is flat used to be the two most fringe beliefs you could hold and now it seems like those beliefs are spreading? Although apparently the Nazis actually believed we live on the concave interior of a hollow world, with our sky is in the center.

>>34913

cool site

>>34913

>Although apparently the Nazis actually believed we live on the concave interior of a hollow world, with our sky is in the center.

Rubbish! That's the Hollow Earth Theory, something a few people theorized, others believed, like Miguel Serrano. This theory was spread with the New Swabia conspiracy and the accounts of Admiral Byrd. No actual "nazi" believed in that or even knew of such a thing.

The common propaganda belief however was Hoerbiger's Glacial Cosmogony, as the "Germanic antithesis" to "Jewish science". Ironically, in the Flat Earth Theory we are surrounded by ice.

Here is more info on this topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocQYp_z5ydw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei3arPCGe6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLv2mAsYiC4

I don't like this whole "the bible says" in all these videos.

>>35012

*tips fedora

>>35013

oh shut up

>>35013

in all fairness the bible we know today was heavily manipulated and convoluted by romans

>>35015

exactly, it's not a good source

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFjG4jpUhQI

Watch this and you won't have any doubt anymore.

Fucking absurd, they lie about THE FUCKING SHAPE OF THE EARTH.

>>34981

Well there are two hollow earth theories. The more conventional theory is that we are on the outside of the hollow earth and there are openings on the north and south pole, they claim that there is a second interior sun in the center of the earth, etc. The much weirder one which the Nazis allegedly believed is that we are currently walking around on the concave interior of the hollow earth, that our sky, sun, moon and stars are all contained within this hollow earth. i.e.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_earth#Concave_hollow_Earths

>Several twentieth-century German writers, including Peter Bender, Johannes Lang, Karl Neupert, and Fritz Braun, published works advocating the hollow Earth hypothesis, or Hohlweltlehre. It has even been reported, although apparently without historical documentation, that Adolf Hitler was influenced by concave hollow-Earth ideas and sent an expedition in an unsuccessful attempt to spy on the British fleet by pointing infrared cameras up at the sky.

I have no proof that the Nazis actually believed this, it could just be propaganda to make them look crazy. But there are some people who still promote this theory today, i.e.

http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory/

http://www.missteribabylonestar.com

>>35022

More about the Nazis supposed belief in this here, under the heading 'The Phantom Universe':

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/invisible_eagle/invisible_eagle07.htm

>>35015

True. In it not is the mentions of the sex jesus has with women (mary magdalene and her sister) and boys/men (the bot in Jericho, the boy disciple he loved who stayed for his crucifixion).

And also we have the whole "Kill witches!" because a king was scared of them when it really was "Kill poisoners! Don't coerce! etc."

Erased was the sexual rites intrinsic to the enlightenment path christ brought to revelation those not-knowing.

>>35015

>in all fairness the bible we know today was heavily manipulated and convoluted by romans

And the not-romans and the jews and practically ever secondary vehicle that laids its senses upon it without the intention of salvation in their heart.

>>35029

i have the funds, lets all just meet up north in canada and go check it out, use magick to summon funds and resources like i and many others did, if we find treasure and trinkets of value and occult significance we have gained loot from an adventure, if we go at it like 10-30 of us and all pool we could hunt down artifacts and treasures using magick divination and other means.

>>35051

We should go to the south pole instead, if the earth is round and hollow we'll find the opening, and if it's flat we'll find out what lies beyond the edge of the ice wall.

>>35055

Maybe there is no south pole.

>>35056

Yes, in that case what we would actually be visiting would be the ice wall.

>>35058

Won't you be shot on sight?

>>35029

Well the concave earth theory definitely existed in Germany at the time. This link documents that:

>>35026

But yeah the more conventional hollow earth theory has been associated with the Nazis too. You might find Norma Cox's books interesting, totally bizarre stuff:

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/cox.htm

>>35059

Only if we don't shoot them with magic missiles first.

>>35028

>And also we have the whole "Kill witches!" because a king was scared of them when it really was "Kill poisoners! Don't coerce! etc."

Have any links on that?

Nowadays, there is literally NO reason to think the earth is flat. Anyone that seriously believes the earth is flat is ignorant and deluded to a ridiculous level.

>>35064

Truthfully, its something I read on /fringe/ that seemed to jibe very well with my intuition and knowledge of the humans and that context in space-time so I've accepted it and repeat it thus. I believe if you seek a source you will find it to state just as I have said it.

>>35065

>reason

Plenty of reasons in this thread. You've not looked and so you've not found.

>>35065

You haven't watched the videos.

Regardless of how the Earth is shaped, gravity is a mystery, NASA is obviously lying and fooling everyone, entering the south pole is not allowed and no planes fly above the south pole. Just let that seep in: there no actual pictures or videos of Earth and you dare call Flat Earthers ignorant and deluded? It may be not about the Earth being flat that's being covered up, but you're a fool to believe all these controversies don't stimulate the thought.

>>35118

they're faking the rover like they're faking everything else

billions of dollars go to nasa

space travel is bullshit

"aliens" are demons/angels

i remember crowley channeled a grey and he said the same thing, they are called demons, bu they will be called something else in the future

>>35146

How though? I'd like one plausible theory to go on.

Is there anyone here with actual science training who's going for any of this?

I know I just don't know enough to know. I'm so dumb. I know just how the economic system fools people, and many historical lies. But when it comes to this I just have no clue.

>>35016

>>35015

>>35028

the god and heaven and jesus shit is fake but it is still good to listen to and consider quotations bc the bibles coded to fuck and full of prophecy and shite

>>35153

hey man. you're not dumb, you just don't know. do a lot of research and only trust what you know about the world. consider aynythig keep an open mind, but be skeptical of everything.

>>35153

this -> >>35158 EXCEPT don't be skeptical. Skepticism is about avoiding truth which can harm sense of self. Be cautious. Not extended yourself to far into anything without bringing your whole self. Make sure the ground is solid before thinking of your next step. Be aware.

Have a playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLu3sQH2ChAELrMjCYUwcXbzmEFpDrwuz3

Some anon posted the last video on the playlist "Mars Hoax" here, but it got deleted for whatever reason.

It is comedy gold, have fun.

Also:

https://vimeo.com/121340635

Has everyone lost interest already?

Anyway, I am gradually updating the playlist at >>35252

I feel that this embedded video and its part 2 is especially important.

>>35157

Silence jew shill "This book is worthless but if YOU find worth in it…"

You will find your providence.

the earth ain't flat y'all niggas stupit

>>35725

but in all seriousness,

>>35029

is correct.

>>35802

well the sage was meant politely, but it won't come across that way in text

>>35667

nah, i just don't believe in the heliocentric model anymore

other than that, the earth is flat, it doesn't make any difference

>>35802

Most of your questions will be answered if you watch the videos I proposed on the playlist.

If you find any other good videos post them here and I'll add them.

>>35808

Well, ultimately, on an individual level, it might not matter much to a wizard, but there is most likely more land being hidden beyond the ice. I'd argue that anyone who says there's an edge is just spreading misinformation.

We're being contained here, saying there's an edge will play into the hands of whoever is orchestrating this. They don't care if you believe in the heliocentric model or not as long as you think it's finite.

I admit that creating an idea of a planet for this purpose is genius.

Who knows how many other "planets" they already have under their belt.

>>35810

I like you. Keep talking.

>>35810

yeah, i was thinking about this too

also, for what we know, the earth could be just a side of a great geometrical figure

each side with his own sun and moon

also, what about astrology? does this paradigm kill astrology?

>>35802

“Our eyes and ears tell us the Earth is flat and motionless, everything in the sky revolves around us but when we cease to believe our own eyes and experience we have to we have to prostrate ourselves at the feet of the of the very pseudo scientists who are blinding us treat them as experts. Astronomical priests who have special knowledge only they can access like the Hubble telescope.

So by brainwashing us of something so gigantic and fundamental it actually makes every other kind of lesser indoctrination a piece a cake, earth being the flat earth center of the universe of which everything else and the heavens revolve, gives special importance and significance not only to earth but to us humans, the most intelligent of the designers design.

By turning earth into a spinning, thrown around the Sun, shot into infinite space from a God-less big bang, they turned humanity into a random meaningless, purposeless accident of a blind dumb universe.

So it’s like trauma based mind control beating the divinity out of us with their mental manipulations.

Now people are always asking us “why do they do this?”, Well other than the obvious profit margin motive, NASA being the biggest black hole, big budget in existence, sucking in more than $30 Billion in tax payer dollars for the fake Moon landing alone, and nowadays hundreds of billions of dollars, not just NASA but RASA, and all the other fake space organizations around the world giving CGI Images costing hundreds of billions of dollars.

So this modern atheistic, Big Bang, heliocentric globe earth, chance evolution, paradigm spiritually controls humanity by removing God or any sort of intelligent design from the mind and replaces purposeful divine creation with haphazard random cosmic coincidence.

And so by removing Earth from the motionless center of the universe these Masons have moved us physically and metaphysically from a place of supreme importance to one of complete nihilistic indifference.

If the Earth is the center of the Universe then the ideas of God creation and a purpose for human existence are resplendent, but if the Earth is just one of billions of planets revolving around billions of stars and billions of galaxies then the ideas of God creations and a specific purpose of for Earth and human existence become highly implausible.

By surreptitiously indoctrinating us into their scientific materialist sun worship, not only do we lose faith beyond the material we gain absolute faith in materiality, superficiality, social status, selfishness, hedonism and consumerism.

If there is no God and everyone is just an accident then all that matters is me, me, me. So they’ve turned Madonna, the Mother of God into the Material Girl living in a material world.

Their rich powerful corporations and slick sun cult logos sell us idol to worship to slowly taking over the world while we tacitly take over the world while we believe their science, vote for their politicians, buy their products, listen to their music, watching their movies all sacrificing our souls to the altar of materialism.

It’s a big deception!” - Eric Dubay

>>35815

>does this paradigm kill astrology?

I don't know enough about astrology to tell you exactly, but we don't know what the stars actually are and represent- so it's not necessarily dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMvRBiq6WA

>>34290

I love IRL Blane County Community Hour.

After going through a video and a half, the most compelling argument for me, is the mass conditioning out for our inner divinity and making us believe we are randomly assorted start dust.

That answers my question of the deception's intent. And even covers why the deception would be so well choreographed.

The earth globe was a part of my belief system that was taken for granted, and the manner in which this new information is presented gives me good reason to remain skeptical. Thanks to all for making my world a little more magical. I'm still going to check out some "debunking' types of videos and sites, but the question will remain.

>>35932

don't forget about limiting your perception of the world

what's over the antarctic ice?

BIG FUCKING MISTERY

So all the astronauts are in on it? We've never been to space and we're not a globe?

>>35953

Watch the beginning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msY3xc8pVLE

Also:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/atlantean_conspiracy/atlantean_conspiracy47.htm

Take nothing for granted.

Are all aliens now liars?

And what about the German ufo pilots?

I used to believe in both, now even these beliefs are deeply shaken.

>>35961

>Are all aliens now liars

Maybe there's a certain universal code where they can't reveal certain truths to us.

Or perhaps if humans are truly the most powerful of all beings then by us believing it to be a globe all other entities are also forced to believe that.

OR maybe its like how a teacher will always try to nudge the student in the right direction but won't actually reveal the answer.

Regardless you should never fully trust any entity other than yourself. Take everything with a grain of salt as they say…

The Earth is not flat and is flat, it is a sphere and it is not a sphere; it is formless and yet formed. The exact shape it is represented in your mind does not matter it is maya.

>>36028

>ctrl + f

>"illusion"

>Highlight All

>0 instances of that word in my post

Buddhists don't agree on anything, different lineages of buddhism teach different things, it's a clusterfuck of contrary metaphysics just like how there's many different types of Christians infighting.

One interpretation of maya isn't that it's an illusion but that All is Mind.

>>36053

That sheds light on things, thank you.

I had only seen Maya used as an equivalent to the word "illusion" before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzfXRAqD2Pg

You know that you don't need any permission to explore the Antarctic, right?

The Earth isn't fucking flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWmX0R52Uzc

>>36377

You're free to explore it if you are ever officially accepted into the Antarctic Treaty System.

http://www.noonsite.com/Countries/Antarctica?rc=Formalities

>All expeditions to Antarctica south of 60°S must obtain permission from the national Antarctic operator or the relevant government department (See Documents section below). Until recently yachts arriving without permission were tolerated, but this is no longer the case.

>There are some 50 Protected Areas in Antarctica, so designated because of the need to restrict human disturbance. They can only be visited with a permit issued under the authority of an Antarctic Treaty participating government. Applications should be made to one of the Antarctic national committees or institutes. The list of areas is subject to change and an up-to-date list should be consulted prior to one's visit.

>There are also unofficial restricted areas near the scientific bases and on the subantarctic islands; information on these should be requested from the bases. http://cep.ats.aq/cep/apa/index.html

>Entry into protected areas requires separate applications for permits and these would only be issued if there was an overriding benefit to scientific research.

As per the Antarctic Treaty:

http://www.nsf.gov/geo/plr/antarct/anttrty.jsp

Article I

1. Antarctica shall be used for peaceful purposes only. There shall be prohibited, inter alia, any measures of a military nature, such as the establishment of military bases and fortifications, the carrying out of military maneuvers, as well as the testing of any type of weapons.

2. The present Treaty shall not prevent the use of military personnel or equipment for scientific research or for any other peaceful purposes.

Article II

Freedom of scientific investigation in Antarctica and cooperation toward that end, as applied during the International Geophysical Year, shall continue, subject to the provisions of the present Treaty.

Article VI

The provisions of the present Treaty shall apply to the area south of 60o South latitude, including all ice shelves, but nothing in the present Treaty shall prejudice or in any way affect the rights, or the exercise of the rights, of any State under international law with regard to the high seas within that area.

Article VII

1. In order to promote the objectives and ensure the observation of the provisions of the present Treaty, each Contracting Party whose representatives are entitled to participate in the meetings referred to in Article IX of the Treaty shall have the right to designate observers to carry out any inspection provided for by the present Article. Observers shall be nationals of the Contracting Parties which designate them. The names of the observers shall be communicated to every other Contracting Party having the right to designate observers, and like notice shall be given of the termination of their appointment.

2. Each observer designated in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 1 of this Article shall have complete freedom of access at any time to any or all areas of Antarctica.

3. All areas of Antarctica, including all stations, installations and equipment within those areas, and all ships and aircraft at points of discharging or embarking cargoes or personnel in Antarctica, shall be open at all times to inspection by any observers designated in accordance with paragraph 1 of this Article.

4. Aerial observation may be carried out at any time over any or all areas of Antarctica by any of the Contracting Parties having the right to designate observers.

5. Each Contracting Party shall, at the time when the present Treaty enters into force for it, inform the other Contracting Parties, and thereafter shall give them notice in advance, of

(a) all expeditions to and within Antarctica, on the part of its ships of nationals, and all expeditions to Antarctica organized in or proceeding from its territory;

(b) all stations in Antarctica occupied by its nationals; and

(c) any military personnel or equipment intended to be introduced by it into Antarctica subject to the conditions prescribed in paragraph 2 of Article I of the present Treaty.

All tourism is to follow specific guidelines:

http://www.ats.aq/e/ats_other_tourism.htm

The author of the video you presented ignores arguably the most important Flat Earth channel, TheNASAchannel.

He does say some truthful things, there are a lot of disinfo agents within the movement- which is why you must be careful when receiving information, and must not take for granted that which you cannot verify on your own. Take what makes sense, and discard what does not.

>>36385

you can't really believe in anything if you don't experience/see it by yourself

grab beliefs when they benefit you, then discard them

'Esoteric Wizardry'=Esoteric Peasantry.

Welcome to neo-feudalism, bought to you by Prussian-corporate education.

>>36399

what?

>>36410

better to live a happy lie than to realize you're living a lie, and being forced to live it too

ignorance is bliss

i feel like that cypher guy in the matrix

i seriously want to believe in magick, but until now, i think that it's just a psychotic delusion

secret societies? what if they are just mundane conspirators?

if magick is being used by the elite, why aren't they enslaving us through powerful magick, instead of bullshitting around via indoctrination and psychological warfare?

what if astral projection is just really advanced lucid dreaming?

disinfo is everywhere, you can't read something that isn't connected to some disinformation agent

ALSO, there are 7billion people on the planet, they say 1% of them is a wizard, that's 70million people

and not a single one of them uploaded some evident magickal video?

fuck this, i want to believe, but even with confirmation bias, i can't find proof

*tips magickal fedora*

>>34779

Actually, I used to have a webm of a penguin ignoring its pack and wandering off to some unknown location from /v/, but I cant find it. It was from some nature documentary, if I could find it I'd post it.

Anyway, is the general consensus that there is no "edge-of-the-earth" but borders of ice? That's always the theory I subscribed to.

>>36413

>what if astral projection is just really advanced lucid dreaming?

Anon do you even understand the astral? Lucid dreaming is literally projecting yourself onto the astral plane, you just asked if astral projection is advanced astral projection.

>>36422

what if the astral is just a fabrication of your brain?

>>36423

"THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental." - The Kybalion

>>36428

THANKS FOR THE LOOSH, MUNDANE!!!

>>36432

This

>>36428

Do not look at others' failures and then turn them into excuses to stop yourself from evolving.

>>36428

of course, self improvement and self deification is the only thing worth pursuing in this world

and you won't self improve by reading 1 book of half truths a day

as for the loosh, grab it, i've got infinite loosh

>>36428

I've always wondered if one could feed their tulpa by taking meth.

If a mage believed that meth was not a valid form of loosh, perhaps that belief itself would stunt the process? I look forward to these experiments.

That fedora poster seems to be derailing other threads, could be another poster but that is unlikely since the things said are almost the same.

If you are a shill, go back to whatever hole you crawled out of. If not, this is not the thread to be posting that kind of content - use either the shitposting, questions or fedora threads.

This thread is for the discussion and presentation of content regarding the Earth itself, and all other pertinent information related to it.

Getting this thread back on topic,

>>36420

The general consensus is that Antarctica acts as an ice border separating our known land from whatever else there is outside of it.

>>36428

Sounds like you have exceptionally weak will power AND you've been lead on a path that encourages you to study the occult

kek you must have fucked up badly to be put in such a cursed life

>>36461

what a strange concept of weak will power you have

realizing that you have to PUT IN THE WORK to get what you want is weak will power?

the weak willed are the people affected by magical thinking

thinking you just have to BELIEVE that you'll get it, and you'll really get it

call me in 5 years, when you'll realize magic is psychological and you can't "materialize" shit into this world

>>36463

What is it that you are trying to achieve by posting here?

Almost all the users here understand that effort is required to achieve anything of worth in all endeavors, be they exoteric or esoteric.

Belief is a tool to be used and discarded as one sees fit, its purpose is to help achieve one's goal.

It appears that you wanted a "one-hit miracle button" , and it was that very mentality that excited you to learn the arcane arts. Unable to find that effortless and miraculous solution to all of your problems, you now resort to attacking what had once given you hope and all things to it related.

You are projecting your failures onto others, and attempting to take away their hopes and dreams, which are similar to what you experienced before.

This process aims to defend your shattered ego, it is a natural response to cope with thoughts of inability, inadequacy and impotency. You are afraid that other's success in this field will validate your thoughts of self-worthlessness, so you try to steer them away from it.

While this happens, you may delude yourself into thinking that you are doing the right thing by discouraging others from following the same path you did- disguising a selfish act through illusions of selflessness.

You wanted what you envisioned to work out for you so badly that it has now created a backlash effect.

Am I wrong?

Polite sage for off-topic.

>>36474

nice psychoanalysis, you're partially wrong though

i found the occult because of existential depression, materialistic nihilism

if life was purely material, the life of an oyster wouldn't be more worthy than the life of a genius

life would be just suffering, and being born was a tragedy, as schopenhauer put it

buddhists try to eliminate all suffering, trying to commit suicide without actually killing themselves, as life is suffering

i was searching for meaning, and as albert camus put it, i choosed the leap of faith

faith in what? faith in trascendence

thinking that you can actually trascend from this material world

the reality is, you still have to wait to die

why waiting, though? i understand there's no reason at all to keep living in the physical world

i'm desireless

my only desire is the return to primordial chaos, anti-cosmic luciferianism, as they call it

other's success in this field would only fill my heart with joy and hope, since i just want to know i'm not deluding myself

i wrote this shit only for someone to prove me wrong

i don't care about this world, i don't care about the astral planes, i don't care about THE ALL.

I want total destruction

i just want absolute, pure, CHAOS

the true form of eternal bliss

how to achieve it?

>>36477

I was exactly like you when I started to venture into the esoteric. In fact, most people reach the Occult by desperation - in a last ditch effort to find meaning in life or to fix their current one.

I was nihilistic at my core and, no matter how much meaning I tried to attach to my life, nothing seemed to matter. Everything seemed lackluster to its very essence. I could write a whole essay about it.

I did not care for life or death, existence or non-existence, to move or to stop.

However, as I studied the Occult and started observing my life, my thought process slowly changed. I began to create meaning.

The taint of nihilism was still present but I could slowly reach out into the light at last. It was a arduous process that required hours upon hours of introspection. I dissected my very being and analyzed its every thought, desire and expression.

I reconstructed myself.

Before, the Occult told me that I was as God but I did not understand what that meant.

Then, through intuition, logic and reasoning, I made the right choices in my life. I finally understood RIGHT and WRONG. I began to develop, nurture and mature. I began to come into my senses.

But some pieces of the puzzle were still amiss.

Then, I found out about the flat earth theory and I started questioning those beliefs that escaped me.

When I saw the error in the heliocentric model, I realized deeper truths within: no longer was I a disposable byproduct of a "cosmic coincidence", I AM; I WILL; I DO; I am the son of God and Man; I am the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I am what was, is and shall be. I am able to create and to destroy. I am not powerless. I am free. There is always a choice. I chose to stand up and overcome the challenges set before me. They exist only to make me stronger, in my eyes they are divine providence.

With this resolve, I move forward. It is the path I have chosen. All nihilism has vanished.

Do not throw in the towel, a lot of people go through that. If I was able to do it, then so are you.

Will you let yourself be defeated by some random guy on the magic section of an anime image board?!

>>>/int/258088

>>34779

>>36420

Here.

>>35726

>35029 is correct

given that matter is holographic in nature then there is untold possibilities as to how nature manifests

There was a huge rise in interest in the Occult by the populace of the West in the late 1800s - early 1900s.

Authors like Atkinson were forgotten due to the World Wars, right?

It makes sense.

>>37038

The synchronicities are off the charts! here's a podcast I did that deals with underground/hollow earth stuff: https://archive.org/details/SkykingRadioEpisode1

Hi peeps, so does all this mean the world government and school/education system have been lying to us the whole time ? Guess its true what they say about saying a lie loud and long enough and people will believe it as if its the truth

I don't want to believe in a Flat Earth. I refuse to review the evidence that contradicts a Spherical Earth. To me a Spherical Earth is simply far more beautiful; it's the way things should be. This makes me a bluepill but so be it; fuck the very idea of a Flat Earth. If the Earth is flat I will make it into a sphere!

>>37763

strange that there is another such burst of interest about a century later.

I wonder if this is a cyclic phenomena as everything else in history seems to be.

Seriously? Is this thread just here as disinfo or to make this board lose credibility? There ample videos of camera + weather balloon setups available on the internet that clearly show the spherical shape of the earth from different starting locations.

If you don't trust these videos then you could always conduct this experiment yourself. If you carry out the experiment and review your own evidence will you then claim that your video feed has been hacked? Critical thinking should not be abandoned in the quest for truth, not everything is a conspiracy and not all scientific facts are wrong.

>>37954

go have a look outside someday kid

>http://ifers.boards.net/

>>37954

https://www.endalldisease.com/man-proves-the-earth-is-flat-with-high-powered-telescope-video/

https://www.endalldisease.com/10-lighthouses-of-the-world-prove-the-earth-is-flat/

Alright /fringe/, you have to understand how the Earth was deemed a sphere before you start contesting that it's actually flat.

The flatness is the illusion; not the sphere.

>>37958

the Earth appears to be flat so to say it is not flat would require proof to be taken as fact

>>37958

Please explain why an ex NASA employee is a flat earther

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQt9vq3sdtQ

>>37968

You're so fucking gullible if you think that guy is actually an ex NASA employee.

He's doing an act to fuck with dumbass people like you.

You're just not in on the joke because you WANT to believe.

Did you even google the supposed planets that he made up?

I used to watch all these sorts of videos because I'm fascinated by people in deeply delusional states.

Steven Christ is my favorite.

>>37965

Things appear to fall at different speeds. Yet, in a vacuum they fall at the same speed. Which one is the illusion chump?

Your appeals to "common sense" are extremely ironic for someone on an occultist board.

>>37988

where is this "gravity" in the vacuum?

must be on vacation or something

>nasa vacuum is not a real vacuum

>>37954

>is on fringe discussing fringe theories and magick

>Is this thread just here to make this board lose credibility?

I doubt it

On the disinfo part, I speak for myself when I say that it is not my intention when I post more content here. This thread isn't necessarily exclusively for the Flat Earth, it is to be used as a debate for various other related theories so feel free to contribute as long as you don't merely provide conditioned responses.

>Critical thinking should not be abandoned in the quest for truth, not everything is a conspiracy and not all scientific facts are wrong.

You are correct, which is why we should tread carefully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYgzNDNCcxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdy4DzR5xIw

>>39045

I forgot this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY0xhUOL3vM

It may shed some light on >>35826

>>35146

>>35150

>>35118

>film in desert

>edit the video with a redish filter to make it look like "the red planet"

The Kybalion speaks of the "solar system". Is the Kybalion now disinfo?

:(

>>41038

>le kybalion is absoute

IMO the flat earth theory was intentionally disseminated information to lead people astray from the true "fringe theory" about the earth's structure, that is, the hollow earth theory. If one can be fooled to believe the earth is flat, they will never consider the hollow earth theory.

>>43808

cont

In much the same way "alienz" is a theory disseminated by govt. to throw human experimentation subjects off the trail.

>>38084

>>38084

A vaccuum means there is no air. Holy shit, you need to open a science book.

seems like bullshit to me. the earth being flat goes against the universe's tendency towards things that are circular/spherical.

Jeez guise, haven't you ever heard of squaring the circle? Take a square, now increase all four angles from 90 degrees up and up until they become 360 degrees. The square expands and then turns inside out and becomes a circle. Tada! Flat earth = spherical earth. They are just seen from opposite sides of the Warp Bubble (merkavah).

>>37954

>weather balloon cameras that use fish eye lenses which artificially curve the image

>proof the earth is round

Pick one and only one.

>>35819

Very intredasting.

Also, related to this is the idea that on a flat plane, all men are equal counterparts of the greater system of mankind, whereas with a globe, every person is standing on top in the center of their own little world with the rest of everything around them beneath them

>>45137

I watched some of the videos and I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm at least partially convinced.

How does gravity work if the earth is flat? What's on the bottom? What's in the center? Is there air everywhere? Why would the NWO want everyone to think it's round?

>>45269

>How does gravity work

you mean how does the THEORY of gravity work

that means it has yet to be proven

a simpler explaination is resistance of objects with other objects

just a theory of mine that the earth is just one of many planes that are stacked

the van allen belts or impassable fields high up in the sky is like a barrier

the super saline layer deep in the ocean is also like a barrier, the ocean itself can be seen as a barrier or even the sky

the "tunnel people" who live underground

high energy rising and low energy sinking, hot and cold air as an example, hot air (higher energy) rises and cold air (lower energy) sinks

this all seems to mix well with what is said in a lot of /fringe/ books

just think about your questions for a while

>>45279

Then what's beyond the ice wall?

There are a lot of facts that are given out by a lot of people, yet there is no real way to prove anything… if the powers that be have technology that ensures things happen to their liking, going out in the field and doing the measurements yourself would mean nothing because they'd have meddled with it in some way. I can't verify anything. I enjoyed listening to the talk very much, especially for reminding me of the nature of information about anything other than Self.

All that said, it is sort of fun to believe in this theory if I had to believe in a theory.

>>45280

think about this for a moment

the sun is rotating around the earth warming the day and changing the season

in places that the sun is not as present there is cold weather such as arctic/antarctic

the sun being somewhat present near the arctic means there is some warmth (north star may be a sun like object that makes a small area in north pole hot)

the sun being somewhat present in part of the antarctic means there is some warmth but as you go out further there would be less and less warmth

while that does not explain what is beyond the wall it does lead to the conclusion that it does not matter what is beyond (chance this thinking may be a trap)

>>45281

I was out at a spot today that overlooks the land and I could see a large amount of the horizon, it looked very flat

someone can tell me the earth is flat or round or pear shaped is the new one but if my eyes tell me that it is flat then I know it is flat or at least appears to be flat

your own senses should be considered above all else

also it would be more accurate to say that a globe earth is the theory and flat earth has yet to be disproven

New video, also added to the playlist.

Talks about the distortion of information related to this topic.

Also, the font on the post fields hurts my eyes, why the change?

Believing that the earth was the only world, that it was a vast circular

plane, and that it was the fixed and immovable center around which

revolved the celestial luminaries, the ancient Astronomers, in conformity

to the requirement of the doctrine of future rewards and punishments, as

inculcated in the Egyptian Version of the Exoteric Creed, divided it into an

upper and an under, or nether world, which they connected by a sinuous

and tenebrious passage.

>>34398

I like your perspective on that. Not the approach I would have took, but true, nonetheless.

>>46716

>muh paintings and weird lenses

>>43808

Flat earth was never a seriously believed theory though. Hollow earth and underground domains are all throughout the holy writings of various peoples.

>>46763

>muh fantasy stories

>>46763

It's seriously believable though

>>46775

Yeah, when you watch the videos it's really convincing. That, and the whole deal with NASA's fake images and the secrecy about the "South Pole".

>>46763

One of my "masters" is a firm believer in the hollow earth theory, as well as the fake moon. I have no idea what to think of this but he was the one to teach me about the jews so I don't know, maybe he is right.

>>34786

thanks for the video

>saved

>>34786

This video was very refreshing.

>>46716

Yes, you will undoubtedly see the convex if you are using a fish eye lens. Here is a video without one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIvu9k08n2s&list=PLG-JouZ4eUfjfnPRpVmgkmUetPhUCPGUJ&index=2

>>47638

what does that mean

Weird. I got the Images from /x/ while lurking a Thread. Post seems deleted and they going full "Listen and Believe what NASA says"! wtf?

>>35819

fantastic, thankyou for that. Probably one of the most important things I've ever read

>>45137

Why are shills the only ones who still use these corny 'mfw' reaction images? It's like they are using a 2013 edition shill playbook, with outdated memes.

>>47712

gtfo disinfo shill

>>47718

well wow… Im starting to believe this flat earth thing. sad to think the prison globe we're stuck in is closer to us, more so than I thought.

>>47720

> prison globe

well, it looks more like a prison pyramid to me, if the ancestors rly knew more.

Also, notice that the maya temple is called the sun temple.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/maya-civilization-night-sun-mayan-temple-history-365504

And in Xi'an is the moon temple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPgluChbciY

and in th emiddle are the great pyramids.

from the perspective, it looks like they knew were the top is of the pyramide globe.

It should be easy to calculate how far it is now.

>>36385

>if you are ever officially accepted

>if you are ever

>if you

>IF

there is that word again.

Holy Shit

The Earth, is 'Flat'

>>47837

you were asking to be banned and now you spout your disinfo nonsense here

>>47838

posting ionfos about how to spot a shill is disinfo?

>>47839

you were heavily implying him being a shill with that post

>>47840

no, i just wanted to do a thread about 'how to spot a shill' so th eifers could better spot shills on the board. After the post, i got banned, without reason.

>>47841

ok i was just speculating

one hour ago he wrote:

Update!: The New Quickest way to get banned from this forum is to do what many new members keep feeling the need to do on their first or second post - start a new thread for a subject that is already covered in an existing thread and/or start a new thread without significant research/content put into it. Please don't start threads, for example, with just a sentence or two and a video. I only want new threads which contain significant research/content in the opening post, thank you! Peace

>>47842

the bread i made was huge , filled with infos from GG and how to spot a shill with all tactics. that was damn important info. He could at least take a look into it.

i linked all teh infos from the pastebin 'how to spot shills' and the COINTELPRO Tactics.

i explained why i had such knowledge and what we had to face within gamergate.

so, it wasn't a 'one sentence' thread or just a video and two sentence.

sorry for my bad wording.

>>47843

that's what you should have said in your first post

that's kind of repulsive, yes

>>47846

and yet, i'm still banned.

This kind of information i gave to ifers is uniqe. We may aware of shills overall but since GG we were able to disassemble these groups and categories in different groups. This infos or these infograpics/pastebin knowledge didn't shared so far with other groups who also suffer from shills.

When ever there is a hot topic about a controversial theme, there are also shills. paid or not. But also, we should never forget that 'shills' play both sides.

means, by withholding important information about this it only gives one group on one side of the shills the power.

Since this info got censored on the pro-FlatEarth side i have to put 1+1 on my own together.

sidenote.

1.

They have breads about shills but only breads taht call out users as shills but do not go deeper into this topic!

2.

It was not a one sentence bread

3.

it already had significant research

>cointelpro is nothing new and is already documented!

>>35118

>I'm still wondering about space travel. How is it possible? Through extra-dimensional vibration engines?

Video related has a solution to your question, also he believes the earth is hollow but he states it as: "Using logic, the earth has to be hollow".

Interesting vid none the less.

>>47843

/thread/544/cointel-protocol-infiltrate-internet-forums

>start a new thread for a subject that is already covered in an existing thread

>i got banned, without reason

>i have to put 1+1 on my own together

>ayyyyy

>>47887

> /thread/544/cointel-protocol-infiltrate-internet-forums

but anon, that's just images? Do you even know how much infos gamergate has!

what a fucking newfig are you? You Damn IFERS Shill!

I don't even know what gamergate is.

>>47903

"i won't even attempt to refute the solid case anon has againt me so I will insult him instead" - faggot (you)

you should know that you only serve to bump a thread that has some infos in it and your sliding will not affect most people on this board

>>35015

True, although, the old testament is a pretty good "blueprint" to the physical world.

>>47908

And as we all know, that which occurs on the physical, indeed is mirrored from the metaphysical.

Hypothesis:

(If) all planets, have their own orbit and their own pace around another planet with different distance to each other. Also with different size.

What i should see:

I expect, something like, many little or huge Storm formations of Stars. Sometimes slow, or fast.

Question:

How comes it that a timelapse video of the night sky shows us an Image that looks like a painting without the movement of the different planets who should all different to each other?

>>47920

look, i said:

>Hypothesis:

>

>(If)

'How' would a round earth (who would spinning) work, compared to this Hypothesis.

>>47921

It seems pointless to speculate.

1. Tell everyone they're on a ball flying through space

2. Make up some shit about gravity

3. …

4. Marvel at how smart people are easier to control than dumb people. Steal souls, etc

3.

>>47923

it is about >>47919 my question

>Question:

How comes it that a timelapse video of the night sky shows us an Image that looks like a painting without the movement of the different planets who should all different to each other?

with the model of a round planet:

Hypothesis:

(If) all planets, have their own orbit and their own pace around another planet with different distance to each other. Also with different size.

>>47924

I might be able to answer this question.

>How comes it that a time-lapse video of the night sky shows us an Image that looks like a painting without the movement of the different planets who should all different to each other?

that what you see is actually a light coming from million of light years away from you, it's basically a "flash" from the past(time machine), because the star you see might be actually dead/exploded/non-existent and all you see is this "still image" that update slowly overtime shinning new star each time and replacing the old lights.The movement on nearby planet is far more observable than let say a planet far away, and even planet far away aren't observable because they don't reflect enough light so that we may even see them.

>>47925

>that what you see is actually a light coming from million of light years away from you, it's basically a "flash" from the past(time machine), because the star you see might be actually dead/exploded/non-existent and all you see is this "still image" that update slowly overtime shinning new star each time and replacing the old lights.The movement on nearby planet is far more observable than let say a planet far away, and even planet far away aren't observable because they don't reflect enough light so that we may even see them.

thank you.

Also, the observer is in the "Hypothesis model" on a fast moving body (earth), that may explain why the starts seems fixed.

>disinfo shills first reduce magic to psychology and now ridicule probably the greatest secret of Earth

just posting this useless post to state that the OP's game cards have mostly been true, if not all been true. I'm starting to doubt NASA version of things I never really trusted them anyway.

>bread infested by ifers shills

>>47940

>natcuck calls others shill

Sorry that your Hollow Earth Hitler hasn't reemerged yet.

Ok, I'm sold on this.

Whaddafuck.

What does this mean to us?

I just had a walk outside and noticed how the moon was lighting the clouds in a spotlight like fashion.

So once again this comes into play.

>>47311

—O—

–/-|-\–

-/–|–\-

/—|—\

Wish I had a decent camera because the night sky tonight is very pretty.

rfed

I am much more interested in the implications of this.

Suddenly astrology and phenomena like falling stars appear in an entirey different light.

How can we make use of this knowledge?

here you go

>>48111

but he want you to buy it!

>>48127

go to http://ifers.boards.net/

way better then here!

And don't use this mega link!

>>48128

I already used it. What do? :(

Disinfo shills are in full swing today.

>>48150

disable the addBlock on his board and watch his monetized videos.

>>48176

Why? :(

>>48181

money

What about the seasons? We know seasons exist right? Only a tilted spherical earth would explain those. Summer in the Northern Hemisphere = Winter in the Southern Hemisphere.

What about the tides? A spherical earth (in conjunction with the moon) explains those as well.

Furthermore, if the earth were flat, the sun would be visible all over the earth disk during the same day. Just call someone at 12 pm on the direct other side of the disk and ask them if they can see the sun. Of course, it would be night there, thus disproving the flat earth theory.

Flat earth doesn't hold up.

>>48380

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XugZ9wGnk9M

This one video makes you look like such a fool.

>>34284

i've flown many times. and seen pictures from higher. there is no curvature.

>>48381

Then i have a few questions for you.

1. Why would the sun be flying in circles above the flat earth? Orbits around points of mass can be understood, but orbits around nothing with the north pole as center? Can someone explain? What makes the sun move in circles?

2. I get that the seasons can be explained by the sun moving up and down the latitudes, but what is the force that moves the sun towards the north pole and back again? Nothing in this reality moves by itself, it is always set in motion. Furthermore, this spiral model is very inefficient energy wise.

3. What blocks out the sunrays from the other side of the earth disk? In this video, it is explained that the view of the sun is blocked by the land, or it is the distance. The sun would be 'flying' above the earth right? Then how can the land be an influential factor in the view of the sun? If you live in the middle of a steppe in russia, you're basically fucked. Sorry, no sun for you. And for distance, how does distance factor in the fading out of EM radiation?

4. Wouldn't the sun fall towards the earth? The sun in this model is subject to the earth's gravity 100% of the time (well, as always), and would fall towards the earth. According to the current model, we fall towards the sun all the time, but miss it each time because we are going so fast. We will not fall IN the sun. The sun on a flat earth would fall on the earth, right?

It doesn't seem credible enough for me.

Every single one of you should read the chapter in Prometheus Rising

"The Thinker Think and the Prover Prove."

The Earth is flat, you disinfo agent.

asking questions

>disinfo agent

>>48390

FUCK OFF KIKE

The Earth is flat!

>>48385

This is the last post I will waste on you chaim.

>orbits around points of mass

What is the "theory" of gravity? An absolute force that is not always absolute and is completely unprovable.

>nothing in this reality moves by itself

What moves you? Why are you alive?

>what blocks out the sunrays

Despite what you may think there is substance in the air. If you point a laser at a distant object the beam will grow and diffuse as it travels. At some point it will not be visible to the eye.

>wouldn't the sun fall towards the earth

What is the "theory" of gravity? An absolute force that is not always absolute and is completely unprovable.

Why does the sun need to have mass?

Your questions reek of ignorance and/or misdirection.

>Furthermore, this spiral model is very inefficient energy wise.

ayyyyyyyyy

lmao

>>48393

>Muh scientific illiteracy

Jesus christ no wonder the kikes are doing better.. Ignore anything you want, you're keeping yourself deluded.

>Gravity cannot be proven

It can. Read about the mountain experiments. Schiehallion for example. Although inaccurate, the principle works. Masses attract each other. Though gravity cannot be explained, it works.

>It's just a theory!

So is the flat earth. Why don't you test the theory of gravity by jumping from a building? I'm sure you'll be fine.

>What moves you? Why are you alive?

jewish blood magic

Biology. We get the ability to move from energy released by biochemical mechanisms. Just see if you can move well after months without food.

>Sunrays diffuse!

True, but diffused light would still be visible. Diffusion does not mean the complete blocking out of the sun. Absorption fades out sunrays, as happens in the deep sea. Air is way less dense, and would not absorb enough light to block out sunrays on the distances of flat earth.

Science works, deal with it. Your car or computer is not possible through magic, but through science.

Pick up a good science book, learn the concept, challenge it, disprove it and come back with sound logic, not counter-questions.

gtfo

>>48443

>Although inaccurate, the principle works. Masses attract each other. Though gravity cannot be explained, it works.

You say it yourself, it cannot be explained. You can witness an effect, the consequence of some phenomenon, but you don't know what the cause actually is. Therefore the concept of gravity is not a necessity, it could be something else entirely.

>Why don't you test the theory of gravity by jumping from a building? I'm sure you'll be fine.

I think you're referring to density. When you're denser than the fluid around you (in this case the air), you fall. When you're less dense, you rise.

>Biology. We get the ability to move from energy released by biochemical mechanisms. Just see if you can move well after months without food.

Of course if you lack sustenance and therefore energy you won't be able to move. But the energy itself isn't what makes you move, it is you who decides to make use of that energy to move around. I believe the concept of will here is fundamental. And in the case the sun doesn't have its own will, something else can act on it to make it move, such as laws. Some have brought up the idea that the sun circles around the magnetic North, but as I'm no expert on the topic, I'll leave it at that.

>True, but diffused light would still be visible. Diffusion does not mean the complete blocking out of the sun. Absorption fades out sunrays, as happens in the deep sea. Air is way less dense, and would not absorb enough light to block out sunrays on the distances of flat earth.

I am not certain concerning this, but I believe it has to do with perspective. The horizon is the line of convergence of what is below the eyes of the observer and what is above them. There are many examples around illustrating this, such as in a long corridor where the ceiling and the floor converge in the center of your view. So I would speculate that with this in mind, if you cannot see the sun as it goes over the horizon, you cannot see the light it produces either. Just a thought.

>>48385

Why would the sun be flying in circles above the flat earth?

Quantum locking of the sun and moon's magnetic fields holds them there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA

>the day i see shills on /fringe/

>newfigs should go back to their flat shit board

Empowerment through truth. Delicious.

a 1000$ plane ride up high enough would shut most of the retardation up.

>2200 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

>>49040

Keep living a lie

>>49037

Very nice info dump.

This morning around 10:30 I looked up and saw the moon, which is not unusual in the daytime but not an everyday occurence. The thing about it was a part of the moon was cut off/not "lighted". Since the sun was in clear direct sight of the moon, if anything the moon being a "reflector" as some would say, it would then be a full moon. A clear impossibility for a globe Earth.

A simple look into the sky and I had proof against a globe Earth. Then a look to the horizon for proof of a flat Earth.

>>49040

fly that high without looking out of curved glass

>>49066

Don't forget the distances of sun and moon. Can you make a drawing of this?

>>49079

I could make a drawing and did consider it but for many reasons I don't want to install a drawing program.

From where I was the sun and moon were both about 30 degrees above the horizon and almost in opposite sides of the sky. The sun was "rising" and the moon was "setting".

There was no Earth blocking the suns light from the moon.

>>49083

ayyyyyyy

I was posting this while listening to todays "Ball Earth Skeptic Roundtable" and the guest mentioned (1:04:00) how in Canada you can see the sun and moon at the same time and the moon is eclipsed even though there is nothing to eclipse it. Just what I was talking about mearly minutes after I posted.

I am in Canada.

You can convince me that magick exists, you can convince me that conan is a good show, you can convince me that everything is made of chaos….

but fuck on off with the flat earth bullshit - at the center of this fucking planet at the poles are entrences to the inner earth, where you will find other races of beings.

earth is not a full solid piece of rock, it's a living entity, not a fucking flat warhammer board

>wonders why every flat-earth believer and pusher also appears to be skiny-fat or obese white idiots with terrible hair upkeep or die-hard hardcore extremist muslims.

Everybody should just block didi. Such an idiot.

>>49094

The flat earth is hollow.

>>49072

The glass isn't curved and he's lying. You can't even see the curvature from a balloon in space.

holy fuck why is this cuckoo shit the top thread on this board? for fuck's sakes

>>49164

Thanks for bumping it. Try entertain the idea and look at the proofs before you comment

>>49168

lol no

>>49172

Good goy

I thought there was something strange with one the mods on the ifers.boards.net forum so I posted something that I knew he would have trouble with. Even putting a disclamer so as to not get attacked.

The result was my post being partially quoted, replied to in a jew-like slander way, post removed, forum ban, and ip ban.

There should be no need for many of you to know the mods name as a quick look through the forum should show who it is if you are perceptive enough.

ifers is the claimed leading forum for flat earth and they have what I can only describe as something worse than a channer irc hugbox clique.

There is something very strange going on there, use caution.

>>49173

idk the truth about the shape of the earth but be very careful of the "mainstream" flat earth shit. it came out of fucking nowhere and blew up in 12 months, that shit does not happen unless they want it to. there is disinfo

>>49970

we all know. let it sage.

>>49972

ok im glad, just posting for the newbies (i am a newbie)

>>49970

Most of that article is like 'X person associated with flat earth is bad, because he is associated with the occult.' well this whole board is associated with the occult, how do you figure that fearmongering will fly here? also the article completely ignores flat earthism prior to the 16th century, and ignores all of the flat earther's actual arguments, focusing solely on impugning their character.

>>49970

I think he's a psyop but I also think its still flat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

>>50490

Control of resources which aren't as scarce as they seem.

>>50490

Domination

>>35020

>Inception music

His voice makes me giggle.

Ok you flat earth dinguses, explain the sunrise and sunset. Now I imagine if the earth was indeed flat the sun wouldn't just pop behind the horizon and disappear so quickly from view.

>>49970

dubay is probably a psyop or he's mistaken on some issues, but that article didn't do much to expose him or flat eartherism

>>50019

agreed I think

>>50020

this

>>50020

>his critics scorned him, calling him Beta

That happens to me as well.

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>>49037

Great dump. Will help immensely.

>>53018

Good luck to you sir.

>>53018

I was thinking on the story of Icarus some days ago in relation to flat earth.

>don't fly to close to the sun or your wings will melt

There may have been more to that story.

The Earth is a flat plane, just as everyone has always known before the Freemasons indoctrinated everyone with science fiction and faked some moonwalks in a studio.

>>49385

The Flat Earth society is the oldschool controlled opposition

IFERS is almost as bad

Just stick to the evidence

>>35815

Not at all, in my opinion it makes it more plausible, since the planets are no longer just other balls of rock/gas in a random universe, they are celestial luminaries.

Any theories of astrology that use the 3D solar system model would have to be discarded, but the ancient ones were not like that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcej1UQFv5c

Dubayous flat out lies in his models, that is why the arguments are convincing. False premises - False conclusions

>>53131

Truthiracy should have stuck to making funny satirical videos about the dubious "vast conspiracy network" presentation instead of becoming the obsessive mundane autist they are now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chYkhlCon6E

>>53131

Yeah Truthiracy is very childish but it dosn't change the fact that doubious outright lies. Also none of his arguments stand scrutiny which the aforementioned wanker debunked.

It doesn't matter if NASA photography is faked (I agree most of it is rather obvious) Dubays models don't work with any astronomical functions, his arguments about views from the a plane are blatantly false and his arguments based on sun rays ignore refraction.

If we want to discuss alternative world views at least cut any arguments that are provably false

>>53385

Ignore Dubay if you like, there's endless sources of information on this topic (and yes you have to wade through some disinfo shills)

Consider the view in this video. This is over 100,000 feet, much higher than a plane. The horizon is flat, still at camera level, and the sun clearly very close over the surface of the Earth, not 93 million miles in the background.

And check out this video, the moon is tiny and visible when it should be on the other side of the so called globe. This makes sense if it far away over the flat earth.

>>53409

https://youtu.be/qAS-Kz24BtM?t=19m25s

^An elaboration of what >>53413 said

100,000 feet is nothing

>>53410

>The Earth Is Flat!

>100% Video Proof

>Globe Earth Debunked

Hurmm must be bullet proof evidence since he asserts it so strongly in the title, this must be the last video I ever need watch on the subject!

>Epic movie memes

>Edgy music

Ow wait, this video doesn't prove shit, its clear in the video he dosn't have exact times so its all just speculation.

He gets out a neat little daylight calculator so people can work out how dark it is on the other side of the world and pretends that the moons visibility is limited to where the darkness is on the globe using the time he pulled out of his ass.

He doesn't zoom in when he brings out the 3d model because he doesn't want people looking closely.

So as far as I'm concerned the guy is a publicity whore making big claims for attention on his youtube channel and doesn't deliver.

Is this the sort of character who we should even contemplate giving our trust?

>>53410

Also the 'fish eye lens conspiracy' attitude you get from all they videos is getting pretty old. Fish eye lenses are attached to light weight action cameras because they offer the largest perspective with minimum footprint. Sending one of said cameras into space without modifying it to be rectilinear also makes sense since the modification would reduce the perspective you get on your expensive rocket launch.

>The Erie Canal is a canal in New York that originally ran about 363 miles (584 km) from Albany, on the Hudson River to Buffalo, at Lake Erie.

They accounted for less than 600ft of elevation. They did not account for the 87,000 ft curve. Ask an engineer or architect or builder if they take into account curvature of the Earth. They don't.

>>53467

I am open minded, and I would support the notion of a flat earth if I could see footage from a rocket that keeps flying away from the earth beyond a distance at which the entire earth should be visible revealing a continuous landmass instead of a sphere, or even simpler, areal footage of Antarctica either being much larger than it should or abruptly ending.

>Consider the fact that you're spinning at 1000mph at the equator. That means in 12 hours time you're going 1000mph in OTHER direction, yet we feel nothing and cannot measure it.

You just explained why you don't feel it. To understand more easily, scale it down dramatically, to one of those centrifuge rides at a theme-park or carnival. It spins around, holding the occupants against the walls with centripetal force. That ONLY works because you're changing direction rapidly. If it took 12 hours for the ride to make half a rotation, you wouldn't even be able to tell you'd been moving at all. The fact that it's 1000 mph looks like a big number doesn't actually matter when you have to travel 12000 miles before the direction reverses.

As far as it being measurable, it is. You can measure the force of gravity at the equator and compare it to the force at the north or south pole (where there is no centripetal force acting on you) and if your tools are sensitive enough, you'll see a difference.

And as far as structural engineering is concerned, it's not common for a structure to need to take the curvature of the Earth into account, because most structures don't have load bearing elements so far apart that the curvature matters; but when they are long enough, the curvature of the Earth is taken into account:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verrazano%E2%80%93Narrows_Bridge#Statistics

>Because of the height of the towers (693 ft or 211 m) and their distance apart (4,260 ft or 1,298 m), the curvature of the Earth's surface had to be taken into account when designing the bridge—the towers are 1 5⁄8 inches (41.275 mm) farther apart at their tops than at their bases; they are not parallel to each other.[3][14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humber_Bridge#Bridge_statistics

>he towers, although both vertical, are 34 mm (1.3 inches) farther apart at the top than the bottom due to the curvature of the earth.[10]

Do note that the distance adjustment of 41 mm and 32 mm is tiny, so even similarly scaled public works sometimes ignore the curvature of the Earth, if two load bearing structures end up leaning toward each other 15-20 mm, they'd still be well within safety parameters.

(I'm not suggesting that taking the curvature of the Earth into account proves that the Earth is a sphere, only that the practice does in fact exist.)

>>53475

Mate we are talking about a Canal here, the water is self leveling over the (curved) surface of the Earth so all you need to consider is the relative water pressure.

If I made a enclosed stream that looped the entire planet all I would need to do make sure that one end was above sea level to a degree greater than the section to the left of it (looking down from the north pole)

Now since I'm not coming from a Flat Earth paradigm I could see the obvious explanation as to why the engineering argument based on a canal is invalid.

If the proponents of flat earth had any integrity they would remove all cases of a false argument once a more simplistic/logical(Cartesian) argument has been put forth.

But they don't because the proponents of flat earth lack integrity.

>>53480

>If I made a enclosed stream that looped the entire planet all I would need to do make sure that one end was above sea level to a degree greater than the section to the left of it (looking down from the north pole)

so that the water would flow in said loop*