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The information on the Archons is good, but I forgot what they are called in that book. Maybe I'll get around to reading the rest, that is if my spirit leads me to it.

From a youtube comment on a video about spiritual entrapment through the demiurge and archons:

"Carlos Castenada's book "The Art of Dreaming" talks about moving the assemblage point of the soul into other realities. It even mentions what these inorganic beings are, and how they trap souls by sending scouts inside of dreams to lure conscious beings into their dimensions. What's really interesting and empowering is how it talks about the old sorcerers that could change their assemblage point to shapeshift and enter into their own dreamscapes permanently. Just as the soul can take any shape with intention, it can just as easily remove it's own soul contracts and begin to perceive it's other realities. We can take any form, construct universes, and alter physics with our soul. That's why soul energy is so important, most of our energy is spent perceiving this dimension but when we start to lower self indulgence in this dimension, we can relocate the saved energy into clairvoyant activities. Food isn't really giving us any energy, it actually is taking away energy from the act of intention of thinking we need it. There is no need to control others. Self control is the ultimate source of power, and all our power is ironically enough originating from the void. The fastest way to cultivate clairvoyance, is to either completely deny yourself satisfaction by fasting, no sleep, and sensory deprivation, or taking some psychoactive drugs to facilitate the ego deconditioning process."

The drugs are a bad idea. And you should really start reading from Castaneda's first book when he was a bluepilled mundane who had to take drugs first before he was able to reproduce the effects in the third book without them.

>>43701

Sorry, but i believe in medicine to an absolute, I wear a necklace with tobacco, sage, ska maria pastora, datura, cedar and a few other unmentionables with a hawks talon adjacent all tied with leather.

the entities associated with the various medicines are to be respected and not abused.

I never use them for recreation.

>>43703

It's not needed. As you said "I believe",

>>43704

true, but the act of creating a medicine object is something I felt I needed to do for myself and therefore did based on intuition.

>>>>43703

Still searching outside yourself, eh?

I took one step out of my car and had an eagle feather at my feet when I ventured and found my new home.

That's as far as I'll take it. Glory to the Gods!

And of course I kept the feather despite that being a Federal offense lolololol

One time an Indian War Chief in Taos NM offered to take me hunting on nearby tribal grounds. Pretty cool, I know. I never went.

>>43718

Real simple, just put the lime in the coconut. Put the peyote in the sweat lodge. Put the mutton in the chop. You'll pick it up in no time, kiddo.

>>43719

That is funny as fuck! I'll give you that! Not helpful. None the less, lmfao!

>>43720

You need to go fast in the desert until you see something. That means no food 3 days minimum. I cannot tell you what you will see. This is called a vision quest.

AND NO MUSIC, STUPID WHITE MAN!

>>43725

You don't belong in this thread, then.

One time I backpacked down into an Indian village in the Grand Canyon that still gets it's mail by mule.

Then the Indian dogs got into my food and ate it all so I hiked out at night really angry.

True story.

Have you read Theun Mares and his books?

So OP after you shook my hand I guess you figured out about /fringe/ and now you're here? Well, at least I wasn't harmed by encountering you.

>>43697

>I take matters of the spirit quite seriously and don`t really fuck with the seams of reality after being thrust into the void multiple times

>after being thrust into the void multiple times

Care to explain?

>>43890

I don`t take strong medicines anymore. when you recieve the message hang up the phone.

>>43826

no I have not.

>>44809

If all we're doing here is learning to swim, why not spend more time in the pool?

>>44823

the pool is fine but the middle of the ocean is not.

>>43848

may I ask who you are?

I only read the first 3 of those books, but in order, then IRL got too adventure-y to read much offline.

The Teachings of Don Juan

A Separate Reality

Journey to IXTLAN

i've tried most of the drugs you've heard of and basically have cred as an Avatar of Acid.

medicine is fine. drugs are fine. people who kill themselves with drugs are mundanes. magicians gather power using them as experiential aides. i respect the consciousness of the plants and chemicals, especially stuff like crack, meth and ketamine.

Method acting will take you very far indeed.

do the drugs with care. acid tip: it's SUPER-Seratonin. and the glowing runes really are there.

>>43697

hey dude, thanks for posting

i love plants, they're so kind and simple. i want to experiment with tobacco. from my limited experience it's good at cleansing. are there any specific procedures for preparing it other than smoking it that may be more friendly to the plant (perhaps a broth or a powder)? thanks in advance

>>44975

while i'm at it what's your ace book for traditional medicine?

>>44975

>>44976

The best thing to do with tobacco is by a few strains of sacred tobbacco and harvest it your self. You can do anything you want to it really. You want to pick the leaves and dry them green and make sure you have the purest soil because tobbacco will pick up heavy metals and then smoke them as cigars without inhaling too much. also you can baste the fresh leaves in molasses and let it cure for chewing tobbacco and last but not least you can infuse tobbacco into cream and chocolate for exotic deserts that will restart any old smokers habits.

I dont really have any books on traditional medicine, I know It from an ethnobotanical, biochemical, spiritual apetite I have had my whole life.

What you should do is verse your self in all cultural traditional medicines as they peak your interest and learn what the lore is behind them and then research the active chemicals and all various methods of administering those medicines. Kinda of taking in the old and the new at once. Don`t throw out the weird stuff without thorough investigation either.

Another thing is ceremonies and all spiritual objects are considered medicine in native american culture not just potions, tintcures and brews. Now I can make a mean cactus tea that will kick your ass with half as much cactus as some dirty hippy and his shit will give you a bad trip to boot. But we all know that mine is better because of intent and conjuring of the entity within that plant.

Let the plants be you professor and hear them lecture what they have seen and about their hidden powers so you may unlock yours.

>>44987

thank you!

Is a way to contact you available? Op?

>>45359

give me your gpg key and we can talk.

>>43725

This is literally in the bible

>who was Jesus

40 days and he was a new man

I read Encounters with the Nagual and I just found it boring, I couldn't believe those books were taken as serious work for a phd

They felt like watching that movie Into the Wild, it's fun if you think about what he went through, but honestly I didn't find anything other than cool story drugs. Did he ever summarize whatever he learned from the Yaqui, or are his books all about "cool stuff I saw while on drugs"?

>>63883

Read the later books, they are more insightful and have less to do with plants. There is a lot information on toltec ways from other authors. Feeding power plants to people is always a troll to haze your apprentice or nuke an idiot. That is what happened to Carlos. If you actually meet a powerful sorcerer you will be put through multiple kinds of hell for long periods of time just as a test. Once you are done meeting with plant entities that is when the real work begins. Some people simply don't need that sort of shock to the system but Carlos did.

>>43848

Why would you be harmed from shaking my hand? I don't harbor ill will against you. I've been lurking here for a while and this is the last place I'd expect you to call me out at. I didn't realize I was that easy to recognize. Nice running into you though.

>>63918

I let my dreams roll and interpret them later. I wouldn't know where to begin with dream work or astral projection. So you are familiar with the archons? What can you tell me about them? I have banishing methods that involve smudging with seers sage that I grow my self. Mundanes act weird whenever I placed hidden barriers around my house made power plants and symbols. One of my roommates would find all of them and throw them away as if he knew where they all were. Most of my magical routine is primitive and interpreted from source intuit making it robust and effective. I take it upon the mood to fabricate a "spell", build massive intent to divine or fire the huge laser. I always go all out to the point of needing to be taken care of. This can be with or without allies. The most profound is always with medicine. They will laugh at you and tease you but it gets the job done. Those entities are the biggest trolls. Ingesting the medicine plants becomes obsolete so that only it's presence as a symbol is needed. Feathers, stones, bones, leather, plants, chants, circles and squares. I'm not saying my way is best it's just the only one I know. I like how my results feel and occur. I've investigated most of the other practices here but nothing really strikes my fancy at the moment.

>>63918

My dreams have been profound as of late. What should I do to start dream work? Any resource you point out I'll review.

>>43697

The last time I invited psilocybin into my CNS it challenged me three times daring me to have a bad trip. Three times I chose not to then It relented the preasure. It then showed me what appeared to me to be its life under the soil. What do you think about all plant life having part of its existence underground?