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Wow, what a bunch of gobbledygook.

>>43729

Well, just because you're not interested doesn't mean someone else isn't.

You seem like you'd be interested in something like a Swedish Svartkonstböcker, judging from the rune:

https://mega.nz/#!sN4QXZKT!Ju9XKn9zYWdQIK_KIve3ejIzjBRGJe8USEKdTU_BLPw

OP, do you have any books on tantra perhaps, and are willing to share?

Western occultism is so full of crap, I wonder why nobody came up with a MLP version yet.

>>43770

My thoughts exactly. That's why I'm searching for more Eastern sources. Could you help me out, anon? What books do you recommend for a neophyte?

>>43767

A fuckton if you'd have checked my library in the sticky.

Eastern folder is primarily Tantra:

https://mega.nz/#F!9RowRSzI!HH6Uz0FVoAS5m48jETkVGQ

^Vajrayana folder, and folders that lean toward Saivism and Shaktism, with some beginner's/hard to classify stuff in the main one.

>>43730

Eh, a rune… Well, it is a pure form of language with actual meaning unlike anything written above.

So much of modern occultism is pure bullshit.

Nearly all of the ancient teachings were corrupted if not destroyed.

It takes years of cross-referencing and correlating to get a clear picture, not to mention direct experience.

Common sense and intuition are the best guides. Not some fucking slew of buzz words.

Why would you want to BIND yourself to the constellation Draco? The Draconians? Really? They are the main interfering force in this/our dimension.

It's like there is no knowledge of the ET Abduction scene here, like giving your life to some Dracos is an airy-fairy ordeal. Well, have I got another thing to tell ya…

Nothing trumps experience, not even a fucking slew of really really cool sounding words. Lame ass wannabe spellcasters, I swear.

Eh, whatever. Entrap yourself in the game of another, if you must. The Gods will know their own.

Hehehe… Here, allow me to learn you some about "Thubans":

http://www.orionmindproject.com/2013April02.html

Dragon has many connotations, it can be:

The Draconians

Nibiru The Winged Destroyer

Or The Kundalini, which the Draco force seeks to control

All real magic works with goals of ascending the Kundalini, not being entrapped in alien agendas through ignorant magical proceedings.

>>43791

Actually I have been going through this folder for about a week. What do you recommend for more left handed approach?

>>44040

As I recommended in another thread about the book, a dictionary and google are your friend for words you find unfamiliar.

Also, there's a glossary in the back for system specific wording.

for anyone wondering about adepthood books Between Spaces is a great one to read. beware its huge

https://mega.nz/#fm/loRF3JQS

>>44059

You linked that wrong, you forgot to include the filekey.

https://mega.co.nz/#!a4hwlbgY!W8gUs3toiGklOf6oT7d9JqykQ4IvO_mSbW6ELHzmFaY

Thelema; not even once.

Frater K, long time no see old chaporino!

Yes, quite.

Thanks for sharing OP

People like the OP end up studying occult lore for years and years on end because they're either purely armchair wizards that don't practice or they have modalities that don't allow them to advance beyond a certain point so they keep searching for new things but their assumptions about reality and its supposed limitations block them from getting ahead.

OP you got to root out fear, disbelief, and other bullshit undermining you and keeping you stuck buried in these books not grasping the pure and simple occult truths underlying all the systems so you can start reporting to this board (if you want) about the higher teachings you've received from the astral itself.

>>44146

>>44145

I like poems and tales and pretty pictures.

>>44145

What gives you the impression that I'm not working a practical system? Odd how many people seem to be certain of my habits of practice despite never having seen, spoken with, or lived with me.

>>44146

I have a number of habits informed by astral work, but tend not to talk about them unless someone asks the right question.

>>44157

Cool, enjoy.

>>44171

>Thelema

>practical

Go wear purple for a day and report back to me later about your experiences.

>>44219

I'm not sure what the issue is with implying Thelema is a practical system.

>All purpose banishing

>daily solar devotions

>yoga core

>evokation of many different entities

>working godforms

>instruction on AP

>instruction on Lemegeton

>instruction on sexual magick

>instruction on healing and harm

Also, I wear purple about twice a week, what's your point here?

>>44230

New update:

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

>A.'.A.'.>Philosophy

John Zorn's Arcana V. Musicians on Music, Magic, and Symbolism. First chapter was written by Bill Breeze. It's actually worth reading through.

Music and Esotericism. More or less what it says, it's an academic collection and only partially in English. I'll take the Zorn.

>Eastern>Vajrayana

Self Initiation of Vajrabhairava. Use at your own risk.

>European (finally filling this out a bit)

Religion of Ancient Scandinavia. A little old but none the worse for it.

Greek Magical Papyri in Translation. Just another edition of the same old shit. Substantially nicer than my current copy. It's an academic version. May throw it in the Grimoires folder.

Initiation into the Mysteries of the Ancient World. Another academic, presents pretty decent reconstructions of the Eleusinian cult, and others. May throw this in the A.'.A.'.>Philosophy file.

Greek Sacred Law. This thing is almost required for reconstructing the Greek religion. Combine this with Greek Magical Papyrus and the newly included reconstruction of the Greek mystery cults and, like, das it mane.

Magic and Ritual in the Ancient World. More straight anthropology than anything else, though there may be something useful for folks out there. Sperg alert: It's mostly only in here because of the Greek/Roman bits, which are only in a chapter or two.

Witchcraft and Belief in Early Scotland. Haven't looked. Probably useful for certain types of Wiccan, Pagan, or Cultus Sabbati folks.

>Gnosticism

The Mithras Liturgy. It's just an English translation of the text with the same name.

>Grimoires>Picatrix

Added the Latin version from the Warburg Institute.

>Kabbalah

The Enlightened Will Shine. Notes on Lurianic Theurgy.

>Neoplatonism

Rethinking Dionysus the Areopagite. Haven't looked at it, but it's PROBABLY a refutation of difference between Pseudo-Dio and the idiot that Paul converted.

>Voodoo/African

Obeah Witchcraft in the West Indies. Very old. It's a decent snapshot of what Afro-Carib magic looked like as soon as it coalesced, but it's old anthropology so take it with a few grains of salt.

>>53084

Thank you very much. Your mega is best mega.

>This is a stellar system. Much in the same way that the Thelemic aspirant binds himself to a star/stars/Sol, Dragon Book of Essex posits a method of binding the initiate to the constellation Draco

Why?

Astrology is just more materialistic "good goy" stuff. For thousands of years, ignorant magicians thought they were looking into a higher realm of spiritual mystery when they looked upon the night sky. Now it's 2015 and we know that's not the case, and there's nothing inherently spiritual about outer space. The sky is not more sacred than the earth.

>>53124

It's more an establishment of a theme, as well as building on the elaborations of those before (like Ken Grant, Chumbly's instructor).

Also, this isn't astrology which is divination, it's asterism, which is more theurgic. Also, DBoE is almost entirely "earthy/nature" based, like Wicca, despite its other goals. The circle has wood from eight species of tree growing locally, etc.

If you're not interested, you're not interested. If you are, thumb through the book.

>good goy

There's also some European stuff in the new update:

>>53084

>>53511

I started reading it, but got bored by all these rituals. I don't do rituals, except for the ones I do purely mentally and ceremonial magic just isn't for me I guess.

>>53514

Interesting, that's a very Tantrik mode of practice. You could do what AC did and learn them mentally, then perform them whilst golfing or horseback riding.

>>53531

Kaulajnananirnaya

Matrikabheda Tantra

And really everything in the Shakta folder, if that's what you're interested in. I think the only truly challenging reads there are "Power of the Impure" and "Cult of the Goddess Kubjika"

>>53534

Yeah, I started reading them just to see what are they about (as most books in the folder anyway) and they were too scholarly for my liking. But I didn't really get into them much.

>>53531

Do you have any recommendations on what to start with?

>>53543

Question for me or him and about this thread in general or about Tantra specifically.

Personally, I think Kali Kaula is a really good introductory text on Hindi Tantra. After that the Arthur Avalon material's not bad.

For this thread in general, I have a beginner's folder in the mega that's mostly assembled from old infographics on /x/.

>>53544

For him. Interested more in buddhist tantra than hindi though. Do you need transmissions to do all buddhist tantra stuff?

>>53547

It's preferred, though I have a whole folder on Vajranaya. I've not really picked through it so I can't recommend anything.

Kali Kaula should still have a few chapters that touch on how tribal Tantra merged into and out of Vajrayana, as Abhinavagupta was a self proclaimed reformer of Vajrayana,

>>53547

Kali Kaula, definitely. Lots of knowledge, both about actually practicing magic with it and a ton of historical/cultural info on Tantra.

Also, Jan Fries has cleared many misconceptions about Tantra which seem to plague Western society (presumably because of new age shit).

I am not nearly as competent as Frater K, and I don't know where did you get the idea of me having any knowledge of Buddhist Tantra.

>>53551

I assumed the kali kaula was buddhist, pretty stupid considering the name. Is the kali kaula lhp? Hindi tantra seems dark.

>>53548

Thanks I'll check it out.

>>53554

Depends on what you consider as LHP.

>>53531

I'm checking out Kali Kaula right now. It's amazing from the first page.

Usual bump.

Is Book 4 the best way to start with Thelema?

>>54983

I would say yeah, but I haven't read much else into it. "The Book of Wisdom or Folly" is a good one, as is the book of Thoth

>>54983

Magic in Theory and Practice

The Book of Lies

Magic without Tears

>>54992

The only useful part of Book 4 is Magic in Theory and Practice.

>>55026

Is all that theory?

Or does it contain any practices?

>>55027

The first one contains a lot of the material the A.'.A.'. wants beginners to git gud with. Also, a few other rituals. I think Gnostic Mass is in there, which is only relevant if you have a decent group of Thelemites to practice with, or the OTO proper.

Last two are theory.

Well, Book of Lies is operating philosophy.

MWT is theory proper.

If you want nothing but practice, Gems from the Equinox is decent, but even it is incomplete.

Crowley's letters are up:

https://mega.nz/#F!hVwCAQoZ!LykyCGE5rzj50oPKHBgMAg

>>55047

Do you have a copy of the Regardie-Crowley catfight letters?

>>55048

I think a few of them are in there, but you'd have to reference them with the Warburg/Yorke collection index.

Frater (or anyone who can help me out), what LHP authors/organizations are in your opinion worthwhile?

I started reading some materials from Dragon Rouge and ONA, as well as some random LHP authors, so far only Dragon Rouge "clicked" with me (perhaps because I really like writing style of Karlsson's and his book on Goetia and Qliphoth was amazing). If you cannot recommend to me something new perhaps you know what writings should I check out from ONA - I didn't get much into their works. Also, you have Koetting in your LHP folder, I've heard he is shit-tier (only read one of his books and it was mediocre at best so I don't really know). Any other random books from your folder you'd recommend I read?

>>55809

>perhaps because I really like writing style of Karlsson's and his book on Goetia and Qliphoth was amazing).

Karlsson doesn't know shit about the Klipot. I'm partial to O9A's THEM material, and not so much the ToB. Myatt's newest non-radical material is decent too.

Koetting is as bad as Karlsson. Sometimes he pairs up with legit folks for a book. The problem with Koetting is his gawd awful hype. Example: He's NOT the first person to experiment with Goetic legions. Academics knew about the legion material for decades and we've known about it since Henson's Lemegeton.

>>55812

Then I got tricked by him into believing he knows something substantial, a failure on my part. Thank you, gonna check out THEM. What do you think of NAOS?

Bumping this up because I've made a couple updates to the library I'll be posting here shortly.

>>66800

Have you had any heat for your library?

I ran the 450gb library recently and had some weird stuff going on, got an email with an apparent court order which was an obvious virus attempt, as well as occult people trying to add me on linkedin which I'm pretty sure was an attempt to dox me. This probably wouldn't have happened if I didn't have my email up there to take requests, but still.

Took it down since then.

>>66870

heh glad i downloaded all stuff, 90% was pure shit though :(

>>66800

Can't wait, your content is top quality.

>>66870

Nope, my last ToS violation got rejected by Mega, so there's that.

>>66916

I've had like ten fucking updates since I posted here last but I finally got around to making another index of those updates.

With the incredibly appreciated help of an anon from here or /his/ who renovated my Alchemy folder, we're not well over 5k items in the library. Didn't update much…added the new alchemy folder (listed as "improved alchemy" in the regular folder"), Added a single index of books added in the update folder.

We're now at 33.8 gb, 476 folders, and 5047 individual texts or files. Wouldn't have made it this far without anons wanting or submitting files. Thanks guys :^)

>>66939

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

In case you needed the link, I dunno what you guys have or if I've had to switch links or something between now and last time I checked in.

Happy reading (and practice too :3)!