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 No.46345

How does one (re)identify with ones desires? To not do so is to live in a certain kind of hell, in which one observes and suffers with ones body, but does not believe they are in true control of themselves and believing that even these are impositions from the outer world into your inner experience. What to do when dissociated from desire (that is to say, having them yet not fully identifying with them, as such not being able to make fully effective progress toward them)?

 No.46412

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I too would like to know this, for great personal interest


 No.46440

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>>46345

as i see it, it's like lifting weights. it takes months and months to build muscle, and your muscles start out weak, but the gradual progress is more satisfying than any sensual desire you can harness. it seems like you DO have desires, OP, because you want something besides your standard habit patterns. cultivate this!

lifting weights is practicing polarization, developing the arcane ego, mindfulness, and meditating a ton.

apply the principle of polarization to your everyday life. if an emotion doesn't suit you, focus on the opposite, tip the scale in your favor and take advantage of this momentary change. it's not hard, it's done by feel. no need to name your emotion. be aware that rhythm applies to your emotional states, there is an art of living, of finding a balance, a center with which to witness this rhythm with peace.

finding this center is helped by developing the arcane ego. actively practicing meditations in the arcane formulas helps. in my opinion, vipassana meditation does this meticulously, from the deepest part of the mind (dhamma.org).

mindfulness is a secret to lasting happiness if mastered. if you aren't mindful, you'll be subject to your emotions. and even if understand mental alchemy, you won't be able to apply what you've learnt until you're aware. but this is a difficult thing to do, to be aware every moment of your life. thus it's important to start practicing, steadily, methodically. start with mindfulness meditation for 15 minutes a day. over the course of a few weeks, move up to 30. eventually, after a few months, to an hour, maybe two. once your start meditating, you'll find it's easier to come back to present action and you'll be alleviated of stress caused by abstract thought. most importantly, you'll be aware. word of advice, don't use mantras or visualize forms. these have different applications, like inducing trances. good mindfulness means observing the senses as they are. fight your naturally instinctive mind on its own turf to turn the tide. no tricks.

lifehack: whenever you're walking, feel your pants against your legs. if you're eating, feel the weight of your utensil in your hand. if you're idle, just feel, or observe your breath. little tricks like this help a lot.

brotip: don't get frustrated, this is the mind acting up. be at peace with whatever happens, observe the mind-matter phenomenon objectively. you're battling against a lifetime of habitual thought, so it'll take a while to attain some mastery over the mind. rest assured that every single moment spent not thinking habitually is a moment of progress. remember this.

as mentioned above, meditation is your most useful tool. some meditations are used to achieve a means, others are used for gradual cultivation or mastery. if there is any way to make sure progress, it's by meditating on a regular schedule. stick to at least one method you think gives you the most benefit. meditation takes a lot of practice; there are a lot of intricacies that can only be learned by first hand experience.

i can't stress enough how important it is to meditate every day. but you can't force yourself to do it regularly. you have to want to, and to want to the technique must be right for you, it must give benefits in the moment and for time afterward.

the best secret to success in mental alchemy is practice, practice, practice.

and some more practice. banish yourself from your computer and print off the arcane formulas, make a room into a meditation room, do whatever you need to do to practice. and then practice some more. you only need to immerse yourself for 5 minutes to feel progress, every moment spent in these states, exploring the mind, is a sure step on a mysterious path. it's like learning to swim: by being in contact with water (mind), you learn.

good luck OP and to everyone who reads this, tread well and learn well!

p.s. i didn't mention breathwork or energy body work. these seem really cool, but i haven't looked into them yet.


 No.46441

>>46440

tl;dr reidentifying oneself with one's desires is part of mastering the mind, which starts with practicing the basics

i've also read some posts and a passage by ophiel that allude to doing work on your mind on the spiritual plane. this might involve going balls to the wall into arcane practices, because apparently the spiritual plane is a years-of-commitment to magic kinda deal. imo it's much more important to apply the hermetic teachings of mental alchemy to master yourself so you can have these skills at your disposal later on.


 No.46507

>>46345

Simply by desiring to identify with your desires you have put yourself into a viscous cycle with no escape.

Your desire is to identify with desire, therefore you desire to identify with desire and so on. You see?

Just be present. Because that's all you can do.


 No.46513

why do these shitty threads keep popping up?




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