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>>46354

Just get a proper diet and change your mental attitude via reprogramming and meditation. Medication is not worth its side effects, especially SSRIs such as prozac that can destroy your level of visualisation among other things. Interesting how most antidepressants come with a side effect of suicide, huh?

>>46360

Well at least, they are not depressed anymore, right ?

>>46373

A+

>>46373

Why the fuck would antidepressants actually fix your depression? That would be destroying their own source of income.

>>46392

English is not your first language. Is it?

>>46394

You're spot on, it's not. But in all likelihood that should have been enough to get my point across.

>>46396

Were you trying to use an analogy?

>>46392

"fix" it's a life long struggle.

>>46397

What analogy? I was trying to say that as a pharmaceutical company, it would be stupid to get rid of the disease or condition your product is advertised as being able to cure. I mean it's what antidepressants do, they just temporarily take care of the symptoms by sweeping them under the rug, but the problem is still there.

>>46401

"sweeping under the rug", what makes you say this? "cure" where does it promise this? You don't know how each individual person is dealing. Rome was not made in a day. If you have never reached a point of desperation, you don't understand. You'll try anything, just to make it stop.

>>46406

What I mean is that it's ultimately pointless, and it has the potential to fuck you up even more over time. It soothes you for a while but it actually never makes you confront the problem. Most of the time someone would just take them to be able to carry on with their lives, while trying to forget about the problem, and that's it.

While I do understand what would make someone resort to stuff like that, in the end it doesn't encourage you to face what's at the root of the matter.

>>46413

This is not a.. one size fits all, kind of deal. Everyone is different, everyone's situation, experiences,environment, tools,etc. All different. You really have no clue what you are talking about. What works for one person, wont work for another. Things are not so black&white and one dimensional. Step into other peoples shoes, and you will understand.

>>46413

Maybe they aren't trying to forget, they are just trying to deal with it? You can see a problem and still have to work through it. If your leg is broken, and you need some crutches and a cast… should I tell you not to.. because you are handling it all wrong? No. You would have to heal, right? What is so incorrect about that?

>>46416

That's not the right metaphor, puting crutches enables the leg to heal.

Antidepressant could be compared as a pain killer, it doesn't heal shit, it makes you dependent to it and it mereley hides the suffering, not treating it.

If your leg is torn appart and you are given morphine, the doctors still have to treat the wound and whatnot.

The problem is that people taking antidepressants don't treat the "wound", they keep "injecting morphine" into themselves without doing anything for it, and so the "wound" is getting infected until it "rots" and "the rest of the leg" dies, in this case they suicide because the pain becomes unbearable.

>Already states in the thread that anti-depressants are not a cure

>Why take pills then for something with even greater side effects?

>Magicians claiming to want to "know themselves" wanting to block off potentially years of development with anti-depressants that cause brain damage

These things are no joke and majorly rewire your brain. If you want any results put in the effort. I can't tell you the amount of people who end up being on the pills for 30 years doing nothing and not even treating themselves with respect because they're too zoned out. You are posting on the completely wrong board if you think that taking any major anti-depressant is a good idea because, just as another poster (rightly) said it just makes the problems more suppressed "swept under the rug" and you will now have to waste even more years and time repairing your brain and subconscious just to face these issues.

http://ssristories.org and do some more research before you decide to absolutely fuck the configuration of your brain just so you don't have to face your real root problems.

>all this crying about muh mental illness

Just quit being whiny bitches and will yourself out of it. I did it and you can too. There is no mental trick to happiness, no mundane pill or chemical agent to get that for you. No new environment or babying will help. Happiness comes from inside, from an infinite tap. Don't just turn that shit on, blow the pipes out nigga.

It's all right there inside.

>>46518

happiness doesn't exist

>>46519

If it doesn't exist, how are you thinking about it?

>>46519

My dick in your moms asshole exists though.

>>46521

It's an unattainable piece of crap people chase. If it exists, why are so many people searching for it? They get it, and it slips through their fingers. It's this fantasy world of nonsense to hide from reality.

We can't be happy because our society is sick and we are programmed biologically to exist in hunter-gather societies - 90% of human existence.

>>46523

You sound like you're on the verge of a realisation in regards to the physical world, but that does not mean that happiness isn't alive in individuals that are not heavily programmed.

If I were angry, would it be temporary or permanent? If I were to work on anger, and become angry all the time, would I not have near permanent aggression? Apply it in the reverse, master the pendulum.

>>46525

I know far more than I lead on.

>>46526

Did I offend an ego state? On an anonymous image board of all places! No wonder you aren't happy with so many insecurities.

>>46527

Don't tell me what I am or what I am not. You don't know me. Only I know me. I don't like your thou art holier than thou attitude. I find you to be disrespectful and condescending.

>>46528

Aw gawd, so much loosh, it's raining loosh!

I am not seeing what he says that you define as condesending and holier than thou. He just gave you the way to get out of the swing of the pendulum, just as this post did. >>46442

By not doing these and rejecting the truth you look like a 12yo not wanting to read books because

> muh its 2 hard!

>>46537

I am tired stressed out and probably not making much sense. You're welcome.

>>46523

You're reffering to the momentary and fleeting pleasures material gives you.

True happiness is very much real.

>>46528

Respect is earned faggot, you ought to learn to shut the fuck up when someone who knows more is teaching you something.

Sage for double post.

>>46539

>>46528

But to some degree I DO know you. Why? Because your external presentation mirrors your internal composition, and someone who is getting so offended and has to justify himself so much on an anonymous board is someone with many insecurities. Sure you could be playing "the fool", but what would be the point of that when you're typing in a thread about anti-depressants?

For example, you might be the most powerful "wizard", however if you walk towards me and can't even maintain eye contact (or you have to switch off or escape to do so) or not look above the ground/relax your posture then you obviously have a lot of internal works you haven't completed and are actually at the whim of many negative energies that feed off your weak aura. That's your "power".

That's not to say there isn't hope, just that you need to be real with yourself to get there. "Know thyself".

>>46419

This is a good post.

>>46518

>Happiness comes from inside, from an infinite tap. Don't just turn that shit on, blow the pipes out nigga.

How?

I was depressed too anons, and honestly i just tried detaching from my personality as stated in Arcane Formulas, it worked for the first time but how do i make it work again?

>>46566

I am great with eye contact, and my posture is fine. I am not as insecure as you assume. I do "know thyself" hence why I said "Don't tell me what I am or what I am not. You don't know me. Only I know me. I don't like your thou art holier than thou attitude. I find you to be disrespectful and condescending." to which you ended up telling me once again who you believe I am.

I stopped searching for happiness and found peace instead.

I feel like this discussion is unfit to be talked about here. Why? How many people have actually suffered it? I am talking clinical depression. Not "my dog died and now I am sad" kind of shit.

>>46617

"For example", I don't claim to know your life story but the fact you're so defensive is telling to me. I'm just relating back to you the perception others gain from what you've said, your external words being a reflection of your internal state.

I'm surprised that you know yourself if you are so easily replying and getting roped along to these posts, for what point? Is there something to prove, anon?

>>46620

How am I getting roped? I didn't tell you shit. All you do is rattle on about things you don't know about. If anyone doesn't know thyself, it's certainly you. Mind taking a look in the mirror friend?

I was thinking maybe those of us who were looking for legit answers to OP's question could get some more feedback instead of the thread dying with two people arguing over unrelated? Just a thought.

>>46615

pls answer im very desperate

>>46624

OPs questions already been answered. Don't waste your time with pills, you won't find "happiness" there.

>>46651

Fucking +1

>>46651

Clinical depression doesn't deal with the search for happiness. When you are struggling, it's just trying to be normal. To grab on to anything. It's like being in a burning building. Like being out at sea drowning. You don't understand.

>>46659

So you think you are going to get out of this pool of depression by continuously swimming in it ?

>>46661

Jesus fucking christ. Get fucked.

>>46553

We are all the teachers and the students.

>>46659

I understand perfectly. I understand that you came here looking for justification for using a quick way out of the pain, and everyone here instead said the truth. It will hurt, yes, but in the end you'll be immune to the power deppression has.

Bandaging an open wound won't stop the flow, help, maybe, but it doesn't fix what at the source.

>>46742

This is untrue. You can take all your assumptions and shove it.

>>46742

You don't understand because you do not know. I did not come here looking for a quick fix. I am not that kind of person. I use an analogy and you fuckers take it and run with it? If you could read in between the lines you'd see a big, fuck you.

>>46751

>>46752

Then please, enlighten me, what did you come here for?

Antidepressants negatively affect the libido. Anything that disturbs the sexual energy will stifle desire and willpower. I've a friend who takes SSRIs and now he has no ambition.

>>46354

It's another case of medicine treating the symptoms rather than the cause. Depression is a symptom of deep seated psychological issues that are better fixed through introspection, but our culture is created in such a way as to avoid introspection as much as possible.

>>46837

I've seen better. lurk more mundanefag