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>>6789

>actually happened
>false

Jokes aside, Perception of reality is pretty limited in physical realm, hylic, you should expect to people to have different looks on the world around them, sometimes almost like they live in a completely different realm (which is a pretty real sensation to them), it's all a matter of belief, if you believe something (or be convinced to believe in something, that's what we call brainwashing), your mind will find proof of it somehow, or in this case, the persons from both sides of the history will advocate their views despite the "general accepted truth" or at least say: "that's how I saw it".

Robert Anton Wilson discourses about these subjects in detail in his book Prometheus Rising, but take it with a grain of salt, assuming that you are full hardhead /pol/lack, you will probably suspect philosophical/psychological thesis by what would you call a "degenerate hippie", but he has an excellent point.

And that's only the mundane part of it, I'm not even talking about synchronicities and reality altering, for 2 reasons:

1. I'm a neophyte, I don't know shit about that yet.
2. Someone will probably answer better than me because 1.

>the movie 'Interview With The Vampire' once being called 'Interview With A Vampire' (there are no records of the movie's name ever being changed

This is complete autism.

I posted in the /pol/ thread but ultimately regretted doing so. I don't think anyone had a sincere interest in the manner and it was like one of those stoner philosophy threads.

I posted a lot of information in there but none of it really caught on.

>>>/pol/244400

…because I don't want to repost all that shit all over again.

>the Tiananmen Square guy getting killed by tanks running over his body, instead of being saved in the nick of time

Holy shit I remember this

>>6789
>the movie 'Interview With The Vampire' once being called 'Interview With A Vampire' (there are no records of the movie's name ever being changed
I think it's just Germans being confused. 'Interview mit einem Vampir' is the German title which means exactly 'Interview With A Vampire'. Hence reading the real title 'Interview With The Vampire' makes us confused.

I think the "Interview With A Vampire" thing can be explained by the fact that in most dialects of American English, the last "e" in the word "the" is pronounced ə, like how you would say "sofa." The word "a" is also sometimes pronounced ə. When a word beginning with the "th" sound immediately proceeds a word ending with the "th" sound, those words also tend to "run into each other" a bit because Americans don't stress every spoken word. Hence, "Interview With The Vampire" is often pronounced as "Interview Withə Vampire" and the title of the book is understood by people hearing the speaker to be "Interview With A Vampire."

What about the whole Australia being farther or closer away thing?

I remember it being farther away from Indonesia, not almost touching it with the tip, but that could just be faulty memories, and improper maps, because once that topic came up from ever since Australia was always very close to Indonesia.

I think there was also something about people saying New Zealand used to be to the northeast not southeast of Australia, but again chalk it up to false/improper memories and the like.

Be aware all of this could be some sort of deliberate social experiment like the classic "you swallow x number of spiders when you sleep" which was proven to be a deliberate hoax and started by some psychology researchers but for the longest time from 2000-2010 people genuinely believed it and repeated it, online and in real life.

This is a timeline shift op. There are lots of them some overlapping depending on what timeline you are on. It's pretty complex stuff with dimension braines pressing together forming a rift in our electric universe.

I can't really explain it well without tex equations. But basically a lot of people in your timeline should all be traveling together form one timeline to another. Knowing which timeline you are traveling on can get you some insights into what properties are causing the rift and how to control which way you go. Also the term traveling is misnomer really, because you are not going anywhere in physical dimensions.

I'm also a traveler on the Berenstein rift.

>>6789
>>memories of the children's book ''The Berenstain bears" being spelled "the Berenstein Bears"
You remember how you said or heard it now how you read it

>>the Tiananmen Square guy getting killed by tanks running over his body, instead of being saved in the nick of time
flood of false informations at the time because no one knew what happened to him and people telling stories always add some details

>>the movie 'Interview With The Vampire' once being called 'Interview With A Vampire'
maybe foreigners on the internet
if you translate it from german to english for example it is "with a"

>>6885
uhh huh. And magically people from all over the world in mass pronounced the name wrong for raisins?

Check your timeline privilege

Don't pretend to understand if you never even left your own timeline.

>>6789
>the Tiananmen Square guy getting killed by tanks running over his body, instead of being saved in the nick of time

I actually remember this. I remember hearing about him dying back then. What the fuck, he survived?

None of these things are provable though. In fact, the people claiming them (including myself) could just simply be flat out wrong, or may have just heard it from someone else incorrectly. Inaccurate information can spread just as easily as accurate information.

this might be a test of changing some nuances from the past on the internet. although I have a personal mandela type thing, one of the most important people to me, writer Tomasz Pacyński died of a heart attack in his garden, but I distinctly remember reading reports on the day of his death of him dying in a car accident. It was a huge impact on my life
he was a father figure to me and he left a series of very good novels unfinished. When I looked it up I was startled. I also remember Berenstein bears mentioned in a polish video game magazine around that time, and I remember that because it was used in a very funny joke I repeated through high school. -tain does not look right at all. Polish wikipedia still has the -tein spelling, too.
Things really feel weird around this issue.

>>6898
In my timeline Jimmy Carter was killed some time ago. I remember reading about it. And even yahoo searching alive or dead. And he was clearly dead.

A few years later I am not sure what changed and he was alive. very weird

>this amount of people somehow got Berenstain bears wrong as Berenstein and are only just a couple years ago starting to notice the difference
>but instead of going "Oh yeah no, my bad, it was Berenstain, that's right" or "Ah, right, I remember that. We just got confused, silly us" everyone who remembers Berenstein is adamant about it
Yeah, my 50 year old mum who bought the books and show, read them and watched them with us, and even after being shown Google, Britannica, and Wikipedia, she decided "Huh, they must have changed it at some point" is totally wrong.
Guys really, this is very frustrating. Everyone knows what it's like to remember something wrong. This stupid book thing is way fucking different. I've actually asked a lot of people about it, and not ever have they considered they somehow mistook it.
I have vivid fucking memories of Berenstein bears. Some of them from just before the apparent 'change' two years ago. I didn't even know what the Mandela effect is, so it's not like I'm going for what's more interesting. I just saw someone post 'Google Berenstein Bears' and every time I try to check with someone, I just describe the show and make them say the name themselves without any explanation or other provocation of why I'm asking. This many people don't just 'get it wrong'. Notably, everyone has had the same amount of sureness and then skepticism (I tried telling a few Berenstain's it was actually Berenstein, and they reacted the same exact way the Berenstein people initially did). This is fucked.

>>6789
>Berenstein Bears
This one still blows my fucking mind, the fedora in me says there's probably a rational explanation, but my inner greenpill yearns to believe.

>Tiananmen Square
TBH I had no idea if he died or not till now. Given that this was before the iron curtain was lifted and the Internet became widespread, a lot of misinformation will inevitably spread a la Chinese whisper around the world through secondhand assumptions, etc. on the part of confused relayers.

>Chartreuse
Sounds kinda frenchy, wine-ish. Yellow-green isn't the first color that comes to mind. No context clues from foreign roots.

>Henry VII
No idea. I don't know my nobles very well.

>Interview with The/A Vampire
This is actually a very common speech mistake, compounded by the fact that in American English "with the" and "with a" are pronounced virtually the same. Then there's foreign confusion over definite and indefinite articles… I don't see any supernatural synchronicities here.

>>7225
It's an issue with pronunciation. "Th" is very soft, often inaudiable to the point where "the" (thuh) and "a" (uh) sound very much alike, especially after the "th" in "with".

The -stein -stain thing has really been getting at me for a while, as it was my favorite book series as a child and I even traced the name of the books as -stein when drawing. I am convinced 100% that someone has messed with the matrix on that account.

I am also positive that the film was called "Interview With A Vampire" as I distinctly remember thinking about how the letter A made for giving the title as a whole an nice symmetry. (I get off on symmetry…..so what)

I have even had false memories pertaining to my own life, very important events too, but to see it happening on a massive scale has me very very very curious.

Now you're just reaching. This has always been green.

As far as I've been able to tell, it's actually more common that people remember it as -stein, than -stain.

Those are all easy to mistake, or noone ever learned.
Berenstain is easy to mistake, since it is spelled differently than the name.
Who was taught about the protester in China?
Florida is often overlooked in history (Floridafag here).
Anne Rice's movie is an easy thing to mistake.

>>6860
Can I sue that cunt? Been sleeping with my mouth forcefully shut, going to great measures to remove arachnoid

>>10942
You should have your mouth closed anyways to prevent mouth breathing.

Regards, Atkinson frogs.

>>7210

…except that the human memory is notoriously poor and easily manipulated(even, sometimes, unknowingly). I don't doubt for a second that something like this IS, indeed, likely possible but I don't think peoples' memories are the best proof. Until we find any more evidence, I feel like this is nothing more than a case of(not to mention a good example of) our/humans' poor recall.


There are many, many, many books, websites, even YouTube videos(which are easy to find) which will walk you through experiments done to prove this over and over and over. Even if you don't agree with this point of view, I'd still highly recommend at least a video clip or 2 - it's interesting stuff, for sure! - for example, even in the case of people witnessing a mugging & then being asked a simple question(like what color pants was the mugger wearing?) less than 1 minute later - they can't remember. Ask 30 different people and you will get 31 different answers; it's true!

FTR, I remember correcting people regarding the Anne Rice thing back when I was like 11/12 years old(yeah, I was an odd child).

Although, I suppose I should add that I can relate to the whole New Zealand thing. I'd only realized I had it wrong maybe less than 2 years ago now, which is odd because I'd done a project in high school(I'm 28 years old now) which involved re-creating a map of the Australasian continent & surrounding area in which, of course, I had New Zealand above Australia/the main continent with Tasmania below. I also recall that I received a score of (at least)95%(because I was "trying" to maintain good grades that year so all of my marks were above 92%, lol, otherwise I wouldn't have remembered, but that's not really important,I guess I just wanted to point out that I can definitely relate to the confusion anyways, I'm rambling here…