/fringe/ - Fringe

>>77933

WWA is pretty good in the way that he tells you the fundamentals of everything. Though most newer folk wont get what he's saying or even care. It's still good for planting seeds, for example the Kybalion is a key book for everyone. The rest of his stuff is good as well but only once you've had the experience or are at a level where you can.

Bardon is not easy to understand why it's important but his stuff fundamentally is good once you (again) are at the level to get it. Robert bruce is a good start for energy work and Montalk is alright again for theory.

Ultimately I figure it don't matter what you read as long as you're keeping yourself within the frequency. At least do the exercises if you are going to read something though. Other wise find a more comfortable learning format like lectures/talks/videos. Unless of course you like books and read them as a kid.

If we're going to be real, most books and especially occult books are either written by people who don't know what they're talking about or are poor of quality so it's difficult to recommend more. Though if I had to recommend something that gives quite a decent bit of perspective and exercises check out Kundalini Yoga by Sri Swami Sivananda. We just need things which keep the neophytes out of getting ungrounded and delusional. Things which allow them to learn their bodies and mind (consciousness as well). To understand there is nothing beyond them. Other than the study of nature (oneself) everything else is generally just a cultural or flavored covering of the same thing. So the books work well to get people started until they find their preferable cultural flavour of exercises.

I thought the montalk articles were very helpful as a beginner. The Atkinson books were great, but I would take off psychomancy and maybe mental influence because most of that is just fluff with about 2 pages of actual, practice-able advice.

I would maybe put Personal Power before the 2013SeriesLessons and I might add Magical Use of Thoughtforms to that list.

>>77933

I would add Astral Dynamics to the Robert Bruce section. It gave me a very straightforward and systematic approach to astral projection that was easy to adapt to my belief system. While I understand that many people learn in different ways, and such a discrete method for astral projection might not fit every person's learning style, it's step-by-step nature can lead to success for anyone; as long as they put forth a sufficient amount of effort. I believe that every neophyte should learn to astral project, and this book offers them the best chance at doing so.

I kinda hope that the Kybalion was written by the three initiates of Hermes and not Atkinson. Makes it seem more mystical.

Though a lot of people don't think so.

>>77933

I'm still reading through this fucking book list.

I skipped 7-9 I'm currently practicing IIH, just want some practice so I don't get bored with it.

I have 7-9 though, I'll get to them later.

1-7 at least are just text books, no practice.

>>78145

>science of breath

>psychomancy

>mental influence

>"textbooks" with "no practice"

>>78162

This.

Atkinson is garbage-tier.

Did you even read them? The arcane formulas are all practices. When someone is new they need to understand the whys before actually doing it. If I started by jumping right into practical stuff, I would not be able to suspend my doubts and wouldn't succeed.

I recommend:

-The secret of the Ages

-The law and the promise

>>78167

I wouldn't say he is garbage, I think he has good understanding of how things work just that his exercises aren't as effective as they could be.

That and I feel his writing style is dry and can't really keep his readers attention at points.

>>78162

>claims there are superior writings

>doesn't post them

ATKINSON HURT

>>78283

I really don't get the atkinson asshurt, I felt like I got a lot out of the kybalion and arcane teachings. He can rattle on a bit, but he's usually just trying to present the idea in multiple in multiple lights.

I gotta say though I am a little skeptical of his books under his Yogi pen names, him probably not being an actual yogi and all.

>>78092

👌

Only a plebeian from the galaxy doofus would discard "Science of Breath" and neglect learning how to breathe.

The Kybalion nails the forces of nature from a philosophic standpoint. Very good read to better understand what all laws all things abide to, integrated with with daily thought you'll come to know or learn by yourself at profound levels.

>Montalk

Good things.

>astral dynamics/Robert Bruce

Great stuff.

>initiation into hermetics

Good things but stern and outdated, thorough but lacking. Great if you like a scheduled man's life.

>>77933

You know what this is a solid list of books, but we should tailor it a little.

I recommend adding "Science of Miracles", as it's approach is curious disbelief, dealing with the main power of artists and also a very potent form of psychology to be utilized on self. Higher and lower selves.

I would also vouch for Uncle Chuckies Psionics book, and crazy as it may be, the gear and gadgets he plays with.

There's also a book I have in mind, it's about proper behaviour, being curt and sociable - most important what mindset to have to achieve, it's highly esoteric and positive even though it's writer might not have intended or known. [Spoiler] it's a how to meet women book [/spoiler]

Lastly, there are documentaries of history on YouTube regarding ancient history, religion & monuments that should be viewed as they can't be read.

Among them, "The Revelations Of the Pyramids", and from a mathematical approach on the coordinates of megalithic ancient structures, "Carl Munck - The Code".

>>78350

>11. The Universal Master Key

>Reader beware if you deal with people a lot. Still an excellent book.

What do you mean by this?

>>78351

In part, if a person seeks to live in a more beneficent manner, there are those who they may come across who will attempt to sink them to the lowest common denominator. It gives a good feeling of the elements and how Bardon felt about them to read the Universal Master Key.

I know I have suggested the kybalion to many, but how the fuck do you expect the average person nowadays to get anything but confusion from it?

Let's make sure they have a proper dictionary first, and instruct them to read the definition of every single word that is in capital letters. Further, to read the definitions of every word in any sentence that is confusing to them.

To prop up my argument here, Language is as unknowable as the all.

Watkinson and Montalk are meme garbage tier.

Why don't you WWA and Montalk's butthurts don't just recommend some other material instead of just calling it shit?

>>78350

Thank you!

Have any supplemental reading?

>>78315

>There's also a book I have in mind, it's about proper behaviour, being curt and sociable - most important what mindset to have to achieve, it's highly esoteric and positive even though it's writer might not have intended or known. [Spoiler] it's a how to meet women book [/spoiler]

Okay, y'got me. I'll bite. What's the book in question?

beelzebub's tales to his grandson

>>78902

>>78904

well, what do you two like to read then?

Bump, this is an important topic

I'm a neophyte of a couple months, so I have barely any practical experience (in relation to these books, anyway), but so far I've read the first 7 Atkinson books in that list, a little bit of Initiation into Hermetics, a little bit of Robert Bruce's Mastering Astral Projection, and a little bit of Magical Use of Thought Forms.

The WWA books, other than Psychomancy, were very helpful, practical, and easy to understand. Psychomancy seemed to have little practical information that wasn't in his other books. It was short, though, and there were some new concepts.

Initiation into Hermetics seems kinda dense. I've read everything up to the practical bit, about the elements, and I get some of it, but there's so much brand new information I don't really understand about magnetic and electric fluid and how the elements relate to each other, etc. Maybe there's a book that explains it all a little more plainly that could go before it. Or maybe it's just me.

Mastering Astral Projection is quite a handy book. I haven't read Energy Work, but a friend has taught me a bunch about energy bodies already. I think a book directly about AP might be a good addition to the list for people who like practical things. The version of MAP in the Mega has a few pages missing, though.

I don't think I've read enough of Magical Use of Thoughtforms to give an opinion, but it seems like it'll be pretty good.

>>78315

>I would also vouch for Uncle Chuckies Psionics book, and crazy as it may be, the gear and gadgets he plays with.

AHAHA Uncle Chuckie has a lot of hilarious shit. It didn't help me that much since it kind of requires a lot of prerequisite skill, but it's absolutely great to wonder about all the possibilities that can happen with a high enough skill

>>78926

I think he's talking about the game, or some book regarding pick up artists, people who's only goal is to pick up girls. pretty retarded but yea it really breaks down social cues and other stuff really good. great for autists or anyone who wants to understand how socializing works

Can you recommend some good books on astrology and planetary symbolism?

>>82661

That's definitely intending to be positive though, didn't sound like what the tipp dude was talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wFm4rZbNhw

in response to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHkiZNT3cyE&feature=youtu.be

this is a good topic. talk about it.

>>77933

Is there a place where one can find all of them as pdf's?

Are there books for stages above neophytes?

t. newfig

>>82731

You fucking mongoloid read the goddamn board before asking stupid questions

>>82743

kek

>>77937

If Atkinson is so great why does he contradict himself so much? How in the fuck am I supposed to learn from that?

>>83705

How does he contradict himself?

>>83707

Bump for this

>>86958

>those James Joyce books

How are they greenpills?

>>78187

He's one of those writers that takes multiple pages to say something that could be summed up in one sentence. I hate him as a writer to be honest.

Arcana of Freemasonry by Albert Churchward

Signs & Symbols of Primordial Man by Albert Churchward

In terms of Churchward being 'correct' I do not know, although, I find his findings quite interest. Such as, the neophyte goes left foot first into the temple of the initiations. (That's just one thing I found interesting, many more)

Ego and Archetype by Edward F. Edinger( Analytical/ Jungian psychology, very good read for dreams highly valued personally)

Pistis Sophia 2nd edition, translated from German text, which is in turn translated fom Coptic. By G.R.S Mead

Transcendental Magic It's Doctrine and Ritual by Eliphas Levi (It may not be entirely correct, A.E Waite is there with notes to guide though… partially)

The Christian Archetype, By Edward. F Edinger

The Hermetic Tradition by Julius Evola

Most of the holy books in relation to Kabbalah, such as Zohar, Yetzirah, etc. (I have really as of yet to find a good translation)

Varieties of Religious Experience by William James

(Great book to go along with Perennial Philosophy by Aldous Huxley but thats already on there)

thats just a few ill think of more eventually

>>86960

This

>>77933

Working through the 2013 series. 2400 pages is a lot to chew through

How many of you have actually read through it all?

Also, why does smileberg say 2013 series is superior to the 2014 one?

The Kybalion is ludibrium.

-The Kybalion

The Cabala Mineralis tbh fam.

not that of the vulgar is code for mental alchemy

>levity.com/alchemy/cab_min1.html

also, PSIPOG might have been a bunch of fruity namefaggots, but they did flesh out an almost 'assembly-level' model for energetic phenomena

>>88512

Formatting. Look at how much of the text is fucked up in 2014 as opposed to the 2013 edition.

>>86958

Question about The Secret Doctrine, is it true that book was connected with first wave feminist spirituality?

Im looking for something with a lot of practical advise, what would you recommend?

Downloaded a torrent pack of Hermeticism books. Started Intro to Hermeticism by Franz Bardon but I'm working through theory slowly to ensure I have a good basis of understanding and intent(on part 9 Man and the body). There's another book about the white magicians deities. Popular media has given me a respectable caution to making pacts with deities. How far can I develop on my own?

>>78897

>Let's make sure they have a proper dictionary first, and instruct them to read the definition of every single word that is in capital letters.

Excellent advice. I noticed this halfway through theory

>>97080

>How far can I develop on my own?

You will only develop on your own. So only as far as you have the discipline to maintain. Inertia keeps most from making progress.

>>97084

I'm confused as to why one would want to make a pact with a other dimensional being then

>>97086

power without work I suppose, those people are just consumed with ego

>>78350

Are you really a magus? Any miracles you'd grace me with telling about?

>>97086

If you are referring to Bardon's second book, it is only intended as a side path once you have become proficient enough with IIH. Of course once you have progressed through IIH you may not even have the desire or need for PME. Also, by that point your views of them being "other dimensional beings" and the notion of "pacts" may change as well.

>>88525

PSIPOG? I'm interested. Where do I find it, is it in one of the libraries? What's the full title?

bump

>>97237

I have the entire psipog archive on an external hdd, can upload it somewhere if its not available

there are many paths but any book on good breathing and energy work is a must have

bump

>>98101

If I remember correctly that site's creator wrote a farewell post saying that after wasting 10 years on the stuff he finally gave up and concluded that macro psi is not possible.

He's a mobile game developer now.

>>78315

>"Carl Munck - The Code"

2 hours in my mind is thoroughly blown. I want a proper skeptic to talk me out of this, because I can't find any explanation other than this fucker is right, and the implications are… mind blowing. I could rationalize my way out of it 10, 20 minutes in, but it's way too much coincidence.

>mfw everything's in feet

Meep

>>98742

Is it crazier than this?

Ring Of Power: Empire of the City by Amenstop Productions

Beep

The only author I'd keep on the list is Bardon, and even his magic primarily is old Aeon, quickly losing power.

Although he's not a very good magician and the book is full of errors, Liber Null is a decent intro for absolute beginners.

SSOTBME by Ramsey Dukes is much better, but a bit more advanced.

And Kenneth Grant's Typhonian Trilogies are the most powerful works on Western magic in print, but his insanity and erudition make them only useful to advanced practitioners.

>>102815

So, Bardon's magic is too old and losing effectivenes, and you recommend this other shit based on fucking pre-dinasty African magic as the most powerful thing ever (but only if you are advanced).

You're full of it.

Someone at work was just shilling Urantia to me and a coworker. I prentended to be an unsuspecting mundane.

What is /fringe/'s take on that book?

>>102837

The Kybalion is a master key, it helps you understand everything else you read.

Most of your beef with the reading list is MUH HISTORY and MUH SOURCES. While occult history is a valid subject and paying homage to the original sources is fine and dandy, the texts in the reading list are the condensation of knowledge taken from a great many sources. They are you say "distilled" and that's the point. It saves you shitloads of time and teaches you what you need to know, without spending years or lifetimes on some text whose mysteries most people would never penetrate.

/fringe/ is about training people to be magicians not occult historians.

You should make a second reading list for occult historians if you want such a list.

Also all those books are talked about on the board and in the libraries anyways.

Making the required reading list bigger by adding all that other material you want in is not a good idea. All that stuff is optional.

No reason we can't make more reading lists and have them. Just create your own list and it can be added to the board page as "Anon's Occult History Reading List" or something.

BTW I've read every single book you mention and know every author you've referenced.

I wonder what you think of Light on the Path.

Besides Plato, Buddha, and Christ are known to all and don't need to be recommended.

>Also, its not a book, but if you are into this sort of thing having a tarot deck is a real good resource for /fringe/ knowledge.

So is tea leaves, bones, bird sightings, and what ever else methods you want for divination. Tarot is only special in that it has a fairly wide range of archetypes linked to each card.

>>102823

I'm very full of it indeed. I've never toiled at an honest day's work, studied for a test, been considerate of others needs or feelings, kept my word, or had much of a commitment to telling the truth.

Yet everything I have ever wanted has manifested in my life, usually within a few months of my deciding I want it. An attractive, intelligent wife from a well-off family. A well-paying job that provides substantial political power and very little work. A healthy, well-behaved child. An honors degree. Good health. And so on.

I'm the laziest, most selfish bastard most people have ever come across, yet people think I'm hard-working, caring, generous, gentle, kind. I'm loved and showered with gifts wherever I go. And I do nothing for it but will for it to be so.

I'm mostly self-taught, and I mastered the art of magick many years before coming across Grant's work. But I know a fellow master when I see one. His books are works of occult magick in themselves, which is why they appear mundane or nonsensical to the uninitiated. They are only of use to one who is ready to cross the Abyss.

I see little point in reading or following anyone who has not made the crossing, as they are just the blind leading the blind.

Why am I here? Why do I troll the sewers of the internet imparting my wisdom? Because I am obligated to do so. That is the price I must pay for the power I have taken for myself. I want every single person on this planet to wake up and realize their will as I have, for their strength is my strength.

Go ahead and think I'm lying, or crazy, just read The Magical Revival with an open mind. Take your time, don't move on to the next paragraph until you understand the one you've just read. You can meet Brahman face to face, the books are a map.

>>102869

I was just saying your dismisal of Bardon on grounds of it being "last aeon" makes no sense because Grant's work is based on older principles.

>>102850

>So is tea leaves, bones, bird sightings, and what ever else methods you want for divination. Tarot is only special in that it has a fairly wide range of archetypes linked to each card.

Once again you automatically project and think that I mean have Tarot cards exclusively for means of divination. Yes sure, tea leaves and bones are just as good but they do not compare as a resource for occult knowledge. They are interesting to look at and all have a huge amount of symbolism which is spread universally over western esotericism. You do not need to practice divination with them you can just meditate upon what the cards are expressing or examine them in an analytical manner to see the connections lurking within Mythology, Religion, and the Occult. You may be quite content and comfortable to just sit and look at a pile of bones but Tarot is more than mere divinatory tool they are art themselves. To summarise and dismiss tarot so easily and say you might as well just get some tea leaves illustrates how little you have studied it yourself before making such a denying opinion.

>>102876

>implying I didn't just say they are special because of the archetypes bound up in each card

When I want to divine things I just "hold the thought" and let the answer be spoken to me through all reality btw. It comes through any medium, be it random other shitposters, ethereal voices, synchronicities, or symbolism meaningful to me. I'm a stronk indydynt magi who don't need no tarot.

I can't even afford a tarot card deck also I rarely have any money and don't prioritize money enough to make the sacrifices to get it when I know that if I ever make any money and it's discovered it'll be just taken away from me, so it's largely futile unless I can obtain it in secret without people knowing and I really just don't want to get a tarot card deck as I prefer my current methods of divination and meditation on deities/archetypes heh

>>102875

Anon I'm hella busy and can't even read your post right now (later I will) but if you want additions made to the reading list please create a second list of recommended books, post your list in here, and I'll copypaste it in.

>>102869

The Magickal Revival is mostly armchair material: history. Amazing how one can claim it unlocks the mysteries of the universe when it's so full of, and nothing more than words.

Like Crowley's books, this is little more than ego stroking, quotes and a useless recollection of dates and events sprinkled with a lot of overengineered correspondences and obvious cultural decontextualization.

High brow magick, everyone. Useless, academic and out of touch. Perfect college material.

Get the fuck out of here.

>>100295

Shit. I'm not even 1 hour in and I'm literally feeling nauseous.

The world is fucked.

>>102825

>chicago

Has anyone here read David Hume? Why does Atkinson think that everything must respect the "law" of causation? Connections between events are purely mental and doesn't exist in nature.

"It appears that, in single instances of the operation of bodies, we never can, by our utmost scrutiny, discover any thing but one event following another, without being able to comprehend any force or power by which the cause operates, or any connexion between it and its supposed effect. The same difficulty occurs in contemplating the operations of mind on body- where we observe the motion of the latter to follow upon the volition of the former, but are not able to observe or conceive the tie which binds together the motion and volition, or the energy by which the mind produces this effect. The authority of the will over its own faculties and ideas is not a whit more comprehensible: So that, upon the whole, there appears not, throughout all nature, any one instance of connexion which is conceivable by us. All events seem entirely loose and separate. One event follows another; but we never can observe any tie between them. They seemed conjoined, but never connected. And as we can have no idea of any thing which never appeared to our outward sense or inward sentiment, the necessary conclusion seems to be that we have no idea of connexion or force at all, and that these words are absolutely without meaning, when employed either in philosophical reasonings or common life." David Hume, 1737

I am just asking.

>>106193

That may have some validity.

Sounds like some Immanuel Kant shite.

Any good guides on hand gesture magick?

>>106544

>you only expect the sun to rise tomorrow because it has done so every other day … Hume points out the naievete in this manner of thinking

No that is maturity in thinking. It is NAIVE to expect the sun to burst into a bowl of tulips. Don't make it what it isn't for an indirect benefit (questioning the nature of things to get others to be more flexible in their world view).

Some in their uncertainty allow their imagination to make the "boogy men" of the dark much more than they are. That there is no "solid refutation" just goes to show the cowardice prevalent in humanity, that they'd allow word games to make their legs shake. I'm sure there are MANY refutations, yet they aren't recognized by others so they aren't "solid". The philosophy itself isn't fucking solid. It's a mist, trying to seep through the cracks. It leverages against the common mania with microscopic information, details, stimuli.

"Why expect the sun to rise tomorrow?" is just a gateway to questioning common patterns in your life via Law of Correspondence. It's an alchemical question for what we take for granted in the rest of our life. It's basically poetry, not philosophy. Well, we can think of all non-practical philosophy as poetry.

The game won't give the means to destroy it. If you play philosophy, all you'll ever get is philosophy, but the concept of philosophy itself is already a limiting perception. Its bias is purposeful, of course, yet I don't give a shit. Suck my cock.

The knowledge of astronomy is a compounding cause (CAN WE REALLY KNOWWWW IIIITTTTTTT???) for expecting the sun to rise tomorrow.

This Hume fellow was attempting to make uncertainty a cultural force and succeeded, so kudos to Hime. I'm sure there was an oppressing atmosphere of rigidity and certainty in his time. Be self-aware about this being totally relative to the necessity of the circumstances however. Each specific thing about it isn't very important, but rather its total impact. The oppressed Scotland, under the British Sun, wishes for tulips.

Questioning cause and effect… I'm sure this was incredibly relevant to his situation and those of his countrymen. "How can we prosper and bloom?" "Is the British Sun really going to rise tomorrow?" "Could we fight a better fight, with a true measure of things?"

~

>>106591

And this really is about cowardice and courage. Why else did this artist have to draw from the smallest, and expand on it with the will of the imagination, into something great and moving?

Because the courage to think, act, and be different and independent was small within the Scottish hearts. The vision for a greater tomorrow was just too marginalized to approach the real problems of the time directly.

The game they didn't want to play was British Rule, and so they played a different game.

bumper

>>108277 (noice)

Jump

Up

>>110866

Stop bumping threads with that. It was just a joke in a chat, after telling a childhood story…it wasn't anything serious. You guys aren't friends and it was a meaningless conversation, that she doesn't remember having. She isn't friends with you, doesn't remember you. It's unnerving how random internet anons.. that a person continually keeps trying to get away from.. won't leave a person alone. You posting that stuff is insulting. You and others, repeatedly get asked to stop, to go away and you don't. The messages have been loud and clear. Now fuck off! Kthnx bye! [ - ] adding "up" to the word filter.

>>110882

Down ;)

Look at me, can't manage muh loosh sploosh

>>110882

Ur just mad I got dubs. Up you go now

>>111656

>>110891

[ - ]

>>111671

>>111767

I've always wondered the same, but atkinson has gotten plenty of flak for only pretending to be a yogi.

Uhp

bump

>>77933

I never noticed OP was a New Thought follower, I ended up stumbling between the schools to land on this one. Is that the recomended reading order? I was starting with Personal Power

>>111782

Is purple pill stuff actually good or just memes?

>>102837

Imho the Tao de Ching should be on this list as well.

The Trivium is so you don't go in circles playing low fucking grammar, logic and rhetorical games and exercises. It makes you more EFFICIENT. The basics. No matter your experience, this is the explicit HARDWARE that your conversations and thinking rests on. If you do something that seems to contradict these yet works, it's an engineering feat or you are relying on the ignorance/incompetence of others, rather than a programming error or the failings of grammar/logic/rhetoric to hold itself to a higher standard.

The /pol/lack reading rainbow leads to the magical land of Oz. If you want to understand history and current events, and be capable of discussions that – once again – don't go in circles, you should be reading these. You don't have to disagree or agree with everything someone says if you are uncertain, and you should remember things as they are written and try not to conceptually nor explicitly distort what an author says. Stay in the process, don't quit reading because "I know enough". You shouldn't finish this book list at the end of your life. 2-3 years is enough to read ~70 books.

you faggili nigerians need a sense of GRAVITY. Let the words weight on you very unlike air or even rain, but instead pebbles. By the great stones of literary greats, may you HOIST diligently, for strength is in the overcoming of resistance rather than avoidance or apathy of such. No man who finds words quite free of gravity is unlike an animal or child, for he has abandoned his reason but for the generation of ink in which to blot the view of any individual with greater mental competence. Toy words serve no man, but children and animals.

>>122631

I'm using Gwynne's Grammar, Introduction to Logic by Copi, and Farnsworth's Classical English Rhetoric.

Even if it's not as good, I wouldn't know… and it's free from the library. I'll find all the weak points when I read a level 2 sort of book anywho.

>>122620

I should note that adding random weight to words is retarded. The scales, THE SCALES! Learn how others weight words and balance them on THE SCALES!

INFINITE SCALE WORKS

>>122656

>Learn how others weight words and balance them on THE SCALES!

Solid foundation, now build on it so that others may use it.

Give me ten words that you have assigned a high weight to based on observed use.

Thank you for your time and service.

>>122620

Bah, the true wizard plays the piano by ear.

>>77933

TBH the entire reading list is worthless. Who cares how many DIY books are on your shelf if you've never built anything?

Experience is the best teacher. Identify your tools, identify what material you have available to work with, identify your goal, plot a course from A to B using the resources at your disposal.

>>122791

To clarify, I've only read the Key Concepts page on Montalk and nothing else from the reading list.

If I had to tell someone one thing to read that's worth reading, it'd be Bluefluke's psychonaut field manual.

>>122791

Depends, talent helps.

>>122795

Well yeah, if you're a natural learner then it comes quicker, but everyone is talented at something. The trick is to learn how to translate anything into something you already understand.

>>122799

Depends, there's perception of things, then there's the ability to judge things. Understanding is familiar with both.

>>122803

I think we're approaching this from similar angles. My lens has been "knowledge is not understanding, understanding is not knowledge".

Each compliments the other.

>>122806

We do have the same mindset then, except sometimes they do not compliment each other and in fact can conflict or destroy one another.

>>122810

Yep. The one truth I've found is that dichotomies can paralyze thought and action.

>>122811

You're better off swimming against such a current.

>>86958

>Crowley

>Jew Magick

those books might not be safe to follow

>>123518

Why? Who cares?

>>123530

I don't want to give you my energy kike

The Cubic Stone

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjjx63uho89p0pg/the%20cubic%20stone.pdf?dl=0

Bump for neophytes

>>102850

If you don't know your history, then you're doomed to make the same mistakes. Fuck me, mate. You really didn't keep that axiom in mind before making your stupid fucking post? You've got to be not only the dumbest fuck I've had the displeasure of responding to, but also a faggy charlatan.

You're going to sit there and expect us to belive that not knowing about the relationship between Crowley and Regardie isn't intrical to a Magician's growth? Oh no, let's just learn the LBRP without knowing what any of it means or without learning the history behind it. Nope, none of that matters. Many of you here need to go read Sane Occultist by Dion Fortune.

>>133745

And you need to get a gripe on your ego. I'll go read Sane Occultist in the meanwhile. Thanks for the recommendation.