No.8364[Last 50 Posts]
Greetings, this is Odin.
I've come to continue with the works of /fringe/, helping maintain discussions in order and within this board's rules.
RemindersIrrelevant discussions such as those related to atheism or skepticism should take place in other boards such as
>>>/x/, since we have to remind that
>all proper magical work is by its nature based upon a strong foundation of faith/belief and proper channelling, not just the arts of "wizardry" but life in general works like this.Edit: It's ok on /fringe/ as long as it's either a reply to an already existing thread or there isn't more than one thread already in existence solely for the purpose of expressing scepticism. Making more sceptic threads when there's already one is a violation of Rule #2 which is "
2. Create threads on topic and if a thread for a topic already exists post in that one unless it has reached the bump limit."
>Discussions about anons personal lives are to be taken to >>>/r9k/ or >>>/soc/. This board is about Wizardry, Consciousness and philosophical aspects related to them.Edit: This doesn't matter if it happens in a thread just don't create threads for this purpose alone as they'd be off-topic.
>"Neophytes" and mundanes should stick to the stickied Questions thread ( >>73 ) and the Resources Thread ( >>1 ) for grasping any basic information related to the aforementioned topics.At the very least refrain from making threads if you don't have solid information to present and some level of confidence in what you're sharing. Just post in other threads that already exist and if there is no thread on a topic you want to discuss then research that topic, learn about it, and make a thread for it or suggest someone make the thread by requesting it in the questions thread or another thread JUST DON'T CREATE A NEW THREAD.
>There will be less tolerance of troll posts.Those of you who abused Smiley's tolerance for your shenanigans will look back to the old days and wish you could shitpost and get away with it as easily before.
>Scepticism and the questioning of the existence of such practices is tolerated but not welcome. This is a board focused on actually learning and doing magick.Nobody is obligated to prove anything to anyone who hasn't proven themselves first but if someone wants to do some "proving" of their own accord they may do so. If you are an initiate and want others to prove themselves to you then you have earned that right but fedoras have done nothing and offer nothing to deserve it. Constant challenging of others to prove things for you when you don't even study or know the basics of occultism is annoying and counterproductive.
If occultism upsets or frustrates you too much and moves you to hostility against its practitioners this board is not for you as we want people that can keep calm and work out a solution to their problems and ask for help if needed but not those who give up (or don't even try to begin with) and then try to drag everyone else down saying it can't be done, it's not possible, etc. trying to dash everyone's dreams. We are dreamers and hopefully doers; not doubters and do naughters. /fringe/ believes in the possibility of ascent for all who apply themselves to the arcane teachings and if you do not think it possible then be gone from our sanctum!
We are essentially a study group researching the occult and finding ways to develop our consciousness, self-control, mastery of being, etc. and we welcome experiments which could succeed or fail but hate the manner in which fedoras discourage investigation, induce shame, spread unnecessary doubt, etc. all of which they tend to do whether the experiment was a success (they'll call it a hoax) or not (then they will simply mock and say magick is not real). The study and practise of the occult should be fun, non-dogmatic, and
pragmatic.Specifically,
prag·ma·tism : an American movement in philosophy founded by C. S. Peirce and William James and marked by the doctrines that the meaning of conceptions is to be sought in their practical bearings, that the function of thought is to guide action, and that truth is preeminently to be tested by the practical consequences of beliefSee also,
"Doubt, like belief, requires justification."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragmatismYour doubts might be sufficient enough for you and a few gullible mundanes to take seriously but for many of us more realized in the magical arts they appear silly and unfounded and usually amount to little more than "trust me I've never done it, magick is not real".
If you've made up your mind already that we can't improve our minds and bodies and achieve our spiritual goals, that we can't in short engage fruitfully in the practises of magick, and you faith in your fedora is so strong you refuse to investigate for yourself - read texts - test the limits of your reality - strive for higher consciousness. Then just leave. If you're sincerely open to the possibilities engendered in the practise and study of the occult and are self-motivated to pursue those possibilities then you are welcome here. We might not force you to leave but we are not obligated to tolerate you, welcome you, or do anything for one who does nothing for himself.
It would really help you to understand and adopt the mindset of an occultist when posting here and to just split your personality and keep your fedora persona to
>>>/x/ and other repositories of such shitposting and to think and act like a wizard while here. Consider your mind as a laboratory to run thought experiments on – philosophers in search of the truth have been doing it for ages; rather than cling stubbornly to doubts they know how to postulate and to build upon their axioms.
For those of you that belong, I hope you enjoy what /fringe/ has to offer, find what you seek, and consider /fringe/ a good medium to share your stories, experiences, observations, and achievements in the occult.
If you have any questions, reply to this thread.
Post last edited at 2014-11-05 16:33:11
No.8370
I greet you. Are you the fellow who created /asatru/?
No.8371
Hello. I hope you're a cool wizard and I hope you can teach us abecedarians cool stuff. ;)
No.8372
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Y'all niggas need to be reading
https://8chan.co/fringe/rules.html if you haven't already.
I should add a posting guidelines section underneath the rules blurb to set more clearly my expectations of the community.
>tfw 4 new bans already>tfw one of the bans was for me>tfw I only ever made 2 short bans in my whole history of moderating /fringe/ and yet that's enough for the fedoras to whine and portray me as le brutal dictator when really I'm a benevolent one>tfw the shitposters free reign over the board is going to be over now>tfw even just one of the new bans made amounts to a total number of hours (days in fact) that surpasses the combined length of every ban I've ever given out combined) No.8375
>>8370No, I'm not the creator of /asatru/, even though Norse/Germanic culture has always been my favourite and I enjoy that board quite a bit.
>>8371Thanks. I will be doing similar stuff
No.8376
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>>8371>abecedariansAbecedarians were a 16th-century German sect of Anabaptists who affected an absolute disdain for all human knowledge, contending that God would enlighten his elect from within themselves, giving them knowledge of necessary truths by visions and ecstasies, with which human learning would interfere.
Lol you guys by definition only accept knowledge from God not humans.
Unless maybe you stray from the actual teachings of the Abecedarians and account for ideas like god speaking through others.…or you go by these definitions given in the dictionary and aren't referring to the sect. No.8377
>>8375Holy shit you managed to get a name to appear before your ## Board Volunteer thing.
No.8378
>>8377Also, dubs.
(USER WAS BANNED 77 SECONDS FOR THIS POST) No.8379
>>8376I consider every single being to be part of a "god" like spirit, so yer. Man and "god" are the same in my book.
>>8377Cursed be thy dubs.
No.8380
>>8376What? I just wanted to use a cool word
No.8385
Welcome, nice to see some semblance of order coming back.
No.8386
Are you a Germanic furry?
No.8387
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No.8396
>>8379>man and god the same>implying they aren't different in degreeRegards, Kybalion Frogs.
No.8523
Why did you use quotation marks on neophytes?
I'm really curious, no trolling intended
No.8524
No.8526
>>8523Hm, you put attention to details. I like that.
The reason why I used quotation marks there is because I believe the notion of neophyte, novice, rookie, etc. to be entirely partial.
I've seen and heard of methods in altered states of consciousness and can inmediately transfer a ridiculous amount of knowledge towards individuals, even ideas that cannot be learned nor grasped by books themselves.
With a proper method, I believe a person deemed as 'rookie' may end up transferring enough knowledge and experience to make everyone else, even towards those who see themselves 'masters' as rookies themselves. And this may occur both consciously willingly by the rookie or "sub-consciously" willingly.
I don't believe in neither rookies nor masters.
Here's an IRL example:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/australian-man-wakes-up-from-coma-can-speak-mandarin-170038364.html No.8573
>>8526I think these are invalid grounds for rejection of the fedora/mundane/neophyte/initiate/master rankings system.
No.8601
>>8573Care to explain why?
No.8602
>>8601Rankings should reflect conscious mastery over a subject and not subconscious potential.
Realization matters, everyone theoretically has infinite potential; not everyone realizes that potential fully.
No.8620
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>>8364based Odin I'm much confused by the Hávamál when it describes the Runes and their properties in order.
like:
A fifth I know: when I see, by foes shot,
speeding a shaft through the host,
flies it never so strongly I still can stay it,
if I get but a glimpse of its flight.
How is this talking about Raidō which is most associated with journeys?
No.8626
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>>8602Sometimes subconscious potential can reach the conscious strongly enough to make realization automatic. Maybe it is the shape of the
matrix itself that allows so little cases, however it can be modified.
>>8620Unfortunately Warder, I've yet to see Mimir in order to learn enough about Runes.
However, I've found this, hopefully helps you on your journey.
>Raidho is the rune of ordered movement of energies in time and space as it pertains to human awareness. It is the rune of leading by example and of actions that speak louder than words. >Though ANSUZ may tell the stories, Raidho lives the stories. It represents our deepest personal life journey and the ultimate failures of language to communicate our experience to others. Something to notice about Raidho is the habitual way in which our minds concoct story and identity.http://runesecrets.com/rune-meanings/raidho No.8650
>>8626>Sometimes subconscious potential can reach the conscious strongly enough to make realization automatic.Until that happens there rank should not change.
No.8673
>>8364After a linguistic analysis, it's pretty fucking obvious you're smiley. If this fools anyone, they fucking deserve it.
No.8683
>>8650There are no untils, man. Time is non-existant and non-linear. Its happening and not happening at the same time.
>>8673Looks like you're gonna have to sharpen those analytical skills.
Post last edited at 2014-11-08 04:38:20
No.8685
>>8673How did you perform this linguistics analysis you did?
No.8686
>>8683>time>no-existence>non-linearTime is both linear and non-linear. In third density it's linear, in higher densities it's non-linear.
Your argument is silly. If we take the writings of the Cassiopaeans seriously, as well as that of several other philosophies, EVERYONE achieves godhead eventually.
Yet we're not there – so lets not call ourselves gods.
Ranks are relative, our experience is relative, we are in a relative state; so lets not throw out the relative in favour of the absolute only.
"The half-wise, recognizing the comparative unreality of the Universe, imagine that they may defy its Laws — such are vain and presumptuous fools, and they are broken against the rocks and torn asunder by the elements by reason of their folly. The truly wise, knowing the nature of the Universe, use Law against laws; the higher against the lower; and by the Art of Alchemy transmute that which is undesirable into that which is worthy, and thus triumph. Mastery consists not in abnormal dreams, visions and fantastic imaginings or living, but in using the higher forces against the lower — escaping the pains of the lower planes by vibrating on the higher. Transmutation, not presumptuous denial, is the weapon of the Master." — The Kybalion.http://www.kybalion.org/kybalion.php?chapter=VI No.8687
"Remember the Divine Paradox, that while the Universe IS NOT, still IT IS. Remember ever the Two Poles of Truth — the Absolute and the Relative. Beware of half-Truths."
( Also from Chapter VI )
No.8727
>>8364what's your opinion on wincest?
why is the purest love so forbidden?
No.8824
>>8727I need an answer on this too.
No.8835
>>8727>>8824
>Not sure if troll or seriousEither way, the answer is no. I consider incest to be as degenerate as pedos.
They should be roped when the day of the rope comes. SOON.
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No.8843
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No.8844
>>8835Incest is WHITE and REDPILLED. How can you reject it? We must make incest legal to keep the race pure and secure the 14 words. You just don't have any attractive sisters don't you?
No.8845
>>8844>tfw no redpilled sister to make pure white aryan babies with ;_; No.9027
>>8835Odin, don't tell me you are from hueland too
No.9039
>>9027No, but I live near Hueland. I don't speak portHUEguese though.
No.9558
Hey Odin, mixed baby from Hueland here. I also love me some blonde Norse wimmins.
I have 2 questions:
Which system of magick do you use, or which would you recommend for a neophyte?
How do I be attractive to these Norse hunnies?
No.9565
>>9558>mixedMixed as in half nigger?
>Which system of magick do you use, or which would you recommend for a neophyte?Chaos Magick is alright, but I recommend meditating heavily before doing "magick" since you first need to straighten your mind up before learning how to harness the potential of immaterial forces.
If you want to learn the basics of Alchemy, I recommend you read Franz Bardon's Introduction to Hermetics.
>How do I be attractive to these Norse hunnies?If I was a Nord, I'd have the answer to that question…
Post last edited at 2014-11-13 21:58:38
No.9585
>>9565mixed as in a whole bunch of shit, from european to jewish to nigger to native american. I don't know why genetics matters so much to everyone here, seeing as how spiritual qualities and a good family upbringing is what actually creates good human beings. HOWEVER I am infinitely more attracted to pale skinned women, so who knows if any of this shit matters.
Just saying hi at this point.
No.9586
>>9585What the fuck, are you me?
Is your dad a freemason too?
No.9589
>>9585Niggers can't into magic, sorry
No.9590
>>9585I welcome you here. Genetics do play a role, but it is the individual character that is the most important factor.
Even the African tribal people can be sincerely in touch with the supernatural. They aren't inferior, at least completely.
I'm somewhat different from you, though, in that I'm a mostly white American who is attracted to non-white women, although not exclusively. I have some native American blood, but it is mostly negligible. I'm almost completely Scottish.
You like what you like. So long as it is from love, there is nothing wrong with it. Don't rape anyone, and you won't be at fault. Rape is the greatest sin that humans can engage it.
Hell, I might be distantly Black without knowing it. I highly doubt it, but knowing how some white people label distant black blood as "Cherokee", it is possible. None from my father's side, but some from my mother's, perhaps. Who can know for sure?
No.9597
>>9586Shit I wish man. I'm thinking of initiating in a few years though. Currently 20.
>>9590I'm distantly Jewish, apparently my surname traces back to Jews escaping into Portugal and making up latin sounding names.
Totally agree on the rape, although it seems to be women's #1 fantasy…
No.9631
>>9585>race does not matter guys>only attracted to pure white women and not shitskin mongrel mystery meat like yourself No.9632
>>9590>>9585Good I have two new targets for practicing black magick on now that my previous targets are already dead from an unfortunate bout of sickness…
Impure race defilers have got to go!
No.9641
>>9632How the fuck do you track them?
No.9647
No.9648
>>9632If I die in this world, I will simply move on to the next. I have foreseen my possible death, and I'm not afraid. I have already acquired enough knowledge to move on.
Take into consideration that I've experienced a lot of shit. I don't doubt that you might be successful, but even if you will be, it won't matter. I don't care if I die or not.
And race defiler? I'm not going to have kids, at least not in this world. Why would I bring life into this wretched place? That would be the most selfish thing I could do.
All in all, I welcome the next world. Maybe there is still work to be done in this world, but knowing how I can't change humanity on the whole, I fucking doubt it. You can really only better yourself, in the end. And I'm pretty sure that I've already done that.
No.9667
>>9648If you don't want kids why burden yourself with a human woman then?
No.9669
>>9667I likely won't. I don't really trust human women.
Wish I could have a "spiritual spouse" or whatever, and I'm sure it is obtainable. Just have to discover the means (likely through entering either the astral or mental realm, both of which I've been to before, but can't willing go into at this moment).
No.9673
>>9669>doesn't have a spirit spouseI'm going to sleep with my ghost wife now.
No.9685
>>9647lil white boy is mad were takin his woman.
Its not our fault if they crave the superior black cock.
No.9701
>>9685Fact: No nigger has ever once had sexual contact with a Pleiadian woman. All the Nordic Alien ladies will never be interested in you. I bet you can't even find a single instance in all the alien literature of a negro having sexual relationships with one. You might get a few lowly third density race traitors but never will BBC conquer the astral.
No.9742
>>9590>Race mixing potato nigger No.9762
You guys all seriously confuse me.
Fringe knowledge stipulates that the gross matter body is practically irrelevant. We all should know that spiritual knowledge exists outside the body. So why does it matter if race-mixing occurs? I still don't understand what's so special about being white…
I'll admit, I am more attracted to white women, but if anything that is a side-effect of the brainwashing I've received from the media and advertisers as a citizen of the United States.
No.9767
>>9742I've never fucked (and I'm almost 31, so that is an accomplishment), so technically I've never race-mixed.
I'm also not completely Scottish (I'm 1/8th Norwegian as well), but whatever. The Celts are an admirable people, and I'm proud to be one.
No.9774
>>9762>Fringe knowledge stipulates that the gross matter body is practically irrelevant.No actually the complete opposite is the case and I've explained why in great detail before on old /fringe/ and on youtube comments sections. Essentially the body is a reflection of the soul and the law of correspondence is in effect. The body and its condition tells you a LOT about the person and the body is very spiritual. You should listen to the audiobooks on the esotericaudiobooks page on youtube of Manly P. Hall and read
The Secret Teachings of All Ages. A poor body tells you of defects, inferiority, underdevelopment, etc. of the person. Furthermore if you actually care to look through history and listen to what every single spiritual leader has been saying over the years they were hilariously racist. Theosophy conceived of races in a hierarchy and souls developing steadily to eventually attain a higher ranking by incarnating in a higher race. Hinduism has its caste system and all sorts of racist teachings. Buddhism has its lineages which they keep very pure, various esoteric orders are associated with certain bloodlines that are kept pure, and most Illuminati and alien theories in large part dedicate a lot of their conspiring as to how aliens and so on care about bloodlines. What's more is the Montalk site opposes hybridization of aliens and humans and I've asked montalk myself about race and he (despite being a mongrel himself) believes races should be kept separate and not mixed and that the racemixing agenda is trying to destroy differences and create strife (which it is). Alchemists were obsessed with perfecting both the body and the soul. Jews and Sikhs are very obviously racist religions where blood purity matters. Zoroastrians believe if their bloodlines are broken they can't reincarnate. Many New Age beliefs have racist elements, worship what are essentially Nordic Supermen, have eugenic beliefs, and care very much about the creation of an exalted and pure race. You will hardly find a single religion that considers the material body to not matter at all and which isn't racist in some way. Lobsang Rampa was anti-semitic and racist. New research into reincarnation is confirming how important it is that there is a matching body for you to reincarnate into, that you basically look the same from one life to the next, with very little change.
>We all should know that spiritual knowledge exists outside the body. So why does it matter if race-mixing occurs? I still don't understand what's so special about being white…Retarded or deceptive egalitarians like you have only been saying this for the past 60 or so years while for thousands of years purity mattered.
Also looking outside of yourself is generally not what mystics do, they turn inwards, and then they eventually come to non-duality where they don't think of things in terms of outside and inside but rather see spiritual reality as all-pervasive and non-local in nature. Spirit is not outside, it is not below; its center is found everywhere.
>I'll admit, I am more attracted to white women, but if anything that is a side-effect of the brainwashing I've received from the media and advertisers as a citizen of the United States.Bullshit, it's the unfortunate side-effect of Nordic white women being inherently the most beautiful, and it is not without reason that even before contact with Europeans all these mud races found white features the most attractive and would do stuff to make themselves more pale and so on. Also even during initial contact with Europeans, our race was recognized as extraordinarily beautiful and often identified with gods / angelic people / etc. that has visited them in a past age according to their legends aka they'd met Nordic Aliens before.
Do not defile the beauty of the white race with your mongrel genetics. Do not mix with any other races be they white or not at all. Racemixing is extremely antagonistic to spiritual concerns and runs contrary to our aims.
http://pastebin.com/tGMEhbhf No.9775
>>9767You're not very proud of your Celtic heritage if you think racemixing is fine. Do you want to spite your children with inferiority, force them to live out a heritageless mongrelized existence, just so you can perform some bestiality with another race?
No.9776
>>9775All that matters is that I love that woman, and important, that she loves me.
Of course racemixing is usually done out of degenerate means, but not always. The nature of the mind transcends the nature of race, and if I find a woman that loves me, then I will love her in return, with the act of sex or child-bearing neither being relevant nor necessary.
It is an interesting fact that black male/white female couples are more likely to disintegrate than pure white couples, but yet white male/black female couples are half as likely to divorce than pure couples.
You love what you love. So long as the love can last, and is sincere, there is nothing wrong with it. Mind over blood, is my mantra. I even hold that belief with those born from rape, to a limited extent.
No.9780
>>9776>loveI hate the word. It is the cruellest form of torture, a source of endless suffering. Love is a tempting illusion that will suck you dry and leave you spent. In my world so-called 'love' will be illegal and those found in use of it will be punished via excruciating death. Love hates everything.
No.9782
>>9781
Not that mongrel but does a marriage have to be between a man and a live woman or can she be dead? I ask because of reasons.
No.9783
>>9776>All that matters is that I love that woman, and important, that she loves me.Well fuck that selfish sentiment, you're going to need ROPE.
>Of course racemixing is usually done out of degenerate means, but not always.No it is
ALWAYS. You don't have to have sex and racemix with someone just because you love them just like you don't have to fuck your pet dog that you love very much.
>The nature of the mind transcends the nature of race, and if I find a woman that loves me, then I will love her in return, with the act of sex or child-bearing neither being relevant nor necessary.Well I will be killing every race traitor I see and get the opportunity to do so and you degenerate caste-mixing and racemixing filth will be exterminated. Race is not a negative and not "something to be transcended or wished away". You are working contrary to the principles of the creator (who differentiated himself into many diverse forms to manifest the whole universe) by trying to obliterate differences and destroy uniqueness. As occultists we strive to develop conscious egohood, true individuality, and not be merely unconscious slaves moved by unconscious forces. Reproduction and sex should also be completely eschewed if one is not doing it with the aims of procreation in mind, one should not trap new souls into this world because of one's selfish lust, bringing a new soul and crafting a new vessel for someone to come here is not a trivial matter.
What's more is an initiate has no problem helping others blossom so to speak, bringing out the best in others, and advancing them along the path with them. Someone like me; I can make any woman fall in love with me I'm not some beta piece of shit that's just going to fall for whatever woman returns any love my way.
>It is an interesting fact that black male/white female couples are more likely to disintegrate than pure white couples, but yet white male/black female couples are half as likely to divorce than pure couples.Doesn't fucking matter, I do not recognize the "marriages" of non-whites with whites, anymore than a man and horse can be "married" to each other or a man and man or some other abominable pairing.
>You love what you love. So long as the love can last, and is sincere, there is nothing wrong with it. Mind over blood, is my mantra. I even hold that belief with those born from rape, to a limited extent.We are emotional alchemists and we do not simply let ourselves be moved by unconscious forces we attain mastery over them. I support the idea of a traditional arrange marriage and am sick with the growing number of "love marriages" in India and around the world. We can cultivate love with a mate picked on rational grounds and not some random pang of lust or infatuation. Arranged marriages btw are far less likely to end disastrously than love marriages and not only that but they also are reported to be more harmonious, lasting, etc. that is they remain happily married together decades later.
You are dominated by a lowly animal nature and also do not understand properly the principles of mentalism. Espousing some kind of retarded dualism is not adhering to mentalist teachings which aren't "mind over blood" but "blood is mind, mind is blood".
You are a perverter of the arcane teachings and should be reformed or destroyed.
No.9784
>>9585I think you should research the magical and respectable art of voodoo
go to africa and buy a witch doctors charm for 10 grand and go get killed in liberia
trust me, youre doing everyone a favor
No.9786
>>9782It doesn't matter if she's dead what matters is the similarities and the patterns. As long as you're not diluting the unique bloodlines and the expression of diverse forms in the world, you're good. You may have some difficulties with reproducing with a dead woman, you might have to work with her to manifest a physical vessel for her, if you want children in this world.
Countless idiot egalitarians in recent decades have perverted the teachings of oneness by trying to do away with differences and eliminate them (that cognitive dissonance btw when they say we're all one and yet are so intent on eliminating differences, if they truly believed in oneness, they wouldn't see a need to destroy races). They serve entropy and are evil and yet have been fooled into thinking they serve the good.
Spiritual ascent is about individuating (like in
The Stellar Man), growing complexity (matter is not complex, spirit is extremely complex with a lot of choices and possibilities and so on), increasing diversity (many different possible experiences, lots of variety). Jungles are full of life and thousands of different species, deserts don't have much diversity of plant and animal life.
If the racemixers have there way the work of the Earth in creating multiple races will be undone, the genetics of many bloodlines will be corrupted, the natural order will be upturned, etc.
The first step in rising up in the scale of being is recognizing your place in it. Those who'd rather just do away with hierarchy and destroy the perfect harmony and rhythm of nature will not advance but only tend to drag others down to a lowest common denominator.
If one wants to marry a white woman and isn't white, they should work towards incarnating as a white man in a later life. Same thing for any other race, maybe you want an Asian wife, first become an Asian man. Same thing for castes, just do your best in this life, and maybe in the next you will be born into a higher caste.
No.9789
>>9786>to marry a dead woman you must first become a dead manUnderstood.
No.9792
>>9784No he should do Obeah. It's basically African Chaos Voodoo and most of its practitioners are mongrels. Obeah is extremely powerful – also he'd have a spiritual spouse and not a material one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_spouseThere's also Palo, Vodou, Santería, Rootwork, and Hoodoo.
If I was a nigger mongrel I'd do Obeah myself and probably live in the Caribbean.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ObeahThere have been some seriously bad-ass Obeah men in the past who've caused hurricanes and done other high level magick shit and they are known for doing curses too in a manner that bypasses them incurring any karmic debt.
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/awakening101/obeah.html No.9795
http://www.obeahrituals.com/questions.htmlCheck out this site and read it, it's great, and anyone with any African ancestry should really check out this path. In my opinion it is the most powerful of all of the different African magickal systems.
It is a very serious and well respected and feared art amongst Africans.
No.9797
>tfw just reading the article I got the picture from>read this line>"The Portuguese player ejected was ‘Pepe’, a Brazilian native."FeelsFrogsMan.
https://jamaicapoliticaleconomy.wordpress.com/2014/06/17/ No.9802
OBEAH (a dreaded power in the caribbean)In and around the world of the supernatural, the occult, and the underground dark-eddies of things spiritual, there are mystics, shamans, tribal elders, wizards, sorcerers, spellcasters, diviners, necromancers, witches, and all other types and kinds of controllers and purveyors of occult abilities, drawing strength and operating in other dimensions along the edges of the conventional plane. In the realm of all those practitioners the most powerful, the most dreaded, and the most feared is the Obeah!
> Obeah, as practiced in Trinidad and Jamaica and other parts of the Caribbean, takes the USE OF and KNOWLEDGE OF ancient occult powers orginally handed down over the centuries by word of mouth from the remnants of a once very powerful and celebrated SECRET religious Order emanating from a remote age that has long since been lost in the mist of time. Over the centuries most of the original tenents became watered down, with the less powerful versions of Obeah incorporating various modifications of occult spellcraft as once practiced mostly by tribal people who spoke Ashanti from West Africa. However, the most secretive, powerful and dreaded purveyors of present day Obeah comes undiluted from the old Order. Practitioners of same will sometimes use the less volatile aspects of their brethren, but usually operate well beyond the confines of any traditional witchcraft, sorcery, shamanism, voodoo, or tribal magic.
> It is a dying breed shrouded in secrecy, with the most powerful versions known and practiced only by a select few. Even fewer ever truly enter the ranks of Obeah and able to successfully wield its will and awesome scope unscathed. An Obeahman can use ANY system and fuel it with the power of Obeah without the danger of disrespect FOR the gods, but, depending on circumstances, not necessarily without repercussions FROM the gods, and especially so any untrained high level assult against the natural order of things. Obeah is potent, compelling and in the wrong hands, both deadly and dangerous. It's secret lies in its POWER. Even white light shields can and do weaken, collapse, or be rendered impotent, buckling under to another's stronger power when pitted against each other in tests of strength.http://2wapworld.com/web/w_posts.php?topic_id=2790924 No.9803
>yfw Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars Jedi character) is a reference to Obeah.
>A practitioner of Obeah is called an Obi-Man or Obi-Woman.
No.9804
>>9789I never said that. You don't have to be dead to marry a dead woman.
I hope you're still alive right now… I was just saying if you want some children you should work with her to get her a physical vessel.
>inb4 you're dead now and a ghost is posting on /fringe/>or worse, you're dead, and don't have to skill to come back and post on /fringe/ No.9805
>you will never be an African Obi-man
>you will never convince an individual of African descent on /fringe/ to become one
>you will never explore this rich and complex tradition for yourself
>you will never have a connection to the spirits of Obeah
>you will probably continue to study Obeah out of pure curiosity but you'll only ever be an Armchair Obi-Man (one who doesn't actually practice it)
No.9826
>>9804Not dead, was just kidding. I'll have to talk to her and see if she wants a body.
No.9844
>>9774>Zoroastrians believe if their bloodlines are broken they can't reincarnate.Reincarnation of the soul is a belief that many Asatruars also hold. As well as the part about the death of a bloodline stopping reincarnation.
http://www.odinsvolk.ca/O.V.A.%20-%20NNV.htm>According to Asatru tradition, a person could only be reincarnated back into their own family line - they remained part of their Hamingja. If the family line died out, and therefore the Hamingja came to an end, none of the souls could be reborn. They would either remain in Hel, or become ghosts.http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/hive/AftrLife.htm#X_SEVEN>Another factor revealing the complexity of postmortal processes is the indication that a living soul is apparently "encased" in several successive "layers" or "wrappings" of incarnative logic or "auras" between it and the body it inhabits. NDEers occasionally tell of having felt that "shells," "films" or "layers" of their outer beings were stripped from them one by one on their mystical journey, their essential core always remaining the same. Oriental mystics report essentially the same experience in some of their meditative states. (Some cultures also speak of each person having multiple "souls.") No.9848
>>9783For the first statement, I'm not sure if that is selfish, and selfishness alone isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I agree with you on the second statement.
Race isn't either positive or negative. It just is. Racemixing has happened since the beginning of man, and will continue to. I personally don't care, but there is nothing that I can do about it either way, so as such I don't try to either encourage it or stop it.
The universe had no beginning and has no end, so as such there was no need for a "creator" to bring it about. I'm not an atheist at all, but I'm pretty sure that the powers that be aren't what we think they are. Still, you are correct when you say that we shouldn't be unconscious slaves moved by unconscious forces. We have to be aware, and get in control. I was once lost, and that was a painful time for me.
No comment on the fourth statement.
I agree with you in that we can't let emotions control us; we have to control our emotions. Love on rational grounds is usually stable; love based on whims and fancies almost never are.
Genetics do play a huge role in what kind of mind you have, but they aren't the sole defining factor. I'm very much unlike either of my parents when it comes to my mind, but nonetheless I am their kid. The development of the mind is rooted by blood, but grows from wisdom and experience.
All in all, I know that I am flawed, but everyone starts off that way. It isn't possible to get along with everyone completely; look into the heart of someone deep enough and you'll find someone who you'll at least mildly dislike.
No.9867
>>9774>>9762
>Fringe knowledge stipulates that the gross matter body is practically irrelevant.It certainly isn't, for the body is the vessel of our True Will, regardless of how lower its physical and mental densities are. A harmonious vessel leads to a more prosperous spiritual outcome.
>Retarded or deceptive egalitarians like you have only been saying this for the past 60 or so years while for thousands of years purity mattered.I agree with this, in accordance to the fact we chose to incarnate here, I believe every human being should be wise enough to stay within the confines of their ethno-cultural groups.
We chose to be ourselves, different to each other for a reason.
The future is better off without race mixing, as this behavior warps the proper, harmonious development of both individuals and groups alike, without mentioning birth defects and related diseases to it.
This isnt only a matter of beauty, its also of spirit.
>>9792Hm, this looks interesting. I do know for a fact that Brazilians practice Santeria, Hoodoo and Macumba. Hell, even white people have macumba cults. Seriously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macumba No.9868
>>9848>Racemixing has happened since the beginning of manIncorrect, since we'd have very different genetic groups, features and cultures from other races, which have developed for thousands of years in different habitats.
>Genetics do play a huge role in what kind of mind you have, but they aren't the sole defining factor.It is about harmonious development. see above.
No.9871
>>9848>For the first statement, I'm not sure if that is selfish, and selfishness alone isn't necessarily a bad thing.In this case it's a very bad thing as you're polluting the genepool and destroying a homogenous society just to satisfy your own desires with no consideration for the destruction you are inflicting upon pure bloodlines.
>Race isn't either positive or negative. It just is.That's like saying biodiversity isn't positive or negative; it just is. To that sentiment I say fuck you, we need to preserve Earth's biodiversity, for myriad reasons including beauty, health, stability, etc. not wanting to live in some shitty post-apocalyptic world like Zion in The Matrix where pretty much all non-human life is eradicated.
>Racemixing has happened since the beginning of man, and will continue to.Just like bestiality, rape, drug-use, and many other vices and yet we don't throw up our hands and say we're not going to do anything about it because it'll always keep happenings. Just like we don't stop pruning our trees of diseased branches if we want our orchard to stay healthy and productive.
>I personally don't care, but there is nothing that I can do about it either way, so as such I don't try to either encourage it or stop it.Just shows how vile and impure mongrels are from their mindset to their body.
>The universe had no beginning and has no end, so as such there was no need for a "creator" to bring it about.The universe is NOT the totality of existence and is a created thing which rests upon an uncreated foundation.
>I'm not an atheist at all, but I'm pretty sure that the powers that be aren't what we think they are.It's not the
"powers that be" which I'm talking about, the elite could be utterly eliminated, and you'd still be dominated by an animal nature and controlled by the "central computer" so to speak that is the demiurge. Read
The Stellar Man.
>Still, you are correct when you say that we shouldn't be unconscious slaves moved by unconscious forces. We have to be aware, and get in control. I was once lost, and that was a painful time for me.Self-aware and self-control. Mindfulness. Most men are automatons and that's the reason that when they die everything is erased because they never really developed their consciousness, they were moved by instinct. Try writing with your other hand for once and see how well you can do it, a lot you is just muscle memory and so on.
>All in all, I know that I am flawed, but everyone starts off that way. It isn't possible to get along with everyone completely; look into the heart of someone deep enough and you'll find someone who you'll at least mildly dislike.
>not just making a tulpa that's the perfect compliment to you No.9872
>tfw still waiting for my occult folder to download to this computer and can't quote that "your body is your temple" stuff out of The Secret Teachings of All Ages.
No.9873
>>9868When racemixing did happen it was typically rape or sexual slavery and the mongrels were always put to death or made into eunuchs and so on.
Also everyone used to always marry their cousins and in many parts of the world this still continues so not only was there no racemixing but everyone keeps their specific lineages very pure.
No.9874
Guys, according to the doctrine of Spiritism, the body in which we incarnate into is just a package of possibilities designed for the trials and lessons we must learn in this lifetime. Therefore one may incarnate as a white man, then as a black woman, then as a chinese transexual, or whatever. It doesn't matter. We are here to learn.
No.9875
>>9867>in accordance to the fact we chose to incarnate hereThis is complete bullshit why do you keep perpetuating the YCYOR myth?
http://montalk.net/metaphys/68/true-reality-creation-part-iWhat kind of self-hating moron chooses to reincarnate without their memories and into a really shitty bunch of circumstances btw?
As we develop consciously more and more our ability to choose the circumstances of our next incarnation increases. However, for those low down in the scale, there is very little choice.
Also you acting like there's so much choice in the matter strongly contradicts the body of literature concerning how people reincarnate into a similar body as before and typically along the same bloodline.
Also your whole reasoning there is really faulty as a key feature of the belief system that says "we choose our incarnation" is that typically the person doing so knows what life they're going to live and what's going to happen, so stuff like dissatisfaction experienced in the life, racemixing, faggotry, murder, and all sorts of other stuff would have been chosen to.
In reality – none of that shit was necessarily chosen and reincarnation is typically a consequence of being unenlightened and being drawn into a new physical body which acts like a magnet on the spirit. Only Mahasamādhi (consciously leaving the body at the time of the final samadhi) can overcome this condition; and yet the vast majority of persons die an unconscious death and unconsciously are moved to their next life.
MahasamādhiMahasamādhi is the act of consciously and intentionally leaving one's body at the time of enlightenment. A realized yogi or yogini who has attained the state of nirvikalpa samadhi, will, at an appropriate time, consciously exit from their body. This is known as mahasamadhi. This is not the same as the physical death that occurs for an unenlightened person.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahasam%C4%81dhi
>The future is better off without race mixing, as this behavior warps the proper, harmonious development of both individuals and groups alike, without mentioning birth defects and related diseases to it.One of the best arguments against racemixing is that picture in my folder I'd keep posting where Neo and Morpheus are talking about Neo asks Morpheus after Morpheus says "you can be anything in the Matrix", "then why are you a nigger?".
Who the fuck wants to end up in a mongrel body in a future life. Mongrels are disgusting and it would be better to not have to reincarnate as one or for there to be more pure vessels available.
No.9876
Oh and btw before you say spiritual lessons, fuck no, reincarnation sure as fuck isn't about learning when you forget everything. Nobody "chose" their reincarnation who doesn't remember their past life. The very few that chose to reincarnate don't forget shit and know exactly why they're here and don't have to go on a vain quest to "find out" aka get deceived by elementals feeding them nonsense.
No.9877
No.9878
>>9874Authors/books/website citation very much required.
This life is NOT about learning. Nothing is being "learned" in this life whatsoever. There are beings that hold fuckloads of knowledge and could literally just give it to you in a light-bundle of information like in the scene in The Matrix where Neo downloads all that martial arts information.
Anyone claiming we're here to learn a lesson has a retarded mindset.
A more valid argument would be that we're here to forget. I don't accept that argument either though.
I simply think we're here because something else manifested us; something that may have plans in mind for us or not, it may give a shit about us or not, and it may have abandoned us or it may be like a farmer just waiting for the cow to get big enough before he slaughters it.
No.9879
>>9878With all that indecision, you don't deserve to use the Initiate flag.
No.9881
No.9883
>>9875>YCYORSee the other thread, I already replied to you about this.
>What kind of self-hating moron chooses to reincarnate without their memories and into a really shitty bunch of circumstances btw?You came here for a reason. Stop ranting about it uselessly and find out why. No book will ever tell you about your personal decisions.
>Also your whole reasoning there is really faulty as a key feature of the belief system that says "we choose our incarnation" is that typically the person doing so knows what life they're going to live and what's going to happenObviously incarnating in some paradise would take away many reasons for existing, since there would be no struggle. The answer is quite obvious, but you still find yourself reluctant to engaging in self-dialogue and keep insisting on "logic", books and someone else's opinions.
>In reality – none of that shit was necessarily chosenSo you mean evils aren't "necessary"? Then how do you distinguish them from goods?
>Who the fuck wants to end up in a mongrel body in a future life.Ask them, not me.
No.9884
>>9868You make some valid points.
>>9871You seem to think that you know enough about me to make absolute judgments about my character.
You don't.
>>9873Sometimes it was, sometimes it wasn't. Nearly every group was both a perpetrator and a victim in this regard.
No.9885
>>9877>muh vitalism>muh Jesus>muh lessons>muh protector spirits>implying those various philosopher personalities mentioned wouldn't have changed tremendously by now, implying that's just not deception by elementals/aliens>those obvious contradictions just in that article like where they say "All Spirits are created simple and ignorant." and "Spirits pre-exist and will survive matter that was created.">that pushing for equality, liberty, justice aka all that cancerous French Revolution shit>tfw accidentally fucked my post over by misclicking a bookmark and having to come back here and write all this shit again No.9887
>>9879How the fuck does my post indicate any "indecision"?
If you read my last sentence as bunch of "it's this way or it's that way" statements you're reading me wrong.
As I see it men are tulpas, created others at random throughout the multiverse, and the whole multiverse in general is basically manifesting itself chaotically as every mind in it makes up parts of it and spawns more minds that continue to expand creation with their thoughts.
There are many reasons for our existence, as many purposes, as there are reasons and purposes for which we ourselves make tulpas.
It's not "indecision", it's a recognition of a plurality of purposes and reasons. We're not all here for one reason and we're not all necessarily going to LIKE the reason we're here our accept the purpose for which we made. Some of us may be horrified to find out the truth why we are here and some will be very pleased. It will be different for different people because we're all creators and we all come together through chaos spawned by different minds.
The reason you might make a tulpa and the reason I might make one will vary and whatever purpose it is we have in mind for them will likewise vary.
Same thing for us, we're just tulpas ourselves.
See also:
https://freedomboard.kirara.ca/chaos/res/842.htmlI don't know why you people are all such slaves to purpose that you want to be made to run along through a cosmic hamsterwheel to "learn a bunch of lessons" and get a good goy pat on the back from a bunch of scheming spirits that are themselves fallible. How many people search for meaning or purpose to their life with the seeming assumption that if they were to find it then it would bring them happiness? It's just an infantile mindset of a being that needs a cosmic father lording over it.
No.9888
>>9883>You came here for a reason. Stop ranting about it uselessly and find out why. No book will ever tell you about your personal decisions.I did not I was forced into this shithole. This idea that I choose to be here is utter garbage. If I ever "find out why" aka some asshole spirit tells me I'm here for "x reason" I'm going to kick his fucking ass with all of my magical power.
>Obviously incarnating in some paradise would take away many reasons for existing, since there would be no struggle. The answer is quite obvious, but you still find yourself reluctant to engaging in self-dialogue and keep insisting on "logic", books and someone else's opinions.Incarnating into a shithole ill-equipped to deal with that shit sure is retarded.
…and I don't want a reason to exist. I just want to abide in pure consciousness, I just want
to be. Fuck all of this suffering and toil. Fuck this pointless life. I am bound to my body by a magnetic force that draws my soul into it and which is hard to overcome indefinitely as any astral projector knows. I want to break this bond to my body and live in the astral forever, fuck this miserable petty experience. The life of the human with his dimly lit consciousness is barely meaningful at all. Lower conscious is very dull, there is very little available loosh, and the senses are all deadened.
We're insignificant chaff being loosh farmed by aliens. Charles Forte has it pretty much right:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/fort/index.htm
>So you mean evils aren't "necessary"? Then how do you distinguish them from goods?Why the fuck are you bringing up morality when I was talking about causality and freewill? You always bring up irrelevant things in response to stuff you greentext. I never said a thing there about morality.
No.9889
>>9888>If I ever "find out why" aka some asshole spirit tellsNo man, you have to ask yourself about this. We're much more than flesh and soul, and answers lie in thin air. We just have to see them.
>…and I don't want a reason to exist.There is no reason to exist, friend. We make it, create it out of nothingness.
>Fuck this pointless lifeWhy hate life? why not using all of your power to embrace it further, thus managing to be in harmony? You won't get up high by hating yourself as a human being. And you very well know this.
I can help you get the pain out of yourself. And better yet, you can, by yourself too.
>Why the fuck are you bringing up moralityIt wasn't related to morality, I was quoting what you considered good or bad and how you'd distinguish between both. It's more related to discerning rather than plain morality.
>We're insignificant chaff being loosh farmed by aliens. Charles ForteCharles Forte sure has his reasons, but I have mine to deny this and consider myself more than just that. Because we choose, we are, regardless of others' writings about us.
I'm not keen on Buddhism, but I sometimes agree with Buddha. See pic related, its a quote from him.
No.9890
>>9867Fun fact:
"Macumba" is a synonymous for witchcraft/satanism/black magic around here.
And I find amazing that you know Santeria, mostly brazilians doesn't even know about its existence.
No.9891
>>9884>You seem to think that you know enough about me to make absolute judgments about my character.I don't need to know fuck all about you and your character to judge you. I condemn and judge people I know nothing about at all on a regular basis.
Stay butthurt and thanks for the loosh.
No.9893
>>9888Trips, are you considering that this life could be your first?
of many, depending of your dedication No.9898
>>9892See inside yourself. The nature of Esotericism is that of the subtle.
The om-ni is subtle, all around us, and it presents itself in infinite shapes, sounds and different perceptions. Symbols are one of them, and have persisted for eternity.
8Chan uses the 8 and the ∞ as symbols. All represent eternity. All is bound, knotted and in a consistent flow, like the very drawing of this serpentine symbol… Even modern perceptions of infinity are tied to this very knot, like the Mobius Strip:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_symbol#SymbolismThere are no true reasons to suffer nor fear.
No.9903
>>9889>I can help you get the pain out of yourself. And better yet, you can, by yourself too.What is frustrating is my sheer inferiority and inability. Just something like having really shit eyesight every day makes my experience of life miserable and bland, or my mind being in a mental fog and I can barely form any thoughts, or having to see my disgusting inferior and dysfunctional body anytime a reflective surface shows it to me, or having difficulty chewing food because of my teeth or not drooling at night because of the teeth and jaw. My self-hatred is immense and there is little of value that composes me, I just want to experience and think deeply, and be in a comfortable and functional body, and not be held back so much from fully experiencing life because of all this physical and mental damage. It's not just pain, it's worse than that, it's inadequacy and frustration and going day after day and night after night with no sleep and unable to even do basic things. It's the constant monotony, restriction, etc. I just want to run free through the world with my thoughts and my body moving fluidly and beautifully through it like it's parkour. I feel blocked and imprisoned in a disgusting material nature which feels like an affront to my spirit. I want to feel anything that I can even bad/negative emotions and I just live on the emotions of others because it takes so much effort for me to feel anything like I really got to strain myself to feel slightly angry or happy or anything it's just a horrible emotional emptiness as I keep using up all my loosh too fast. I want my body to stop trembling, it's shaking so bad non-stop for several days and nights now, and when I eat my fucking fork shakes so much. My muscles are constantly tense and can't be relaxed and it's horrible to not feel that I can control things like this when others seem to be able to control it. I want to be able to go to sleep after laying down in bed instead of laying there for hours and hours and the fucking sun comes up and I want to cry but I'm so empty I can't cry and I just sort of gasp and feel an immense fatigue and soreness that seems to never leave me… and my body never heals, little cuts and scrapes just don't go away any longer, and leave a permanent mark. I somewhat fear that maybe I have some genetic disease that's manifesting itself for me at young adulthood but I don't know. My mind is shit, my body is shit, it stifles me. I constantly feeling like I am spiritually drowning, suppressed, etc. like everything is so hard to do even the really simple shit like getting up from bed and eating and breathing and responding to people that talk to me in person. Everything is strained, everything is exhausted, everything is stunted, and only at times for a very short while my mind seems to blaze alive and come fully online and it's absolutely amazing as for a few minutes or hours I seem to think and conceive and generate vivid, intense, beautiful thoughts and work my magick but it's a constantly struggle and I feel like everything is really stacked against me and every single day I just want to kill myself and others around me and I think disturbed and worthless dim thoughts. (1 of 2, post too long)
No.9904
>>9903 It feels as a if a great force, a massive impulse, screams out to every cell in my body demanding that I torture myself to death and I want to cut myself to pieces and set myself on fire and roll around in broken glass and drink cleaning chemicals and otherwise destroy the body I hate so fucking much. If I could ever escape my body and get a new and proper vessel, then meet my old body which presumably is still running a physical copy of my mind, I would begin to scream insults at it and to beat it up and drag my old pathetic body with its shitty mind to some trees where I'd die it up. I'd then continue torturing it for hours, yelling into its ears, telling it what worthless garbage it was and what a piece of shit it was to host my consciousness. I'd throw dirt in its face and shove burning kindling down its throat and kick it. When at last it passes out unconscious I'd take an axe to it and repeatedly chop at it for hours, spraying its blood all over me, and make a pile out of it all which I'd then set on fire and when it's all ashes I'd piss on it and then boil that shit until I've made a philosopher's stone out of it or I put it in an urn labeled "the remains of a worthless subhuman that should never have been born". I am nothing but man who has realized his worthless insignificance, my whole life will be as nothing in comparison to even one second of thought of a higher being. I hate this trap, I hate being imprisoned here, forced to experience such abominable limitation. This is no vessel fit for spirit to inhabit. Man should all just be organic portals, just animals, with no divine sparks in them. It was a great cosmic tragedy that divinity had to be trapped in the body of man and made to suffer its limitations. I want to tear off my sluggish flesh, pull my spirit out, keep it out, never have to come back here to this world after escaping into the astral. This demiurgic world is abhorrent and no mundane societal re-arrangements or reformations or "muh elites" or any of that other garbage will change my mind about this. This reality is fundamentally flawed, inferior, pathetic garbage that can not be set right by anything short of its dissolution into the astral as the consequence of the lifting of the veil and the return to dreamtime. I hate physicality, I hate 3D, I hate being the goldfish in the tank. An overwhelming hatred and despair runs out from the core of my being. If the demiurge were to have an avatar in this world whose destruction would mean the end of physicality I'd hunt him down day and night to annihilate that piece of shit. FUCK THE DEMIURGE!!
No.9908
>>9898>introspect>muh subtlety>muh infinity>very dubious claim that there's no true reason to suffer or fearI also really hate the idea of merely being happy, I'll never fap or do drugs or seek happiness for happiness sake, it is more important to be able to think, feel, and be free of limitations than it is to merely be happy. A chemical happiness, a retarded happiness, a dopey happiness; no fuck all of that I want clarity and sharpness of the senses. I want to be able to experience with intensity, not be trapped in a dim and monotonous world where the highest resolution is fucking 240p compared the 720p default of the astral. It's like this whole was made on a shitty low-specs server or computer with most of the features removed and unable to even be experienced at all by most of the players; but the few who have tasted higher consciousness and seen the glory of the new dawn can never turn back again and be satisfied with their shitty old PC. In this world black is hardly black but more of an opaque static, blue is so faded, everything is so fucking shit like it's all made out of shitty sprites with bad textures and shaders and everything. Physicality is out of date, inferior, needlessly limiting, bullshit. Nobody, certainly not me, would ever come here of their own freewill. If some gods scooped me up and brought me to an endless desert and told me to run across it until I either give up or collapse from exhaustion and told me that for each step forward I took in running across that forsaken desert I would earn a whole year to be away from this shithole and remain in the astral I would run and run non-stop no matter how exhausted I became or how much blood starts running from my mouth and nostrils, forcing myself with every last bit of my will, to take step after step until the muscles of my body are physically incapable of going any further and my efforts to drag myself or hobble through it all as sharp pains shoot course through my body, in order to gain as many years of freedom in the astral as I possibly could.
No.9909
>>9903>>9904By reading this, I assume that these could be unstable thoughtforms and/or negative ones prevailing in yourself.
I've been in this situation myself, I admit. It took myself a long time to get out of it.
Is there any way you can contact me, spiritually? I can help you greatly.
I can easen this pain and get rid of any negative thoughts or entities that haunt you.
No.9928
>>9903>>9904And I thought purging oneself bad thoughtforms was one of the first thing you supposed to do after getting considerable control of your own will (or even before that).
Well, just quoting Odin:
FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLDDon't be a victim, anon.
No.9932
>With belief in reincarnation, the prejudices of races and castes fall dead, since the same spirit can be reborn rich or poor, lord or beggar, master or subordinate, free or enslaved, man or woman. Of all the arguments brought against the injustice of servitude and slavery, against the subjection of the weaker to the rule of the stronger, there is no one of them which expresses so logically the reason therefore as the law of reincarnation. If, then, reincarnation is founded upon a law of nature which is the source of universal brotherhood, it is based upon the same law as that of the equality of social rights and of freedom.
-Allen Kardec
Just gonna leave that here..
No.9944
>>9928Muh black and white mirrors ( see: Franz Bardon,
Initiation Into Hermetics )
Muh invocations and MPD, muh chaos magick texts advocating the creation of multiple selfs
Also, muh union of opposites in non-duality, muh constant suffering and bliss together.
Nothing's wrong with my thoughts and if Odin wants to help do some entity purging well there's been a succubus bothering me several days but she's kind of interesting because she actually talks so I'm going to keep trying to get her to talk more and see what she reveals to me.
Anything to fix up my body or energy deficiencies is desired however.
I'm like a slot machine you can pick emotions and my whole expression changes.
No.9945
>>9932> Born Hippolyte Léon Denizard Rivail, October 3, 1804, Lyon, France> Died March 31, 1869, Paris, FranceFuck that egalitarian post 1700s kike.
There are countless racists, anti-semites, etc. who believe in various doctrines of reincarnation.
I myself believe in reincarnation but am as racist as it gets.
His argument is bullshit.
Fuck also "universal brotherhood".
Fuck his whole line of thought.
I should just rewrite his bullshit for him.
No.9947
With belief in reincarnation, the prejudices of races and castes grow stronger, since the same spirit can be reborn rich or poor, lord or beggar, master or subordinate, free or enslaved, man or woman; and it is a reflection of their place in the hierarchy. Of all the arguments brought in favor of the justice of servitude and slavery, for the subjection of the weaker to the rule of the stronger, there is no one of them which expresses so logically the reason therefore as the law of reincarnation. If, then, reincarnation is founded upon a law of nature which is the source of universal antagonism, it is based upon the same law as that of the the survival of the fittest.
No.9956
>>9947I won't offer my help twice. Consider what I've said, it will save you much torment if what you've claimed thus far is exactly as written.
There is no Moksha, no release, no enlightenment under this state of disruption you're in.
You can choose to suffer no more.
No.9962
>>9908>black is opaque static and blue is fadedI am glad this is not something only I deal with. I long to see more true darkness that seems to suck in the light around it, it has an eerie beauty. Seeing spirits move around as bright blue lights is amazing comapred to even a clear sky lit by the daystar (on the few occasions it isn't obscured by chemtrails). The vibrant red filling the vision when in a state of ecstatic fury is just blood but vitally living blood, not some shed dying matter that dulls and darkens into bland claret stains.
Colours look like crap down here for the most part.
No.9974
>>9945
>fuck universal brotherhoodNow I know you're retarded.
And yet you claim to fight against the Demiurge and our "prison" LOL
Fuckin A smiley. Only the most advanced spirits choose how they incarnate, and to them, race and status mean nothing. Us imperfect spirits (you, me, most people on this board) did not choose how we incarnated. It was chosen for us by the guardians/watchers/whatever, who know better and have situated us in circumstances which we must overcome in order to grow.
Stop acting a fool
No.9975
Also, Odin, why do you use the Alien(grey) flag?
No.9991
>>9974
>implying most people don't get recycledDo you even Arcane Teaching?
No.9999
>>9975Because aliums are wise beyond ranks
QUADS, GIVE ME STRENGTH
No.10000
No.10021
>>10001dat palindromic get
No.10026
>>9962>Colours look like crap down here for the most part.This so hard. Mundanes that can't into astral just don't understand.
No.10027
>>9974>and to them, race and status mean nothing.Everything in the literature every totally contradicts your claim.
>It was chosen for us by the guardians/watchers/whatever, who know betterlol yeah so benevolent, forcing us to forget, and depriving us of knowledge and true progress.
silly archon slave
No.10028
>>9999>>10000Motherfricks what a waste, I was going to make a thread with that GET on Vril.
No.10229
>>10027What literature?
>archon slavegood luck with that paranoia friend, hopefully it won't stifle your progress for too long
No.13409
>>8620The eighteen "spells" in the Havamal don't have an exact correspondence to individual runes so much. The association began when Guido von List associated them to his eighteen rune Armanen "Futharkh".
No.22933
odin, no questions. just wanted to say im glad to see someone that isnt completely oblivious to the machinations of the multiverse, and limited by the boundaries of human understanding.
to all the rest of you, the only way to find true answers is to look inward. no book can tell you the true nature of the multiverse. no being ,regardless of power, can truly teach you. ascendence, or enlightenment as most understand it, is a path synonomous with solitude and misunderstanding.
it is the light that invades the dark. the darkness birthed that light as the darkness has birthed all things. balance cannot be found without becoming one with the dark. but thats only the first step lol. you cannot build upon a foundation that has not been tempered