/fringe/ - Fringe

[riding the tiger intensifies]

\Would add Evola flag if only codemonkey would finally fucking fix the flags so I can upload new ones.

>>84832

I'm more of a Schuon fan but I would totally use a Perennialist flag if that was a thing.

I have no idea what that would look like though.

>>84835

I have so many flags I want to add but 8chan is STILL buggy and the problem that prevents new flags being uploaded still hasn't been fixed:

>>>/sudo/6465

>>>/sudo/6132

I guess you could call me a "fan" of his work. I don't post here often, though. If anyone is interested in discussing him my email is juanbaptistefitzcarraldo@gmail

I generally prefer conversation, one on one, through email to message boards, but I browse here occasionally.

>>84942

I can't tell if your post is a joke or not.

>>84950

it's not, I prefer more serious, long term engaged discussion through email

>>84957

>fourth way flag

>fan of evola

i may email you yet, juan

Can anyone comment on the content inside Introduction to Magic? I've heard its a good alternative to IIH but i haven't seen Evola or his techniques discussed anywhere near as much as Bardon.

>>84973

Still waiting on that email. Are you at all involved in "the work"?

>>85153

I'm still new to that particular book (started it recently), but it's not exactly any kind of systematic exposition on a topic. It has several authors contributing with Julius Evola as the editor. It's basically a collection of essays. Evola has a seperate book on Hermeticism and Alchemy called "The Hermetic Tradition".

I haven't read that Bardon book, so I can't offer a comparison.

>>84942

>If anyone is interested in discussing him my email is juanbaptistefitzcarraldo@gmail

We have this imageboard called "/fringe/" where you can have discussions about shit like this.

>>85153

I read parts of it long ago and found it very flowery. I'm not big into poetry and just read to find actually useful information, so I dropped it.

>>85228

And some of us have emails where we discuss things in addition to the discussions we already engage in on image boards.

>>85283

Only thing I disagree with is that he says to read Path of Cinnabar last. If you really want to get into Evola, more than superficially, then read it early on. It not only goes into the context in which each of his books was written, but also summarizes their major concepts. It's a good intro to his work. He also comments on the ways in which his views may have changed. For example, with reference to Heathen Imperialism, he considered it to be the work of an immature mind.

>>85283

>conspicuous knuckle duster on book with his name.

>assault rifle magazine and bullets sprinkled on top of another book.

Poser chic.

I think 'ride the tiger' may have been his catchphrase 'come to bed' remark, probably with a growl at the end and a 'come on baby and' at the beginning.

>>85283

Does an English translation of Heathen Imperialism exist? I absolutely need it.

>>85323

It is here: https://juliusevola.co/library/

>>85153

It is not nearly as clear as IIH, but may be just as valuable. Read the essay "knowledge of the waters", and if you like it, you'll like the rest of the book. There's also an intriguing, complex ritual described a third of the way in, from old Mithraic texts so it could help those looking for a "non jew-pozzed" ritual preserved from antiquity.

>>85227

I've been away but I will contact you soon.

I am in contact with a group that practices "the Work" and try to run my own exercises as best I can from reading his material

>>85283

One comment I'd make on this image in relation to what the author said about Evola's criticism on fascism. Evola criticizes primarily the doctrine of fascism in that work, not specifically the actual regime of Mussolini, though that is addressed (and found to be certainly inferior to the 'pure' doctrine).

I think there is a major error in the way people on here view fascism and national socialism. They seem to think that these are political expressions of the 'higher order of things,' but really they are what one might call imitations, or even parodies. Evola, and the viewpoint that judges thing 'from the top down' in general, favors fascism, national socialism and related things only insofar as they are preferable to the other modern systems. I really recommend Rene Guenon's "Reign of Quantity" to anyone interested in looking into this, and of course Evola's criticisms of fascism and national socialism.

>>84825

His works seem nice.

>>85373

Yeah ok, Evola was actualyl an anti-racist liberal that wanted to insittute global street shitting, who would have thought. And here we thought he proposed ideals of fascist thought, talking about pagan imperiums and whanot.

>>85672

you do not understand. please read what Evola actually wrote

>>85686

He was anti-Fascist, but pretty much as right wing as possible aside from that.

>>86013

>anti-fascist

In that it wasn't right wing enough

Reading "Revolt Against the Modern World" and "Doctrine of Awakening" at the moment. Books like this should be part of the required reading for this board. Same with the UR Group's "Intro to Magic".

>>85672

In "The Path of Cinnabar" Evola said that people shouldn't even bother reading "Pagan Imperialism" since he wrote it during an edgy phase. In general Evola considered his "political" works as a source of annoyance since people would often visit him desiring to discuss politics when all Evola really cared about was the spiritual development and progress of the individual, which of course implies for Evola something transcendent, super-individual, and super-political.

juliusevola.co library doesnt seem to have evola pdfs anymore

Besides the first volume of Introduction to Magic, is there any other material from the Ur group available in English? I quite like the more practical aspect of that text vs some of Evola's more academic works.

>>117040

This is the best we have: http://www.gornahoor.net/?s=introduction+to+magic&submit=Search

Unfortunately it seems unlikely the other two volumes of Introduction to Magic will be translated and published.

I'm totally new to Evolas work and frankly I've wanted to read some of his works for almost a year now but never got around to do it. This thread remindet me of it. You have my thanks Paganon

Reminder to read Guenon's works until "The Symbolism of the Cross" first before you even start Evola

>>118322

Why?

>>84942

>juan

Just how many spaniards are involved in occult/esoteric and proto-european etymological research has always piqued my interest.

>>118328

he was THE influence on Evola, and that's the date where Evola starts writing his own works. I can guarantee you that Evola read the first 10 works of Guenon atleast once, if not multiple times.

i've read about 100 pages from Metaphysics of Sex along with "Meditation on the Peaks" and "Ride the Tiger". I find him to be too unclear in most cases. >>84942 do you have a blog? you should start one if not. I'm interested in what people have to say about Evola but I don't have anything to contribute

>>118337

I wouldn't know, since it's a pseudonym and I'm not actually a Spaniard.

>>118493

I do. Haven't updated in a while, though.

https://juanfitzcarraldo.wordpress.com

I've more read his more mainstream stuff but I got a book called The Occult War on his recommendation in his essay about historiography which I'm about to start. I dont expect anything much in terms of actual occult discussion but it looks pretty interesting and semi-related

I like Evola, but he never really gets to the heart of the issue, the core of our existence here and the obvious bullshittery with things like astronomy or paleontology so it seems he's just a loosh farming idiot.

>>120494

And what would you consider to be the heart of the issue? Evola diagnosed the issues of modernity in great detail while providing insight into the various different paths a "differentiated individual" can follow.

I tried to read ride the tiger and Julius Evola just drove me insane. I feel like I couldn't really get to the base of what he was trying to say because he may have believed he was some kind of poet but instead his words were a pain to read. I really wanted to understand his message and think about it, but I couldn't even understand him in the first place. I'm upset when knowledge is lost because people can't just get over their ego and speak plainly.

>>123193

whoa, nice

>>123193

https://www.innertraditions.com/introduction-to-magic-volume-ii.html

>On Sale Date : February 19, 2019

>>123193

Why does nobody make audiobooks of Julius Evola's works?

Someone has to narrate his stuff.

Can somebody scan the book or buy the Kindle file and upload it

https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Magic-II-Initiatic-Wisdom-ebook/dp/B07C7KNX3Z/

I'm willing to donate if necessary

>>129338

Just downloaded your file and it says "the pdf has been damaged" and that "xodo can't open the file".

…

>>129339

just add ".epub"

>>129338

I just want to remind everyone to buy the book as well to show interest in Evola's work. It will suck if we have to wait another 18 years for volume 3 to get translated.

>>129341

Or just learn the language? What is it, Italian? Shouldn't take more than two years to master

https://my.mixtape.moe/jovyzi.epub

Uploaded it here

It's under 5mb

Any thoughts on the book so far? The essay Subterranean Logic is pretty good.

>>118728

>>118734

What are Guenon's best books, or which of his works should I read first? I've been making my way through Evola's oeuvre, and have finished reading much of his writings translated and published into English; I'd like to study more of Traditionalist esotericism, and Guenon seems to me the most logical philosopher to read next. Any other recommendations for esoteric philosophers of this school of thought and illuminating insight would also be appreciated. Also, are there any modern esoteric authors of Evola's caliber?

>>129402

Thank you kindly, anon. With this list of scholars you've provided, I will have no shortage of useful study material for the foreseeable future.

It's too bad that there doesn't seem to be any contemporary esotericists who can measure up to the standards of Evola, compared to whom most other occult authors are mere dilettantes; perhaps it's a consequence of the further decline in the age of Kali Yuga. What a shame if the best that the current generation of occultists has to offer is Styxhexenhammer666!

"Occultism" is reading books - The Thread

Can anybody upload an ebook or scan The Mask and Face of Contemporary Spiritualism? The book had a ridiculously short print run (not because of Jewish tricks this time) and I can't find a copy anywhere. I'm interested in his valid and crucial take of modern forms of spiritualism being outlets of escapism, and I was also surprised he held Crowley and Gurdjieff in a high or at least a positive regard and want to know more.

Here's the Arktos podcast review of the book.

>https://youtu.be/rw6G485JraM

>>89508

in that it wasn't spiritual enough, which I guess can be associated with the right due to the tradition of religion. I recall a quote about how it tried to adorn itself with religion like a newly rich man does with culture. But it did it heavy handedly through the catholic church.