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>>89218

The Way of the Shaman by Michael Harner (which is in the library Mega folder, which you should have already looked at if you wanted resources). I haven't read much of it, so I don't know if it details the exact same thing I've been doing, but the book was also recommended to me by my friend who introduced me to journeying. He's been doing it for a couple decades. He has an actual drum, so I'm not doing it with some audio through headphones. You can do it like that, and there are plenty of recordings around the internet. It's a type of guided visual meditation. There's a basic drum beat for about 15 minutes or so. At the start of the drum beat, he slowly says all of the instructions for the guided part: visualize a large tree in front of you, look at what's around you, get up closer to the tree, notice a hole/tunnel in the tree or its roots, have a look inside, and then go into the hole/tunnel. That's over the course of maybe a minute or so. Then at the end of the 15 minutes (it can be as long as you want but that's what we all usually do), the drums slow down to silence, then there's four slower beats, then it's fast for a little while, then there's four beats again and it ends. That's the call to return. It's when you're meant to go back to the tree. All of the visualizations usually come to you, rather than you deciding each and every thing that happens. You can control it, though. For example, a couple of times I've been in a cave or a cabin or something like that (long story short) and I've consciously decided to materialize a piano out of the ground and try to make music. It's never any good, but it's kinda interesting, at least. I'm not sure that much of it is meant to be prophetic or anything massively profound like that. He tells me it definitely is occasionally, and he's apparently gone astral a few times with it, but I haven't had any of those experiences, he's far, far more experienced with this kind of thing than I am, and I definitely pay more attention to hermeticism than anything else.

>>89911

>stop doing drugs

no - every tool has it's own use

>>90536

>outside influence

some only need the veil lifted to explore

I will say that shamanistic beliefs are powerful - but they are not a substitute for other means of communication and or travel.

Back in the day, before I really knew what was going on I used to wander the woods at night on all manners of substances - the best and worst time put things into perspective for me.

Drugs are a tool to help you see things as they are - albeit warped through your perspective. and as a result of this perspective shift, are only useful when attempting to receive information in a limited environment limited sensory input.

Even with this, you open yourself up to a lot of other entities and energy that want to fuck with you, take part of your soul, steal your energy, or just fuck with you - lots of those that are trapped on this plane are old and are bored.

If you attempt to do these things or really anything related to magical shit, you must be protected and ensure that you do not invite anything to take harbor with you.

SHAMANISM AND DRUG USE ARE TOOLS

THE TOOLS GREATEST LIMITATION IS THE USERS IMAGINATION

I've had "Spirit Walking" by Rysdyk in my library now for a few years. I picked it up again just yesterday after a nice walk in the woods, perhaps I will start doing the meditations in these book now. It seems to be basically a bunch of meditations on your spirit animal, spirit guides etc to accompanying audio files you can get on her website.

>>98441

It does enable a much, much younger start than most get. I would have died at the age of seven(or probably younger) if I didn't get picked up. They fucking molded me, though. Forged me into what they needed.

Never gonna stop shedding negative vibes but it can't be helped. At least I'm alive.

>>98446

Yeah I guess. Spend five or six lives as a warrior and one as a goddamn custodian. For all the meaning I try to pour into it, I'm a saprovore custodian.

Goddamnit.

>>98926

Sure, I can try. I'll only be handing out my own experiences, but I hope it helps.

For me, I was chosen because my early life experiences(0-6 early) made me mentally suitable, and I would not have survived without their assistance. As far as I have been able to tell, they literally reached into me and cured me of a crippling, ordinarily incurable disease just to make use of me.

Forced spirit rape. AHaha. AHSAHGSHGS. Yes, the first times they reached out to me was in horrifying nightmares. Learned my first rituals that way. Forced spirit rape is a word for it.

For me, 'breaking' me was to mold me into what they needed. I can only assume that is how it is for most; they make you into what they need and create a front that is useful for them to wield.

I'm not sure what he means by 'code'… but I did get a keen understanding of myself, the way I'm programmed, and my internal functions physical, mental, and spiritual as a result of watching those functions be painfully torqued and mutated and rewritten for years. Constantly. I'm not traumatized, what makes you think I'm traumatized?

The pros and cons are 'someone has to do it' and 'wow, I'm perfect for this job because I am a tool forged for decades to perform this singular task'. It's… existential. I am not as intimately familiar with other ways of doing things, so I don't know what he means.

Whatever kind of Karma or Dharma or whatever can earn you this, avoid it. Apparently I was a soldier repeatedly in past lives, so maybe that's it.