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What a synchronicity, I was just talking about Bruce and Astral Dynamics.

I was thinking, if this stuff works, couldn't we use it to augment all of scientific progress? I mean we could literally remote view anything, anywhere.

>>9492

This thread was synchronistic for me too - yesterday I watched some Robert Bruce videos and started reading New Energy Ways and Astral Dynamics, because I kind of want to get the whole picture, not just the watered down "90 days tutorial for AP" (though I'm sure it's very valid material by itself. I'm just very interested in the Energy stuff, so I figured I'd read it all).

I've been keeping a "dream journal" for a couple of weeks now, and I must say, it feels pretty good, does wonders for dream recall, and you start learning and noticing "how dreams work", intuitively. It's great.

>>9493

and I thought I had seen all the miru photos, thanks, do you have a full collection? I lost mine a few weeks ago

I had stopped my dream journal, didn't have an idea that affected the projection, now that I think about it makes sense, the whole shadow memory concept that he talks about in Astral Dynamics (currently reading this one before the one from the thread) is about recollecting the experiences from the OBE, the whole practice is useless if you don't know what you did.

Guess I'm starting tomorrow.

>>9531

Didn't go far yet in Astral Dynamics, but where I am he says that those distortions are caused by the subconscious, so theoretically a very trained mind would see everything clear, at least at a fair distance around his body.

>>9532

Yes, I found this deeply mindfucking, does he mentions the Astral Feedback in this book? For a quick summary, is basically having your physical mind and real-time body mind awake at the same time like literally being aware of two minds and bodies at the same time and looking each other, basically gazing at the infinite, he says that doing this can bring some permanent damage to your brain or psyche in general, because, as a human, you can't bear with that limitlessness.

But two interesting things that arise from that concept (that he calls Mind Split in Dynamics):

1. Theoretically that would render possession impossible, I would like to hear input of some more advanced wizards, mainly Smiley himself, to hear what they have to say about this.

2. It's quite intriguing that the way you can reach further dimensions is projecting your projection and awakening yet another mind, Bruce implies that you could do that infinitely, but human brain wouldn't cope with so many memories to record, that's why Spiritual realms are so hard to reach.

Also, already started my diary, two inputs already

Just woke up (middle of the night here) from a dream. It was rather intense and this was the first thread I stumbled upon which I thought stuitable to inquiry about it in.

In the dream-segment (which was very clear and lifelike) was I with a few irl friends in a house and one of them suggested I'd do a yogic breathretaining excercise (one which i do everyday). I did it and BAM i started hearing a bunch of whispering voices inside my head, accompanied with a few constant non-verbal sounds/tones.
What they said was a bit unclear to me (if you've played as a malkavian in Vampire: Bloodlines The Masquerade then that was the kind of whispers I heard). In the beginning it was just loads of different voices that created a sort of white-noise, but after a moment the voices became clearer. There were both male and female voices, all with different personalities (as I recall) and they spoke with neither maelevolence or benevolence, just sort of rambling, schizofrenic nonsense, but as it went on I started to pick out the different voices and listen to each of them invidivually (one male voice in particular) and their sayings made more sense (but not a whole lot of it). Right now i don't recall precisely what they said though, but I remember thinking/asking if the voices were my subconscious or if I'd tapped into some new frequency outside of myself. What the voices answered is a bit unclear but I think they said they were my subconscious. This, I think, made me a bit uneasy and the intensity of the voices increased. I prayed out to God to give me strength to endure (yes, i know) and for some reason cryed out something like "brother, where are you?!" And tried to search out God's/my brother's voice among the dozens of scrambled voices. I don't think I got an answer but it was interesting to focus on the voices and sort of navigating through them in search for the "true voice". It was sort of like travelling in a landscape of sound.
Then two of the non-verbal tones/sound (which was as I heard them then, but I thought in the dream that perhaps these as well were voices which I did not understand) gained in volume, draining out the other voices, and I grasped my head between my hands from the sheer intensity of it. Then the dream shifted and became mundane again.


That was it. Just felt the want to share/write it down.
It was quite fascinating to realize just how much life there is in our subconscious (if that indeed was what those voices were) and how pretty much all of it goes unheard (at least in my waking state). If this is what a schizofrenic person can experiences day to day then holy shit it must be challenging.
I understand a bit more now just how shattered my personality is, how these voices (who seemed to have distinct personalities) all are a part of me and that I have responsibility towards them. But perhaps it wasn't inside my head but instead something else, who knows.

Is anyone continuing/finished with this?

How were your results?