No.13457
Frequently Asked Questions on /fringe/
>1. If am new to /fringe/ what books should I read to learn magick?Go to the sticky (
>>1 ).
Download the whole folder if you can.
Now read these books:
1. The Kybalion2. The Arcane Teachings3. The Arcane Formulas4. The Science of Breath5. Mind Power: The Secret of Mental Magic6. 2014 a Series of Lessons7. Personal PowerCompleting the above books (all by William Walker Atkinson) will give you the knowledge you need to begin practising magick and developing yourself into an initiate. You will find more books in the library besides these to further extend and refine your training such as
Initiation Into Hermetics and
The Universal Master Key both by Franz Bardon and highly recommended. Other books will help you specialize in other areas.
New Energy Ways v2 will get you started with energywork and combines with all other practises. You may do further research on your own into various other systems relating to energywork to further flesh out your knowledge by reading about different cultures and authors views on the matter and comparing it.
>2. Muh Chakras (write about them here)
>3. Muh physical body development, aka /fit/ for wizards.
>4. How to develop your magickal potential properly and combine it with your work in life.
>5. Ritual; what is its purpose and how does it work?
>6. The meaning of life?
>7. Should arcane power be flaunted? Post last edited at 2014-12-21 12:09:38
No.13465
/fringe/, how do I close a chakra once and for all? It re-opened itself. Will it stop if I keep re-closing it?
No.13467
is there a way to use magic to survive while being homeless? i really need this.
No.13469
Reposting unanswered question
So I have been wondering what is meant by a thoughtform. Is it simply any thought? Or is it more a thought that serves a purpose maybe automates something to make it easier for you to do something like a computer program but with your mind and thoughts?
A few minutes ago a thought popped into my mind when I was reading some posts about thoughtforms my minds attention was brought to something I thought of as a child and just remembered of a few months ago and used since.
I get things stuck in my head maybe easier than others things repeating in my head like a song just replaying a certain part of a song over and over and over again and this would frustrate me. What I did as a child was think about the song getting faster and faster and faster and the faster it would get the higher pitch it would get until it is just a high pitch sound and then imagining it exploding and the song would completely stop playing in my mind. I believe it works for any sound even if it's not a song.
Is this an example of a thoughtform?
No.13475
>>13457is there a way to possess ones future self for a day?….. and will the timeline change if i do it
No.13478
I almost od'd on loosh the other day, how can I prevent this in the future?
No.13484
Is there a limit to how many times I do the exercise in IIH? For example can I do whatever exercise I'm currently on at the start of every hour if I want?
How do I know if I'm doing the Complete Breath from The Science of Breath right?
I felt a very slight version of what happens when you breathe really fast and you get light headed. Is this a sign I'm doing it correctly?
No.13488
What's the deal with the third eye?
When doing the no-thought exercises in Liber MMM, just for fun I decided to concentrate on my third eye, visualising it breathing like those chaos magick comics suggested, and tried to gaze out through it.
I got a really rapid, sharp throbbing sensation in that region, which stopped when I opened my eyes.
What was this? And what actually happens when you open your third eye?
No.13497
Aside of the ladder technique, is there any other good ways to enter a trance? I am learning it now, but I haven't succeeded in it yet - aside of two or so times when I felt I was close.
No.13500
>>13488You stimulated your third eye and felt it. You can(and probably should) do this with all of your chakras. When the third eye is awakened, you are not instantly clairvoyant. I suggest that you keep working on it
No.13501
>>13478>how to not 'od' on looshMeditate and practice something truly beneficial. Forget loosh farming. It does not further your personal development.
No.13502
>>13465Imagination is the magicians greatest asset.
No.13504
I'm looking for specific ways to radically boost my intellect. I would like to improve my IQ by one or more standard deviations. Is thus possible, and if so, how do I do it?
No.13506
>>13504IQ is a shit measurement, read Atkinson's Your Mind and How to Use It.
No.13507
>>13506If IQ is shit then what's good? My understanding of IQ is that it's a measure of your brain's ability to detect patterns which I think is a pretty important part of intelligence–both seeing and predicting patterns so with this, it's alright.
>>13504Work on improving your focus for starters.
No.13510
>>13507If you want to improve IQ, take a lot of IQ tests.
If you want to improve something tangible or useful like memory or reading speed, work on that directly.
No.13515
>>13507Check out Bruce Lipton's work as well as epigenetics as a whole. Consciousness can change anything, including your level of intelligence. All is mind, remember?
No.13516
>>13515Is Bruce Lipton's work in the mega? Are there any recommended epigenetics books?
No.13517
>>13516I don't think his stuff is in the mega, but i'm sure you could find it quickly from a search engine. His book "The Biology of Belief" is the first place you should start, it's on Montalk's recommended book list. There's also a few presentations of his on Youtube as well as the audio series "Wisdom of Your Cells".
http://files.brauliobo.org/books/The%20Biology%20of%20Belief/The%20Biology%20of%20Belief%20-%20Bruce%20Lipton%20PhD%20%28228%20pages%29.pdfhttp://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bruce+lipton No.13521
I grew found of the 'Om Namah Shivaya' & 'Om VidayGaneshaya Namah' mantras, however my Bhakti Yogi friend informed me that it is not so beneficial to chant such mantras in this dark age and if not chanted precisely it can have an ill effect. The Maha Mantra, however, which contains the benefits of all mantras, is the prescribed mantra and does not have the requirements of other mantras. I am okay with just chanting this mantra, as I am not skeptical of the benefits, however I do wonder whether it may just be Hare Krishna propaganda that other mantras are not so useful anymore and are too difficult for beginners to chant. Thoughts?
&
I have tried the THOTH vibration with mudra for weeks, yet I do not think my third eye is open. It is supposed to work after 4 days, but alas. I have also tried a different chant and BWs, yet still two eyed! I do see what I believe is etheric energy (a symptom of third eye opened), and it has become more apparent after doing the chants, but then lessened after stopping. I have seen this energy since I was a child (showing I had made progress in a spiritual practice in a previous life I think. Fair conclusion?) and I have been seeing astral lights (mostly blue, also white and gold) for a few months and they seem to have been increasing since attempting activation, so I guess it is partially open
Any tips? I'm thinking I should just let it open naturally through meditation and diet, but it is a pain to wait since I don't believe serious magical advancement can be made until the chakras are fully working and activating them from the top is one of the first steps
No.13527
What are dimensions? Are they different Universes? Is there anything special about them?
No.13531
can i get a answer can i use the astral to skip say a year to see something and can i come back but will the future change?
No.13532
>>13531I just read a thread on time travelling and apparently, no. Once you leave, you can never return.
No.13560
>>13475Yeah but first you have to promise right now that on that date in the future you will allow your past self to possess you like that and that you will do everything the exact same.
No.13561
Questions thread is really a great idea :^)
No.13566
I'd like to know about experiences with opening the heart chakra. I've been working on meditation exercises for it lately and I feel a pressure and aching in my chest almost perpetually, as well as my upper back. It's a general and literal heartache, from things like stress, sadness, shame, loneliness, attachment, lovesickness, etc. My life's become an emotional rollercoaster, and I can sometimes go from an entirely hopeless, bleak, borderline suicidal depression one day and feel a joy of simply being alive the next, though currently I'm hanging more on the former. Is this familiar with anyone else who's dealt with opening the heart chakra? I'm assuming it's the "it gets worse before it gets better" stage.
No.13567
I'll have trouble wording this, but it's been a nagging thought for a while:
Okay. So I have read of magicians drawing a distinction between between visually empowered magick (imaginative magick I suppose) and physical "macro" magick which affects the world in such ways as to cause (e.g.) all the strange observable things.
When beginning my LBRP practices, I read that one was not to force any "wonky" visualizations or any sensations which are not there – but to truly attune your physical sensory organs to what you are doing, and to be truly aware of what is or isn't happening, without judgment.
They said: "The greatest goal of the Neophyte is simply to experience what occurs."
Now, I had placed a lot of emphasis on visualization at one point – but I am not so certain.
I would like to post the a link to the forum thread I read this in, but I am not sure how people here might feel about that.
Basically,the information threw me for a loop and off track.
No.13569
Are there any fringe-like subjects to study in University?
No.13570
>>13569Or could just be something fringe thinks is really useful..
No.13574
>>13465You can not and do not want to close off a chakra "once and for all".
>>13467Yes lots of ways. Get guidance from spirits, attract things to you, use heightened senses to survive, use tumo meditation to stay warm, etc.
No.13575
>>13469http://montalk.net/about/212/glossary#thoughtform
>Is this an example of a thoughtform?Yes and I fucking HATE those. That's an invasive sort of thoughtform that needs to fuck the fuck off and stop bothering me.
No.13576
>>13478How can you overdose on loosh? Explain more.
>>13484>Is there a limit to how many times I do the exercise in IIH?No.
>How do I know if I'm doing the Complete Breath from The Science of Breath right?Just follow the instructions! Fill yourself all the way up with air and then out!
>I felt a very slight version of what happens when you breathe really fast and you get light headed. Is this a sign I'm doing it correctly?No you're doing it wrong. That's now how you do it! Read also
Vril as it talks about it in there or just read the rest of
The Science of Breath.
You shouldn't get light-headed, you should instead feel extremely clear-minded, and all of your body should feel well oxygenated.
No.13577
>>13488Read
Transcendence and
The Invisible Influences.
When you focus on any part of the body you can manipulate it and clear it out, you probably have something in the part of your brain that needs to be cleared before it'll stop hurting.
>>13497The Principle of Rhythm'' is key. Every single trance induction method is about rhythm.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=Trance+Induction&ia=aboutYou could also overdose on melatonin to be in a non-stop light trance that can easily be made deeper by an effort of will but you can't pull out of that trance for several hours until melatonin reaches normal levels in your body.
>>13504There's a book by Atkinson about memory, there's several books by various authors about thoughtforms that you'll want, and there's a couple more books about developing your mind. Also there are entities you may contact when you are skilled enough for further enhancements. You can make yourself extremely massively more intelligent with magick but it's tough work, you have to purify yourself and your living space, and mentally build yourself up.
No.13579
>>13521Chant whatever the fuck you want. The intention and other variables are more important. They're just sound vibrations you're making.
I didn't use chanting to work on my chakras.
>>13527http://montalk.net/about/212/glossary#dimensionDimensionWhen used casually, “dimension” refers to a particular world, realm, or environment that is distinguished from another by more than mere time or physical location. When used in a more scientific sense, “dimension” refers to the degree of freedom allowed for extension and movement. These two definitions are sometimes interchangeable, sometimes not, and sometimes they correspond to density, sometimes not.
One cause for confusion is that humans exist in Third Density and are confined to three spatial dimensions, while aliens are mostly Fourth Density and seem to have access to a fourth spatial dimension. This comes from the observation that aliens can move through solid objects, travel through time, see multiple timelines at once, have crafts that are bigger on the inside than the outside, and so on. Therefore “3D and 4D beings” could imply “Third and Fourth Density beings” just as much as “third and fourth dimensional beings”. The terms “hyperdimensional” and “higher density” are synonymous in my writings for that reason.
But that’s where the correlation between density and dimension ends, otherwise plants would know only the line, animals only the plane, and humans the volume. Yet these lower densities all inhabit the same three dimensional physical environment. Similarly, Fifth Density beings don’t necessarily have access to a fifth spatial dimension barred to Fourth Density beings.
The other cause for confusion is that “dimension” is sometimes used as a generic term meaning any number of things according to context, be it “realm of existence” or “timeline” or “plane of reality” — basically some environment, not always our own. In some contexts, dimension and density would then be interchangeable, but not in other contexts. For instance, there may be Third Density beings living in a parallel Earth, and while they aren’t of different density nor greater or lesser spatial dimension than we are, some people might describe them as being of another dimension, meaning “another world” not within our physically explorable universe.
Therefore, keep in mind that density and dimension are not the same thing, although occasionally the two are interchangeable.
>>13531You can remote view things from the astral and the things you see do not have to be in the present they may be in the future or past.
The future is always changing. I know a wizard who would look into the future and it's some pretty complex stuff trying to see into the future and not change it and basically to do that you have to forfeit the possibility of being able to change what you saw.
>>13566I'll write yet another new guide on chakras, these questions keep coming up…
No.13580
>>13569>>13570>going to university at allI know a telepathic wizard that literally stole the memories and skills of people who went to university, taking it all out of their minds, and transplanting it into his own. Instant knowledge and useful skills as a result but a lot of upset people that attacked him because of it.
Study whatever you want and just use magick to enhance your ability to do whatever it is you are doing.
If you're a doctor you can combine standard medical knowledge with magickal healing techniques.
If you're a programmer you can combine programming techniques with thoughtforming.
etc. no matter what it is, there's ways to combine magick with it, to make it more potent
No.13590
>>13580Wow that's really cool. Really hope I can one day become initiated or something. Currently reading through Science of Breath. (I've been lurking in occult forums before this)
No.13592
What's up with William walker '2014' lessons?
I thought he died like a hundred years ago?
>Many mysteries still surround Atkinson's life, including the fact that a certificate of copyright issued three years after his death is said to have been signed by the author himself.WAT
>>13580How can I get in touch with this wizard? I want a guru
No.13618
>>13592I'm sure it was compiled by someone else as to gather all Atkinson's Yoga books in a single work. There was a 2013 version, but the 2014 one had all the empty pages removed, so that reading it is easier.
I think his previous body broke long time ago, but it doesn't matter. I wish he'll have a great life when he reincarnates, whenever and wherever that happens.
No.13621
>>13590He was from Ireland btw.
No.13622
>>13592>implying a high level occultist like William Walker Atkinson ever truly dies>implying he isn't channelling new texts to people to this day or else reincarnated and living in the world as a completely unknown identity producing more texts
>How can I get in touch with this wizard? I want a guruYou could get in touch with him in the Order of Fringe Wizards skype group, he's usually there, but he's burnt out man. Some fucked up things happened in his life and he tried to commit suicide, there was a whole thread about it on old /fringe/, which is probably still around. You could learn a few things from him but I doubt he'd become a "guru" to you.
>>13618I don't know why the guy labels it 2014 but it's just a collection of every work written by William Walker Atkinson under the "Yogi Ramacharaka" pseudonym.
No.13625
>>13622Man I wanna join the skype group, added Fringe Wizard and asked to join, no replies:/
No.13627
>>13625I'll add you later, the chat is exceedingly dead and shitty, and the good stuff is here on this board. There were a lot of fedoras in there before but everyone at this point has kind of realized what a timesink Skype is and is focusing on self-improvement and Holidays shit right now.
No.13628
>>13627Alright, thanks :D
No.13629
I saw a blue aura around the moon two summers ago. What is that? Have you seen it? It was beautiful, but do space bodies have their own auras? What about if the moon is an artificial construct, any idea what it would be in that case? A year or so before that event I also saw a rolling line of what looked like black smoke go from the top of the moon to the bottom, covering the entire width of it. A friend of mine saw this event with me but neither of us had any idea what it was.
No.13635
Is this legit? I don't think it is
No.13636
>>13457May I recommend certain anon's guide to Yoga? It combines fitness with concentration practice, (plus other things), all vital aspects of balanced wizardry.
He gathered some articles by Frater Veos, a Bardonic student who has mixed Yoga with Theurgy, and there's an autobiography by an actual self-realized yogi, plus a short thread of daily yoga activities everyone can add to their routines.
Here are the articles;
http://pastebin.com/SihWHG5s No.13644
so has any1 ever documented astral entities and any rituals on the internet are real? also if i become a being capable of moving through the 4th density can i go to other universes? and the guy that asked bout time travel, is there a way to tell the likelihood of a timeline coming to pass?
No.13645
>>13636His commentary on IIH is very insightful. I second this
No.13648
Om Namah Shivaya
or
Om mani padme hum
for Japa
No.13650
>>13648Which one do YOU prefer?
No.13652
>>13650I'm feeling Om Namah Shivaya
I'll go with that
No.13653
Hello I want to know how to do some magick
plz post videos
No.13655
>>13653Just wait for the FAQ to be finished and in the meanwhile go read one of the many threads as well as many questions in the previous question thread in which the exact same thing as you was asked.
I don't know of any good
video tutorials for magick. Someone has to make them. I'd make them if I could just devise a suitable mask and could present myself well… maybe.
No.13658
At the moment, I'm looking through "Magical use of thought forms" from the mega, and I've noticed some disturbing facts.
I've built scientific models of the exact things described in this book, written on gigantic pieces of paper and drawn in as much detail as my skill will allow.
It's like I have an in-born knowledge of all these things. Is there a word for that?
No.13663
>>13658>>13658Is it a good book? Can u give a quick review?
No.13664
>>13663Yes, it is a good book. It gives some real practical advice and good theoretical foundation.
No.13668
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Hey, I want to learn how to sit in the full-lotus position. Vid related, it's the guide I'm following. Is it /fringe/ approved or are there other recommendations?
No.13673
>>13668You mean is full-lotus position approved?
I can't see why not. It is said the position brings peace of mind, thus helping one to achieve great state of meditation, and it also allows the prana to flow freely in one's body.
I myself sit in siddhasana.
No.13677
>>13673No, I was referring to the guide I posted. I wanted to know if the guide was decent.
No.13679
>>13671Daily reminder that by ejaculating you lose mana.
No.13680
Is there a book I should be reading about emotional alchemy
No.13681
To keep a high vibration or make best use of the mind, during the day, is it best to try to think no thoughts, loop a mantra in head or repeat affirmations?
No.13683
>>13681Easily, it is to think no thoughts. I tell you the truth, I am dumb as a brick it seems, yet because I think no thoughts and merely exist in the astral as I go about my business, I am perceived as wise by many of my coworkers and all my acquaintances.
No.13685
>>13681Rembe'er a time u had a high bvbratio and the. Make it believe it's real again
No.13690
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>>13679>Bitches don't know>'Bout my mana potions No.13691
Should I live in an off-road wizard cabin or is it too flashy?
Is it more 'legit' to live like john the baptist? (Eating bugs and living in the forest)
No.13692
>>13683I thought so. It can be difficult for a beginner such as myself to hold no thoughts for a significant period. I think it would be better for myself to use mantra in head when walking and performing tasks, as this will help to think no thoughts easier, I think
>>13685Can be difficult to hold such feels for significant period, but good idea
No.13693
>>13691If John the Baptist lived today, he'd dish out baptisms from a vehicle.
No.13704
Is suicide considered shameful in the /fringe/ point of view?
No.13709
>>13704Only if it's Mahasamadhi if I'm correct (I'm just a neophyte).
No.13714
Hello everybody, thank you for the tremendous resources you've made available.
This question is aimed at the veterans/experienced men.
What are your thoughts on pursuing a career alongside this 'fringe' activity? What about having children?
I'm in a position where if I sacrifice time for work I can find myself making at least 100k net/yr. Later on down that road there's great potential that I would run my father's business which could turn me into a millionaire. I would be younger than 34 by that time. By nature of the job I would have to develop into a good orator and leader. My happiness with the work would be around 6.5/10 and there's potential to travel around the world.
Despite all that I'm conflicted. I see two paths. On one hand I want to retreat into seclusion and consume this material for however long it takes and go from there. However that would render the career path void.
should I balance work and greenpill or go full greenpill? Does the idea of children seem unnecessary to higher level green pills?
This is a serious conflict for me and I'm sorry if it comes off as a subtle brag. Truly I'm only in this position because of my father.
No.13715
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>>13714Marpa, the founder of the legendary Kagyu Lineage, was a householder with a wife.
Take that as you will
No.13716
>>13715Haha as I made that post I suddenly thoughhht of the first song on that album (entitled 24)
Then a mobile captcha came up with a sign on a house that said 24)
PS: Don't listen to that album if you're suicidal)
No.13717
>>13715Right on man, thank you for the reply :)
No.13778
>>13465you want to balance it. either strengthen others or leech that which is overactive and feed others.
which chakra in question?
>>13467stop being homeless? align yourself with another vibration, one where you are imaginative, successful and prosperous.
think it, be it.
do not wish for it, expect it, expect it to happen NOW.
You are successful. Go be yourself.
>>13478>>13576you can gather to much and it can result in physical harm (an overactive gland (chakra) in the physical body overproduces hormones and fuck you up), you're not meant to stack it, its meant to flow through you, in and out like a tidal wave. you want a strong motion, to attract and reflect.
attract by meditating, farming, whatever, spend it by exerting your will, being creative, training, working, thinking, creating a path, your path.
>>13566Mudras. Either let them come naturally or look them up.
>GarrudaIts not enough to just do the hand sign, you want to exercise/tense all the muscles related to the posture, that will open up blocks and align your body accordingly. Yes. You're supposed to snap like a twig, what is not broken can't be mended, as of now you're set in faulty mode.
No.13782
>>tense all the muscles related to the posture
Just don't overdo it, hurts like hell and can result in lasting pain.. You're realigning tendons, ligaments and bones..
Let it come as it will. A thought and you straighten your back a little, with enough conviction in the spontaneous movement and your spine will stay aligned with that emotion.
Change chairs frequently. Try every sofa you see, sit in unnatural postures only to straighten into something perfect.
Clasp your hands together and hum forcefully.
Don't let the world shape you, when you're done and your shoulders sit where they should you'll want a custom wooden chair, everything else, you will feel it, will soften you and shape you. Don't let the world shape you, you shape it.
No.13791
>>13497I'd recommend experimenting with different types of percussion audio. There are many, many quality tracks online which are easy to find and free. I began collecting about 2 years ago now so I've gathered a decent collection; I could make some specific recommendations using names, details and such but the last time I did this on a different board I was accused of advertising, so for now I will refrain unless it's requested of me. My favourite are the multiple drum tracks; they seem to be easier to use.
And FYI, they don't need to have a complicated beat, in fact I'd say the simpler ones work much faster.
No.13794
>>13580That's pretty neat. Couldn't he have made a thoughtform to read books on stuff that he wants, then absorb the knowledge?
Would there have been a way for him to copy the knowledge as opposed to stealing it?
No.13796
>>13653>>13655There's a guy on YouTube named Michael Grubb that seems legit to me.
No.13820
>>13714My choice of career will allow me to make about 100/yr as well if I pursue certain offers and eventually I plan to do just that.
I also plan to have a stable family and initiate my children into our art and possibly create a dynasty of wizards.
This path leads to so many frustrations and a very slow progress due to unavoidable mundane distractions.
A part of me just wants to flip off the world, become a disgusting NEET and practice magic all day every day.
However what I found is that on the days I'm left to myself my self control to pursue magical work is not perfect and neither is my mental endurance so I end up wasting a lot of time on rest and recreation but doing this is necessary if I want to avoid burning myself out of magical work at this stage.
I'd say balance in greenpill is a perfectly valid way to go about this since all training programs like IIH account for a 9-5 working man with a family using them.
No.13968
>>13794There's a shitload of better ways he could have done it but he went about it in the worst way, kek.
No.13971
Hey can I enhance autosuggestion by recording myself saying what I want putting it on a low volume and listen to it while I sleep and throughout the day on top of doing the saying it 40 times when you wake up and are about to sleep?
No.13990
>>13971You could but giving a suggestion is an art in itself, getting it just right, requires lots of practise. You might have to practise a long while until you're giving off the perfect suggestion with just the right tone of voice and everything. You'll also want to practise thought control. I'd consider the technique you're going for useful for some things but kind of blunt. Good thing to record it and play it while you're sleeping and not consciously paying attention or something. However it is normally preferable to actively give yourself the suggestion and just do it like in IIH or like Atkinson says about giving suggestions without some recorded thing. Your mic not even pick up subtle things in your voice / the speakers might not play it back at proper quality / the sound file format might not preserve everything either. Generally any youtube vids / recorded shit doesn't work too well and with good reason.
No.13994
>>13990That sounds like a pain in the ass. I think I will just try breaking up my sleep into a lot of naps every few hours and do the 40 times autosuggestion for every nap
No.13996
>>13994I personally wouldn't do that. This is what I'd do:
>clear mind before bed, exercise thought-control, banish any looping songs and other crap like that>attain a clear mind and an appropriate mood>give myself the suggestions>sleepYou can also do this though at random times throughout the day. People naturally give themselves suggestions a lot throughout the day. The power of a suggestion is much stronger though the deeper in trance you are, trance can be induced by rhythm, such as rhythmic breathing.
Also be aware that your environment also gives you suggestions. I found this out while in hypnosis due to melatonin overdose. Everything you see and smell suggests something to you. So keep a clean and nice environment that gives you the kind of suggestions you want when doing this and use scents that you like! Scents can also be combined with rituals via association to make certain magickal operations more efficient. Learned about that scent thing from Gnostic NYC Radio.
Doing one really powerful ritual with the right setting, right clothing, right ritual, right surroundings, right mindset, in a reasonably deep level of trance can have extremely powerful effects.
Purify your living space, your body, your mind; combine all magickal skills together. You'll be doing some really amazing things.
No.13997
i have moments of deja vu, i describe it as remembering a forgotten dream.
No.13998
No.14000
>>13996Thank you great smileberg
I have an idea of what needs to be done. Now to just get everything ready
No.14002
No.14012
>>14002u jelly breh?
When it comes to thoughtforms is it an image in your head like using your imagination in a very controlled way at will or is it supposed to be an image appearing on your closed eyelids?
>>14002 No.14014
>>14012Where is your flag?
>When it comes to thoughtforms is it an image in your head like using your imagination in a very controlled way at will or is it supposed to be an image appearing on your closed eyelids?Neither. It's a thought that forms in the mental planes and may be situated anywhere. It doesn't have to be your head or imprinted on your eyelids. It's 3-dimensional usually and also may be sensed and interacted with in more than just visual away… you can touch thoughtforms, smell them, taste them, be burned by them, etc.
No.14018
>>14014Sorry must have forgot
I'm sorry I meant to say visualizations
but that also cleared up something I was wondering about thought forms.
No.14022
>>13677I've been doing those exercises and they seem to be working for me. Also check out the guide to Hatha yoga here.
>>13636It also describes some exercises for mastering padmasana. (And more)
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No.14059
Can we get ID's on this board?
It prevents samefagging as well as shills and shitposters.
It worked really well on /pol/ and I believe it can work well here too.
No.14116
Hey, was reading through Science of Breath ( my first /fringe/ book, ( will get to theory later)
Well, I'm at the Yogic Complete Breath part,
I tried to do it, but realised that when my back is straight, I can't breathe fully(its super shallow). I can only breathe fully whilst lying down. I still tried to meditate yesterday trying to do the Yogic Complete Breath, and now my chest area is hurting.
Is this due to my screwed up posture (I'm mostly a NEET on my laptop, which is on my bed, and am always lying down sideways, left side of the body down. )
I also have always just used my belly to breathe, so maybe trying to include the chest area after so long the reason of the pain?
No.14122
>>14116do this
>take as deep a breath as you can without overdoing it, avoid uncomfortable amount>stretch/clasp hands together/mudras>exhalerepeat
another thing, if you're not doing it, tighten your abdominal muscles then inhale.
No.14125
>>14122Okay, thanks, I haven't been tightening my abdominal muscles.
No.14133
Is the magic mirror from "Three books…" worth making? Should I have any particular set of skills in order to use it?
No.14140
How do you tell the difference between a bizarre dream and a legitimate paranormal attack?
>go to bed the other night
>fucking exhausted, going to pass out any second
>decide just for shits to try to stay awake
>eyes close
>open them by strength of will
>my entire vision is covered in black spider webs
>oh shit here we go
>feel something grab my leg and gently pull me off the end of the bed
>knees on the ground, chest on the bed, unable to move
>feel myself rotated so that I'm on the long side of the bed
>I'm pushed gently towards the headboard
>suddenly I feel an invasive presence in my anus
>feels like I'm getting fucking by a giant ghost dong
>feel myself physically shaking the bed
>get fucked for an uncertain amount of time
>become unconscious
>have dreams
>wake up in bed like I was before the attack
I don't know if that was some kind of waking dream, or if I really did get raped by some sort of spirit. This has happened before, just as I lay down I'll feel myself dragged out of bed and can consciously perceive myself moving around. Once, I was thrown on my back and throat-fucked, and I could feel my throat aching when I woke up. I don't know if I'm just having crazy dreams, or if this is really happening.
No.14144
I've been doing the exercises in "Mastering Astral Projection" by Robert Bruce and I've run into trouble on day 3. In the energy part of the daily exercises, it involves creating a brushing feeling on the thumbs and big toes. I can only manage to generate a localized heaviness, even when visualizing brushing in my minds eye.
Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get past this block?(FLAG GESTAPO HAVE ABDUCTED THIS POSTER)
No.14158
>>14144You might want to use more time on those areas then, as it takes more time and energy to stimulate the energy body in the first two weeks. In the beginning, I also had to use A LOT OF time on a single area to get some feeling out of it; now that I'm on my 40th day, I can stimulate my body and warm myself in few minutes.
All I can say is, practice, practice! You need more time on stimulation before it becomes easier. Give it two or three weeks, it will become a lot smoother than it now is.
Remember that your energy body is still simulated even if you cannot feel much, so don't get discouraged! Practice, practice!
No.14163
After playing Persona 3, I've always had a mild interest in the Tarot cards. It seems that the Hermit arcana best describes me.
Is there anything in the Mega that has material on the tarot cards? If not then what are the recommended books on the topic?
No.14170
>>14163SMT:Nocturne master race.
I can't comment too much on Tarot, expect that they are intriguing. There's a chapter of them in Manly P. Hall's "Secret Teaching of All Ages", if you're interested,
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta31.htmHopefully someone more knowledgeable on the subject will help you further!
No.14185
>>13521From Montalk's Q&A
>I was wondering if you could give me anymore information on the dangers of transcendental meditation?There are different kinds of meditation, some that heighten your awareness by extending your conscious awareness into new areas, and ones that handicap your conscious awareness by obliterating it through submerging into lowered areas. The TM technique is the latter type. It involves prolonged periods of chanting mantras given to you by a trained instructor.
The problem is that it ends up being a form of self-hypnosis where you get entranced by the repetition of the mantra sound and thereby enter a reduced-awareness, submerged, highly suggestible state of mind. It’s said to be successful if you “get so deep that when you come out of it you don’t know where you’ve been for the past couple hours” — that’s very bad. It shows an obliteration of awareness, like a blackout.
I tried this for a while back in high school. It damaged my ability to stay focused and sharp, so like when giving speeches or talking to people I’d sometimes slip into this blanked-out state of mind where I just stop thinking, and so can’t continue to talk. It was a comfortable place to be, to return to, to fall back upon, but it’s a vegetative embryonic state and dangerous. For more on problems with the TM technique, take a look at suggestibility.org.
Real meditation has the opposite effect — you stay aware and become sharper, maintaining continuity of consciousness more so than ever before, rather than blacking out or becoming hypnotically suggestible. Mindfulness meditation is one. Others include becoming very good at inner visualization, of staying lucid instead of getting swayed by random thoughts, and maintaining awareness while falling asleep for instance. Rudolf Steiner wrote about that kind of meditation, see How to Know Higher Worlds, Outline of Occult Science, and Gates of Knowledge.
(NON-FLAG USER PURGED!) No.14197
>>14185>Real meditation has the opposite effect — you stay aware and become sharper, maintaining continuity of consciousness more so than ever before, rather than blacking out or becoming hypnotically suggestible. Mindfulness meditation is one. Others include becoming very good at inner visualization, of staying lucid instead of getting swayed by random thoughts, and maintaining awareness while falling asleep for instance. Rudolf Steiner wrote about that kind of meditation, see How to Know Higher Worlds, Outline of Occult Science, and Gates of Knowledge.This is what I do.
Btw, you forgot your flag.
No.14205
>>14197Have you read The Miracle of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hahn? It's all about mindfulness meditation, a very short and good read.
No.14219
>>14158Thanks man, it's fucking great to hear that.
No.14223
Is there a book or a resource I should be looking at for visualization?
I can visualize anything I want to it just lasts literally 2 or 3 seconds. Doesn't matter how complex or simple whatever I'm visualizing is it doesn't hold for longer than 3 seconds.
Should I just keep trying to visualize basic forms constantly?
No.14224
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>>14223I've heard you should start with geometric shapes, (the easier, the better) and then progress to objects with more detail.
Start simple, get complex!
No.14228
>>14226I personally find his image choice embarrassing too and would have used much better occult themed drawings of geometry.
I personally visualize basic geometric forms every single day btw as well as numbers and various objects like rocks, a glass of water, flames, etc.
No.14230
>>14228>>14226>muh seriousby the fnords, what big fags you are!
No.14233
Is it okay to meditate at night? It's 12:15am where I live.
I once watched this ninjafaggot in youtube tell me that meditating at night is dangerous..
I was quite young then but it has still stuck with me..
Is it true? Or bullshit? Convince me pls.. really want to meditate now.
No.14234
>>14233Of course you can meditate! In fact, you might even meditate better because of how calm it is at night.
Enjoy your meditation!
No.14235
No.14238
>>14234well, I'm back now. Managed to "try" to meditate for 30 minutes. ( didnt use clock or anything)
My hair started getting really itchy :/
Also, Is it bad that I'm not actually meditating fully? For example, I'll continue thinking a lot. Instead of thinking about nothing.
No.14239
>>14238If your goal is to think a lot, then it's not bad. If your goal is to focus, then you are not meeting your goal.
No.14240
>>14239Uhh..is there any benefit to thinking a lot?
Also fucking hell this runny nose doesn't help as well. Goddamn all these body problems.
No.14241
>>14238When you feel some part of your body itching while in meditation, just "note" the sensation, and then wait until it ends. You might feel, "I need to scratch this," but just wait! The itch will be gone even if you don't scratch it.
You'll learn to calm your mind the more you meditate, don't worry too much. When you find yourself thinking, stop it and focus again on meditation. If your mind keeps wandering, just repeat pulling yourself back. Observe calmly, let the thoughts come, acknowledge them, and then let them go.
It sounds easy, but it isn't… practice, practice!
At the beginning you will be distracted a lot, but the more you meditate, the less thoughts you will have that try to distract you.
As said, when thought comes and you find yourself thinking of the thought, stop it and return to the state of observing. In observing there is peace.
No.14242
>>14240Eh, I can't see any downsides.
Magick and what have you require focus. Meditating develops that focus.
This guy:
>>14241 Knows what he's talking about.
No.14244
>>14241Thanks a lot, I'll go try again.
>>14242 I see.
No.14245
>>13580I was an author before I began down this path. Compared to writing, Wizardry is eerily similiar, and only seems like a more advanced form of writing.
Funnily enough, I could not visualize at all while writing, and now I'm eager to see how that will affect my next book.
No.14251
This question is directed to Smiley, hence the flag.
You mentioned in another post that your Myers-Briggs profile (the 4-letter thing) would only be temporary if tested due to your ability to reprogram your mind, this got me thinking, how the fuck do you do that?
If you could go into more detail on that, I'd be very grateful. Possibly giving us the rundown of how you do it, or just pointing the way towards books/articles you've read that have helped you cultivate that skill.
Thanks man, Smile On.
No.14253
>>14251Seconding the question.
No.14259
Could a magician manipulate the magnetic field given off by a magnet? I figure it must be possible, but have any of you had any experiences with it?
No.14261
>>13704Yes, incredibly so.
You yourself decided to come here for a reason, as so happens, we live in interesting times and you're probably here for some intense learning, a lesson or benefitting society in the way your higher self intended, if you shamefully managed to lose your path, lose your faith, in yourself, and killed yourself, you would owe a debt of effort and energy towards those souls who made it their task to birth, raise and feed you, to those who spend energy teaching or helping you, to the one whose opportunity you stole..
Don't suicide, faggot.
No.14263
>>14259If your aura is strong enough, yes, but probably not. In theory, yes.
A magnet however, impacts upon you.
You can create tools lining hats with magnets and crystals for desired outcome(s).
No.14267
>>14116>>14122To further this, realize that when you exhale not only are you expelling air but you are drawing blood in to the lung tissue.
There are other breathing exercises in that book which will help you clear up your lungs. The more yoga you pursue the more you will realize how twisted and warped we allow our bodies to become. At the end of the day though, just keep practicing the breath, it is the natural way to breathe and your body will come in to proper operation soon enough.
No.14280
>>14251Probably would be best to use
http://freedomboard.kirara.ca/ask/, instead.
For asking Smiley, questions.
No.14281
>>14280>>14279Just did it, didn't know that board was still active!
Thanks man
No.14322
Does hell exist as the people with various near death experiences describe it? Im honestly skeptic about this, but i'd to see what you guys think and do some research.
No.14329
>>14322Errything's a plane man, you'd get there if you want to. Just like you're here in this Earth becausee of your will.
No.14357
>>14322Some imagine hell as a nightmare that one experiences continuously. Some imagine it as a state of physical being, like severe depression, a drug addiction, or an entire incarnation where a soul is subject to abuse and negativity until it is released from the body. Some others imagine hell as a place where the soul comes to be cleansed of karma before re entering the incarnation cycle after 108 consecutive incarnations.
My point; do some research, nobody can tell you what the truth is.
No.14392
>>14322What we would call 'hell' is actually a self-imposed separation from the source/all/divine. It's where you go when you're so obsessed with the physicality of this world that you can't even understand that you're dead.
No.14394
How come when I look at street lights they go out?
Also the other day I went to 3 different places and they all had malfunctionning computers (KFC was manned by Indian workers though so Maybe they didn't understand it?)
>>14392Deep. Very feel
No.14396
>>14392This was the plot of a sopranos episode!
Also sunecdoche new York
No.14422
Is doing mindfullness right after Quiet Mind meditation not recommended?
I don't really have many thoughts that pop up. I don't really feel a difference between the two with how few thoughts occur. I feel that I'm already in a state of mindfullness most of the time but I can't put it to the test since I don't feel emotion often when I do they are subdued.
No.14438
Is there a specific meditation/visualization exercise I can do to open the heart chakra?
No.14462
For chakra colors
from bottom to top
red
orange
yellow
green
blue
purple
violet
or
red
purple/violet
yellow
green
blue
gray/white
pure white
does the color even matter?
No.14464
>>14462Not sure of the bottom list, but the top list is the colors of the rainbow, in order.
No.14465
>>14462Don't think so, saw in some book that the colors differ from different times and different people. Tried to remember the book but I'm not sure, must've been some tibetan buddhism stuff.
No.14466
>>14462>>14465 here.
In a brief search I couldn't find the book that specifically says and even list the variations on the colors, but found this. They are pretty a metaphorical visual guide. So they are not actually like that, but it's helpful to give them colors.
No.14467
>>14466Forgot to say the book, it's taken from.
Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche - The Tibetan Yogas Of Dream And Sleep.
No.14476
The fuck is loosh?
No.14477
>>14476http://montalk.net/about/212/glossary#looshIt's emotions and also the life force that keeps all your cells from disintegrating.
You get loosh by inspiring raw emotions of any sort in others and especially if it's directed at you and your thoughtforms.
You get loosh from food as well. Potent sources of etheric energy (crude type of loosh) are honey, milk, blood, nectar, and cum.
Loosh can also be straight up hijacked by high level initiates who link their chakras (energy centres) up to that of another person and siphon the loosh out of that other person, usually with terrible consequences for the other person.
Note that raw loosh is the most desired. To understand read the Synchronicity pdf in the Fringe Essentials folder in the Fringe Mega. Very programmed loosh may not be as easy for the loosh farmer / vampire to use. Loosh is programmed by giving your emotions a strong and focused intent and thus placing it in a thoughtform. Those in a state of reduced awareness are easier to take loosh from then those who practise mindfulness and emotional alchemy. Sometimes highly programmed loosh is desirable too though, such as when someone gives you thoughts of healing.
Loosh is a very general term for spiritual energy. Related terms are Vril, Ether, Akasha, Mana, Chi, Prana, Astral Energy, etc. however each of these terms have their own subtle meanings that are distinct I should mention. For example Prana in particular is strongly associated with the energy one derives from the Air. Akasha is from the primordial void. Ether is everywhere in the etheric environment and has more to do with physical structures, as just about every physical thing has an etheric body that serves as the energy scaffolding for its formation. Vril refers to an energy that powers thoughts but is not thoughts and is similar in many ways to Prana except with less emphasis on it being just in the air. Mana is hard to explain but is a concept in Oceanic Shamanism and quite distinct, I might not even be analagous to loosh necessarily. Chi is usually associated with the lifeforce in the body, at least that's where the emphasis is, even though it also refers to energy in other places. Astral Energy is specifically emotions which are themselves a kind of energy that things in motion.
Pretty sure I've left out some others but I hope you get the idea. Just read up more and your understanding will increase.
No.14488
I want to make a scrying mirror but I don't want to spend a lot of money. I've been thinking of painting the inside glass of a picture frame with black acrylic paint. Any other suggestions?
No.14490
>>14488>that pro-white GETSieg Heil!
No.14493
>>14490Is it acceptable to be pro-white and discordian?
No.14499
>>14322From the Arcane Teaching:
"Their fate is a Living
Death—a conscious life in a corpse‑like body, among corpses
of the Astral. These creatures are the disembodied entities
of those who degenerated along abnormal sex lines—who
attempted to reverse the Cosmic Law of Sex Polarity, and thus
brought upon themselves the Recoil of the Life Forces. They
were the lowest of the human Satyrs. Nature finally casts over
them the spell of a deep sleep, from which they never awaken,
and from which they pass into disintegration and annihilation.
The Arcane Teaching
140
They polluted the Sacred Altar. They stole the Divine Fire for
devilish rites. They committed the Unpardonable Sin. They
removed themselves from the trend of Cosmic Evolution. Their
own Desire was their Fate. We wish it were possible to speak
plainer—but the time has not yet come."
No.14536
>>14394>How come when I look at street lights they go out?This has been happening to me also, not every time but enough for me to take notice.
Also the other night I woke up and looked at the clock on my wall, it immediately stopped ticking for a good ten seconds and then started up again.
No.14547
A british man wakes up after a car accident and is suddenly able to speak fluent french.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/12/22/barber-woke-up-from-coma-thinking-he-was-matthew-mcconaughey-and-speaking-french-4996165/If we assume memory is only the physical structure of the brain that would mean that the violent impact just so happened to rearrange the neurons in his brain into the exact structure needed to speak french, which seems a bit unlikely.
Would any /fringe/rs care to offer an alternative explanation?
No.14556
What are your guys thoughts on Theurgy
No.14561
>>14462In the book "the Holographic Universe" I remember reading something in the lines that there was a possibility that paranormal abilities or even reality itself can be very dependant on the expectations/beliefs/experiences of an individual.
So I would say that it doesn't matter, even if everything was black and white if you can work with it why would it have any effect?
No.14563
Does anyone have any resources on Buddhism for the /fringe/ minded? I've noticed it has quite a few similarities with Hermeticism, and I'm looking to learn more.
No.14585
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No.14592
While visualizing, generally to bring certain desires into reality, are the images meant to be still frame or animated.
For example you desired a specific job, do you imagine yourself in a still frame imagine in that kind of career?
No.14593
>>14592Why not both?
See how long you can hold an idea. Maximise clarity, intricacy, and the extent (ie. time) that you hold it for.
No.14595
>>14593I was kind of thinking like making a mental .gif file, continuously loop an animated thought.
No.14638
so is every1 "energy" different? just wondering…..
No.14658
When trying to manifest a job what do you do when you don't have a specific job in mind? Do you still visualize yourself doing work at various specific jobs?
No.14660
>>14658Why not manifest a gateway to adventure and magical advancement, instead? By attempting to manifest the above, using these magic words.
NOVA 2014 No.14677
No.14685
>>14660In what language is the word "2014" to be uttered?
No.14718
I've began to explore the realm and discipline of lucid dreaming after seeing Montalk's opinion on astral projection.
Questions:
1) Lucid dreams are someplace in the astral, but largely within the sphere of your own mind, correct? I recall someone here on this board posted a diagram of this showing the overlap or something.
2) Is it possible to do magickal things in the lucid dream, such as creating a sanctuary, performing rituals, visualizations, meditating, thoughtforming, self-healing, et cetera in addition to the usual lucid dream abilities?
My intuition suggests yes, and that this may be the perfect place to do so. Obviously not for anything pertaining to entities (which I have no interest in at the moment.)
No.14730
is giantess fetish a demonic temptation?
is it female demons' doing?
can it be dangerous?
are they trying to eat/absorb men's souls?
No.14801
so animals have souls right? i mean humans are animals…. so cats have souls cause i wouldnt be able to accept existence if they didnt….
No.14812
>>14801What if cats are your moms from previous lives
>>14730What if giant demonesses are your moms from previous lives? (Why boner?)
No.14813
>>14812fucking idiot
>>14730do not give in to suspected satanic temptations. they can easily bite you in the back.
consensual sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation for us.
No.14815
>>14813Your mom is satan
Happy holidays
No.14818
>>14815my mom is de- holy shit
No.14833
>>14812so im gonna take that as a yes for the soul thing, since some people say animal astral project as well.
also i hear a spirits can change the body like bark skin, does a spirit need to be of a specific power to do that?
No.14834
To Initiates and above, what does your daily practice generally consist of? How long do you meditate per day?
How much does active practice occupy your day?
I burnt myself out a while back doing LBRP and ineffective mindfulness meditation (th8nking I should restart with Bardon's thought Step 1 meditations, rather than breath observation.)
My armchair book knowledge has become an obstacle for in knowing how to restart my practice effectively… Could use some good examples to follow.
No.14840
Does anyone here know of any good beginner rituals for an aspiring neophite like myself?
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No.14848
>>14801>implying there is more than one soul in this worldEverything you see in a projection of your soul
So cats 'have' soul too, just like everything else
Think of your life as imagining the whole situation including all the people in it.
Like a role-play game where you control all the players and NPC alike.
No.14865
>>14834even with armchair knowledge start visualizing things, keep your mind clear for extended periods of time, after that focus on visualizing numbers without "saying" them, add colour to them, spin them, do chakra meditations, visualize a forest to a point where you forget about your real body and walk through it, feel the fresh air, feel the rough tree trunks and the soft touch of grass under your feet, hear the sound of the river and the songs of birds flying overhead.
after that start absorbing some energy, imprint purpose into that energy to fix your physical imperfections, stimulate your energy body, try to transfer your point of awareness from your head to your arm or leg and feel the objects in your room as they are in relation to that body part.
transmute your emotions into something more pleasant, don't let mundane shit get to you, be the master of your inner world.
No.14866
No.14868
Can any wizards respond to this book?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descartes%27_Error:_Emotion,_Reason,_and_the_Human_BrainI am very open to the fringe and i have read the Kybalion, working on the rest of the 'starting' books. Recently i read this book, however, and have become a bit more skeptical.
No.14869
Okay i've been wanting to ask a question, but i couldn't phrase it well but here goes.
1. I've been having trouble with my self lately. It's hard to describe, but i'm feeling kind of depressed, so i try to be the happy "me". Usually i do this by conjuring up thoughts that say i shouldn't /try/ to be my self, because that's unachieveable; it's something that happens spontaneosly.
Sometimes i would try to think that im just making up those two sides of myself, and that thoughts won't make me any different. But i see now the evidence is here. In the past it worked, but now i can't get rid of the depression.
2. When i was in that state of "not depressed", i didn't feel like i needed magic. I totally forgot about it, i enjoyed the material side of life. But looking back, i was looking to magic for an tool to help myself; it couldn't work because i didn't have the motivation to keep reading - it felt empty and meaningless.
I don't understand the situation im in. I even read some books by some new age author which said the key is to live in the now, which i done too but the depression just kept hitting me back. If someone could help me, please do.
No.14872
>>14718>My intuition suggests yesThen try it, and report back so others may learn from your experience.
No.14873
>>14842Between this and the other poster, that's a lot of material to keep me interested. Thanks.
No.14874
>>13569Mathematics and philosophy.
No.14915
>>14834>what does your daily practice generally consist of? *Mindfulness practice during all waking hours, *writing down dreams every single morning, *sexual transmutation, *Egyptian pranayama, practicing manipulating my own aura, *elemental pathway opening/strengthening, *visualization, stimulating the major chakras, *stimulating the minor chakras, hatha yoga for kundalini, visualization, *energy breathing, and facilitating flow of energy through ida nadi and pingingala nadi, to keep my solar and lunar pathways open.
Although I sometimes do not do ALL of these in one sitting, 5/7 days of the week I do them all. My usual practice time is always the same regardless. (* is done every day)
>How long do you meditate per day?Including Mindfulness meditation and tumo, I average about 20-25 minutes of mindfulness meditation and 10-15 of tumo, planning to up that soon.
>How much does active practice occupy your day?About 45 minutes in the morning and 90 minutes at night. If my room mates aren't all home during the day, I usually get about two hours of mindfulness meditation in on top of that.
Bardon's methods are great. I used them when I started IIH even though I was already an experienced meditater. I feel that everyone that works through Initiation into Hermetics should read The Miracle of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hahn to catalyze the practices of personality balancing and meditation.
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No.14922
I was doing mindfullness meditation will laying down on my bed I was doing it for about 50 minutes
I stopped suddenly and moved my head to left with my eyes still closed and I felt a light feeling of what I would describe as a puff of air coming out all at once from my third eye and the front of my bed where my head was laying shook it felt like someone was holding the mattress up inches above and dropped it
What happened?
No.14931
Could the Principle of Gender be seen as an application of the Principle of Polarity? It seems to imply that everything has it's two poles (masculine and feminine) that, while not opposed, are not fully in agreement.
No.14956
>>14931I do not think thats the case.
The principal of gender has one "goal", and thats creation. The masculine/positive attracts the femaline/negative, and starts a process that creates something.
I dont think the principle of polarity applies here since when you have two certain objects or energies, "object a" will always be positive to "object b", and vice versa. And that is not something that can be "reconciled" or switched around. However I think its possible for "object a" to be negative to an "object c". Since it was stated that everyone/thing possesed both "genders".
One example I think that is using the principle of gender is the law of gravity. Organism being the negative and our planet the positive. What the result or "product" is of this process I do not know. But I remember a few sources saying that we (organism) are food for the moon (montalk also has a section about it iirc) which could be it.
But i'm just a neophyte so take it as you want.
No.14970
How does someone interact with spirits? I've only read up on hermetic philosophy, but I've heard you guys talk about meeting them in the astral. I can't astral project, but if everywhere is mental, shouldn't I be able to meet another being at my current state of consciousness? If this is true, how would I go about meeting a spirit in my current state?
No.14972
>>14970To meet them you'd have to enter another state of consciousness in order to create a thoughtform that lets you connect with them. Montalk describes how in the psychomantium article:
http://montalk.net/notes/psychomantium No.14974
>>14972I think I've actually done that before, I used to stare at the floor in the dentist's waiting room and get crazy hallucinations. I never saw any spirits though. The article talks about using a weird setup - can't this consciousness be deliberately attained through just covering the eyes and playing static? Or is there something extra to montalk's method? Thanks for the link, too.
No.14978
>>14972>>14974I think I understand their method a bit more now after reading it over - again, thanks for the help.
No.14980
No.14986
In what ways can magical knowledge be practiced? What are the most simple/basic practices that a neophyte could attempt?
No.14987
>>14986Read the FAQ at the start of this thread. Those books answer your question.
>What are the most simple/basic practices that a neophyte could attempt?The first steps given in
Initiation Into Hermetics, the practises given in N
ew Energy Ways, and the practises given in
The Science of Breath. No.14988
>>14980Are you frustrated about something?
Also; how the fuck did you even use Oekaki? I can't see that as an available option for me.
No.14989
>>14987Oh, I see, I've only read the first 3 for a basic background on hermetics. Are there any specific exercises that are easy to see if they work or not? Just to gauge how far I'm progressing.
No.14990
>>14989Depends on what you want to do. You need to develop yourself in all areas you know and then combine all the different stuff. How new exactly are you? I reckon you must already do some basic energy work, void meditation, etc. right? You can check out
The Book of Knowledge for some basic practises too.
No.14991
>>14990I've never really done meditation according to a manual, I always just lay in bed unthinking until I could hear my subconscious saying random things. I also lucid dream occasionally as a side effect. My reading efforts were only ever about hermetic philosophy and it made sense to me fairly well. How far along is that, still very new?
No.14992
>>14991I'd say stop worrying about how far along you are. If you're asking questions like this, yeah you're still very new lol.
Just keep practicing and keep reading.
Also, use flags.
No.14993
>>14992I'll check out the rest of the books, thanks.
No.14995
A closed thread question that never seemed to appear here: Addictions, I presume that there are quite a few wizards that conquered or are strugling with it.
So I would appreciate any reactions on this.
I myself am sensitive to addictions, but trying to kick them one by one. The bigger ones (smoking, fapping and weed) I intend to ban out somehow after I'm more learned in the occult, now im just focusing on getting a good routine on /fringe/ related topics and practices, regardles of my addictions.
No.15006
Isn't this board supposed to have Oekaki?
Why isn't it working for me?
No.15014
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How badly can sigilized arts affect me?
I mean, I save some of them, I want to know if I'm placing myself in some kind of unknown danger or something.
Pic related, one example.
No.15016
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No.15017
>>14995I never smoked and drink like once or twice a year, lust is my only "addiction" right now.
A thread on /pol/ has convinced me to attempt no fap 2015 as short term goals end up with me literally counting days and anticipating the day when I can finally ejaculate my stress filled loosh away.
I can go for a month without fapping but there's no point if it remains in my mind at all.
My method of dropping this in 2015 will be making a pact with my higher self or another entity that will reward me if I remain celibate and punish me if I break my wow. I suggest you do the same for your addictions as the fear of punishment will keep your hand away from your dick, smokes and weed.
Good luck anon, and above all believe in your power of will being in control of your body, not the other way around.
No.15018
>>15014It depends on the sigil, if hundrends of people have seen it, the sigil stops being as effective as it would be if one man made it and only one other has seen it.
There really is no point in collecting these as far as I know as you don't even know their purpose and it's unlikely that someone made sigils that will benefit everyone who looks at them.
No.15019
No.15026
>>15018Thanks, I have no intended purpose for collecting, I just like to download art and put them in the same folder, but I noticed the most recent ones had lots of sigils, but they are quite popular so I guess there's no harm in them.
No.15054
I have the complete Manly Palmer Hall lecture series, and id like to contribute it to the mega. How do I go about doing that?
No.15056
>>15054Well, you might post the files in a RAR. or ZIP. package, and then you should ask Smiley if he could add it for you.
No.15057
>>15055It isn't slavery if its self imposed, it's discipline.
No.15069
When Jesus refers to the Father in the Gospel of Thomas, is it what the hermeticists refer to as the ALL ?
Thanks
No.15085
Can someone help me figure out what this is?
Feels like electricity crawling over my body, but it is not electricity or static electricity. However it seems to be related to electricity somehow, as it will concentrate in areas where their is potential for static electricity on my body. It will swirl into balls. It is not originating on the nervous system, because the balls of energy or flow can cross right over from one leg to another or go even off my body onto an object and be picked up again. There is no sparking, and so zaping like with static electricity.
I notice this stuff around me all the time and a big huge ball of it tends to just come out of fucking nowhere when i am having negative thoughts, but I can dispel it by thinking up thoughtforms forms to combat it.
I have no control over it's flow, it moves like a current of water without gravity. It flows into fractal swirls as it disperses.
No.15087
How do I find the willpower to snap out of this hedonistic lifestyle?
I'm addicted to caffeine and can't curb my lust.
Also too lazy to meditate.
No.15089
>>14988>>15006>OekakiGOD FUCKING DAMMIT
Why isn't oekaki working on any of the boards?
No.15093
>>15087There is no try, only do. - Yoda
Just do it.
No.15100
I don't know how to describe this fully but I have reason to believe I may have a negative entity or partially possessed or a really persistent negative thought form or something.
see I'm unsure if there is foul play or this is just naturally what an untrained mind is like. It wasn't always like this but for years almost as long as I can remember my "mind" has been fighting me hard not in a can't stay focused on something way but whatever I want to do it does the opposite in a way that tries to harm me
it seems to speak in my head saying insults about me.
It is always fighting me in my mind for everything doing things it seems just to spite me. Also there are periods of time where it seems to take control of my physical body but only slightly like influencing more than controlling exact movements. Mentally it is malicious in physical influence its more mischievous. Physically it happens sometimes when I'm not in complete awareness. Mentally it happens when I try to do anything with thought.
it seems to go far beyond what could be explained by simply an untrained mind or "mental illnesses"
I also don't think it is an alternate personality
I was in meditation for about an hour and it had a strong negative effect on what thoughts happened. I think this has a lot to do this time with how I ate that night real shitty food it was the only factor that changed versus other days. So things that make me weaker temporarily make it stronger temporarily
What should I do?
No.15123
>>15085Just sounds like energy, man. I do energy work and have similar feelings, but with a bit more control.
Go take a look at Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways, or perhaps his Mastering Astral Projection if you want a little something extra with your energy work.
No.15139
I recently started reading Initiation Into Hermetics, but I'm already stuck on the first exercise, "Thought Control".
I'm pretty terrible at deciphering symbolism, and I don't really have any idea what it wants me to do, or what my goal should be.
If I just relax and close my eyes and wait for thoughts, I just sorta don't think about anything, and nothing happens.
Am I missing a step, or am I supposed to keep doing that until something does happen?
No.15141
>>15139You might find this enlightening. Listen to Rawn Clark's lecture on Step One:
http://www.abardoncompanion.de/Lecture/index.html And also read his commentary:
http://www.abardoncompanion.de/CommentariesLinks.html No.15143
No.15144
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>>15087You will only ever do exactly what you want to be doing, anon. You merely want to want a pure lifestyle, and so you do.
No.15145
>>15100I have experienced, and passed through this exact trial.
You are at war with your sub-conscious mind. There is no negative entity, save for the one you have created. You are behaving in a manner which is at direct odds with your other mind's desires. As you are learning, no doubt, it would be more appropriate to call yourself the sub-conscious mind and it the greater, conscious mind.
If I may offer some wisdom, as one who had struggled with this for over a decade, and overcome it. When you are a child, your mind is in one large chunk. Then, sometime around 6-8 years of age, you created a new personality, to deal with the growing demands of the outside world. Thus freed of such obligations, you retreated into the more interesting task of controlling the body's internal mechanisms, and existing in the world of imagination. From such a vantage point, does your higher self watch you.
Now, you, the subconscious mind, have been tasked with feeling pain. That is, more or less, your primary function. You also control where the body is, who it talks too (but not always what it says), and ensuring that the body remains in a safe and healthy environment. You are not given much help by your conscious mind, which views your struggles through the world as distasteful, and your methodology frustrating.
Anon, figure out a way to communicate. It's not a demon. It's not an evil spirit. It is your mind, and I would hate to see you struggle longer than you have too because you are letting your head be filled with nonsense.
No.15166
>>15145Not the OP, but do you have any tips on how to begin this communication?
I'm also interested in learning more.
thanks
No.15169
What does it mean to have a pulling feeling from a chakra? A pull that when focused on can feel very strange, almost painfull.
No.15173
>>15166IN the palace of the mind. there is not sorrow. heaven in enlightenment. free yourself from interpersonal bonds no matter how demanding. if you had at least been aware of /fringe/ pre 8chan then your mind is guiding you already.
of course you could be the disconnected type of man; and wish to turn to the life of the cloak to mask your shame and lack of vigor. However id wager most of those louts are somewhere on reddit or or just finding /x/ on 1/2chad.
I rarely post due to my instinctual aversion to making conjecture out of the constant. however you should listen to your fears. for they are the borders of the realms.
No.15175
>>15166I'm not the poster above, and I might have a different school of thought on the matter, but here's my advice.
Another way to think of the "higher" and "subconscious" mind is to divide the functions of mind into 4 sections (this system comes from the yogic ideas of mind).
1.buddhi- This is your discriminating, deciding, "judgement", this aspect understands right and wrong, and can be trusted to act as the "higher mind". You can almost think of this as your idealized self, free from greed, selfishness, and malice.
2.ahamkara- Your ego, or "lower mind". Concerned with "i-ness", feels separated from others, and is mostly concerned with survival and the fulfilling of needs. This aspect of mind is generally what feels pain, loss, and desire.
3.chitta- Your memories, where you store impressions you've accumulated during your life. Basically a record where your experiences are written down, and also recalled back into awareness. A dog bite you when you were young? This impression comes back out of the chitta to influence you once you encounter a dog later in life. These impressions can be dealt with to lessen their affect. Partly responsible for biases and aversions.
4.manas- The interpreter of sensory input. Directly interacts with the external world, actions and speech come from manas. This aspect of mind usually takes direction from either the ego, or the higher mind, but can also act on its own in a purely reactionary way.
I'm no expert in these subjects, only a student. If you want to gain better cohesion between the aspects of mind, you must spend time identifying these segments within yourself. Observe your actions, speech, and thoughts, try to figure out where they originate from. Is a thought you are having based on ego, and the idea that you are an individual with possessions and needs? Is it based on impressions learned from experiences? Is it simply a reaction? Or is it an intelligent, aware discernment based on reason and wisdom?
Learning to communicate and generate cohesion between the different aspects of self leads to awareness, responsibility, control and discipline.
No.15177
>>15173>>15175Thank you, these are both great responses.
Yes I was aware of /fringe/ on freedomboard, and I am aware of my thoughts and try to find their origin within my mind during the day, although not as frequently as I'd like.
jak zabo I thank you for coming out to speak with me, your post was truly insightful
Zimmer, same goes to you.
I feel blessed to have two tripfags responding to my post
No.15179
/fringe/ everytime I fap I find myself asking "why did I just do that…. What was the point…"
How do I stop fapping?
I know, "Just do it."
But does anyone have any experience with this that they can share? Any magickal ideas?
I just thought of creating a thoughtform which transmutes my sexual desire into something else productive towards my goals of enlightenment, but I suck at visualization and have never made a thoughtform before. Any ideas?
No.15183
>>15179It's tough, no doubt about that. It helps to be clear about exactly why you want to stop fapping, and deal with the root of the desire for sexual pleasure. I stopped masturbating and attempted to re-direct my bodily desires to get in closer union with the divine/collective/god/higher-self/etc.. Having a goal in mind that doesn't allow a place for bodily desire helps immensely.
You also must change your habits, even ones not related to sexuality, cultivate a detachment to pleasure itself. Start a meditation practice if you haven't already. You need to be able to exist in a state of mind that can observe the mechanisms of your sexuality objectively. Inspect yourself and the workings of your mind. Also don't be too hard on yourself if you slip off your path. Be determined.
It's possible, remember that. Also, don't test yourself when you're starting out. Keep yourself away from images, situations, etc.. that can trigger that desire. It sounds negative, but you'll eventually build up a resistance to arousal.
Good luck! I'm talking more about the philosophy of physical detachment here, and there's specific practices I use, but I'm a yogi. That might not be your path.
No.15190
>>15183Zimmer, could you please recommend me some reading material on yogic philosophy, if it isn't too troublesome? I have practiced Hatha Yoga for some time now, and I feel that I should pursue yoga more "in-depth".
I am about to read Bhagavad Gita, the Upanishads and Autobiography of a Yogi. Is there something else you could recommend me, be it books or websites perhaps? Thank you.
No.15192
>>15190I can recommend some things, certainly. You've got a fine base with those three books so far, If you can wait till tomorrow ill post some things in this thread. For now i've gotta get some sleep, be at peace fellow seeker!
No.15194
>>15192Of course, I hope you'll sleep well, dear friend!
No.15204
How exactly does one initiate themselves? i have yet to come across in my studies of the definition for this.
No.15208
Hello i have a tulpa, hes is an alicorn and whenever i see him i get a bonner and I am A Devout christian, Would haveing sex with him go against The law of god and jesus, and are there any spells to become invisible to jesus so he cannot see me have sex with my tulpa?
No.15209
>>15208Jesus is a thought form. If you really believe in him you are probably going to meet him when you die by virtue of a billion people conjuring him up every day unintentionally.
That said peoples beliefs are all over the map. I want to say what you believe is what he is. But it is not quiet that simple. What others believe can affect what you believe also. So if you believe you are hurting Jesus by doing this than you probably are. If you don't think so than go for it. Don't lie to yourself though. You have to convince or believe it to be true first.
No.15212
So I have been practicing the exercises in Science of Breath, and I am surprised at how pleasant the sensations I get are. Is it meant to feel so good? With how easily these sensations are achieved, why do you think pranayama isn't more widespread? It would appear that any individual can feel the benefits without any serious time investment.
No.15221
>>15183>>15192Fapper here, I definitely feel at home with the Yogi and Oriental philosophies, even being from the West and indoctrinated into its culture. So I'd love to hear about these books and exercises. Maybe we should create our own discussion thread?
Thanks man, hope you had a good night's rest (:
No.15245
Board owner: why don't you delete threads instead of locking them? That way more productive threads don't get pushed out of existence. Or turn on unlimited page count.
No.15262
>>15245Is there a book on the process by which a thoughtform becomes a material object?
I've already read "Magical uses for thought forms", and am burning through the wizard mega.
No.15266
Hey wizards, my girl found this at her place the other day. Not sure if it's a prank left by the old tenant or if it's something more.
I'd greatly appreciate your insight, thanks. Might get another picture soon.
No.15267
Is A Priori Reasoning greenpilled?
>My own answer to the question is yes - If the greenpill is about rejecting positivism and materialism as misguided, dogmatic and simplistic neo-religiosity. The very existence of A Priori knowledge such as Mathematics and Austrian Economics that doesn't need empirical evidence, because it is true in virtue of the axioms that it builds on holding. Only there do you need empirical evidence. This is why positivism is misguided.
No.15288
is giantess fetish a demonic temptation?
is it female demons' doing?
is it dangerous?
No.15289
>>15288No, it means you need to stop jerking off, get outside for a minimum of four hours regardless of the weather, and just think about stuff.
Meditate, only if you feel like it. If you can discipline yourself to be without entertainment for four hours, outside, then you will find your answer to the question.
No.15366
/Fringe/,who are fomors?
No.15367
Why was >>15147 deleted? It was the thread on the statue found on mars.
No.15373
>>15194>>15221Ok, I'm back with some recommendations. I uploaded some pdf's to my google drive so anyone can access them with the links.
First off, two different formats of the Yoga Sutras by patanjali:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Dkq42xcs91TG9hc2FUeEdKSDg/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Dkq42xcs91STBQcWdsMkp4YlU/view?usp=sharingRemember though that the yoga sutras are not meant to be a manual for students to learn from, but more of a curriculum or overview of Raja yoga teachings. They require a lot of extrapolation to be understandable and practically applied. I would recommend you try and find the book "Core of the Yoga Sutras" by B.K.S. Iyengar (It's a good text for a more complete understanding of the sutras), and also listen to some lectures by Swami Rama, which you can find in a website ill introduce shortly.
Next is the Hatha Yoga Pradipika:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Dkq42xcs91MTlQNnZEOU1MVGc/view?usp=sharingThis book gives a good overview of the hatha yoga system. It also is not a practice manual, do not just take whats in the pradipika and do what it says. Look at it as a historical account of the system.
Next are texts based on the teachings of a himalayan yogi named Swami Rama:
1. An overview of his teachings, a good introduction into the more subtle aspects of yogic thought and practice:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Dkq42xcs91UXNyZ08xOHdWYWs/view?usp=sharing2. A book written by said yogi dealing with "self-enlightenment":
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Dkq42xcs91VnVrZDdSSmd6QWs/view?usp=sharingNow as for other books, B.K.S. Iyengar wrote a very well put together book on pranayama, which I consider very important reading. "Light on Pranayama", It's a good manual for understanding and practicing breath/prana control. It also has useful info on philosophy and general yoga practice.
No.15374
Also, don't be afraid to look to books that aren't necessarily "yoga" texts, "The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying" by Sogyal Rinpoche and "Shambhala, The Sacred Path of the Warrior" by Chogyam Trungpa are very useful books relating to the tibetan buddhist systems, which I consider close siblings of older Indian yoga.
Also here in the west, the man known as Ram Dass wrote a good little book "Be Here Now", which is a nice introduction to yogic life and thought. Although he isn't a yogi in the strict sense of the word, its a nice book to have. (just be aware that he shouldn't be taken as an authority on practices such as asanas, pranayamas, etc..)
Now for websites:
First, there is a website dedicated to the teachings of Swami Sivananda (
https://www.sivananda.org) Take a look around it, there's some good info there.
Now for the real doozy lol. (
http://www.swamij.com) This website might just be the best resource on the internet for information on "higher" yogic practice. There's tons and tons of information here, some of which probably cannot be found anywhere else besides from a teacher with a firm grasp of the knowledge. Be patient when going through this site, it can seem a little overwhelming at first, but if you stay level-headed and determined, you can learn a lot. Here you can find links to youtube lectures from Swami Rama, I highly recommend them.
The Bhagavad Gita and Upanishads are great books to have. They give a great grounding in the basic philosophy of the yogic way of life.
Autobiography of a Yogi is also a valuable book. Yogananda, the author, will not actually teach you many of the practices he references, but gives the reader a first hand look into the life of someone who dedicates themselves fully into a life of yoga (meaning divine union). Just a hint: he will talk of "kriya yoga" many times, and will state that it can only be learned first hand by an accomplished yogi. This is true in most cases, but the swamij.com website can lead you to those practices normally thought of as "secret".
There may be more things I could recommend, but that should be good for now. As for specific exercises for controlling sexual desire? Thats a whole other topic. If one dedicates themselves to a life of spiritual attainment, that control will come. Specific exercises would not be of much use if the underlying principles are not adhered to.
Also a word of caution: Be extremely cautious and discerning when learning and reading about yoga, and be very aware of the effect different translations can have on the meaning of certain texts. Also do not automatically adopt practices and exercises as you see them in books. Yoga was never meant to be learned independently in a scholarly way. There is a good reason why the role of a guru has been so important. With that said, many of us have no choice if we want to learn, most yoga "classes" do not teach or even understand what yoga is. I am not a guru, or an expert, simply a dedicated student who is attempting to live the principles and practices of traditional yoga (which is a means to achieve direct experience of and union with God/Creator/the collective soul of everything/whatever you want to call it).
No.15390
so how do i lucid dream without sleep pralysis?
No.15393
What can be achieved with the Ganzfeld proceedure? Has anyone had any experience with it before?
No.15396
Has anyone who is familiar with Robert Bruce's Mastering Astral Projection, or anyone who has tried this breathing exercise experienced crazy energy feelings from it? I can feel energy in my hands, behind my eyes, in my third eye, sub-navel chakra and coursing through my body while doing it. The intensity of it is breathtaking.
Additionally, has anyone become sore from energy work the next day? I know it's not from physical exertion, I squat 300lbs and I have to take a week of time off from working out due to an injury. And after doing the leg bouncing for a few hours, I woke up with sore legs the next day. It did not, however, feel like regular soreness.
No.15397
>>15396Forget pic of breathing exercise.
No.15399
>>15373>>15374What do you think of the books written by William Walker Atkinson's alias?
He has written a book on Hatha and Raja Yoga.
No.15416
Is there an actual difference between Witches, Sorcerers, Mages, Wizards, Warlocks and so on?
No.15434
does the universe protect itself from being destroyed by mystical means? like say i find something in universe x that could could a outbreak of something? does the universe protect itself?
No.15444
I'll be commiting suicide soon.
Does achieving egohood help me in a nicer reincarnation?
No.15449
>>15373>>15374Thank you for these thorough posts, friend, I really appreciate it!
No.15452
>>15374You have addressed somewhat what I wanted to ask.
In yoga it is pretty much a requirement to have a guru. In kriya yoga it says that Yogananda Paramahansa is the last guru for kriya yoga and that the guru is the teachings written down. Is there specific books for kriya yoga for this
No.15453
>>15444You wouldn't kill yourself if you had egohood
No.15456
I've been harassed for the past year by a great variety of creatures whenever I astral project. All they do is restrain me and try to stop me from moving, until I'm back in my body.
Has anyone else gotten this? Everyone gets an ambush once in a while, but I mean literally every time you project into your own bedroom.
No.15461
their magic systems.
No.15463
>>15444Egohood is the will to be, the I Am. It's required to survive for long after death.
>>15453It seems he wants his true self to survive, just hates his current personality. He'd need to develop the first though.
No.15465
>>15434also another question i have even though the 1st is unanswered,if there is a infinite amount of universes and if there is wouldn't that mean there are no true "original creators?"
No.15466
>>15396nice to see another wizard who's /fit/.
what you've experienced is your excited energy body.
it's perfectly normal and you'll experience those sensations every time you do energy work to some extent.
when visualizing something it's common to feel the tingling in your third eye.
keep at it, if all you feel is light tingling you're on the right track.
Not entirely sure about your legs being sore but those might just be some energy blockages in your legs. after further energy work that stiffness won't appear and longer.
No.15468
>>15465I can't remember which book I read it in but apparently there's been cases where wizards went nuts and started fucking with the fabric of reality and certain entities swooped in and stopped them.
I'm not an expert on the infinite universes but I'd imagine in all of them they stem from the same great source of energy or God or whatever you chose to call it. When you start thinking about the fact that there are infinite universes and then add time travel to the mix it just really fucks with your human mind so I tend not to dwell on it.
No.15471
>>15468agreed i just like to think of all the possibility, and all the dumb shit you could do easily if you exploited it, but to be honest i would just somewhere else you know some universe where i could let loose so to say….
No.15477
Is it possible to do that $1,000,000 challenge to demonstrate magical abilities?
No.15482
What is Thaumaturgy? Has anybody practised it or have any knowledge on the subject?
No.15484
If we can astral project to any other plane, how come beings from other planes can't astral project to earth?
No.15487
>>15484Maybe they can. Almost every culture has a myth relating to Demons, Ghosts or other worldy creatures.
No.15491
>>15468sauce? also infinity is self contradictory.
No.15492
Did you guys get rid of that insane board owner yet? The one who went around trolling other boards for "loosh" and acting like a massive autist whenever anyone shitposted here and shit? I left because of that guy, he brought a lot of trouble here.
I only ask because he seemed pretty adamantly against having any rules and you have rules now so I figured something must've finally changed.
No.15494
>>15466Hey man, we gotta keep the muscle wizard masterrace alive.
No.15496
>>15491i wonder if its possible to create a physical body in other realities….
No.15515
Found this brilliant shit recently:
rickrichards.com
I took a while to browse this, and it seems like a lot of truth, but drenched in bullshit. My question is, to others who've taken a look at this guy's work: How would you rate this in terms of being a source for fringe information? Great or awful?
No.15523
Is it possible to harm someone or protect myself with magick?
If so, is there any books I should read?
No.15529
Smiley, why is there a nazi symbol in the lower right corner of /fringe/?
No.15531
yeeee
No.15532
>>15399>>15452I think I'll start a thread specifically for the discussion of Yoga, this thread is a little too chaotic! I'll put the thread up and address these questions later on today.
No.15589
>>15523Most of the books in the fringe library deal in STO magic which includes protecting and healing yourself and other people.
This also means since all the authors are moralfags they never put any tutorials on harming people.
My suggestion is research what kind of energy would heal people and then think what would be the opposite of that energy.
>>15529Didn't you get the memo? This is a nat soc order of wizards with ties to /pol/.
No.15595
>>15589>This also means since all the authors are moralfags they never put any tutorials on harming people.The /fringe/ library has a ton of methods for harming others with magick.
No.15596
If there is any chance to add some books to the Great Library, maybe add Neville Goddard's The Law and the Promise? I read it and it was great, it gives some real-life stories on how people have used the Law of Attraction to manifest what they have desired, using their imagination with all senses involved, etc. It also explains what some Bible verses "really" mean, (at least how Neville has interpreted them). Also mentions of Kundalini, astral-projection (like materializing before a someone close you thought of really hard), etc.
No.15600
>>15596What do you mean by The Great Library?
No.15602
>>15600I meant the mega folder. Maybe "the Great Bookshelf" is better, considering how little books there are there, (but there's pretty much all the books you need to get started on wizardry, so I'm not complaining).
No.15604
>>15477It's possible to demonstrate abilities, winning the challenge - not so. Randi has supposedly constructed the rules in such a way that he can choose weather something would be "possible" through magic and deserves to be tested and if something succeeds, if it was magical. You literally can not objectively win it.
TL;DR Randi is full of shit.
>>15492>Disliking smiley>Smiley putting you off of researching magic on your own with the material available.kek
Can't hate the guy who made /fringe/ and shared his library.
No.15607
How to create a stimulation of a sensory experience, e.g. getting your dick sucked. Lips around your dick etc. Any experience with this? Read about neurosomatic circuit as well
No.15611
Why do people die in threes?
No.15662
No.15667
No.15674
>>15596I really like that book too.
Smileberg should add it to the sticky under.the LOA section
No.15676
>>15674Do you not realize that Neville Goddard's book has been in the /fringe/ mega library for years now?
No.15684
>>15676Years??
Also whys there a spinning star on my screen. Plz remobe. Verylaggy
No.15695
Is clarity of visualization as important as strength of emotion? (sorry if this doesn't make much sense). I can make my emotions feel strong if I focus for a while, but closed eyes visualization is always blurry and makes me too sleepy to continue.
No.15706
>>15695I have the same problem, except instead of blurry visualisaton, mine is very choppy. Like a series of disconnected images. It has very little flow outside of the emotions which tie it all together.
>>15684>adblock plus No.15711
hey frigne
what's the angriest you've ever been in your life.
green text would be nice but I'll accept any answer.
No.15712
>>15711>all the mistakes in that postI need some sleep
No.15719
>>15711When I figured out my slutty girlfriend was fucking my "best friend".
I saw red.
>speaking of redwould destroy that redhead's pussy
No.15744
>>15695>>15706Keep practicing. If closed-eye makes you sleepy, do it open-eye. If the image changes (choppiness) or is lost, reassert the original image.
I used to have very weak, blurry, and unstable visualization, now I am much better at it. Do at least a half hour each day of quality work.
No.15750
>>15744Thanks Anon. Think it's worth starting with shapes and numbers or should I just practice the things I'd normally visualize?
No.15756
>>15750It's easier to gauge your progress with abstract shapes, but it's fine to visualize a variety of things as long as you hold each for at least 10 minutes.
You may be able to visualize the entirety of the number two, but how sharp is it, how strong is your sight?
Or you can visualize increasingly complex patterns until you can hold the entire thing at once.
No.15757
>>15744>>15756Thanks for the advice.
My visualisation is choppy because basically the only visualisation I do is sexual mental suggestion AKA seeing myself performing sexual acts with the one whom I want to influence. Therefore its not one image but rather an event that is unfolding, albeit in a fractured/choppy way.
Sounds like I should just practice some casual visualisation before trying this again.
Thanks again anon
No.15759
Hi, /fringe/. Recently I've had an influx of "prophetic dreams", I guess. I would have them, and some time later in life, the exact same events would happen, except with an onset of intense dread. One of the dreams troubled me a bit too much to comfort, and discussed it with a psychological therapist. He encouraged me to delve a bit deeper with this, and lucid dream in order to find out more about it.
However, I've heard bits and scraps from different sources about lucid dreaming and it having connections with some other shit that I don't want to mess with. I also have concerns about messing with something that's so beyond me.
Please ease me into this, I'm kind of terrified out of my mind and wouldn't have entertained the thought of visiting /fringe/ unironically a week ago.
Sorry if this is too much of a blog post.
No.15763
>>15456 here again
I want to know why I've been targeted and if someone else has had a similar experience. For the past year, every time I project into my surroundings I am intercepted by creatures which restrain me until I go back into my body. I can't communicate with them; they mostly seem to be purpose-built servitors. I only have two clues. The first is that whenever I defeat one wave of servitors, the next batch will be stronger and specifically built to avert that weakness.
The second is one occasion when I destroyed an astral potted plant after it attempted to strangle me. It was placed in a place where I spend a lot of time. Immediately after destroying it a man appeared, threw me to the ground, and kicked me in the gut a few times. I did not recognize him.
I know I'm not the one doing it, I've had nothing to do with occult societies, I haven't done anything in the astral to piss someone off this much. I'm at a loss. I believe I'm able to get rid of them but I'm still searching for the meaning behind it.
No.15773
Is it possible to bring a thoughtform (such as a tulpa) with you into a lucid dream or astral projection?
I imagine that could be pretty helpful for either.
No.15774
>>15595indeed it does but the literature that is commonly recommended doesn't
No.15777
>>15759Take the greenpill. The MEGA library is in the sticky.
No.15778
No.15813
>>14205>>14915I want to thank you for suggesting Thich Nhat Hanh's book on mindfulness. I had used law of attraction to guide me on maintaining a control upon my mind, and your book suggestion followed soon after. I am now practicing, and I can see immediate results, something that I lacked and which was worrying me.
Thank you and blessings.
No.15816
what's a good book for tarot?
No.15832
No.15836
>>15816Wang's qabalistic tarot
No.15845
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>>13658I have studied more since I made this post.
Now, I know I was born to do this. The laws and principals of the arcane are burned onto my spirit, and every book I read only draws my attention to things I have already known.
Thank you, all you who have participated here and spread this knowledge. I feel as though I am finally home.
No.15849
Can aping work as a substitute of sleep?
Can I ap 8 hours a day and not sleep, or do I have to ap and then sleep?
No.15853
Friends, I can never argue properly and complain about whats on my mind, but I can only say I feel wronged, I feel wronged by my family, ever since my father's death they've been hard ignoring me.
And I suspect they've been gossiping hard about me and my mother, today I went to talk to my uncle, who happens to be a pastor.
I wanted to ask him to pray for my future ( I'm not Christian, just that I remember him taking care of me really well when I was a kid) when I got to him, he pretended not to know me. I know they've been ignoring me and my mom for over a year, I didn't expect this. He even asked "What's your name" …
I know the cause' of this, there's this other uncle, his wife does some sort of hindu black magic, and this "righteous Christian uncle" also happens to have made a prostitute from Thailand pregnant kek.
This is the uncle I remember when my dad was not well and after he died, he treated me badly. ( I really don't know how to describe this, and pick out an incident, but I felt wronged then as well)
I want to know, is there any magickal means I can use to make his tongue fall off when he speaks about me negatively again? I'm pissed man, I didn't do anything wrong to them, neither did my mom.
I remember how they implied my mother was the reason my dad died (from heart attack)
The funny thing was, after his death we found out that they KNEW he had heart problems (my dad didn't tell us) he had asked them about heart treatment and they scared him "dont do it, expensive blabla"
Sorry if this sounds all over the place.
OK, what I want is other than the faggot's tongue rotting off, I want to break the magic they have done (there should be quite a few doing magic on the pastor, to gain favor from him), On the types of magic they would have done, Indian,Thai and Malay comes to mind.
Please give me advice
No.15854
>>15853To be more clear, the faggot uncle is quite toxic, and tells the pastor bad things about me and my mother, because they are scared that we'd gain favor
As to the reason of "gaining favor", this pastor happens to have lots of money, and they want it, and they do not want me to have it (he helped me when I was a young kid, but I don't wanna ask him for any $)
There's so many things about them, that I can't even think of anything to type. Just that they've done so much shit I feel extremely wronged, hate this feeling.
No.15855
So, /fringe/, I will achieve immortality. The question that remains is whether I'll do it using technology or by…other means.
So, any suggestions?
No.15858
>>15855You already are an immortal spirit Sounds like you would be interested in transhumanism.
No.15898
>>15773Absolutely is, I do it all the time. You may have minor issues with your tulpa not fully manifesting at first. That's fine and is mostly because you're not used to being on the same footing. It will fix itself with time and a little effort.
No.15934
Is anybody else having trouble moving the MEGA files to the mobile app? It keeps saying bad arguments. I want it to be on my mobile so I can take it into the woods or hold my device while I'm doing a ritual, I can't view the website on mobile either. I wanted to just write a /fringe/ Grimoire, I haven't been on fringe since about June last year. So if anybody could help with that, thanks. If not I'll just use my PC and create a fringe Grimoire
No.15936
>>15934What mobile„appp?
I use Linux. Just dl files with pc then onceu plug fone into pc the phones hdd should show up under 'my compute'er '
No.15937
Redpill me on Baphomet
Was he just some hermaphroditic pre-Islamic West Asian deity supposedly worshipped by Templars, amalgam of Mohammed, Termagant from Trinity of gods supposedly worshipped by Moslems (ie Abaddon/Apollyon, Mohammed and Tertagamt/Baphomet, just read text of Song of Roland), or just a random bullshit hoax excuse made up by French King to burn Templars at the stake (according to Benedict XVI they din' do nuffin)?
How does it even got related to be a demon, devil, or even featured in a sigil of Samaael/Satan?
No.15938
>>15937fugg how uploading images on 8chan does even works
No.15939
Currently going through the arcane formulas, the first exercise (the one that requires identifying the rest of your body as not the same as the ego, similar to smiley's chopping body meditation) is simple enough and I manage to do it, but then I've got to get out of my body and see myself. Compared to the other exercise, this is hard as shit, and I'm stuck on it, can I skip it for now, or is it too important to do so?
No.15940
No.15942
>>15937I was just thinking about this while browsing the art thread
>>15940it's unnecessary. Just do What I said , or install Linux mint
No.15951
>>15939you forgot your flag
I'm going to try this now, though. As of now, I can
imagine myself in a vidya-like third-person view, but have had no success in getting out yet.
No.15954
>>15937Maybe has something to do with pan and or Capricorn
Or Jewishness, Cuz them ancient kikes were sacrificing 'scapegoats'
No.15972
Does anyone have other "course" books, like Benjamin Rowe's 'A Short Course in Scrying' or Robert Bruces "Mastering Astral Projection"?
No.15984
Can someone give me information on sound frequencies and shit like that?
I am reading up on the 432 Hz vs 440 Hz conspiracy theories and the different sides on the issues, and this goes deep.
I am getting the feeling this is a serious issue, especially for people in a position of psychological control of the masses, since everyone listens to music.
There must be a lot of disinformation all over the place.
Are the frequencies relating to the openings of the different chakras true or could it be possible they have been made up to misguide?
Also, I am having that moment of not being able to distinguish between fact and fiction on the internet.
I understand it is good to question everything, but how far is too far?
No.15989
I have, for almost as long as I can remember, felt a slight tinge in middle of my forehead.
What is it?
No.15990
>>15972If you haven't already, maybe start working on Initiation into Hermetics?
No.15992
Can someone explain a bit why casual sex is bad? If it makes me feel good about myself why should i stop?
No.15994
>>15992*Thelemite Detected*
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No.16008
>>15992Copulation consumes you of your vital essences, like vitamins and "loosh", and it takes time to regain the lost energy. This is a lot of work! Personally, when I quit masturbating and fantasying, I've experienced a great boost in my energy levels and my creativity. This is because sexual energy is converted when not released.
I personally feel it is better to be celibate. There are many benefits in this "denial of flesh", far more than there is to sex, plus it has a huge appeal to me.
No.16017
>>15939What I find is easier is creating a "fake" body next to you and transferring your consciousness into it to observe your real physical body. If you're having trouble stand in the place where you'll be cloning yourself and take note of what it feels like to exist in that spot, give special attention to feeling the position of the objects in your room in relation to your new position as you'll need to recreate those accurately when you transfer your consciousness.
If you can do that try to transfer your consciousness not to a fake body but to a little ball of light and understand that you don't need a physical body to exist and interpret your surroundings.
In the exercise you're not meant to actually remote view your body, you just need to be able to visualize your consciousness inhabiting something outside of yourself so don't get in over your head(well do get over it but not in that sense).
Additionally you could push the exercise further by visualizing a body that's not your own and then transferring your consciousness into it to watch your real body. Make a body of a different race or gender to make it interesting. Furthermore you can add on the views, mood and feelings of that personality that's inhabiting that body which you're temporarily creating to realize the (your name here) is not the real metaphysical you.
Good luck neophyte, visualization will get really easy with time and practice.
No.16019
is the mastering astral projection thing worth it? also are there video's for it as a guide to help me?
No.16023
>>16019Montalk and fans would say it's not.
Eventually though, it's your own choice, and there are many possibilities that astral projection has that make it worth it (imo).
The mastering projection in 90 days book (found in the mega) is simple and straightforward + exercises are mostly about feeling/imagining stuff rather than sitting in certain positions so videos would be mostly worthless.
It's missing certain pages at the start though, so check the google books copy of it for those.
No.16028
>>16023One of the versions in the Mega has the missing pages, someone found it some time ago.
No.16030
>>16028>>16023RB-MAP.pdf is the name of the complete book.
No.16032
>>16008Pledging 1 year of Nofapping
Starting
……
Now!
No.16033
>>16032Post that in the renouncing lust thread.
No.16037
>>16008but what if i dont cum? Ive only had sex a handful of times but no girl has made me cum yet. Is that still a problem? If anything I am getting their loosh watching them beg for my dick while they orgasm.
btw not thelemite, that is true degeneracy
No.16039
>>16037Look into 'jing energy '
No.16043
What grimoires can I use to study Nazi Occult?
When I say that I mean the stuff the Nazis would have practiced. I already read the practice and theory of magic.
No.16052
Mundane here, what is 4th dimension like? Is it just like my anime's? How long does it usually take to get there?
No.16058
>>160524th dimension is time bruh
think about how animals have no sense of long term planning, only short term survival. Man is seperate from this, we have the capacity to account for the time span it would take for certain actions etc. This lets us do much, much more with our slice of time on this planet.
No.16078
What are some good ways to transmute sexual energy into something greater? Simple yoga exercises will suffice, but i am also to jing energy transformation.
No.16157
>>16058He's speaking about the astral.
>>16052And yes, you can fug a anime in the astral, people that hate the shit out of anime can encounter anime characters scattered around the astral.
check this thread for reference:
https://freedomboard.kirara.ca/fringe/res/3748.html
>tfw no weaboo flag No.16208
>>16023well i do not care what montaulk thinks, anyway… some scientists say there are infinite universes? could i astral project to them?
No.16209
>>16157seems weabuu, also could one just astral project to a universe that is coincidentally identical to a anime instead of going to a world that relies on human minds? in the astral just saying…
No.16216
>>16209sorry to clog up the thread, but i am confused some people are saying we get our ideas from these parellel universes some people are saying we create i am confused…. i would just go to a world where is it identical to fiction by chance or something….
No.16221
>>16157are these anime constructs created by people watching or are they just the people from the actual universe where that stuff takes place?
No.16227
Anyone has any experiences with Animal Magick?
No.16237
Is it possible for many people to merge pre-existing tulpas with an Egregore in order to further empower it?
No.16256
>>16237To further empower the Egregore, most likely.
Do you mean merging with a preexisting egregore or did you mean creating a new one?
No.16257
>>16256Because essentially, you could either be feeding tulpas to an egregore, or creating a new one. It depends on how you go about it and why.
No.16298
>>14718This is me. I'm still chugging along the lucid dreaming path. I've managed to have some very vivid dreams and to remember every single one since I began, but I have been unable to go lucid so far. I will keep trying new things but I would like some suggestions from the experienced here.
>>15179If you need a crutch to convince you that pleasure can exist just in the mind, try dream sex or hypnosis for orgasm. When you fully grok that the pleasure is from within your own mind, you may be able to appreciate this and you may be motivated to stop giving a part of yourself away with a crude form of it via masturbation. Like
>>15183 points out, cultivation of detachment would be a very important next step.
>>15268I always found it hilarious that "god is dead" has landed Nietzsche in the fedora camp. For the uninformed, Nietzsche wasn't saying that to be an edgy fuck, he was saying it to point out that Christians (of his time and even today) do not truly value what their God stands for.
>>15491Infinity in this case means endless division of the source.
>>15849Why not try lucid dreaming? I'm trying it too. You'll be asleep anyway plus there is the potential to astral project from a lucid dream.
>>15854Wow, that sucks.
My newbie opinion is that you can't fight black magick with more black magick. Try to understand and reconcile with these events in your mind and you will be freed of their influence. There is dreaming, visualization, meditation, prayer. Start with what is easiest for you.
Wanting revenge will ensure they do not get their just desserts and may backfire on you as well - this is how black magick works. If what they are allegedly doing is true, it will come back to get them. Focus on your self.
>>15984I'm not so sure about a conspiracy theory going that deep. In my perception, I began to realize that a lot of modern/Western media is all about trying to stand out from others and divide attention.
440 stands out more than 432 and sounds more "charged" but is definitely less ordered than 432. Division misguides and misleads.
432 is in alignment with nature and therefore in alignment with the higher spheres. You can actually run a plugin in music players like foobar2000 to de-tune your music without altering the tempo or tone too much. It sounds great. I think it would be by a factor of %0.08 if I remember right, you may need to do your own calculation.
On a related note you may like to read this blog to understand more about frequencies and the body:
http://underthesymmetree.tumblr.com/>>15992There is no such thing as "casual" sex. When you have sex, you mingle your energies with a person for a time. If you do not have etheric integrity, you will lose yourself to them, especially if they are powerfully negative.
If you must have "casual" sex, practice tantra and/or study Taoist ways of energy cultivation (look up Mantak Chia). If/when you master it, you'll know how to refrain from ejaculating and have orgasm without losing your vitality, and by then you'll be tired of having sex with shallow people, becoming effectively "celibate."
No.16368
Anyone know a good method for making yourself fall asleep? My sleep schedule is erratic and I need to fix that, but it takes me hours to fall asleep after I get in bed so it's really holding me back.
No.16376
>>16368Supplement with melatonin and magnesium. I've read a spoonful of raw honey before bed also helps sleep.
Also practice deep breathing and other relaxation techniques if you aren't already.
No.16403
Someone explain for me this kush
No.16412
>>16403One of the illustrations in your picture there is I believe taken from a book written and illustrated by Lobsang Rampa.
No.16445
>>16412Hey that picture youre replying to is hurting my eyes. What part did lobsang draw/?
I liked the overself from chapters of life.
How many rampa books haVe u read , Smiley? I wanna know if he writes about meditation in a completely dark room
Pic related. dark room I'm gonna buy
No.16449
Guys I am using these two meditation was wondering if it is same as TM meditation.
any tip in mantra meditation so I don't get in TM meditation's hole of blanking-out mind state?.
No.16467
>>16449Doesn't matter what you chant, as long as you have will for that desire, you can chant anything and still get the same results.
I absolutely LOVE Q-MM btw.
No.16468
>>16467You mean that Quiet Mind meditation in Book of knowledge??
(USER WAS ROPED FOR THIS POST) No.16470
>>16468da flag on da bag, mr kush.
No.16471
No.16472
Also I had some more questions
1)In meditation Posture, can I just reset on the wall?
2)In Q-MM can I use a mantra instead of a physical object?
3)I might get busy with school after 1 week, any tips on getting a spirit guide or something like these to teach me new stuffs?
No.16473
>>16472Just lay down or go into lotus position when you meditate.
Why not an object, why are you so fascinated in mantras?
Just go in the bathroom and do a ritual, I can do a LBRP in a passing period. Meditate when your class isn't doing anything. Make some sigils before a test and you'll most likely forget about them, and then throw them in the trash can. You can do magick literally everywhere.
No.16475
>>16403Looks like a sigil for help with AP or to AP to a certain place.
No.16476
>>16473
>lotus positionI can't even lotus(feelbadman)
>mantrabecause I can't see shit in dark, and if I fixed my vision on something it get all blurry and filled with Persephone shit.
Also I can't actually say mantra out loud, only in my mind. I live in strict Muslim family actually, where the word "magic" isn't really something to be heard.If anyone know what I am doing I am beyond fucked.
No.16480
How to transmute anger into something useful?
No.16493
How do I know that I'm truly meditating? The feel that I can associate with is a tingle in the Ajna chakra and a relaxing feel over my body but I can also do it while I'm at work and get the same sensation. Is it dangerous to do it everytime I feel like doing so?
No.16497
>>16476Why not just focus on an object you visualize like what the pic here
>>16449 said
No.16534
Do you guys have any tips on blood magic at all?
Also on voodoo blood magic tips so I can kill atheist bastards would be great.
Any help will be rewarded by my God.
No.16535
has anyone here used magic to get a girlfriend?
No.16536
No.16541
Whenever I stare into my eyes in the mirror as of late, they merge into one eye and my vision starts to feel forced. I used to be able to do this without that happening and without feeling this way.
Anyone know what's going on? This is supposed to be a technique to see the faces of your past lives
No.16543
How do you know if everything you know is misinfo? What makes fringe-type thought special and exempt from the idea that everything may be a ruse to keep us in shackles?
No.16544
>>16543I used to think this way.
I suggest "The Arcane Teaching" by William Walker Atkinson, which is in the Fringe Wizard Library, in the mega-sticky. It is an excellent book, particularly for deprogramming yourself from various superstitions and nonsense beliefs acquired during the regular course of living.
Fringe type thought, when learned, provided me with the keys to fully understanding the world. Everything unfolds when you realize we are ruled by magicians, and have been ruled by magicians for as long as the race has been on earth.
No.16545
So frequently when I'm meditating I get a mild 'buzzing' sort of headache in the middle of my forehead. Third eye area.
Can you do anything with your 'third eye' or have I just successfully unlocked the "Give self mild headaches" power on the /fringe/ skill tree?
No.16546
>>16544Is it in a folder or is it one of the files floating outside of the folders. I just downloaded everything onto my phone so I will get to researching ASAP. I've rejected fringe-type thought for so long but I think tonight might be the night that I begin my journey towards the supernatural.
No.16547
>>16544By magicians do you mean Matrix-agents or just anyone who can practice magic? And what exactly is meant by "magic"? That is what's fucking with me the most. I have a conditioned idea of what it is, but I can't fathom it beyond that.
No.16548
No.16551
how possible is it to bullshit your way into learning magic? And by that i mean just do everything your way. I mean, im sure its possible. But, how probable? Is it a semi common thing, or is it incredibly difficult?
No.16553
going to be doing babys first sigil pretty soon here…
Looking for some tips, warnings, results, and any fun things to intend on.
thanks
No.16564
>>16544>"The Arcane Teaching" by William Walker AtkinsonNot seeing it in the Mega.
No.16566
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>>16564It's under New Thought.
See Pic Related.
No.16578
I've denied the truth about myself for long enough, I've been led astray by a complexion mix of purity and lust.
Desire.
Desire to be pure
Desire to lust.
I've decided to be both.
I gain devine truths from the act of orgasim.
I gain devine power from purity.
By accepting both and denying none I gain the positives with the negatives from both cancel each other out.
By Cumming every 4 days I go into a trance after Cumming from a combination of incense, 4 hour long meditation, Marijuana, and visualization.
I will soon post results from the gaining of this truth.
No.16584
Is there a way to modify ones mind in the astral? like delete memories permenantly, remove kinks/fetishes, likes dislikes ect
No.16594
>>16584Yeah it's easy to do there. You just start creating thoughtforms and destroying and replacing ones that make up your mind with the new ones.
No.16602
>>16594wait are you saying we are made up of thoughtforms? also is there a way to measure morality?
No.16603
>>16602>wait are you saying we are made up of thoughtforms?Yes. This is a mental universe. We live in the mind of god. Everything is a thoughtform. It's just harder to change certain thoughtforms than others. Going into trances, going to the astral, raising FRV, etc. makes it easier however to modify thoughtforms that are otherwise hard to change such as your physical body vessel.
>is there a way to measure morality?There are various moral systems but the most important one is the one pertaining to raising in the scale of consciousness. Morality has relative components to it and may not be "absolute" in some regards but this does not mean there it is useless or to be disregarded. For me ethics/morality is a very important issue as living by the virtues is the way to develop oneself to higher powers, higher consciousness, etc.
No.16605
>>16603i take most things people say on this chan with a grain of salt due to the fact all of you have diff belief systems, but does the deleting thing you suggested actually work?
No.16606
Is there any guide that might help in no-fap??
No.16615
>>16547Anyone practices "magic" in one form or another to various degrees, anon. You should read montalks metaphysichs articles for some great ideas and conclusions, but the gist of what I mean can be summed up like so:
>The universe is mental and can be influenced by "mental" activity (thoughtforming to a larger or smaller extent)>"Time" isn't fixed and it is possible to create "situations" through magic and belief where things happen if not retroactively then in a sense for those "you need" to fulfill the stuff "you want" to receive the magical outcome, but it is dependent on:>Free will and consciousness. Remember, anon, that "consciousness influences reality by affecting the probability of events. It does so at the quantum level. (..) the basic principles are as follows:>1) Awareness / anticipation repels.>2) Ignorance / denial allows.>3) Intent / emotional resonance attracts."To sum up - those with unfolded magical power and those in groups of such individuals are capable of altering reality as they please because they create a strong enough thoughtform that influences others who, because of their ignorance and lack of potency, allow those individuals to shape reality for them.
I'm sure I missed some stuff, but I guess that's the important part of it.
No.16617
>>16606If you're not into guro, then visualize women as corpses or maggot ridden disgusting flesh sacks to get your mind off of constant sexual desire, and use something like the HAM SAH breathing someone earlier in the thread mentioned to transmute your excess sexual energy.
No.16618
>>16605It's a more direct approach in manipulating "yourself". It's simply the case that "you" aren't a static, finished "being" and you can be altered as "you" or anyone else might seem fit. Thinking, emotional patterns, likes or dislikes, habits - it's all malleable and the most basic used technique for it is autosuggestion.
The best way to tell if something works or not is to try it out, anon.
No.16625
>>16618thank you for the advice, i will try it mainly to remove some memories and likes and such cause i would prefer ot do it myself, and what does it look like modifying the mind like in the astral?
No.16631
No.16632
>>16625Memories are a whole other thing in a sense, and depending on what kind of memories they are it might be that forgetting them would be rather detrimental.
Memories in and of themselves are only as powerful as how much emotion you invest in them (like any thoughtform). The buddhists notion of aversion comes to mind. Every time you are trying to deny that something from your memory happened or if you're trying to shamefully hide or plead/discuss it as if you're not the master of it etc., you're just fueling the memory to reappear at a later time. And it strengthens a master/servant relationship with the memory as master.
which is applicable to any "thought" of yours with which you, when thinking of it, get emotional about. That is - you stop being in control.Some memories are more troublesome to deal with than others (seeing people dying and so on), so digression is advised.
In a similar vein there was a emotional alchemy thread on the old /fringe/:
https://freedomboard.kirara.ca/fringe/res/5697.html#5697 No.16640
I was parked on the street and just finished eating breakfast
Then I was surfing radio stations and thinking "fuck, it's getting sunny on this side of the steet"
Just then, my radio scan button stopped on some swing jazz station (88.1fm, los angeles) and the dj, as he came out of playing a song, says
"And that was on the sunny side of the street "
So my question is: What Does it all mean. Also, I laughed for a while after it happened, and i had just finished eating sausausage mcmuffin with cheese. Also I was kind of thinking about the Baudelaire quote : What can an eternity of damnation matter to someone who has felt, if only for a second, the infinity of delight?
Also I used to post about my crazy synchronicity experiences on old /Fringe /
No.16647
Hey. I have a question about emotional alchemy but I'm not sure how to express this question correctly, so sorry if it's hard to understand. Basically, today at my drama class I had a task to create an emotion simply by standing in one place and looking my partner in the eyes. We had to do sadness, anger, joy, etc… well, our director says that acting IS creating, remembering an emotion and I thought isn't this just a waste of loosh? And if you're creating an emotion on purpose is even worse because you're dis-balancing yourself on your own will? I'm really curious about this. Thanks for answering.
No.16650
Hey /fringe/, I was wondering: Is it possible to have some form of timekeeping thoughtform? I want to be able to timestamp my memories.
Also, what does /fringe/ think of the popular timekeeping methods? Dividing a day into 24 hours, each of which containing 60 minutes and 60 seconds? Is this a /fringe/-approved method for timekeeping because to me, the numbers seem pretty arbitrary. I was thinking that maybe, in much the same way that instead of defining an angle using arbitrary divisions such as 360 and using more natural numbers such as radians, perhaps something similar is available for time?
No.16652
>>16647I saw this shit on the sopranos.
Christopher goes to acting school
anyway….our emotions ,along with our inner talking , create our futures
So the acting school is really a conspiracy to make u mad and sad
Or it's just a game of pretend (which means tending to things in advance, which is wat our inner talkings do.)
Btw freemasons are called historys actors. Check the yoga thread and the esoteric christiany thread for more info
-sincerely, the poster above u
No.16656
>>16647It's a waste of loosh to give in to emotions anytime they "want to exist". Emotions serve a purpose, and arguably by initiating them like that you are training your capability of using them. I'd consider it a waste if you'd continue such practice beyond the need of training or refinement.
>dis-balancingDifferent emotional states serve different purposes, but the "neutral state "above" emotion" could be called a peaceful tranquility. While your goal with emotional alchemy should be to reside at the state indefinitely and to use the emotions as need or desire arises.
In conclusion - I'd argue that the only "disbalance" is when you are "led" by your emotions not vice versa.
>>16650What do you mean by timekeeping?
No.16657
>>16551i dont wanna seem like a douche, but i would also really like this question to be answered, lol
No.16661
>>16551Quite a lot as far as I can tell. There are general things that need to be learned so that you can use magic after that you can just work at things the way it "resonates" the most with you.
Some general "barely any dogma" resources are Atkinsons Arcane Formulas (with Arcane Teachings for theory) and Bardons Initiation Into Hermetics.
The point is - you have to understand how the universe operates and what some great minds suggest you could use to influence the world with. Afterwards go with whatever. Everything is mental anyhow.
No.16679
>>16534Well, you can certainly draw out energy from it, though milk, cum and honey are also acceptable sources. Said energy you could put into sigils or thoughtforms that would harm said atheist bastards.
No.16680
>>16679oh shit flag
>>16656>what does he mean by timekeepingHe wants to create a thoughtformed clock. I also would like to try this whe I'm more advanced - it'd be a good test of how independent a thoughtform can become.
No.16705
Does anyone have info on how physical exercise impacts the etheric body? I find that regular, difficult exercise is conducive to energy workings and focus for meditation.
Aside from my limited personal experience, I'd like to have some more info.
No.16707
>>16650If you used radians to describe phases of time you would have an irrational number of hours in the day, an irrational number of minutes in an hour, and so on. That would hardly be more convenient than what we have now.
If I said to you 'It's 1.18 (radians) o'clock.' would you have any intuitive idea of when that was? In order to make the system more usable people would instead say 'It's 3/8ths pi o'clock.' which is really just expressing the time elapsed as a fraction of the whole day.
The ancient Babylonians knew that expressing time as fractions of a cycle was useful, so they chose numbers that had lots of divisors to make that as easy as possible. For example 60 divides by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, and 30, meaning that you can express ten different fractions of an hour and their multiples using only whole numbers.
The current system is a good one.
No.16716
>>16632>>16625what does it 'visually' look like to destroy our composite thought forms in the astral?
No.16720
>>16716or whatever that composes us in the astral
No.16743
ok i was just perusing that anime thread can someone tell me which explanation is correct as some say we get our ideas from the universes in which they are real and some say the world we create through the media we make up which is correct?
I like this explanation
I don't understand why everyone is attacking anime, especially on a board that thinks like we do. Anyways, here's how I've heard it explained. Any fictional universe you know or will know already exists in full living color, total and complete. What an author or story creator does is peruse existing worlds and events that would be relevant and entertaining to his audience using imagination, because you can only think about what already exists.
If you want to experience an anime world, so what? You're a living conscious, part of creation and it's up to you (the TOTAL you) as to how and what you experience. You want to join the Battlestar and fight Cylons? Good hunting. Want to re-discover the dino-populated land chain from Jurassic Park? Why the hell not!? Want to server under Hurley, the new protector of the Island? Fuck yeah! Go do it, dude! Want to go to equestria and rape ponies? Fuck off and die, you stupid piece of shit. I'm only half joking because you KNOW people like that exist, but I'm assuming that most people that would want to do something like that would have pure intentions and generally someone with that kind of desire usually has different details of their life in mind which brings up some interesting questions.
however if you think in quantum physics wouldn't everything exist anyway due to a infinite amount of universes?
No.16790
>>16743If a number can be used to represent any form (such as the program on a CD) AND all numbers exist, then in a universe that is mental, all possible iterations of existence exist by equaling the value of some pre existant number.
If you believe that a number cannot exist outside the presence of a human mind, then you have the problem of explaining to yourself from a materialist perspective the presence of more than one apple in a bunch.
No.16804
>>16790so from what i understand, everything exists??? but are we getting our knowledge form than like in fiction
No.16807
>>16804Your second statement makes no sense to me.
No.16808
>>16804its from a sentance in this thread
https://freedomboard.kirara.ca/fringe/res/3748.html And sorry what i meant was Do we get our knowledge of fiction from the universes where they are real cause one person said that in the thread and does everything exist as you implied?
No.16809
>>16808Michael Kirkbride is one of us, he's the godhead of the TES universe according to himself. So yes, it's plausible.
No.16812
>>16808original responder here, what I would say is that we do not get the knowledge specifically from what exists per se, our minds create a filter which describes a world that suits our purpose for whatever fiction we are creating, and this filter just happens to describe something that exists. Although in many cases this could also be channelled to an author, many have claimed that characters they write for often take on a life of their own. Look in to the use of autopen wheere a writer writes in a trance state.
No.16822
>>16812Why does the text in your post glow? How do I do that?
No.16824
>>16812so pretty much if a i roll a dice enough i will eventually get a snakes eyes and just apply that to universes?
No.16828
>>16822I'm not aware of how to do that, I didn't do anything to my post. Maybe it's content is meant to resonate with you.
>>16824umm… there's only one universe. Uni means one. If the infinite exists, then all exists. Though if you read the Kybalion you may come across a more thorough understanding of this.
No.16830
How do I summon suckubus?
No.16832
No.16837
>>16743you think like i do
No.16845
>>16828fine fine lets not get into a argument but you get what i mean? right so your saying pretty much if there can be 'other worlds' than there are worlds of fiction out there?
are they physical and not reliant on our minds?
No.16847
No.16849
>>16828so fictional stuff exists just cause infinite exists?
No.16858
>>16849can someone clarify this stuff cause this is one of my big reasons for my interest to go to these 'fictional' (if you can call them that) worlds and maybe study the occult there, who knows what theres could do for ours.
No.16870
>>16707>Applying radians directly to time and clocksThat's not what I meant at all. I meant something which was analagous such that it is to time what radians are to geometry in that it would be more "natural" and wouldn't be so awkward with the weird decimals and the leap days and so forth but the rest of your point is still valid nonetheless.
No.16894
How does /fringe/ listen to their music? Sometimes, when I'm walking about, I want to listen to my music but at the same time, I want to improve my focus by being mindful of the moment. Do /fringe/ listen to their music at a designated time and place or constantly while you're out and about as I do and leave the meditative stuff for when they're at home?
No.16900
>>16894Also, how do I delete my post in case I forget my flag again?
No.16907
Good evening, how serious should I take my dreams? Yersteday something that happened in a dream not long ago came to reality and gave me the giggles, like a prediction or something. I'm not that much into /fringe/ but I do practice meditation and stimulate the chakras and now I'm really interested in developing this ability. Could someone guide me?
No.16912
>>16907Our dreams are so fucking valuable you don't even understand. They're the key to the akashic records to yourself, keys YOU need to unlock YOUR higher self. Keep a dream journal and record everything
No.16919
>>16858can i get a clarify?
No.16923
>>16617Do you even cast, bruh?
This is a terrible idea. Why are you telling him to create shitty desire elementals that feed off of sexual energy and disgust? Are you trying to turn him into a homosexual? Don't start fucking around with visualization and thought-forms, that nonsense'll haunt you and milk your dick for straight up weridness.
>>16625Bad news bro, you're going to have to develop an ego before you are able to accomplish anything. At the moment, all you're going to do is end up with more issues and a distrust of magic. Pound down "Arcane Teaching", then chase it with "Arcane Forumlas", both by my main man W. W. Atkinson. Do the exercises, read the words, respect the teaching, and you'll not only beat your lust but every other emotion the animal you're riding can toss at you. This balanced motherfucker right here's got you covered for finding it.
>>16566Bros, seriously, beating lust is all about developing an active WILL, all caps. The ego resides beyond your body and beyond your mind. Cut away all your feelings, all your preferences and dislikes, all your love and hate, and there's still something there. THAT is your core, THAT is WILL, the EGO, your SPIRIT, the only thing that truly eternal and all that can survive beyond the astral death. Once you take control of your emotions, once you realize how high above them you are, mad magical gains are on your way, and you will finally find peace.
Operate from the heart of the storm, and remember the first and last rule of magic. Don't be a faggot about magic.
No.16925
>>16847
>Will summoning a non-human, never gonna be human, doesn't trust humans entity hurt?Yes.
No.16930
>>16870In which case, the only natural way to go about it is to measure time by the orbits and rotations of the celestial bodies. The three most important of these are the solar day (the interval between two successive returns of the Sun to the meridian), the lunar month (the period between successive new moons), and the solar year (the time between successive similar equinoxes).
This gives us days, months, and years. It is unfortunate, however, that none of these cycles synchronize with each other. The lunar month is on average roughly 29.5 days long. The solar year is roughly 365.24 days long. Worse still, the exact values of all three cycles change over time.
Thus the weird decimals are actually part of nature. A calendar that accurately described all of the celestial cycles would be impossibly complex and largely impractical. Our calendar attempts to get around this by ignoring the lunar cycle and inserting a leap year every four years so the calendar doesn't get ahead of reality.
If you want a more natural way to tell time, it might be worthwhile to begin paying attention to the lunar cycle in addition to using the Gregorian calendar.
No.16935
I'm curious with tummo meditation you can heat yourself up
so is there a similar method to make yourself colder?
No.16936
>>16935Initiation Into Hermetics has such a method and it's basically the same thing except you cool down the body.
No.16937
I left a question in a previous question thread and it disappeared before I could see the answers, uh
Where do I find the willpower to break out of this compulsory, hedonistic-like lifestyle I have? I am addicted to caffeine and masturbation and can't bring myself to meditate. I want to do this and I'm trying to stop but I always come back to this
No.16940
No.16945
I know Atkinson but what is New Thought?
No.16947
>>16845Yes I understand your meaning. All I can say for now is that you can interact with them in a way that is equal to your conscious perception of physicality, which is all I can say about physicality itself to be honest.
No.16965
there is a ritual to feed physical hunger with as little to no food at all. what is it?
No.16970
>>16965Do you want to stop your hunger or actually feed and sustain your body?
No.16985
I'm considering joining a freemasonry lodge.
What are your thoughts on freemasons?
No.16986
What's a good meditation for falling asleep/relaxation? Mindfulness/deep breathing just keeps me up.
No.16988
>>16923By ego you mean "the self" in the vedantic sense, correct? Or does Atkinson use ego in different terms? I have not studied his works yet. Because everyone else uses "ego" to mean the conscious voice in your head, the one that suffers and is programmed by outside influences to work against your own awakening.
By the widely known definition, ego is supposed to benefit corporeal survival (maslow's hierarchy represents the needs of the typical ego) and can be a great strength to draw upon, but it has also been used as a great weakness in many (manipulation of fears, doubts, so on)
>>16985AFAIK, entry-level masons don't do shit. They're basically just a club of ring-bumpers. From what I can tell they have the advantage of being a group, with a group typically having greater magnitude of magickal influence than an individual.
The disadvantage is that a portion of the individual's energies are now used for the purposes of that group, and you have almost no say. They also have a bad habit of looking at non-masons (mundanes) as plebs, it's very elitist and from what it seems, without good reason. If I remember correctly, some sources here say they are an arm of the Saturnian cult, the square and compass resembing a recursive hexagram.
Don't let my opinions sway you too much though. Do your own research and use your loosh wisely. There may be many more things you can learn about and from the Masons without actually joining them.
I personally look at groups who ask you to take an oath before explaining what they are about with much skepticism. It's like not reading the Terms of Service before installing software – even if it may be harmless, you don't know what you're getting yourself into.
No.16991
>>16947So pretty much they exist all of them, cool, i hope these worlds were around before we thought of them as fiction. And how do i reach them ??
No.16992
>>16923god this im getting jedi order vibes, "Love will lead to the darkside"
No.16995
Can anyone point me in the direction of a good simple lesser banishing ritual?
No.16996
>>16970sustain. the latter is also welcomed too.
No.17002
No.17015
anyone here learn hypnotism, what can I use to learn it?
is NLP legit and does anyone have experience with it?
No.17016
I'm thinking about making a /neophyte/ board for the people who are making serious efforts to study magic.
I guess what I'm really asking is, how many of you are actually reading 2-3 books a week, in addition to daily meditation, visualization training, and generally putting forth serious effort to make progress? If there's enough interest, I can make a more mundane free area to help concentrate concentration.
No.17018
How to do proper chi breathing? When I'm not breathing at all, my PC/root muscle is tightened or something, should it always be in a neutral state? does this trigger kundalini?
Do we visualize breathing in earth energy below into the feet upwards, inhaling out of crown? I get stuck on the visualization when it goes up the root. Frequently I get a root-pineal connection and a straight energy circuit from ass up the spine to pineal occurs, but its not balanced… Would like insight
No.17019
>>17016Do it. Initiates can post tl;dr guides on visualisation and the like for the newnewguys
No.17020
>>17002Can i make a physical body there?
No.17021
>>17016I don't know about 2-3 books a week, but I do practice daily meditation, and dedicate myself daily to progress in my chosen "field".
I don't have quite so much to contribute to the average magician though, since my field is Yoga.
No.17028
I lost my dorm key am going to have to pay $200 to get a new one. How do I find it?
No.17031
>>17028Ask someone else in your dorm if you can borrow their key. Take it to a locksmith. Get copy made. Profit.
No.17036
>>17031I have to return it at the end of the year. The key says do not duplicate on it.
No.17039
>>17036find a shady locksmith who'll do it for less than $200
No.17045
>>17028The mundane methods others have suggested are probably the best, but a sigil could do the job if you give it time. If you need it now, dowsing works but it will only lead you close, not exactly to it. I've only dowsed a little but dowsing seems to be one of those really easy things that's hard to screw up, even for beginners.
Another option is remote viewing, but if you're not practiced, at best you'll only see what's immediately surrounding your key to a few centimeters, which may or may not be helpful. At worst you'll see what you expect to see and delude yourself.
No.17046
>>17028Does the key have any particularity? Is it old? Rusty? Something?
No.17048
>>15667It helps you think in different ways. Or gives you ideas of how to combat problems.
No.17049
No.17050
>>17046Nope, just the standard brass key with do not duplicate and some I'd number on it.
No.17051
>>17039It has to have the ID number on it.
No.17052
>>17039It has to have the ID number on it.
No.17053
>>17050Have you been recently to some place where people go to have fun?
No.17055
>>17016>>17019>>17021/neophyte/ is up and running. I'm going to be doing my best to keep it free of clutter, and encourage an environment of study and discussion.
Come on down, otherwise this'll just turn into my blog.
https://8chan.co/neophyte/ No.17068
>>17055>9,000th /fringe/ alternative board replacementFuck off with this. We don't need yet another one.
No.17069
>>17019>>17055All that content can be posted here and guides can also be added to the library in the notes section if they are any good. Why the fuck did you make a whole new board for this? It literally has no purpose.
>it doesn't provide new content>the sticky on /fringe/ already has links to the other material>status updates can be given HERE>neophyte questions can be answered HERE>a single thread could fulfil the purpose of that board>that board has no purpose except to divide and already small occult community>this board is already slow enough as is… but not dead slow like your alternative /fringe/ replacement you just made which is like the hundredth of its kindI won't go there and post there. There's already a place that provides everything I want and it's called /fringe/.
No.17070
>>17055You could just as well blog on here and actually have people read and respond to your little blog thread. If you want a personal blog just create a thread for that purpose on here. Save back up copies of each post you make in a text document and you can have your blog added to the /fringe/ mega library under notes.
No.17072
>>16985First thing they'll ask is why you want to join.
No.17076
how to become enlightened?
No.17079
>>17016If you want to be free of mundanes then:
'1. Stop being a mundane yourself.
2. Go to freedomboard.kirara.ca (the old /fringe/ site) and post there free of mundanes.
3. Get into the Fringe Illuminati secret board.
4. Reach a level of development that you meet with other Fringe Wizards in the astral.
5. Become part of top-secret wizard plans to make the world a /fringe/yier place.
Also ignoring mundane / fedora posters on here (not that many come in) is good practise in emotional alchemy, concentration, and self-restraint.
This board is already a place for people seriously into studying magick. Most people describe /fringe/ as "/x/ on steroids".
I personally read, study, live, and practise magick every day and the only distraction I have is posting online. If I just stopped coming here to help you silly neophytes out I would be doing heavy-duty magick every day that would blow away everything a dabbler does in a month of practise. Heck, I already am doing tons of magick even with this little indulgence of coming here and posting for a few hours.
No.17080
>>17076Read, practise, connect, do insight meditation.
You'll be enlightened by the time you've read the whole library and put it all into practise.
It's not really a binary process though but a gradual thing.
Degrees of enlightenment… if you think you've hit the end of the road of your enlightenment you probably haven't.
No.17082
>>16923about the shitty desire elemental
Can you elaborate what do you mean by that?
No.17084
So i hear animals astral project as well? what happens when they die same thing as humans?
No.17088
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Sometimes when im walking back home this nasty ass whore with short shorts is walking towards me, and as soon as she knows its me, she crosses the road.
Shes able to spot me earlier than before now.
Idk who this whore is, but i was wondering if there was any body language or something i could use to put a spell on her make her go insane?
No.17099
>>17082There are a few different names for them, as they are a subset of man-made thought-forms. I've always been partial to Desire Elemental, owing to the fact that they are born from and propagate a specific desire. A more familiar term to your belief system would be an artificial djinn.
The exact equation is fairly simple. Applied Will + Visualized Receptacle = Artificial Djinn or Thoughtform, depending on your belief system. The Desire Elemental is a specific type of thoughtform, born from repeated sexual imaginings. Because they are imbued with the principal of consciousnesses, they possess an instinct for self-preservation. This is where problems arise.
Desire Elementals are a plague upon someone who wishes to rid himself of sexual deviancy, as they are literally subverting all efforts which will lead to their destruction. This manifests as sudden surges of lustful imagery and a general weakening of the will.
The reason I called the "Not Guro but maggoty rotten sacks of flesh" suggestion a bad idea, was that the resulting desire elemental would feed off of both sexual energy AND a disgust towards women. This is a dangerous combination, as it may, if left unchecked, result in a rewiring of natural sexual impulses.
Homosexuality is, and I say this after study and meditation on the subject from an occult perspective, NOT A GOOD LIFE CHOICE. I will first give an occult explanation, then follow it with a more mundane metaphor.
The fundamental sexual energy is divided into Male and Female. When these two principals are brought forth, creation is the natural result. This is a very basic and powerful law of creation, and evidence of it is plainly written across every kingdom of life. The reason homosexuality is not a good choice, is that there are natural consequences of messing around with fundamental life energy. When two males lie together, all that is created is heat and friction, which damages the astral body and does not allow the male principal to flow freely. As the damage accumulates, and the male energy does not flow, it becomes polluted.
This pollution, if unchecked, results in a spiritual living death, turning your once beautiful astral form into a ghoulish creature unfit for any but the lowest levels of the astral garbage heap. The physical symptoms of this are obvious to anyone with a trained eye. The only exchange of energy in the homosexual activity of "Sex", is that of the filth and damage they have accumulated. The reason for homosexual promiscuity is a natural desire to lay with someone less filthy than themselves, and become cleaner as a result.
A wise student would see the trend. The older a homosexual becomes, and the more damage they accumulate, the more they will naturally fixate on younger and relatively unpolluted astral bodies to relieve their own astral burdens upon. The problem of pedophilia which plagues the homosexual ranks should come as no surprise to anyone with a basic understanding of occult sciences.
Females, however, suffer a worse fate. The male principal deals with forward movement, emanations from and outward of itself. The female principal deals with a kind of magnetism, drawing into itself and holding together.
So, young neophytes. What happens when both sides are pulling on a single object? It tears. The female homosexual is a literal sexual predator, and their "Sex" could be compared to a spiritual act of cannibalism, each ripping and tearing at the other to feed their own needs. Lesbian bed death, and the general soul-less disposition of the older lesbian are natural consequences of their unnatural and violent tendencies. Again, the older and farther along the homosexual condition progresses, the greater the risk to the young and innocent.
No.17100
>>17099I noted in my studies, with some degree of amusement, the sudden logical explanation of the homosexual's revulsion towards the "Bi-sexual". On some level, these creatures know what wretched fates they are subjecting themselves too, and yet even they suffer moral outrage at the thought of their filth being spread to the innocent and unsuspecting.
From this, I could conclude that while homosexuality is a terrible fate, it is entirely self-inflicted, and cannot be considered a sin. However, Bisexuality is.
Or, to put it another way. The exchange of energy between the male and female principals allows both to become satisfied, much in the same an animal breaths in oxygen and exhales carbon dioxide, which is taken by the plants who produce oxygen in turn. Homosexuality creates an environment in which there is never enough oxygen or always an abundance of carbon dioxide, and no process by which to cycle the energy, resulting in spiritual decay.
I find the occult sciences endlessly fascinating, because the more I learn, the deeper the subject becomes. I've yet to encounter a field or line of thought which does not benefit from the application of Magic.
I hope I've been able to answer your question adequately, though I'm not sure you knew exactly what you were asking about. If you have anything else, please feel free to ask away, knowing I will do my best to answer your question, or direct you towards a resource that can.
Pic related, something to wash your vision after all that talk of ghoulish filth.
No.17101
>>17099I suppose I could elaborate a bit further on how the desire elemental plays into all of this. Forgive me, but I've written most of this off the cuff, and have a bit too much to say about all of it.
A desire elemental feeds off of the desires which created it. Those born from fear, survive off of fear. Those born from Lust, from lust. Those from rage, from rage. Those from joy, joy. Those from hope, hope.
They are not evil, though they are the source of much wickedness in the world. Further, they do grow more sophisticated as time goes on. Your personal party of desire elementals learn how to elicit larger and more intense reactions from you, which in turn gives them greater power and influence over your behavior.
I am reminded of a parable of Christ, which when taken in context of thoughtforms, takes on a different meaning.
"When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house swept clean and put in order.
Then it goes and takes seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first.”
When a man creates an "impure spirit" and successfully rids himself of it, the spirit does not immediately disperse, unless the man intentionally destroys it. Instead, it will seek a new home and torment another. If it cannot, it may gather other wandering, hungry spirits and return to torment you with a wicked vengeance.
The control and discipline of your mind is one of the greatest gifts the occult sciences has to offer to mankind, as most of our ills are caused by ancient and out of control thoughtforms which torment us to sustain themselves, bruh.
No.17102
When i'm focusing on my pineal gland, i feel vibrations and i start to feel dizzy, and want to vomit. What is happening, and why does it happen?
No.17107
>>17102You need to work on the rest of your astral body before you start working on your pineal gland.
I would recommend all literature by Robert Bruce, who has done some excellent work in practical exercises for developing the astral body.
What is happening, is you are attempting to draw much more energy than you actually possess, for abilities your body is not yet equipped to handle.
No.17110
Immortality.
The thing many searched for.
I am fairly certain I am immortal as long as I don't actively try to kill myself. My only proof is I have made it this far in my life after an incredible amount of stupid decisions.
Is /fringe/ known for talking about this topic? Does it have any knowledge on this?
Is quantum immortality a thing to you guys?
No.17112
>>17110
>I am fairly certain I am immortal as long as I don't actively try to kill myself. My only proof is I have made it this far in my life after an incredible amount of stupid decisions.>Is quantum immortality a thing to you guys?What do you mean? You ARE immortal, but you have to realize the difference between your false-self and your true Ego first.
If you are talking about the immortality of your current physical body and current personality, I'm afraid that's just delusion.
No.17113
>>17110Ok, I read the wikipedia thing about "Quantum Immortality". That's not how reality works. Basically what manifests in actual "reality" is what happens, because the process of happening and knowing in God's mind are simultaneous (sorry, I know it makes little sense). I don't think there are any alternate universes being created at every decision and stuff like that.
Sorry, I can't really go into detail without sounding cryptic and shit. You should read some William Walker Atkinson if you want a clear overview of reality.
No.17114
>>17110Reincarnation is a common belief here, according to which, we are immortal spirits living out one of many lives in a temporary physical shell. So you may well be immortal whether you actively try to kill yourself or not.
Am I right in thinking Quantum immortality states that you cannot die because it is impossible to perceive yourself as dead and hence you must always exist in a universe in which you're not dead? If so, then this is compatible with /fringe/ thinking with the caveat that you are not your physical body, or your persona. You are a spirit, a self aware fragment of the divine consciousness pervading all of existence, and it is this that survives.
No.17116
>>17114Yeah exactly. The awareness of being yourself, the "I AM", never perishes.
Of course your John Smith persona and your body will in time die.
No.17118
>>17112>>17113>>17114Thank you friends. I am but a fool trying to understand things beyond my comprehension. I do believe death is not an end. I suppose I just never put thought into this kind of topic besides that I figured I can't die.
No.17144
man my belief in magic got really strengthened. I can see with my eyes closed. I can only do it when I'm in that half awake state but I can do it consistently. I know it's for real because I touched my eyes when this happened and they where completely shut it was funny it was like when my mind fully realized what was happening I stopped being able to see and when I stopped touching my closed eye lids and thought about something else for a short time I could again see with my eyes closed
Does anyone know what this is? Or what I can do with this ability or ways to make it stronger?
No.17151
>>17144Most likely astral sight if you've done it before going to bed and in some light form of trance.
Unfortunately the best thing you can see with it is your own body but it doesn't pick up inanimate objects as well, it also warps the distance to your walls and floor so it's kind of hard to navigate like that but it can be developed with practice.
No.17164
How can I make a genius tulpa, which will remember everything I see and give me an insight with its super intelligence?
No.17165
Do your thoughts need to be controlled?
Reading through the freedomboard-fringe, I found a thread stating that Demons are still attracted to you, even when you don't act on your filthy thoughts and that you must completely purify your thoughts in order to truly reduce the chance of an encounter whereas I read in other places that you should accept that you have no control over your emotions or your thoughts and you should instead train your ability to observe them by remaining attentive to the moment.
Can I get some clarification on this?
No.17166
>>17164>genius tulpaEh? I thought the way it worked is that first,
you have to improve
your memory by hard-training your concentration and attentiveness to the moment through sheer will. Then, you can speed-read and memorise whole books and have your tulpa process it for you.
No.17167
>>17166From my experience tulpas work subconciously, separate to your own conscious minds working. Have you ever had a random thought come into your head where you've just figured something out without consciously thinking it out? That's your subconscious mind at work, tulpas can work in the same way.
No.17169
Could someone explain the significance of wearing something black and being in the dark while meditating?
No.17174
>>17020can i make a physical body in this other universe?
No.17181
>>17174I have not done this myself, so please remember that when you read what I say.
In Kaballah there is supposedly information pertaining to converting matter from one state to another using incantations. Remember that the jews did not invent this stuff, they just take what they find and use it like all magicians.
So, if you could create a body using this method (which I have not researched beyond an as yet cursory glance at Kabballah) and transfer your consciousness into it, then you may be able to achieve your goal. There may be other methods which I am unaware of yet as well, if anyone would care to enlighten the board I'm sure there would be plenty of gratefulness loosh to be had.
No.17183
What are the limits of magic? Could i make a virtual reality for myself? My own world? Is changing your body possible with it? Like changing the shape of your muscles and such. Shooting firebolts? Conjuring items out of nothing? That would be really awesome.
No.17185
What is the functional difference between having a nocturnal emission and masturbation? Obviously with masturbation there is the discharge of sexual energy and loss of the creative life force present in sperm, but doesn't the body inadvertently lose it anyway if you splooge in your pants as you sleep?
No.17186
https://freedomboard.kirara.ca/fringe/res/3748.html ok so waht do they mean by the change 3d to 2d does that mean i become a anime when i enter a anime universe?
No.17234
I am starting to read Arcane teaching, but idk??
Is it really like Kybalion?
I mean what is the difference?
No.17235
Does anybody have a decent explanation for why people from Earth only reincarnate into people from Earth? Or is there some proof of extraterrestrial past lives I am not aware of?
No.17236
>>17235idk but here is my idea(like it or not)
Earth have certain vibration
Human have certain vibration
Alien/other spirit have another vibration
Think of it like a gate,only human(vibration) is allowed on earth and other alien is not(but idk).That's why demonic possesion/poession in general only happen after the human is born, which work like a gateway between spirits WURLD and physical WURLD.
again idk
No.17257
What do you think about the Atacama Skeleton
No.17261
>>13455theres a ritual to obtain loosh. how can i come about such ritual
No.17262
there's an entity with me. whenever i stay still i immediately feel their touch, which is sexual in nature. at times it seems like we are having sex? but it's not that clear, i don't actually perceive a shape or form or anything. also it doesn't end; it's just constant stimulation with no… i never came basically. which is extremely frustrating. i am uncertain of their origins or even what they are, i have some ideas but that's irrevelant atm. i can't even go into trance (i've only managed doing it once a long time ago, but this entity has been with me for like 10 months now) i feel completely helpless and have no idea what to do… help?
No.17287
Fringe CSS Assets
No.17297
>>17287I can fap to this.
No.17320
>>14922My intuition says that it's the work of other worldly pranksters taking advantage of you meditating. Sounds like that they were trying to move you somewhere else in the room to fuck with your mind when you stopped meditating.some masters report being upside down when they stop meditating.
Either that or you were levitating.
No.17321
i am currently enrolled at a trade school, is there a way to enchant or give my personal specific tools certain traits to benefit me on my path?
No.17325
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>17321>>1732embedded video explains>>17262Woo her with imagination and words
U might get powered
No.17361
During the years of 2011~2013 I became mighty interested in the occult. It all started finding a way to gain immortality through some method. Then I found a website dedicated to occult and well.. I've downloaded so much shit. Mostly items recommended by everyone. They are all stored away in my hard drive and never touched it since. Now, a great interested has awakened once more in me to find a way to become immortal. But, I've only read The Kybalion once after unsuccessfully finding the elixir of immortality.
Should I go back from the starting line and try once more?
No.17366
>>17361What the actual fuck. You use the brown pill flag and want material immortality. Who gives a fuck? You're an immortal soul in this 3D hologram for 3 score and ten to learn some lessons you decided to learn before incarnating. If you were actually brown pill you would know the words of Krishna "Certain is death for the living and certain is birth for the dead."
Fuck off and go read Initiation Into Hermetics. Or go become a transhumanist and be stuck in this third density hell hole a lot longer than necessary.
No.17374
>>17366Listen to those beliefs you're espousing. 'Life is a hell hole', 'death is inevitable', 'living is a grueling teaching experience because, even though you're an immortal soul who has existed forever, you still can't figure out basic lessons without suffering on earth over and over and learning the hard way'.
All that is nonsense, but you've married it with your belief. If you were really a Gnostic, you might be expected to remember the words of Jesus, who said "According to your faith be it unto you."
No.17381
Why does /fringe/ looks so shit now?
No.17383
>>17381Screencap of /fringe/ looking shit?
No.17385
>>17366Everything you said is total bullshit.
1. We are NOT here to learn lessons. An higher entity could literally transfer all the knowledge to us an instant. We literally forget shit when we are forced to reincarnate. This is NOT about learning. There are no lessons, there is no teacher, it is just chaos.
2. Immortality is very desirable and will give you the time needed to actually figure everything the fuck out so you don't have to be forced back here again for yet another incarnation.
3. We did not decide upon anything before incarnating. There was no choice in the matter for us anymore than how one day a tulpa may be forced into creation by someone.
No.17390
No.17399
No.17403
>>17385>an highersorry i had to be *that* person
No.17404
>>17403>no capitalization or periods.You might as well an hero right now.
No.17410
>>17385I would like to know your POV on reincarnation and death
No.17416
>>17374That's a complete misrepresentation of what I said. Nice tunnel vision you have there, brah. I never said life was grueling, nor did I say life was a hell hole. If you do not believe 3D Earth is a hell hole then you are delusional. Also you completely misunderstood the Krishna quote. It's not about how death is inevitable, but that death is an illusion. Seeking immortality is folly because we are already immortal.
Life doesn't have to be grueling at all, in fact my life has been amazing beyond anything I could have imagined since around mid-November.
>>17385That's an interesting perspective. How did you reach this conclusion?
No.17420
>>17416>If you do not believe 3D Earth is a hell hole then you are delusional.>Life doesn't have to be grueling at all, in fact my life has been amazing beyond anything I could have imagined since around mid-November. These may seem like contradictory statements, so let me qualify them by saying that 3D Earth is a hell hole compared to the rest of potential experiences in the Universe.
No.17425
So i have debated with you guys about other fictional universes being real and reaching them through the astral, how do i know im in the proper universe if i come back and not the a diff but identical? can i trace my "astral or something?
No.17426
I have a slightly philosophical question. Is platonic realism consistent with 'greenpilledness'? I am currently an aristotelian when it comes to universals, but i am open to compelling arguments in the case of other beliefs.
No.17434
>>17425There's a "cord" connecting your potential energy body to your physical body. Read Bruce's Astral Dynamics. You can't get lost that easily.
No.17441
>>17420You will chase the light forever with that attitude.
I will be, where I am. A high god over all creation in the 2D realm may seem pathetic to you, but from his perspective he is all-mighty. What has your higher density gained you, but a new ladder to climb?
I tell you the truth, each from his own eyes sees the world the way all do, and from any perspective the lower seems primitive and the higher heavenly.
And the God fire is in each of them.
No.17446
So, there's this dude going around on WizardForums(dont kill me for lurking there) saying he is the husband of Athena, and was the first shaman ever created, and apparently got initiated(was mundane before) for a year ago.
Do you think this is true? I find it weird that someone just takes some ayahuasca and suddenly realizes that he is some deity's husband.
No.17453
Just had this thought:
What if, despite all my efforts, I am tumbling on my way down instead of ascending onto a higher plane? What if was an angel and am becoming a static rock?
I will live my life to my best efforts, obviously, but still the thought gnaws at me
No.17455
>>17434i mean can i trace where i have gone before
No.17464
>>17185After a while of abstinence, your body starts just pissing the excess out. This is why sexual transmutation is necessary. Breathe in, say/vibrate HAM, direct the energy to the brain or mind or the top chakras or what have you, exhale while saying SAH.
No.17465
>>17464fleeg sorry
>>17165It's how you mental alchemy, and just knowing how to control thoughts gives better focus.
No.17466
Should I buy a gun off a guy off Craigslist
Or is it a distraction
No.17474
>>17099is it possible to repair such damages?
No.17483
>>17410Same as described in the one tl;dr post in the reincarnation thread. The more developed the consciousness, the more conscious choice over the next incarnation, otherwise it's mostly out of your control.
No.17485
>>17416We are immortal but certain aspects of our persona we wear are not and I'm pretty sure he wants to preserve his persona, intact, for a very long time…
No.17490
>>17422Did you just make that yourself, for me? That's awesome, but, refer to
>>17486. You ever AP'd or had a lucid dream? You think that's third density?
No.17491
>>17425>>17455There is one way to do this. It's called psychomancy. Lobsang Rampa described how to develop the skill very simply and there's also a book by William Walker Atkinson dedicated to it.
No.17498
>>17385
>we are not here to learn>needs material immortality to "figure shit out" in order to not reincarnate upon deathplease, tell me more about the contradictions inherent in your belief system
No.17499
>>17474In theory, yes. The first step, which should be obvious, would be for such an individual to stop engaging in the behaviors which cause the damage. Abstaining will keep further damage from accumulating, and also force the astral body to reshape itself to accommodate the new behaviors and energy movements.
The next thing to do would be working on the energy body. I would recommend Astral Dynamics and New Energy Ways, both by Robert Bruce, as a resource on stimulating the energy body.
Both of the above activities will help get the circulation back into the astral body, allowing the accumulated filth to be cycled out properly. This will alleviate the worst of the effects, but not totally reverse them.
To do that, larger lifestyle changes would be in order. I would look into Initiation into Hermetics, by Franz Brandon. The exercises contained within will allow you to fully purge your spirit of the corruption, in addition to allowing you to find the source of the behavior and alter it.
The most important thing, however, is preventing further damage. Even if no other steps are taken, provided that the damage is not too extensive as may be the case of sexually active homosexuals in their forties, preventing further damage may allow for the astral form to recover.
If you are already a ghoul, however, then I expect that a full recovery may not be possible. For a homosexual in their early thirties, however, I would have hope for a full recovery.
If you are asking for yourself, then I would tell you that simply having the desire to reverse the damage is a good sign that things are not too late. If not for yourself, then I hope I've been able to answer your question satisfactorily.
No.17500
>>17498It's not a contradiction you faggot, we're not here to learn, nobody demands we learn, we can be ignorant faggots our whole lives if we want. I just want to learn in order to avoid being reincarnated in this shithole. I also am not the guy who wants immortality and I don't need material immortality, my own approach would be to strengthen the astral body so much as to make it immortal.
No.17501
>>17144This happens to me too. There are many forms of blindsight one can develop.
No.17502
What are tulpas?
what are the benefits of creating a tulpa?
how do you create one?
No.17503
>>17169It reflects less light at you and therefore reduces potential disturbances to your meditation.
>>17183The only limit is imagination. A thing that can not be imagined (created in the mind) can not be done. Other then that, everything else can be done.
>>17186Try it for yourself and find out through experience, I guess you'll need a mirror to see.
>>17234It expands on what was taught in The Kybalion.
>>17235Habit. Your mind has been trained at a very deep level to project and live out the form of a certain human. It's also why when you reincarnate, you usually reincarnate in a body that is as much as possible, just like your old one.
>>17261Anything that provokes and directs raw emotion towards you will do.
>>17262Either deepen contact so you can perceive the entity more fully or banish the fuck out of it.
>>17321Yeah. Treat them like thoughtforms and begin reprogramming them with your mind. Behave like an animist and treat your objects as if they have certain principles of mind within them too.
>>17360A sentient thoughtform. Created through intense meditation/concentration, imbued with astral energy (emotions) to give it life (if you don't do this, they are stunted in development and retarded), they can make great companions and do many things.
No.17505
>>17446He's probably deluded. I don't put much weight on labels/names in instances like this. Just think of how Jesus can be the Mexican mowing your lawn.
>>17453I am not sure it's even possible to make backwards progress. It's possible to stagnate for a very long time but not to fall lower.
>>17466Go ahead and do it.
>>17502I already told you that they are sentient thoughtforms. Go read the thoughtforming guide. There's lots of books in the library too. They are very useful and very powerful with much potential to fuck yourself over so I suggest careful and prolonged study before you craft one.
No.17525
>>17383this is just painful to read
I can deal with the eyesore pentagram and light background but don't make the posts transparent.
No.17532
>>17498Lol bro… have you even the arcane teachings
No.17533
>>17525What's wrong with the pentagram?
As for that, I don't know how to fix that, as I can't find the thing in CSS to reference that little hoverpost which appears when hovering over. I don't even know how you got a screencap of it.
No.17537
>>17525The greentext is also impossible to read.
Maybe this was done to deal with annoying mundanes and shitposters.
You can change the board theme on the bottom right of the page. I personally use Dark
No.17538
No.17549
>>17537>what? Are you sure greentext is hard to read? No.17550
>>17549I can read this perfectly fine. Maybe your eyes are just shit or your monitor is shit. If desired though I can change how greentext appears. Change its colour or add a shadow or something.
No.17552
No.17575
Just stopped by from /wicca/ to say I love the customization you've got goin' on here!
Blessed Be!
No.17593
>>17505>Go read the thoughtforming guideis that on this board or the old one?
No.17599
>>17552Maybe try darkening the green and removing the black outline. There's too much going on with the text to be easily readable.
No.17610
>>17599this, I can read it fine but making it darker would make it much easier on the eyes
No.17626
>>17491what does it look like? like a trail of white or something?
No.17633
How do I strengthen my astral body?
No.17640
>>17633Do some astral pushups and lift some astral weights, m8
I be liek in the astral gym, bruhbruh
I'm all liek "DO U EVN LIFT!?!?!!!!!!11ONE"
No.17654
So, I've found myself struck by a particular symbol, which is itself a subversion of a symbol. I'm not quite sure how to interpret this symbol or its place in my mind, but it feels right somehow. What're y'all's thoughts on the matter?
No.17656
Through this website, I was introduced to the notion that 432hz and 528hz music is of a higher spiritual vibration. What I've observed so far seems interesting.
I've tried listening to tracks I've stumbled across on YouTube, and though the music is certainly mellow and relaxing, it's had no immediately discernible affect on my meditation.
Though there is one channel on youtube which I'm hesitant of: AudioEntrainment. There's something about the name which seems… off. I'm worried that, in that particular instance, there is something to the music which I may not appreciate. Specifically thought control. "Entrainment" strikes me as too much a merging of "entertainment" and "training".
So, what are your thoughts about binaural beats and other "healing" music?
No.17689
Will I go to hell if I use magick, /fringe/? I want to learn your ways but I don't want God to get mad at me.
No.17690
No.17691
Are there any spells that will help increase my muscle gainz?
No.17694
>>17691Not spells but meditating upon greater strength and going into trances and so on can rewire your nervous system and regenerate muscle and harden it and make it really fucking strong. If you go into the astral just to lift and do physical exercises and shit non-stop you'll come out of it stronger and if you do this all the time and regularly test yourself you will make massive gains. Also for further credibility here, it should be noted that Olympic athletes have incorporated visualization into their practise, and many studies have been done on visualizing where they have found people make FASTER progress with this then merely doing it physically. The exact stats can be found in
The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot.
I've also used it for myself and it DOES WORK.
However; you need loosh to power this. LOTS OF IT. So EAT BIG TO GET BIG. You'll understand… and also tap into any higher energy sources you can while you're at it so you don't have to devour like medium sized animal and buckets of grains and vegetables every single day.
I so wish I had more food… food's a good source of loosh.
No.17698
No.17704
How do I know I'm the right kind of person to be doing magical stuff? These kinda things require discipline, which I very much lack. I'm afraid I'll just give up because it's too much effort before I get any good results.
No.17708
>>17704Start small to get big. If you are worried of your amount of discipline, don't worry too much of it! It can be trained. Everything can be trained, be it body, mind, or willpower.
An example of starting small and getting big; I had difficulties meditating for even ten minuted, but I WILLED myself to "just do it", and now it is easy for me to meditate longer sessions.
Magic demands your time and attention, but you CAN do it. Again, start small to get big. Meditate a little so that you can meditate for longer. Read a bit so that you can read a lot.
Start small to get big! Learning is fun!
No.17714
>>17704How do you know you're the right person to do anything? Read books? Study psychology? Just follow your guts man
No.17734
is it possible to enter a trance and AP while listening to music?
No.17742
I've been reading a shit ton of William Walker Atkinson these days. Why is he not the fucking patron and overlord of /fringe/?
Everyone should be required to read at least five books by him before posting here.
God, it's just, it's perfect. He teaches you everything you need to know. He covers it all. And he wrote that shit in 1905.
I just wanted to leave this here for the people asking "how do I progress" or "where do I begin".
No.17745
>>17742What books would you recommend, anon? I checked out a few on amazon, looks like it would be worth a read.
Thanks for the heads up & good looking out.
No.17755
Is there any significance in that whenever I look at the sky at night I'm always facing Orion?
No.17757
No.17758
So /fringe/, where do I begin with all this? I felt like I was starting to lose my mind about 6 months ago when I took up Kobudo. Since then I feel like my consciousness has been ripped open and things not only from my past, but deeper meanings behind the choices I have made and names I think I have evoked unwittingly.
The slow culmination of events has been a strange journey.
The first distinct event was within my bed with my family. A puppet master came to me and was trying to attach strings to my wife and child. A direct exertion of my will seemed like it refocused it's attention on me and since then no talk of my family has been part of our exchanges. This entity has tried to string me, however remains unsuccessful.
Since then, I have experienced magic I know is real. Three times thus far this puppet master has posed me riddles, but I will return to that topic momentarily.
The second instance was a test of my hubris and as I was training, I felt my mind clear and I was preforming simultaneously inside and outside of my body. This lasted only about 20 seconds before my heart rate and BP were spiking into dangerous levels. The event scattered my senses and my head was spinning. It was not until I took time to calm myself again and telling myself not to push too hard that I was able to refocus
The third instance was precognition last night, this was the most intense of all experiences yet.
I started the evening by going over to a friends home after my son was asleep, and we were watching T.V. As we watched the show, my consciousness was receiving a plethora of messages about a Star. First of which was "Where is the Star buried?" As the night progressed, these messages kept coming in. "Follow the Bouncing Star." It was not much longer before my phone rang and I was being called home because my son was awake and quite upset. On my way Follow the Bouncing Star was my delighted hurry home and bouncing towards it was mirth despite my night out with friends being cut short. On my way home my overwhelming since of joy manifested itself in what I believe you call Thought form. Bouncing home until I break in the door to hear the screaming of a child who needed his loved ones. (It bares note that his mother works third shift and my son is three) After we had time to bond as a family and reestablish comfort and ground ourselves, we had a conversation about what emotions and feelings were close to us. It's a telling story about where I find strength when my son is the one to say things like "Bravery, Family, Toughness." When he finally fell asleep, the puppet master showed himself to me, I believe now that he was calling me home last night. He was posing me image after image until I could find the right one (a falling pill) at which point I was told I could ask any one question "What are you?" is the first question that came to mind, but the response was "That's not how this works." Clearly a game I don't understand quite yet. I can't pin this entity as entirely benevolent or malevolent, but it seems that it's role for me at the moment is information broker. Past that moment my head started to buzz and my thoughts began to whirl quickly, as I was aware of my surroundings I was becoming more aware of something eluding me. That Bouncing Star from earlier was in my room and now I was determined to follow it. When I was outside of myself and touched the star I was taken (in a very non-linear manner) to a city somewhere not on this planet, at least not within my scope of knowledge.
The next few hours were hosted by two entities and an encounter with an unknown thief. The first was a gate keeper for the city. This figure was imposing as what you might imagine. 12 feet tall (by my recollection) and it's skin looked like deep grey/blue metal, white hair threaded through gold springs and jeweled (with what I can not recall.) The encounter began when the bouncing star leaped me over the city walls, something immediately pulled us back. Not the keeper itself but feeling we had violated some rule and thought it best not to act above recourse. This gate keeper seemed unsurprised by my presence or that a bouncing star lead me here. There was disdain, and I could feel it, but at the same time that did not color our interaction, which seemed cordial. I asked where I was and why I was here, of that he told me that I could only decide these things. Not understanding, but still braving to venture forth I asked for admittance and was granted it.
<cont>
No.17759
The second encounter was much more enlightening on a personal level. I met with an entity whose name I shall respectfully omit and call her "Little Light." When I first showed up at her sanctum, Little Light told me she had been waiting for me a long time, but immediately when we moved inside she began to run through a massive labyrinth. It was not until I was able to utter her name that she stopped. She told me she needed to be sure before she took me deeper into her maze. Now Little Light has always had a strange connection to me, we operate on a similar frequency it seemed, and our emotions were perfectly in line the entire time in the maze. The pleasure of meeting, the thrill of chase, the solemn thirst for further knowledge. As we moved towards the inner most room of her Sanctum, it seemed there was something that had followed us in. This is the thief I mentioned earlier. I fell a step behind and somehow this entity managed to trap me within the maze of Little Light, a domain not it's own. When I was trapped, I felt my astral self growing, panicking, using size and will to try and escape this box I was trapped in. Lil was screaming through the door to stay calm and hunt it down. I felt this thief invade my body and it was going for my mind. I have no clue in what it aimed to steal, but I regret to say it was successful and my attempt to stop and trap it, not so. I felt it spiraling through my head and memories, then when it found what it was looking for attempting to hide further in my body, perhaps just long enough to force an escape. When my physical body coughed, I felt it escape. Little Light was finally able to spring me from the trap, with the same frustration and sense of defeat I felt I am sure. After that she and I sat down in her inner chamber to talk, I can't remember much of what was said, my focus was drained at that point, but she lead me to a name that I will need to investigate further.
So I ask you /fringe/ am I somehow awakening by self realization? Am I being played? Or am I going crazy?
No.17764
No.17766
>>17758>>17759Sounds to me either your current incarnation or a past one holds something very valuable to this puppet master which is either an alien or a demon.
You're not going crazy, people have reported in the past cities of Nordics orbiting Earth in reality marbles so it's possible you were transferred to one.
Look into our practices as there are ways to defend yourself, it would also be useful if you could try to delve into your past memories and find what's so important is hidden within.
No.17768
Good visualization exercises?
I'm going to be doing manwatch at a job for 80 hours so I have lots of time to practice.
What would you suggest /fringe/?
No.17770
>>17768>>17759The light is enlightenment
The darkness is ur misspent energy (like habitual fapping)
>>17768>>17768>>17759 No.17771
I want to start lucid dreaming. What are some good sources/techniques that work fast?
No.17773
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When is Vishnu finally gonna come along and demolish everything? I'm sick of waiting.
No.17778
No.17794
>>17778>bumping a stickyAlso, does anyone know if it's practical to use magic to communicate with animals?
We've had a fruit fly problem lately and I wanna tell our damned spiders to do their jobs and move their webs away from useless spots.
No.17796
>>17755You might be Orion alien incarnated as a human. According to Cassiopaean material, most of them are not very nice to humans. Will clarify more later.
No.17797
>>17768Geometrical shapes, find a simple item wherever you are and visualize it, remember making the shapes 3D and rotate and twist them, give different textures to them, (for example, turn a metal spoon into wood or rubber). Also, visualize your surroundings and the paths you might have walked.
No.17818
Is there a way to learn where i have been? cause i want to be sure im on this plane and not just a identical counterpart.
No.17825
>>17818why would it even matter if the plane you're on is an identical counterpart?
No.17835
>>17502there is a board here on 8chan /tulpa/ also tulpa.info has plenty of good stuff
No.17841
>>17745If you have not read them yet, check out The Kybalion and The Arcane Teaching first.
If you read them already, I suggest checking out "A series of lessons in Yogi Philosophy". It's a huge compilation of Atkinson's works that basically will introduce you to everything you need to know, and it's based on the teachings of the Oriental masters.
http://yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/2014serieslessons.pdfIt's a huge document, like 2000 pages long, but the individual books are separated. You can read them in the order they're presented, although I recommend reading "The Science of Breath" and "Hatha Yoga" after you finish reading the first part (the first 14 lessons), since in those two books he explains how to take good care of your body, which is the first step if you are serious about progressing.
Cheers
No.17859
>>17766Thank you for the reply, since I posted last I have felt that entity rooting around in my mind, it seems you were absolutely correct. Little Star seems to know where this information is locked away and is able to protect it. I have not however assertained its true nature. One word sticks out in my mind from last night "transdimensional" was something she told me. I don't know if this corralates with what you were saying about reality bubble cities, but it seems to be along those lines. If it was cities of nordics, it might also explain how I went relatively unnoticed. I definitely appear as my outward self as one, the inward self would reflect in a similar manner if left untrained I suspect.
When I feel myself trying to 'open out' as I have come to call it (broaden my senses in general) that presence is always in the way. I know my strength and resolve bolstering by the day and hour now. I dont know how much time I have until the puppet master gets what it wants but Lil' told me that she can't hold out against him in my head forever. I worry now that I must push myself hard and fast towards protecting her as she has clearly done for me. Puppet master came closer to me then he ever had before while I was open, he tried reaching in out of anger after I asked him a question, it seems I am getting better at seeing his images, and this preturbs him as he wants me to fail slowly so he can pull through my mind.
I worry now and must use measured caution, I will not be taken to a place of fear however. There are atleast four entities I care about twisted into this strange mockery of fate I now face.
No.17862
>>17796
>ORIONS >Orions which come from the stars in the Orion constellation are a group claimed to be working with the government on Black Op Projects.
>They are very heavily involved in influencing the world population through the use of mind control. They have also been doing genetic work in which they alter a human sperm and ovum to the extent that all offspring will produce hybrids with new characteristics. Humans will mate and create children with alien genetics. That’s one step beyond the average abduction scenario.
>Some claim that ’negative’ entities have been associated with some of the stars in the Orion constellation. Other sources claim that the Orion Nebula is a cosmic ’doorway’ to ’infinity’ or the realm of the Creator, which transcends the time-space-matter universe.Fuck
No.17870
>>17825Cause it could be a trick, and i would prefer to talk to the people i have actually talked to not a counterpart, is there a way to track where i have been?
No.17879
According to a post I read somewhere, meditation when done in the astral plane is far more powerful than meditation done normally. If this is true, would it be possible for me to astrally project but rather than risk running into demons or trying to fight witches or whatnot, could I, after astrally project, go to some kind of "safe place" where I could meditate in peace?
No.17885
I think I may need help.
Last night I discovered a very large group of greys In a clearing in the Astral (30+).
They were paying me no attention till something happened, I don't know what but they all turned their heads in unison to look at me.
They all looked me straight in the eye.
Should I prepare for tonight? Or do you think I got their prolonged attention instead of their immediate?
No.17894
>>17885Shit in the astral's been following me my whole life, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
No.17910
Seeing a psychiatrist tomorrow. Any tips on things to say so I can become a Mystic NEET for a few more years? I can benefit the world by focusing on development and eventually unlock genius level intelligence or make mass money with magic, rather than wasting hours on draining job.
I have had at least 2 manic episodes with depression, so should at least get bipolar diagnosis, which won't prevent me from working. I see things most others do not (prana / ether and astral lights), hear things most other do not (have heard entities speak to me, subconscious has given me messages and other things), have an intuition of sorts that could be classified as tactile schizophrenia, and have beliefs that most do not (Satan / Demiurge rules the world, various 'conspiracies' and so on).
Anyone have similar experiences and can let me know what to expect and give advice? I know at least one of you here can. I do not want to act crazy on purpose, mostly just tell the truth.
No.17912
>>17910>mostly just tell the truth.Do that. But don't do it in an overly logical way, don't reason out your strange ideas, just state them. If you're good at communication and you use reason in the right way you can tell psych types anything and still have them thinking you're sane.
No.17920
Can I get some book recommendations? I would like things to read as I go through the first few steps of IIH, after i accomplish that i should have a better idea of what I want more information on.
I have already read The Kybalion, The Arcane Teaching, and The Arcane Formulas (though i am unsure if i should be practicing that in addition to the practice in IIH, i do have the time if it won't interfere), The Science of Breath, and am currently reading W.W.Atkinson's book about Mystic Christianity.
I am open to reading anything that you think would synergize with my current level of practice.
No.17923
>>17920For practice:
http://pastebin.com/SihWHG5shttp://www.abardoncompanion.de/Lecture/index.htmlRobert Bruce's books in sticky
For truth:
Disregard Christianity and most of the outdated stuff you have read and progress through this site:
http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/God(1459255).htmShould keep you more than busy for a while.
No.17925
>>17923Thank you!
For the record, I reject Catholicism but not Jesus as it's obvious he had many valuable things to teach but unfortunately his followers corrupted his teachings and reverted to worshiping him instead of trying to rise to his level. Shame that the Church has worked so diligently to suppress his true teachings
No.17933
>>17912Seems like it would be difficult to just state them, as surely they would ask me why I believe such things. Unless saying I read them online, have had visions and 'intuition'. I believe I come off as fairly intelligent and well spoken, so may be hard unless I put on a subtle character. Surely they could tell if people were lying based on experience, intuition and sensing aura (I'm sure insane people carry certain distinct auras).
I think I will say I believe my neighbor next door is out to get me or an agent of darkness, as he makes a ton of noise at inconvenient moments for me and other things. Maybe if he implies some of my beliefs are off I could state the majority of the world is insane for being unaware of Maya or the true nature of reality.
No.17936
>>17933A lot of the time mental health people are incredibly fickle and on power trips, they make decisions based on whims, things get conveniently ignored, I got diagnosed with aspergers syndrome when I was young and recently I got drunk and accidently hit someone, then I trolled the police with occult conspiracy theories and got sectioned for it, suddenly I never had aspergers syndrome (which could have explained it) and was instead psychotic so they could lock me up longer even though I wasn't violent or crazy at all under their care. Recently I've managed to convince them I was never psychotic or had aspergers syndrome in the first place, just had shitty life experiences and weird stuff happening.
Often they'll have their mind made up before they've even met you.
If they ask you why you believe that stuff say visions and intuitions rather than stuff on the internet as dumb people believe stuff on the internet and that doesn't make them crazy.
It's true they'll be used to people lying to them so be careful with that.
>Maybe if he implies some of my beliefs are off I could state the majority of the world is insane for being unaware of Maya or the true nature of reality.Try not to be too spiritual as that is "allowed", say the rest of the world is insane and not aware of the true nature of reality but don't use terms like maya.
No.17938
>>17870Please i would like a way to know where i have been so i don't somehow get into duplicate worlds and such, cause i plan to travel to diff worlds and i don't want to come back to a replica i want to go to the one i went to.
No.17940
>>17936Interesting. I too was sectioned, about 2 years ago for 'psychosis'. I disagree that it was the correct diagnosis (started with hypo-mania, then worsened to mania, then weird mystical stuff happened and had a breakdown or extreme level of mania). Was only there for about 2 weeks thankfully and left and eventually went from 'psychotic' to completely normal in their eyes. Seemed to be quite beneficial in the long run, however I had to take anti-psychotics for a few months, though hopefully not long enough to experience brain shrinkage.
>Often they'll have their mind made up before they've even met you.In that case, it would seem I'm out of luck for getting a diagnosis that would save me from becoming a wage slave. Oh well.
Thanks for the advice. I suppose I'll just act how I usually act and be as truthful as I can, to an extent. I may even try to avoid a bipolar diagnosis, since I absolutely do not want to take medication and being labeled as an un-diagnosed bipolar could have a negative impact on me in the future.
No.17942
>>17940I was sectioned for 6 months, I'm still on anti-psychotics 2 years later, the visions and daydreams are gone along with the vibrant high energy levels and now all I have left are annoying and pretty useless voices.
I wouldn't give up based on what I said, go for it. I get money every two weeks for my condition so I guess it paid off a bit but I'm too busy with school to develop much magically, which really should take top priority as magical stuff not being in order is really screwing my head up.
No.17945
>>17942Damn, that sounds rough, I am genuinely sorry to hear that. Why do you continue to take them? I read here that after a year or two they can shrink your brain by 8-12%. Unsure how truthful that is though. I was on Olanzapine / Zyprexa for 5 months after being released, being tapered off and went fully off a month before I was 'allowed'. I imagine most mental issues could be easily managed by control over thoughts and balancing the elements, as taught in Bardon's system of 'Hermetics' or via other magical means.
No.17948
>>17925Fair enough. Hard to know what his true 'teachings' actually are, considering they've been corrupted and not given to the public properly. Many better teachers to look up to imo.
By the way, this article may be a better start if you're into 'fringe' subjects:
http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/Mysterium-Tremendum(1945990).htm & this abridged version would be better actually
http://www.3rdeyetribe.com/index.htm No.17949
No.17952
>>17945I take them mostly because I can't sleep without them, when I don't sleep my mind turns into nightmare mode.
I can control the voices somewhat using the LBRP, I can turn them up or down depending on how I do the ritual.
A lot of what I experience is due to telepathy/a high degree of empathy and people reading skills. So real world events can take things somewhat out of my hands sometimes.
I've been through some pretty harsh initiatory trials by unnamed groups of totally non-traditional yet practical and very real occultists. I'd go so far to call them the (or A) real illuminati if I didn't know better about it being largely compartmentalised, fractured and memetic.
Problem is I don't know to what degree I'm actually being initiated or whether I have my own path to follow or am just being loosh farmed.
No.17956
>>17952Surely there are far more beneficial replacements to aid getting to sleep? I think I had problems getting to sleep when going off mine.
I am familiar with your very interesting 'A True Initiation' thread. Any updates on that? I suspected I was in a somewhat similar situation a while ago, to a far lesser degree, (saw a larger than usual gold astral light, may have been a triangle, as I typed that) though I'd rather not go into detail.
Are you familiar with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology) ?
No.17959
>>17956Yeah I'm looking at getting something to help sleep while I come off the anti-psychotics but most stuff I've tried so far doesn't help.
Haven't really had any more experiences as extreme as I described in that thread, I'm pretty sure its something most people go through or at least are aware of although maybe not always to such a weird degree. I'm kind of at a disadvantage as I've spent a few years not being social at all so it's an annoyingly unique and alienating perspective to have. Kind of a Plato's Cave situation.
The main difference is now I no longer have my own thoughts, I only ever recieve other peoples thoughts which come with a built "truth" or "false" feel to them, the only way I can really express myself in thought these days is through speech and writing.
I'll read up on that link, think I've heard of it before but it seems relevent.
No.17961
>>17959I've always slept on my stomach, which is the worst sleeping position, so last week I switched to the supposed best position (on right side, while hugging pillow with legs and arms), then a few days later I started sleeping on floor (with sleeping bag, then yoga mat), which has many benefits. These are difficult switches for most people however I managed it very easily by taking L-Theanine (400mg which is very high, but the only quantity I could find in store) before bed, as well as other good before bed habits, like eliminating light and relaxing. Give that a try if you haven't already.
That seems like it would be tough to cope with. I read a book called Silent Power earlier this month and the author mentioned how we pick up the thoughts of others often without realizing it.
"Other people's thoughts constantly permeate your reality, jumping into your mind unannounced, masquerading as yours. You know they do… deep within the subconscious, you're picking up all manner of though-forms that drift in your direction."
In Autobiography of A Yogi it is said that "Thoughts are no more than very gentle vibrations moving in the ether."
Anyway, good luck getting off the meds if you decide to do so. Hopefully the damages haven't been too bad to your brain or you can recover quickly and thanks again for your advice.
No.17979
Are there any spells that will make my gf want to break up with me? I know it sounds weird, but my gf is crazy in love with me but I don't love her back. I feel reluctant to break up with her because I don't know how she'd react. Is there some sort of spell I could perform to make her gradually stop loving me and just want to break up?
No.17986
>>17979Why does your girlfriend love you, is she afraid of being alone or not in a relationship, or does she genuinely love you?
No.17988
>>17979Don't be a pussy, just say it's not working out for you
No.17990
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Just got my x-rays back and I've got "moderate" scoliosis. What does /fringe/ recommend?
Pic related.
No.17992
>>17990Try sleeping on the floor or hard surface. It has many benefits, including fixing back problems like scoliosis.
No.17994
>>17990swimming laps in the pool and getting medical massages helped me as well as what
>>17992 said
No.17997
Last night before sleep I tried the meditation from Regardie's The Art of True Healing: Kabbalistic Meditation book. I could only remember two of the holy names but afterwards I had an introspective healing dream that fitted to my life really well after a long while of just having nightmares.
Might just be a coincidence or maybe those holy names really worked, I never held much stock in believing that they would before. What do you guys think?
No.18003
it seems the official angle on 'transcendental meditation' is that you gotta pay for a course ..
they say it 'increases your consciousness' and may be 'a bit like tripping balls'
something about meditating to a sound…
what's the /fringe/ angle?
No.18009
>>18003a lot of meditation increases your consciousness in one way or another
I would personally by very wary of any groups that ask for money in return for their knowledge, especially if they require monthly payments
No.18016
>>18003I've heard its a con. In one of his one man shows Ken Campbell (the guy who put on the theatre production of illuminatus) paid for an intro meeting and was given a super secret mantra of "bongo" and told to repeat it to himself until something happens.
No.18017
>>18003
>Ken Campbell talked about how hefix'd
He thought it was bollocks and he's a fairly respectable occultist, was friends with robert anton wilson and others and a lot of his theatre productions included occult material.
He also talked a lot about the cathars who were a gnostic sect. Apparently they got the idea of having buttsex to piss off the demiurge as it was considered anti-life subverting procreation and were burnt alive by the inquisition for it.
On the other hand one time he finished a show at the fortean (fringe type stuff) society by having a woman strip get on all fours, be hidden behind a small curtain while her asshole was filled with water from a funnel and then removed the curtain and sprayed the water into the audience. So I guess you could say he was a little degenerate.
Seriously though, paying for occult material is fishy, especially when celebrities are backing it.
Maybe you could check torrent sites or theoccult.bz (if anyone has an invite please share) to see if their courses or videos or whatever have been leaked so you can at least check it out?
Despite what I said about paying for courses I have been considering Jason Miller's one year course in magic, I like his books and his approach but he does need a damn proof reader cus his english skills are annoyingly lacking. Does anyone have any experience with Miller's course?
No.18022
>>17938Anyone seriously? cause i plan to tour the infinite universes for power/people/kicks and i want to come back to my proper universe the one i originated in not just a identical one, and i want the same for the universes i visit i want to go back to the same ones again not identical copies.
No.18025
>>18022It's just paranoia. If you travel around, you're going to be bound to your physical body by a silver thread.
You can't end up in a "different universe".
No.18027
>>18017I don't think it's fair to assume that just asking for money is a sign of ill will.
All trades that provide a service that people want require money, why should the occult be any different?
Saying that, scientology has cast a pretty dark shadow over the whole paying for occult info thing.
No.18029
Can we please get the layout of /fringe/ changed? The mouse pointer is annoying, the screen is bright af, the post date an number is hard to read, and that spinning wheel on the bottom ugh.
No.18030
>>18029Agreed.
Although the theme can be changed in the bottom of the page to the right is the penta-merry-go-gram theme always spinning in the background, so for those of us with slower computers is it a bit annoying to first wait for it to load before it's changed to the chosen theme.
The board creator is playing around with CSS and trying to learn how to use it (which is fine) but the pentagram theme is fucking atrocious (no offense, Smiley).
No.18034
>>18029Check out 420chans "options" section on the top of the bar at top of screen. Something like that to change between different layouts would be cool.
No.18039
what is loosh?
No.18058
Can we have a cathar flag? Their symbol is pretty cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
>The idea of two gods or principles, one being good the other evil, was central to Cathar beliefs. The good god was the God of the New Testament and the creator of the spiritual realm, as opposed to the bad god, whom many Cathars identified as Satan, creator of the physical world of the Old Testament.Also anyone got a good guide to working with chakras?
No.18060
Anyone knows a diety called Yggrir? Female and she probably contacted me last night
No.18090
Hello, guys. I think I need some help.
Firstly, sorry for my grammar and unnecessary commas, I hope you'll be able to understand me.
Lately I've been having some bad experiences. ~1month ago I developed a habit of meditating for 10-15 mins before sleep. It helped me with my insomnia a lot, I started having more vivid and less nightmarish dreams. Everything was good, but about 3 days I go, I felt really uncomfortable in my room even though everything was okay. I just solved my relationship problems, I felt physically safe and emotionally stable. But when I tried to meditate I started feeling unexplainable, uncontrollable fear mixed with the feeling of being watched. I had this feeling before (actually, I had some problems with my mental health because of this… idk, 'activity'?) but it's like the spirit or whatever that is is getting stronger. That night, I left my desk lamp on (YES, IT'S CHILDISH, I KNOW :D) and just when I was falling asleep it fell down. Following night I had a dream where I was standing in the same room, my dog standing beside me and she was growling on that entity, presence, spirit, whatever that is, even though it was not visible.
I know that this sounds quite silly and unimportant but I feel stuck, because I'm losing the ability to control my emotions, thoughts, I don't feel safe while meditating and I can't find a way to release all these emotions building up inside of me. Wat to do /fringe/?
If you had the patience to read all of this, thank you. Also, thanks for answering.
No.18096
>>18090http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/rit_banishintro.htmlBanishing will sort it out. You can choose the one above for its ease to remember or you can use a slightly more complex version here…
http://www.wikihow.com/Perform-the-Lesser-Banishing-Ritual-of-the-PentagramIf that's too much ground and protect yourself before meditating. To ground visualise roots going from your legs to the center of the earth connecting you to it, feel the strength of the earth. To protect visualise yourself being bathed in white light from above, know it will protect you from any negative influences.
You could even do lbrp and then the grounding and protection visualisations too if you feel the need to.
No.18105
>>18090>:Djusus, but what
>>18096 said and in addition to that try filling either your room or your whole house with golden coloured energy to force any negative entities out
No.18116
>>18090Tell the entity to come my way, sounds like one I'd like to gut of all its loosh without any reservations, and assimilate into my being.
>>18096Fuck banishing it, I want to cannibalize it of its essence, and I am particularly strong right now so I should be able to defeat it. I want him to tell that entity to come for me. Make it overconfident by saying I'll be an easy target or some shit. Make a sigil of the Cult of Smileberg symbol and fill it with blood, that should create the link… or just fucking talk to it and then visualize this symbol and send it my way.
No.18132
Are there any ways through magics or meditation, whatever it is you have the most experience with, to cause severe migraines merely by intention towards others?
I would only use this knowledge for good. There exists in our society those who just randomly go off on people who aren't responsible for things. They're completely innocent. A fist to the face every time would land someone in jail.
I would not use this for evil intent. I do not possess that kind of personality. Please be as specific as possible as if you're teaching a 5 year old child how to do it.
No.18135
>>18132Have you been living under a rock? voodoo dolls.
Get a piece of hair, or nails, or soething connected to the victim, put it into a voodoo doll, stick pins in the head
No.18147
As somewhat of a neophyte, what I'm really wondering is how the etheric and astral planes relate to everyday life. In other words, I've learned enough about what these planes are, their nature, how they appear, etc. but I haven't quite ordered it all. What I'm wondering is, when I'm going about my daily mundane life, what part of this do I pick up on and go, "This is the invisible reality"?
A few days ago I was thinking about this and suddenly thought that the "sixth sense" is one such manifestation. The subtle "presence" of everything around you and the impression it conveys to your mind. Often when I meditate, or when I'm falling asleep, I feel a distinct presence floating around me, with that same kind of subtle feeling as if it were a person waving their arms above my head. I wouldn't be surprised if it's some actual entity I can't see. But again, is this what I'm experiencing? The all-pervasive ether?
No.18148
>>18147Shit, and here's my flag.
No.18151
>>17986>>17988I'm pretty sure she actually loves me but she's also pretty young (don't worry, not underage) so I don't think she totally knows what true love is. Also she might be a little on the crazy side, so I'm afraid if I break up with her wrong she'll hit me with a false rape charge and I'll go to prison. I really just wish she wasn't in love with me and that I could easily break up with her, but that's not the case.
No.18161
>>18132You'll get pretty bad karma for this but try breathing in energy, once in your body fill it with all your hate and your pure desire to harm the person, imagine that the energy turns to black with your hateful intent, breathe it out and visualize it entering the target.
Be aware too much of it can really fuck someone up, possibly for life unless you or another wizard is willing to heal the target.
No.18172
Hi /fringe/
I wanted to know method of containing my sexual desire/lust, and thinking of sex
is there a mantra or magical method to get rid of this masturbation addiction?
No.18175
how do i purge pop music from my head?
walking into grocery stores with music playing ruins my meditation for the whole day
No.18179
>>18172Look up HAM SAH, it's what does the trick for me.
No.18187
>>18025is there a way to make like a String? or something that can pull me back to the universes i have beem on cause you underestimate the nature of infinite universe which the greatest physicist have confirmed
No.18188
No.18189
What do you guys know about the Lectorium Rosicrucianum?
No.18194
No.18195
>>18194fuck it should i just ask astral entities?
No.18197
>>18195If I were you I'd create some kind of grounding object like a totem in inception.
No.18200
>>18195Are there astral entities willing to teach the works? and a way to seek out cause i havnt projected yet.
No.18202
>>18179>HAM SAHokay so what exactly, is it a meditation or what?
like does it stop me from masturbating when I am edging then I stop?
No.18218
>>18135Right. Because all I have to do is get a piece of hair, nails or anything of theirs and put it on a voodoo doll and then stick pins. I tried that when I was a teenager with my friend. "lol I feel nothing". Hate to break it to you, but that only works in Hollywood movies.
>>18161I don't tell anyone this, but I do breathe in energy. Sometimes I like to stand outside at night in the cold. Makes me feel powerful, especially if there's wind. The majority of the time it will rain that morning, but throughout my life I have tried to affect people with it and failed. My body is filled with hate towards them and my pure desire to harm the petty bastards is black with that destructive urge. Nothing happens. Maybe I'm only making those people more assholes than they already are.
No.18224
r/ing the infographic on how to do saturninan jew magic on jewt, something like staring at the sigil and sending dread to him…
thanks
also what the fuck happened to the format and can I change it? its damn near impossible to read with all the bedazzling
No.18246
No.18260
Might I be given ways to start magic for the reason that I lack mental capabilities?
No.18264
What happened to the banner thread?
What if I want to submit a banner?
No.18265
>>18175I try replacing the noise with something else.
I imagine a glass helmet on my head full of water, like a fishbowl. I imagine hearing that muffled underwater noise it would make, and usually I can start ignoring the music.
No.18344
does the astral even obey our laws of time? cause say if i want to know the ending of something or financial event? will it work or will i get a potential timeline?
No.18357
What is a Shaman and how do i become one
No.18358
why is universe
how in the fuck?
No.18361
No.18368
Anyone read Bio-etheric Healing by Trudy Lanitis? If so, how is it? I'm looking for a pdf but can't find one, so not sure if it's worth buying.
No.18375
What do you greenpills think about capitalism?
No.18405
>>18344not how it works, astral planes cannot be used to see the future in our density to my knowledge.
No.18410
Anybody hear of Jinn State? This group claims that their high adepts can go into a trance like state in which their bodies can transcend the laws of physicality. When I was a part of this group, the instructor stated that he taught a student to walk on air with these techniques. He also explained how the highest teachings are taught in Jinn State. Thoughts?
http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/the-yellow-book/1136-jinn-state.html No.18414
What's so significant about 3am? Yes, I've already googled this. It's called the witching hour, or the hour of the wolf. Some believe it's because Christ died on 3pm. But I'm not satisfied with this information and thought I could ask you. Of course, I'm going to continue my little 'research' but if you know something about this, please share.
No.18415
>>18414If you're sensitive, then you know that between 3 and 5 AM, the worlds are closest. It's almost like a mini Samhain.
Devils hour.
No.18416
>>18375I think that everyone has a different opinion and if someone thinks that the popular opinion of the frequent posters of this board should be adopted to be accepted, or applied to all member, that person needs to think a little bit more.
No.18417
>>18357Read the Shamanic Path for an anthropological and mildly spiritual take on shamanism.
No.18419
>>18202The idea of HAM SAH is to cycle your sexual energy before you start wanking your junk. This and other methods can be found here
>>11322>>11324>>11325Also, look up Nadi Shodhan Pranayama, and Anulom Vilom Pranayama.
No.18432
Does anyone here know who Bleedinglungs or Copypaste is? Or are they here?
No.18465
Hi
I have severe noise anxiety and get extremely stressed from it.
Assuming I have no money to move out or improve isolation, what do I do to rid myself of it or to escape from it?
Some video on hermeticism said the things I focus on will keep growing, so would there be any way to stop this noise?
Someone please help I'm suffering 24/7.
No.18469
ill post it here to cuz whynot. does this count as proof of magical power.
happen within a weeks span and i willed both of them to happen
No.18471
>>18465I'm not sure of the problem you have, but I do know how to block noise. have you tried noise blocking with earplugs?
or noise generators?
http://www.simplynoise.comhttp://www.mynoise.net No.18472
>>18469first one looks kinda shooped but i made multipal and dual screen screenshots of it so i can go find them and upload it, but all the other text in that pic is as distorted as the post number
No.18479
>>18471I tried earplugs and noise-blocking headphones but they start hurting after 10 minutes, and unbearable after 20.
I can't stand any noise.
My room is not well isolated, so I hear some sounds from outside and sounds from neighbours.
It stresses me to the point I get severe headaches.
No.18484
Question to astronomists and astrologers - What planet does this symbol represents?
Really curious, couldn't find any info about it in the web.
No.18487
>>18484None, it's just a mixture of symbols created recently by faggots.
No.18532
>>17879read short guide to scrying
No.18564
Sup fringe
Neophyte here. I'm planning to do an astral meetup with a mundane friend. Neither of us have really astral travelled, and we got no idea where to start or how to actually meet. What to do?
No.18573
>>18564Read Robert Bruce - Mastering Astral Projection, you can find it in the fringe mega folder.
No.18593
>>18573Can't find them in both folders.
No.18598
>>18593It's in this one.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!6kJzEIJb!aVVgmWAM-aP_bU_8Co43FAFolder Robert Bruce.
Two of the files are this book, I believe only the RB-MAP.pdf is complete.
No.18599
No.18618
Hey guys, I have a question regarding visualization.
I've been interested in occult for a long time, but I got serious studying it when I found this board.
I've already read the kybalion two or three times, the theory of IIH twice and some other from fringe essentials folder.
I started with step 1 of IIH two months ago or so. Now I can control my thoughts.
I got to step 2 and it talks about visualization
How could I know I'm visualizating something correctly? It's as see with eyes but see or thoughts or it's as see with mind? Does it make a sort of interference between physical things and mental things? Like if you visualizate a hamburger in front of you, then one shouldnt see the orange which is in front of you.
I don't want to hurry because I want to do things in the right way.
If visualization is "seeing with the mind" I think I've been doing this for a long time. Maybe I can't visualize something complex like a chess match but regular things like mobile phones, hands, people, books, texts, paints, balls or anything which is not changing everytime I can visualize them as long as I want.
Thankyou in advance for reading this and for helping me in my path.
No.18620
so in the astral could i instantly learn a language?
No.18627
NOT A QUESTION JUST SAYING THE NEW LAYOUT IS SHIT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE COMPLAINED EVER ABOUT A LAYOUT. BUT THE MONTALK SHIT IS FUCKING STUPID FUCK WHAT THE FUCK MONTALK IS FUCKING SHIT FUCK
No.18655
>>18627fucking this
this place looks like a 14 year olds xanga or myspace page
please revert to just the basic format, this is what we get for having 14 year old mods
No.18656
>>18655CSS is nice IMO
>>18627>MONTALK SHIT IS FUCKING STUPID FUCK WHAT THE FUCK MONTALK IS FUCKING SHIT FUCKthanks for the loosh
No.18674
>>18058>Also anyone got a good guide to working with chakras?The Book of Knowledge
If you have not checked that out.
No.18687
>>18674I have read pretty much every site worth reading and many books on chakras to the point there's nothing new for me to find out about them and anything I come across now is redundant and repeats what I've already read and I even built an entire building in Minecraft where each level was dedicated to and colour-coded for each chakra and I've taken many notes and have my own highly effective chakras meditation. I've also made several threads both on old /fringe/ and new /fringe/ on this topic, if they aren't 404'd, you might be able to dig them up.
Book of Knowledge, Holographic Universe, New Energy Ways, some texts by Lobsang Rampa; all mention chakras.
The wikipedia page is good too and doing a search with DDG can get more results and you can find out about the researchers and authors and what they've said and what the different lineages of various esoteric traditions from Rosicrucians to various Buddhists and New Age and so on.
The chakras meditation I use started off simple and I developed it into really complex form that I've continually elaborated and it incorporates many different elements into it at once.
Fringe Wizard Chakra Meditations 1.1I began to do chakra meditations before I knew about chakras by just focusing on the points corresponding to the chakras on my body as well as generally shifting my consciousness around to try to be aware of acutely only specific organs, limbs, segments, points, etc. in the body.
I upgraded this by adding in visualization with white and golden spheres.
Later on I improved on that further by colour coding each sphere; red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, purple.
It's a good meditation that combines multiple aspects, visualization, feeling, etc.
Transferring energy into chakras, spinning them, putting thoughtforms into or connected to them, has a variety of strange effects.
It took a really long time for me to work things out to the current system I have and at first it didn't do much for months but now it's so powerful that I try not to overdo it or create any imbalances that throw me off.
I have done them in random order, top-to-bottom, and bottom-to-top; now I pretty much always just do the bottom-to-top.
The focal points tend to be mid-way in the body but sometimes I also run my focus up the front of the body and down the spine or vice versa and strange effects may happen that alter your energy/fatigue level.
I find also that focusing on certain chakras has different effects, e.g. increasing the pressure at the third eye (ajna) chakra seems to increase visual capacity. I think pressure may be a sign of blockage though and you kind of have to burst through it and get it flowing properly again. Lots of pressure can build up there it seems if it's not actively used often.
I do this multiple times every day and night because it's simple and helpful. It's possible to use every sense to effect a chakra, you can do a sound-based meditation on each chakra, you can vibrate them, you can smell (or infuse with smell) them, etc.
I developed my practise with chakra meditations very slowly over a very long time, trying out many different things, read pretty much everything that's out there on the internet about them that doesn't get redundant, to get to where I'm at right now with them.
It has pretty profound physiological effects on the body. You can cause huge changes in your body with this. This is easily demonstrable for me to do btw if anyone ever wants to visit me and see some of the random shit I could do with it.
I also usually finish off my standard chakra meditation with visualizing a crown of spouting light/water releasing from the head like a fountain.
I think that every chakra point can be programmed with thought, energized with loosh, and that there is likely a correspondence between the metaphysical chakras and their physical counterparts. As above, so below; as below, so above. It becomes apparent to me when at a higher level of awareness and having good thought control that thoughts can be attached in any part of the body and reside there and exercise a continuous influence on you and that the chakra points being very highly charged energetic centres are a place where mental programs and attached thoughtforms reside in the highest density and are powered the strongest.
Awareness of chakras and performing operations on them can change you in significant ways on all planes of being. It can change personality, store memories, etc.
No.18688
>>18687I should probably upgrade my guide to 1.2 to add in new stuff I've done and learned since then… but whatever, this will cover any neophytes for now, along with the various books.
No.18689
>>18627>>18655>>18656Please discuss CSS in my birthday thread not in here.
No.18698
No.18705
Does anyone know or does anyone ever made contact with entities from non-known human civilizations?
I'm meaning; were there civilizations prior to the ice age? Atlantis, for example?
No.18706
>>18344Every plane abides by the law of Hermes;
as above, so below.
What happens in the higher planes, will happen in the lower ones, and vice versa. Therefore, in theory, yes. How it exactly works, I don't know.
No.18710
>>18618I believe visualisation is more "seeing with the mind" (and hearing/feeling/smelling/tasting). It's a skill almost everyone has to some degree, but can be developed much further.
I'm not sure if the seeing objects in back of eyelids/in front of you in reality is extremely advanced visualisation or astral vision or some combination of the two. For further clarification, Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways has something on visualisation near the beginning.
No.18713
>>18710I'll try that then, ty for answering!
No.18720
Do you guys think that's it's possible to take out the heat trapped underneath the ozone layer and to repair the ozone layer as a group effort using Magick?
Polar Bears are one of my favorite animals and I don't want to see them go the way of the Dodo.
No.18732
WHY DID YOU HAVE TO RUIN THIS BOARD? WHY? WHERE IS SMILEY?
No.18738
>>18732Having intergalactic adventures
No.18742
I had a strange experiance today and wanted to know if anyone knew what it was.
I was meditating away from home. Eventually I decided to focus on my third eye, trying to pull energy into it. After a while, perhaps 15 minutes, I felt disorientated and then suddenly came back as if waking from sleep suddenly. There were some images I remembered which appear to be of inside my home.
This felt very different from the images I normally see in my mind which can almost be described as a stream of randomness.
No.18750
So, anyone have a good /fringe/ definition of an Ogre? I obviously know what they are in terms of folklore, but I was curious if there was better, more accurate description of what they were, magically speaking.
No.18763
So I read the Kybalion, and I put the whole polarization Idea into action.
>be into some girl I've met, see her on dating site in top list of people to date(also synchronicity?)
>Afraid of rejection if i message her
>check website for weeks to occasionally see if shes still in my top list
>at the start she fluctuated from my 75th person up to ~25th and stayed around there
>as soon as she crosses my mind I feel a deep intense anxiety of fear in my chest
>say over and over again that I can change it to courage
>try to tell myself excuses like my computer is off, and that im trying to sleep etc…
>just get up and fucking message her
So she responded and at first I had anxiety, but now that we've has a small dialogue I just feel nothing.I don't even know If i want to date her anymore. I don't know what to say or talk about.
No.18766
>>18763(same person)
So I want advice. Is this actually applying the principle depicted in the Kybalion, or do I not get it? Is this not how mental transmutation is used?
No.18792
Can somebody post some fun rituals I can do? I realize that I can do anything I want with magic but nothing really comes to mind.
No.18798
>>18720Magic that can affect the whole planet is pretty monumental and it's theoretically possible if you could gather a cabal of wizards dedicated to saving the environment.
You could possibly neutralize the heat by filling the atmosphere with the water element but most people have trouble with filling a room with it let alone the atmosphere.
No.18799
>>18766You just talked more to a girl and realized you don't have any common interests so you've got nothing to talk about.
This happens a lot.
>>18792how about learning to astral project or trying to transmute your negative character traits into positive ones?
magic is fun but it's really hard work once the novelty wears off.
>>18792 No.18868
>>18799>implying magick ever stops being excitingJust come and astral travel to my room for a good time. I'm always engaged in beautiful magickal works.
No.18902
What practice(s) can I do to break out of addiction? I am good at meditation but alcohol and porn are destroying me.
No.18904
Any idea how I could stop smoking?
Conventional methods were not very effective.
I basically smoke to kill some time cus I'm getting bored easily.
No.18905
>>18902>>18904 (me)
eh lol, addiction is a thing in here I guess
No.18906
>>18902>>18904Definitely look up auto-suggestion. It's talked about very early in IIH.
No.18911
No.18914
>>18798Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully I can work towards making this happen
No.18925
Which muscle is it that stimulates kundalini? PC or BC or some other shit? The one you flex when you take a shit, the one you stop urine, the one you increase flow of urine… ?
How to live through heart center instead of luciferian head?
No.18957
Hey fringe I just recently just started getting into the Occult, I'm in the process if reading all the fringe essentials in the mega, but with all this new found information I feel so disconnected from everyone, they all just seem like sheep and I can't talk to someone without wondering who they actually are, espically my girlfriend.
tldr how do I get along with people and live an okay life here on this earth
No.18959
>>18957Fuck beliefs, world dont exist turn off external input
No.18960
>>18925Just get a ton of energy flowing and force it up your spine man, I didn't need to know fuck all about muscles to cause my kundalini awakening years ago.
No.18961
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>>18957Well anon, if you are like me, you can just subtly influence their development and try to raise them to your level. I think
The Universal Master Key will help you. I know that feel though, so many lesser developed beings around me, but I've really advanced some people rapidly in a few months and all without any obvious influence. Trying to talk to them and so on is a challenge because it's best to influence people in a way where they don't know you're doing it.
A lot of humans are downright 2D beings just powered by instinct and some very basic societal programming and not much more and it's sad but you have to understand they are just animals and not true men. Like any animal they can develop more given the proper conditions though many are fated never to go far.
I am annoyed how so many people fall in love with me right away and are attracted to me because of my high level of personal magnetism and FRV. I wish more men beside myself would seek their own development in the virtues so they wouldn't be so desperate, lonely, depressed, mundane, stagnant, and mediocre. I feel like the world would be so much better if everyone was forced into isolation for a decade from 15 to 25 just to study the occult, meditate, introspect, build their minds and thoughtforms, etc. until they emerge a decade later so much more powerful and intuitive and developed than before.
What pains me most though is the people that hook onto me, the ones I meet on my journey, who I feel sorry for and want to help. I always want to help people. Love keeps me here but at the same time I always want to go higher to the more beautiful realms beyond.
No.18963
>>18961Thanks anon, its nice to know I'm not alone
No.18984
>>18961I fit this description as well.
Aside from people staring at me every time I go out even people online seem to always seek my advice on things.
I suppose we must work tirelessly to better our people and show them the way.
Live life as if we're helper souls sent here to better humanity.
No.18985
I know you can use magic to increase your learning abilities but is there specific guides that relate to enhancing learning
No.18989
>>18985Can't really help you with guides but learning ability expands when you learn the ability to concentrate on something for extended periods of time.
Additionally you could visualize the lesson where you learned something before going to bed for added memorization.
My question is for wizards who are on or past step 4 of the IIH. I have successfully been able to transfer my mental body into another human allowing me to sense his thoughts and mood but I am unable pinpoint his exact location. Is there a way to access a persons' astral sense of feeling or his physical visuals to discern their location?
No.19050
>>18984Do you think humanity is so unattended to, that it requires your help, specifically?
Focus on perfecting yourself, then do as you like from there.
No.19054
Who is Smileberg?
No.19055
>>19050What I mean by helping humanity is pointing out the mental weaknesses of people and changing their line of thinking.
Due to my increased personal magnetism, people who interact with me are accepting my ideals, thoughts and even start speaking in a style similar to mine.
This allows me to put them on the path away from the modern hedonism and to a more pure and traditional lifestyle.
Doing whatever I like is a dangerous mindset.
As my power grows so does the temptation to abuse it despite my efforts with emotional alchemy.
Having a noble goal in mind is one of the things that stops me from going full STS but still drives me to better myself for the sake of my race.
No.19068
How can I become a cute anime school girl living in an anime world? inb4 astral projection, i want this to last a lifetime
No.19074
>>19054Well known poster on 4chon, admin/creator of /fringe/ and freedomboard, also known as Fringe Wizard.
No.19087
>>19068Step 1: Create an astral space.
Step 2: Reduce loosh/vril wastage, learn to relax all your muscles at all times except when tension is actually needed
Step 3: Consume potent sources of loosh and engage in loosh farming.
Step 4: Store your loosh in containing vessels and thoughtforms in your astral space.
Step 5: Use abundance of loosh to create and power more complex thoughtforms.
Step 6: Create a time dilation thoughtform.
Step 7: Find passage to the anime world you want to live in.
Step 8: Travel there, use time dilation, experience easily a year or maybe hundred years in that universe, come back eventually to this world after having lived out all you wanted to in that one.
No.19102
>>19087Can't this be adapted to create a time dilation where I can learn 100 years of time in 1 hour? something like Goku training in the Kami room.
No.19173
>>14140Some entity might be a pimp and your its whore.
Might want to call a priest or something.
No.19181
What's the Arcane A.Z.F. ?
Gnostics seem to refer to it a lot, but a preliminary jewgle search doesn't bring up anything concrete…
No.19211
No.19215
Is satanism real, or is it just some kids stuff, made up by christians themselves to make all occult,magick,etc. things look bad,spoopy and evil?
No.19221
>>19215I resonate extremely fucking strongly with black magick and am a sinister fuck who doesn't even want to do this shit I just… it's too fucking easy for me, it's my natural talent. Anyways, all Satanism sucks dick and isn't worth your time, the best form is simple non-dogmatic Theistic Satanism and trying to have your own personal relationship with Satan. If you're going to be a Satanist do it that way as all the cults are lame ass boomer shit that is pathetic, defunct, etc.
The thing is this mental universe works by a set of laws which are always in effect and can be used any way you want.
Are there some entities out there going by the name of Satan doing shit? Probably. I can be Satan for you if you want me to be. Just like Jesus the Mexican mowing your lawn.
Just learn 2 occult, look past the dressings, and eventually you'll uncover tons of sinister ways to use occult power such as through vampirism and other really negative shit.
If you have any consciousness you'll feel intense guilt for causing so much harm to others probably.
I don't know.
Just be careful, angels will fuck your shit up, light-side entities fuck my shit up all the time when I cross the line. If you're going to be wielding mad black magick shit do it against other demons and entities at a very low vibration and the higher beings will be less likely to interfere.
I'm fighting my way out of the pit of hell. I'd try not to join me down here if you can avoid it and you're got a good nature. Don't be a fucking pussy though, sometimes it's worth it being down here.
No.19223
>>19221You're the sorcerer who eats bones and drinks blood?
Wanna tell a story?
No.19224
>>19223Yes I do that and lots of other fucked up shit.
There's a dude who posted this really extreme black magick technique on /fringe/ btw that I sometimes do but fuck it is really dangerous. I'm not sure if it's still on here or not and I can't remember who posted it. It's like loosh farming on steroids.
Wonder if it's still around and anyone is daring and stupid enough to use it and potentially provoke some serious backlash.
I've already posted lots of stories. I don't feel like retelling anything, I'll post more when something new happens.
No.19234
Is loosh and swag the same thing?
No.19235
No.19238
>>19181It's Samael Aun Weor stuff, isn't it? If I recall correctly it's "white sexual magic", he calls it "white" because it's done with a single fixed partner and without ejaculation. The object is to ultimately use the sexual energy to create an immaterial body to which the practioner can transfer his conscience after death.
No.19267
Today, as I was walking through my house, I saw a panther about 2 1/2 ft from its paw to its back. Laying on the floor in a hallway staring up at me. After I walked by it, I turned back to see it again but it was gone. Is there any significance to this?
No.19268
Are there any paths that strike a balance in focus between Immanence and Transcendence?
No.19270
Can anyone share some tips on trance inducing meditation, i go through the muscle relaxation into rhythmic breathing into the falling techniques but i can't seem to induce a proper trance.
No.19279
>>19270You're in some kind of trance state all the time. What are you looking to achieve?
No.19280
>>19279I want to be able to astral project, i try get into the deepest trance state that i can and then feel myself out of body in my mind, that's the technique I've been trying.
No.19281
Is there a non-jew version of this practice? I just find it hard to remember the names - any quick experiments would be appreciated, really. I just want to quell a few doubts about magic that I've been having, since I'm losing some motivation to read the basics.
No.19283
>>19281Make your own words of power chaos magick style, use the formula for making sigils and just jumble the letters into something that you can use instead of the jew gods. Make it appropriate to each section of the body, maybe use a pantheon you connect to or that symbolise what you want or just affirmation type stuff.
No.19284
>>19283Shit son, I went back to that image a bit before you replied, just reading through the instructions again and memorised them all. I feel like a true son of david now.
No.19286
>>19281Could someone more advanced try this and tell me what they experienced? All I saw was just light and patterns, and felt tingly. Did I do something wrong?
No.19293
Why I cant enter in the skype group? I try but nothing happens.
No.19296
http://www.kopimi.com/kopimi/Thoughts?
It's the only link that works on the piratebay site, a little "k" in the low center No.19303
>>19286This is just an incomplete chakra meditation with some jewish deity name vibrating.
Visualizing all chakras and focusing on energising them instead of praying to jewgods will provide the same if not a better result.
No.19321
Lords Prayer
"Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us our sins
as we forgive those who sin against us.
Save us from the time of trial
and deliver us from evil.
For the kingdom, the power, and the glory are yours
now and for ever. Amen."
>your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.
This sounds like straight out of Kybalion,so Did christians pulled a lot of stuff out from hermetic teahings put it in their doctrine and afterwards called the very same school of thought very,very evil?
No.19348
Is it possible to create a virtual room like people do with tulpas?
I want to isolate myself from the world (so no sounds hearable either).
How to do?
No.19351
>>19348Create a mini isolation tank by wearing a blindfold in the bath and putting corks in your ears.
No.19352
Is there anything mystic about Scriabin's mystic chord?
What's the consensus on Scriabin (not just his work but him as a person)?
No.19353
>>19351Dude what.
I want something like a virtual room I can visit anytime, not that.
No.19354
>>19353You can achieve that through imagination. If you want a book for it try project sanctuary which is all about creating a personal virtual room type thing.
No.19358
>>19354Alright, where do I find that book in pdf? I get ambiguous results when searching.
No.19363
How can I make a genius tulpa, which will remember everything I see and give me an insight with its super intelligence? Is doing normal tulpa will suffice?
No.19375
>>19363I have this and it kind of sucks. Insight into everything can suck, mostly because people suck.
No.19378
No.19379
>>19378Disregard that you can get a pdf for £15 on that site
No.19403
>>19375really? how? do you have a tulpa? tell more
I just thought that having genius tulpa would be extremely convienet, in terms of education and basically every other facet of life.
No.19406
>>19403I went through a period of Jungian active-imagination, developed a sense of interacting with tulpas in a genuine full on way that seemed real and not forced, developed an internal family of different tulpas representing parts of me, then went from a long period of seclusion into social interaction, now I have said genius tulpa and can read minds.
I'm not sure how/if that could be reproduced as it all kinda happened on its own.
No.19442
>>19406>reading mindswell,that's not what I wanted
No.19451
>>19442Insight in social situations is pretty much the same thing.
No.19457
Are staffs legit?
if they are where does one acquire a dope ass wizard staff
No.19459
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>>19457Yeah they are legit, I should show you my staves.
>have a pocket knife>find a suitably thick branch>carve it down into a staff>use it like that plain for now>go into a trance>astral travel>ask entities on how to pimp your staff even more>follow their instructions>get an even more bad ass staff with magickal properties and various additions like feathers, twine, stones, carvings, charring, drops of blood infused into it, etc. depending on what you needThat's as hardcore as you can get. You can also read whatever random texts you find on this subject just like there are wand making texts (I have a pdf on it in the library and also a few other texts cover it too) but I recommend just making the basic staff and then going to the astral for further instructions. That's how true mystics bypass the third density misinformation and bullshit and get exactly what they need for their circumstances.
No.19461
fsdfds
No.19470
How do you all deal with intrusive thoughts? I've had the image of a razor blade constantly intruding when trying to do energy work, visualization, etc. Just yesterday however I asserted that the thought was not my own, and sent it back to whatever directed it at me. I imagined that the blade was flung off in a direction away from me, and soon after I got the impression of a painful, monstrous groan nearby, so I think it must've worked. If you do something different, I'd be interested to hear about it.
No.19474
>>19451that's not what I want. I meant insight in problem solving, science, all that sophisticated stuff that you actually need super intelligence.
What I wanted to aim is: eidetic memory and super problem solving skills. And having a cute tulpa doing that for me is the best option ever. The only question is: how to achieve that?
No.19488
Which books should I read if I want to etherically reconfigure my body? I've had an annoying allergy to milk that I want to cure myself of, plus bad skin (possibly thanks to bad diet), plus teeth that will blow my jaw apart someday at the angles they're growing at.
No.19494
>>19488Oh man, I know that feel so hard bro. I am working on etherically reconfiguring my body right now. If it works I will make sure to explain in great detail with a big thread dedicated to it and if I can make my body pretty enough then I will take pictures of it too.
I have a stupid allergy to legumes, bad skin, and fucked up teeth.
I think a general occult knowledge is needed and it's a very advanced operation but… I'm planning it out and if I get everything I need in order I'll do it soon enough and tell about the whole thing on here.
No.19495
>>19470lol you fucked some entity up read good Provur
No.19522
Are sleep interpretations bullshit?
I think I've been visited by an entity from Umbanda (Africa related, don't know the history behind it) called Iemanjá. Funny thing is I'm not associated with nothing spiritual at all and just got her name shouted at my mind on the name of a room a was in, iluminate this poor mundane's mind if you can.
No.19523
What could I do with my free time right now? Like, could I just sit down right now and astral project through a meditation session? Is this too complicated for a quick experiment, and if so, are there any other things I could do?
No.19524
>>19523Shit, I forgot my flag. I'm actually in Ireland too, maybe I could become pic related.
No.19529
>>19523Can't cut bread with a dull knife, compadre. You could do fuck all you want if your tools would work fine. You need strong concentration, good visualization capabilities with all senses (generating a sight, a smell, a sound etc.), and some emotional control for thoughtforms.
Astral Projection is a relatively hard thing to do for most people.
If you'd some small fun you could try reality creation for some minor thing or sight you don't really care much about.
No.19536
>>19529 Could you elaborate on reality creation? If there's a chance I can do it, I'll try it.
No.19544
>>19524>Irish>Not subhuman No.19546
How would I know if I were under psychic attack and if so how would I defend against it?
No.19551
>>19529How exactly does visualization aid in astral projection? I feel Like I have a natural ability to visualize decently and if that's my ticket to visiting the etheric plane, actually consciously and for an extended period of time, then I'd really like to know.
No.19611
How does one complete transmigration of the soul? I'm interested in the idea of living in a different vessel since it sounds intriguing, but I don't know where to start.
No.19621
>>19611I am working on it. I possessed a banker today but things got awkward because I couldn't access his memories and he was at work… so I left. Once I get a good new body though I'll make sure to find the internet and post on here about it from my new body.
No.19629
>>19536Find these articles:
Realneville.com pruning shears of revision, mental diets, persistent assumption, thinking fourth dimensionally
Montalk.net reality creation redux, real vs artificial synchronicity, soul resonance and music
No.19640
>>19522The problem with dream interpretations is that the only people who can interpret a dream with 100% accuracy is the person who had it in the first place when they have the know-how to do it, since apart from some general ones most symbolism may not mean something for a person than it means for another. So, like, in BRland Iemanjá is related to the moon and the sea, but I couldn't say if that would make her a good or a bad sign for you.
No.19642
My first memory is of flying around a crib and entering the baby inside. I've always been certain that I was a foreign entity who took control of the child.
Further, the longer I've been studying magic, the more and more I realize that I already have independently come up nearly all of it. I have gone through old journals of mine and found diagrams which are similiar, and sometimes the same picture as what I am looking at. The Kabalion, Arcane Teaching, Stellar Man, Magical Use of Thoughtforms, hell even revelations of an elite family insider, all of them I get an overwhelming feeling that I already know all of it.
Have any of you experienced this?
Further, my intuition tells me that I'm some magician who died and was reborn. How would I access the memories of the past?
No.19660
Why people are still believing that if you are not from X religion you are fucked no matter how good you are, I am trying to convince my family but they don't even try to think about what I am saying. Is the control so big that they can't do that?
No.19661
I've been reading Initiation into hermetics and are up to the part where you create smells and tastes in your mind, only problem is that my sense of smell is severely stunted from permanent allergies. I feel these practices are important and should not be skipped, does anyone have some advice for me, how to teach a blink man to see
No.19662
>>19661Auto suggest yourself into losing the allergies and self heal or lucid dream where you can smell anything.
No.19663
>>19662Thanks, now time to work on my lucid dreaming skills.
No.19665
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>>19662>>19663Autosuggestion is really potent, I am going so fast because of all these positive affirmations.
I'm like Formula One car at the moment!
No.19674
Neophyte here
As progressing with the Kybalion, and reading about the Me and I, I've come to this question;
Does this acknowledge that I exist at different planes at this very moment?
The whole I and me is confusing for me, as in my native language I and me is the same word. I would be very glad if someone can help me understand this.
No.19675
No.19680
>>19675Moreover, if everything has it's polarity, what would be the polar opposite of Canada, or the Netherlands?
No.19684
>>19674It is more to say that the
I is who you are in your essence, whereas the
me is the person whose life you live out from day to day, the person that others know you as. It'll all make more sense once you read the
Arcane Teachings and
Arcane Formulas.
No.19689
>>19321Christians used alot of Hermetic teachings. They said that Jesus was Logos in flesh, they used the Hermetic argument;
as above, so below to justify Jesus' divineness.
No.19695
How do I into evocation?
No.19697
>>19684So the I is the true self, while the me is ego?
No.19700
Greetings,
I've been trying for the last couple of months to increase my dream frequency because I have maybe one a night that can be partially remembered and none of the dreams I have are really vivid. For the past 7 months I've been trying to decalcify the pineal.
I'm on a heavy regiment of Apple Cider Vinegar, Gotu Kola, MSM, Nascent Iodine, Skate Fish Oil etc etc and only drink purified water and every day I jog for 10 minutes and do at least 30 minutes meditation. I also have followed the advice of people such as Robert Bruce on dream recall and attempt to remember keywords each morning to further recall dreams but I don't get much at all.
In terms of medications I'm currently taking none and refuse pharmacy medicines (and have done for the past 6 months to a year, including panadol). I also read daily and get lots of sunlight. I possibly could be on withdrawls from Cannabis but having quit a month ago I find it weird that it would take so long for dreams to increase when it seems like it occurs after 1 or 2 weeks for most individuals and I wasn't using intensively before having quit.
Is there a reason why I can't seem to dream more often? It's getting to a point where it's frustrating to sleep every night after doing so much during the day to try and further my astral ability and getting little to no results. Are there any further books I should be reading on the subject?
Any advice would be great and I thank you all even for taking the time to read this post.
No.19701
>>13455How much wood can woodchuck if woodchuck could chuck wood?
No.19705
>>19700Also should mention I was on prozac and accutane a few years ago but have detoxed my body from most of it now. After having an intense dream sometimes my eczema flares up which is weird.
Also about 8 years ago I had the most vivid dream I've ever had where I was sitting outside with my father and saw 2 moons in the sky, one white and one red (blood moon) and the red one was far smaller. I was sitting there watching them in awe and pointing at the small red moon then after a while the white moon shrunk and the red moon grew bigger to double the original size of the white moon when all of a sudden the white moon regained power and grew infinitely eclipsing the red moon by far until the moon was so large it was right in front of my face which is when I woke up. Haven't had such a dream before or since.
No.19740
>>19697Yes, the I AM is referred to the spirit while the ME is referred to your soul.
I was having the same problems since in my language both are just Я.
>>19700had the same problem, don't expect your diet to make much of a difference. what solved it for me is firm belief every night that I will dream and remember my dreams. then the first thing on my mind in the morning was remembering my dreams.
No.19745
Allright, what happened yesterday is wtf, I tried to AP and when I started to feel vibrations, I saw images of an entity that seems like a demon and then I felt a chill around the outer layers of my body. The vibrations kept going on, but I started to have sexual fantasies and I had an erection, that became bigger and bigger. I DID NOT THINK OF SEX, MERELY CONCENTRATING ON BREATHING. It kept going on until, I couldn't control it, and at a sudden moment I felt as if my energy went out of my penis away to something. Was this work of a succubus?
No.19746
No.19752
So I heard of some initiates that the astral is completely fucked up right now.
Do you guys confirm that?
I remember that even Smiley said that his area looked like a griefed minecraft server on perpetual in the fourth dimension
No.19753
>>19752
>perpetual warFix'd
No.19760
>>19740Thanks for the advice, I've tried using will but maybe I haven't mastered will yet as I don't ever 100% feel like something will happen. Like I said, any books on the subject?
I should probably mention I also have a very hard time visualizing and anything I do visualize is fleeting and of a very low quality.
>>19752That would be a very sad thing to go into but with how damaged the earth and it's electromagnetic fields are becoming I guess it's understandable. Hopefully someone reports otherwise.
No.19769
is there a way to reverse hairloss via magical means? if so pleas explain if possible or point in right direction ty!
No.19770
Mundane/fedora here. Lately, I've noticed myself reading about the occult, which is pretty uncharacteristic of me, and I've this weird feeling that something in particular is sort of drawing me in or something, but I simply haven't encountered it yet, and need to keep looking until I do. I am no stranger to meditation, hypnosis and lucid dreaming, and always had some tin foil hat tendencies, but I've simply never regarded them as magical. I've undergone a variety of changes in general, and it's like my life is facing some sort of paradigm shift. Has anyone here had a similiar experience? How do you deal with the fedora within telling you to stop fooling around?
No.19771
>>19770As the Kybalion and Arcane Teachings say, female searches for male. We're all searching for something brother, and we all must search it on the path to spiritual enlightment. The occult truly is the way of self-exploration on a vast different skill, but it is the skill of our ancestors.
Read the Kybalion first, and alot of your questions will be answered
No.19773
>>19770You just push yourself and break the old paradigm. It takes time but for me - my life has improved a lot since I got into this. Even if you don't have any dramatic experiences at the beginning, you'll grow in many ways, in awareness, power and knowledge.
I was agnostic mundane the last year before I found /fringe/. I was interested (and am still) in philosophy and comparative religion, and fringe-y stuff had always fascinated me though I didn't at the time study it.
Push yourself. It's a nagging feeling, yes? Push past it, read a lot things that might catch your attention, (but also things you might have never read, like physics, I'm sure there's good books on the recommended thread), experience with things. There was a great greenpill thread here or somewhere else that got me to think that mundane explanations just can't answer things.
Something will hopefully catch your attention and lead you further down the rabbit hole. For me it was the philosophical aspect of occultism. Maybe you need evidence? Luckily there's some of that, like I mentioned, so you can read for yourself and ponder it thoroughly
If you choose to go along with us, I assure you that you'll going to have a lot of reading and experiments to do. . . but it is fun and rewarding. And one more thing; the another type of nagging, the one that you might hear coming somewhere deep within your being - have you felt it? - it will become stronger and stronger until it is almost unbearable. That's the spirit longing for you to hear it.
Listen to it and you'll do fine.
No.19790
Is the Law of Attraction at the base of all successful magickal operations?
I very often see LoA spoken of as something for soccer moms and New Age nutters.
Can someone using "The Secret" (fortified by skills in meditation/focus/etc) cause the same sorts of results (e.g. evocation, invocation, etc) as someone doing an elaborate ceremony?
I had an experience this year where I "accidentally" put myself in the hospital last year by falling unconsciously into a trance and having a vivid daydream that subsequently manifested just as I saw it with only minor differences in detail. It happened to be one of my most profound works of "magick" (or perhaps it was divination? Either way, there wasn't a conscious will behind it.)
Anyway… Thoughts or opinions on the LoA?
No.19792
The law of attraction is a legit law, it's the last law in Hermetic principle, the law of female and male. Male energy is passive and female energy (active) seeks male energy.
We see this in atoms, in sexual life, and even in solar systems.
Influencing the law of attraction, or the law of gender, is a magickal art. It's not the base, but is more a magickal operation
No.19807
>>19792Bizarre thing just happened to me anon, I read your post as "first law in Hermetic principle" and I made sure to read your post multiple times over, like 5 times, and upon very close inspection it did indeed say "first law in Hermetic principle". Then I clicked on this thread to actually enter it and reply to you to correct you but not it says "last law in Hermetic principle".
What the fug.
>Male energy is passive and female energy (active) seeks male energy.No it's not. Female energy is passive and male energy (active) seeks female energy.
Anyways, LOA is achieved through resonance, or the sense you have what you attained. You have to resonate with the idea of the thing you wish to attain. Otherwise you just create the idea of wanting it… and get nowhere with actually attaining it.
e.g. >wishing really hard to be health
= doesn't work
>attaining the sense that you are healthy, that you have corrected your health problems, this deep conviction= does work
Pic relateds, the true LoA in a nutshell.
No.19808
My sleep schedule is erratic like waking up at noon and later, do i have to have a normal one for mastering astral projection?
No.19810
>>19808No. I go for multiple days and nights with no sleep, I sleep at completely random times, I wake up at random times of night or day, and I am a master of astral projection.
No.19811
>>19810cool so whatever period i am awake can be considered my 'day' for the 90 day guide?
No.19812
>>19811I didn't follow the 90 day guide, I found out how to AP long before I knew what it was, and independently rediscovered and developed most of the various methods of AP. I do like Robert Bruce though, great source.
Sometimes I sleep for like an hour or two, then am awake a few hours, then asleep a few hours, it's all so random.
I would just consider one 24 hour period your day… doesn't matter when you slept or did not. Different variables can influence how easy it is to AP:
Positive variables that increase likeliness of AP:
>if you are fasting>if you are full of energy and feel well rested>your visual capacity is well developed>you are able to relax well>you have lots of muscles (because muscles hold tons of vril energy / loosh in them)>you have conscious control over the use of your energy and can direct energy for major energy centres to where it's needed or direct energy into those centres (New Energy Ways covers you there)I can force myself to AP right now but am busy preparing for a fight and also preparing my room for some advanced magickal operations.
No.19815
What's /fringe/'s opinion on the Intensive Journal technique?
No.19816
How can I get rid of bad entitites on my dreams? It's getting annoying, almost everynight I'm visited by some pesky shadows that como to steal my energy, when I wake up I'm always tired.
No.19820
Can anyone assist? I'm trying to find any virus vampires. Human beings who just drink blood are not my cup of tea. I've spent half my life looking to no avail but I must find a way in before I die. I must convince a vampire virus bearing one to bring me in. I'm not a Twilight fan and I despise Hollywood's take on almost everything. I would become whatever they want me to be. Either a slave that kills who they want me to kill (with stealth of course) or fetch what they want me to fetch; or I could be of free will and occasionally do their bidding if that annoys them. Take me seriously.
No.19821
>>19820Why the fuck would I want to make you into a vampire? It takes a lot of human cattle basically to sustain just one vampire, I don't need competitors.
No.19822
>>19821Wizards can be vampires?
No.19823
>>19822Vampirism is as simple as living off of the life forces of other beings, weakening and sometimes killing them in the process, because of your parasitism. So yes wizards can be vampires. I'm not telling you my most advanced techniques for it though as they are horrendously simple and very crippling to the victims.
No.19825
>>19823 I probably wouldn't be able to do it anyway - also, to clarify, you aren't a blood drinker or anything?
No.19827
>>19825I consume blood, bones, and organs of animals.
…but to steal the vitality of other humans, no, I don't drink their blood. It is a form of direct energy transmission from their energy centres into mine. It saps them of vitality and leaves them pretty fucked up. All without having to even physically touch them.
It's really easy to do and there's a few other posters here who do it but I don't want to tell more people about it.
No.19828
>>19827That's pretty interesting, where'd you learn to do stuff like that?
No.19830
>>19828From demons, through evocation.
I also know how to ritually sacrifice and cannibalize someone for extremely advanced black magick but don't plan on putting it into effect unless maybe I end up in a warzone or somewhere that it's acceptable to have slaves and to sacrifice and eat your slaves.
It involves causing them tremendous torment too as they die but is best done on someone who willingly goes along with it, so there is preparation beforehand for this, like how the Aztecs drugged their victims and kept them in cages for days before they ultimately sacrificed them with little to no struggle on the part of the victim.
No.19831
>>19830Is evocation hard? How did you evocate for the first time?
No.19832
>>19830The Lords of Destiny, anon. Do you REALLY think any of your behavior is a good idea?
No.19834
>>19832No I think it's terrible and I'm trying to move away from it and avoid propagating it to others. I want to find ways to live off of source energy instead of being engaged in vampiric practises.
>>19831Depends upon what conditions you're working under, how much occult knowledge and skill you already have, and what you're trying to achieve with it.
It wasn't hard for me but I suggest preparing a room properly for it and getting many other things in order before doing evocation.
If you are very miserable while you do it and resonate strongly with feelings of hatred and other dark emotions the stuff you'll attract will be of a similar nature.
Obviously, I started evocation while in the pits of depression and despair. Not really a good idea.
However, strong emotions either way are very necessary. If you can reach gnosis through intense hatred but just can't whip up that same level of love, what can you do? That's the problem. I have a dark past, terrible surroundings, and suffered a lot. So I used that suffering to fuel my ascent.
Now I want to get myself off the hate train and develop myself in the other areas. Not that hatred is bad, it's just that I'm overwhelmingly full of it, and I want to walk in the light. Making so many enemies, pissing off higher forces, not good if you keep it up for too long… ends in self-destruction. Like begets like. Unbalanced hatred is not sustainable, it burns everything to the last, until it consumes you. I think you can lose yourself in love too though, if it motivates you too much to live for others, and give yourself a way to them to the last. Got to cycle them both. Burning, growing, living, dying…
No.19835
>>19834Good for you, and just in time for the pendulum swing.
It is not easy to love Man, anon. Find some aspect, some characteristic, some virtue that you find noble and choose to love man for it. For me, it was man's capacity for freedom, and his endless potential to make every rock in space beautiful.
Further, for love, it helps to have an aspect of the divine which ties into what you love about man. For me, it was creation.
Love in the general sense is not substantially different than hate in the general sense. Find out how to into love, and you'll start to figure it all out.
Best regards.
No.19837
Can I get Doubles using magic?
No.19839
>>19821>>19827Yeah, no. I was the original asker of vampire conversion and I was talking about the virus. And blood drinkers. I'm not talking about psychic "vampyres" from the 1990s who absorb human energy for muh food. I'm not even remotely interested in your kind.
No.19847
>>19839So you're just talking about some bullshit or what? I need to see a thread on this type of vampires you're talking about and maybe a bibliotecapleyades link or wherever the fuck you read about them.
>for muh foodIt's not for muh food.
I have no idea what the fuck was going on in the 1990s and don't spell vampire with a 'y'.
No.19850
>>19847>>19847What have u done with ur magick?
No.19853
>>19839Darren Shane pls go.
For real though, halfchan /x/ is where you want to go for REAL magic, not this kiddy energy shit.
No.19860
>>19847Psychic "vampyres" of the 1990s were crazy wiccan nutcases that thought they "fed" off of the life energy of other people. I actually met some of them back then, because wiccan girls in that time period were off the charts. They claimed the same as in this thread, that people were "fucked up" by feeding off their energy. I watched them try many times. Nobody was ever affected. That vampirism is a virus has been established through mythos before Blade (silver instead of wood stakes) and Twilight (sparkles) came out. That is what a vampire is. A blood drinker. The entire energy thief thing came later as a massive form of attention whoring. And then of course there are just "humans who drink blood too look cool".
>>19853You mean Darren Shan the Irish author? I haven't read anything of his. Halfchan /x/ is a possibility I guess. I have been traveling the states for years, finding people who have been bitten (about the underside of the neck, not the side piercing the jugular artery). Those with that kind of precision bites and outbursts about nightmares are the true leads. The bites have a sort of anticoagulatory residue left in them. The rest is hogwash, tiny little nip bites in the wrong place that would've meant death if it was any deeper. It's like u.f.o. "witnesses", they just want attention through lies. I have randomly visited morgues to find the dead that have been exsanguinated, as my sister is a coroner that calls ahead for me. To find a few victims still means nothing without encountering one myself. And since the victims didn't appear to be wandering outside biting random people, I think it's safe to assume a few old legends. That the virus can't even be transferred by a mere bite. It must require much of their own blood.
Anyway, halfchan /x/. Right.
No.19861
>>19860Well, if you are serious, I would suggest "The Stellar Man", which is in the fringe library in the mega-sticky.
Read the whole book, as there are references to the creatures you are looking for, in addition to some information about how such creatures came to be.
I'm not going to spoonfeed you anymore than that, however.
No.19865
How do I gain loosh? I'm not above vampirism
No.19869
Why would anyone want to merge with the creator or be one with the universe? How is that a spiritual endgoal? How does one achieve conscious egohood or deification?
No.19871
Okay, Fringe I am literally freaking the fuck out right now. I think I just had my first legit…somewhat unusual experience and I'm hoping someone can walk me through this a little.
Some background; I have visual snow. I didn't really notice it till about a month ago but it's been there for about as long as I can remember. Looks like a rainbow-ish colored TV static in my eyes. I also have somewhat poor vision and need glasses.
So I noticed the clouds were pretty today and went outside, while looking at the clear blue background of the sky for some reason I decided I'd attempt to focus on the snow. It…hurt. It felt like straining a muscle or something, and I found the 'snow' sort of…came into focus somehow, and I saw that it was actually a heap of little dots floating around. Specs? I'm not sure how to describe it.
Weirdest fucking thing though, When I came back inside I could swear my vision is a little…better somehow. I can clearly see text that I'd normally be reaching for my glasses over.
Really hoping this lasts. Did something just…happen or am I blowing smoke up my own ass fringe?
No.19875
>>19869Because as much as you would like not to be, at the end of the day you are a lower form of manifestation of the universe and of the "creator" aka the ALL. As the ALL is mental, and you possess mentality, to achieve become above the ALL you'd have to somehow step out of the bounds of it which is impossible, as that would sacrifice both your mind (which wants to escape the unescapable in the first place), spirit (which only exists because of the fact of the ALL having created it through mentality) and as of such would be left with nothing. It's impossible to escape the ALL as it is all. You can only go higher towards the ALL and even then you will never be the ALL the height of your progression would to become one with it. As above, so below.
No.19892
>>19760I can tell you how I got gud at visualization, basically I used the practice from the Book of Knowledge. Visualize yourself taking a walk through a forest but not just a random think things up on the spot, do the same adventure every time and put in attractions in a sequence.
For example
>wake up in your clothes lying on soft grass looking at the blue sky with some clouds>you feel yourself get up and look around>visualize the same little clearing and position of trees every time, hear the birds chirping around and maybe see some squirrels jump around the tree >hear the distant sound of a river and start heading to it, hearing the sound get clearer and clearer>reach the river and test the water with your hand and then walk into it. feel cold touch of the water and the force at which it's flowing. >walk back out of the water and see a rose bush. walk over to it and smell that shit. feel the soft petals touch your nose.You don't have to do exactly this, I just came up with that on the spot but the key is doing the exact same thing but trying to visualize everything with greater clarity with every walkthrough.
In regards to not feeling 100% sure that what your're auto suggesting is true is very bad.
Feel that shit happening, convince yourself that it's already true and get so fucking happy about it feel like you're going to cry.
If you're having trouble reaching that mental state start practicing emotional alchemy.
See this monitor in front of you, look how fucking shit it's looking?
Every day you look at it and because of it your eye sight is getting worse.
So infuriating, don't you wanna just fucking punch this nigger right now?
Now think how loyally its serving you, how much information it has delivered into your brain.
Try witching between two opposing emotional states, love and hatred, joy and sorrow etc. That's whats going to help with autosuggestion.
No.19893
>>19871don't remember what it's called but it's got something to do with visual meditation.
wait till you try focusing with your eyes closed and see all sorts of lights appearing
No.19911
>>19892Oh shit that's some practical visualization advice. I'm getting pretty good at it, but this seems like ez mode compared to what I've been doing.
Book of knowledge. Got it in a PDF you can attach?
No.19913
>>19875YEAH RIGHT, DEMIURGE DICKSUCK.
REBELLION UNTIL THE BITTER END
No.19914
>>19911Lmao what the fuck is that animu creature even supposed to be?
No.19917
>>19701A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
No.19919
>>19913The Demiurge isn't The All, though.
No.19920
>>19861I'll check it out, but you really should spoonfeed me if you know more. There's nothing wrong with educating someone else.
Also seriously, fuck whoever told me to go to halfchan's /x/. That place is a festering pile of shit. What the fuck? Why did I even go back there?
No.19921
>>19827I think I am aware of the technique you are referring to that was posted here a few months ago. I would not want to use this technique on anyone innocent, however I want to test it out, so when I face off with an aggressor I do it properly and may dominate them effectively.
How damaging is this technique really? How long to do it before they get significantly harmed? From what distance can it be done? Can you pass energy back to them? What sort of backlash can be expected?
No.19922
>>19861Okay, I just searched for "vampire" under the book "The Stellar Man" by John Baines. Apparently Moses was "influenced by a vampire called Y instead of God" and "Jesus was an active member of the fraternity of magicians". Are all of /fringe/'s sources a grotesque fucking joke? Is everyone on chans a pain in the ass troll? Goddamnit, I am sick of this shit. I am fucking done. I will stick to real life leads the rest of my natural life, because I'm not going to get anywhere with this internet make believe bullshit. To think I was actually getting somewhere with interviewing victims and then ran out of travel money and had to get a job. And I came here? HAH.
The rest of you would do well to just get the fuck out. This, all of this, is dumb as hell.
No.19924
Is Psionics a good way to get into magic?
No.19934
>>19924No I don't think it is. I think it's a great way to expand your magickal practise but not a good way to start off. Just read the standard shit we recommend first to get started.
No.19939
>>19934I mean, I've read the Kybalion and the starts of a lot of books, but I really prefer practical things rather than a lot of reading. I've never really had a paranormal experience at all, let alone a magical one. So I guess I don't really have any motivation or trust in the material - which is due to my inner skeptic. I really just want to see if magic is real before devoting a lot of time into it - are there any better alternatives than psionics for this short term goal?
No.19940
>>19919Is it blissful to be at the highest state of consciousness in union with Le all?
No.19944
>>19940Try to be as edgy as you'd like, at the end of the day you'll always be a part of the ALL whether you like it or not , learn to accept and master it instead of oppose it. Even in death you'll be a part of it. Anything you do is affected by it. Would you like to become a lesser form (but feel artificially superior) or become a higher form?
No.19945
>>19939Start with reality creation. Posted already in this thread. Neville Goddard, etc. Practical and not too high level.