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>>27496

>They think invoking powerful multidimensional aliens for cash is going to cost them nothing

I don't get this. Assuming you are interacting with incredibly powerful entities… why would they want payment? If they can basically grant wishes, why would they need anything from you? Why would you even attribute human motives like economic exchange to them? Is it an ego thing? Why would a being of such superlative power need to resort to petty punishments for perceived slights? Why would you assume that such a being could be offended by the failure of little ants like us to provide reciprocation?

I'd think that such a creature as an Archangel would be beyond all human attempts at comprehension. Lighting candles or making offerings to it would be akin to a cargo cult in the South Pacific building totemic airplane runways to encourage the U.S. navy to accidentally airdrop military supplies on them again.

Anyway, reposting a link to the book here, because the server reboot deleted the backup link I posted earlier:

https://mega.co.nz/#!yVQnQL7b!3Mnvn8W_gJ4KNcJwXfxEPJc1rkJgZ_TDKZ4TR96W5R4

>>34017

Thank you. I searched for the pdf yesterday and all links were dead.

>>34017

Obviously the other wizard has never dabbled in evocation before.

>>23017

ditto

>>17616

Not to mention fucking half of those rituals have an end goal that would involve violating the will of others.

>>34226

haha, good goy am I right?

>>34226

>giving a shit about infringing on the "freewill" or subhumans who have yet to become Stellar men

>>34042

actually i now evoke only 'service to others' beings and only without egoistic wishes(such as most of NAP).

I doubt you understand that trinkets you get from your 'Gods' can be used to corrupt your soul and gain a backdoor into your mind's programming.

i.e. the price is becoming that entity toy. "The only free cheese is in the mousetrap"

Damon Brand's books have been compared to NAP. Not sure if this is good or not.

>>34276

>>giving a shit about infringing on the "freewill" or subhumans who have yet to become Stellar men

even implying that the vast majority of people even *have* freewill is dubious. people act as they are impelled by their environments and circumstances. almost no one really makes use of anything resembling "free will."

>>34488

Good point.

Tried this shit for weeks, tried the money and success rituals, Nitika and Labezerin were petitioned and an agreement was reached. They did NOT uphold their end of the bargain, I got angry and vocalized my displeasure with them. That same day I almost swallowed a piece of glass that had found its way into my food. A large piece of glass that would have definitely killed me if I hadn't bit into it and discovered it was there. These spirits are NOT true angels and are NOT to be trusted. Banish them with extreme prejudice.

>>35952

How exactly is broken glass "finding its way" into your food? Maybe clean up your kitchen before blaming vengeful spirits.

>>35952

Who ever said that they were

angels? Who ever said you needed to bargain with the spirits of the NAP grimoire?

Were you doing the relaxation ritual as written or were you freestyling? Because evoking Arzel after entering a trance state before petitioning your spirit is pretty much critical for success.

>>36144

>Who ever said that they were angels?

When their name ends in "el" (Hebrew, "of God"), it implies that they're angels. More than a couple of the entities that NAP claims to evoke have these sames.

>>43567

Elaborate please.

>>43592

Do you one can acquire astral projection at command with this?

>>43594

No idea, haven't got that far, I've just been using the self-hypnosis and the invocations.

Deleted the write up of the middle pillar adaption from the book. Read it on page 133.

For some reason sharing it messed up my vibes.

So anyone has any other experience to share with the book ?

I've downloaded it yeaterday and I'm reading it right now, it looks amaizing

any thoughts ?

>>44128

don't do it man, although you get results, your third eye becomes numbed

>>44264

How come?

>>44266

no idea why but a couple other anons reported the same. I did it anyway to see what would happen and it's still not as energized as it used to be.

>>44268

I've been working through it for a couple of weeks, to start with the self-hypnosis was really powerful but I guess I got used to it. Managed to steer synchronicity and psychic activity to my advantage using the invocations.

Started the middle pillar that's further into the book recently and things got weird. Powerful but feels slightly "off" unless I stay focused.

It does seem to "guide" psychic currents with the invocations, at the expense of not being totally open to what you normally would.

Does it impact other spiritual work for you?

>>44268

Have you tried changing the way you read the induction part? Remembering to listen to the sound of your voice and reading it slower/in a more relaxed way?

>>44269

It may be that I imagined it all, but I don't really do any conventional stuff or follow strict guidelines. Gather energy just seems to be more difficult now.

>>44270

My bad, I meant that my third eye is not as energized as it used to be when not following the ritual. Again, I might just be imagining it.

>>44272

Hm. Did you just do the self hypnosis and the invocations?

The self hypnosis followed by middle pillar ritual on page 133 brings up a lot of energy for me but no idea of the long term effects.

It mentions in the book the "tickling of the ant", weird feeling in the third eye which I get quite often while doing it but its not the same as the normal third eye feels I get.

>>44273

I did steps 1 - 4 at the top of the thread. I did as though my whole body was covered in a 'heat' or energized but I did not feel as though my third eye was receiving priority; my whole body felt the same. As soon as I finished, the 'heat' immediately dissipated.

>>44274

I only did it for 5 days as the 'numbing' of my third eye made me reluctant to continue.

>>44275

Was that all the time or just when doing the nap stuff?

>>44277

not sure what the nap stuff is but i mean 24/7

Do you need to do each one separate? Like, if you want two things, do you make another ritual like this?

>>44297

nap=new avatar power

I just did step 2, invocation for protection, middle pillar, bornless rite adaption, uncrossing, further invocation for protection and am totally buzzing with energy from it.

Although you can use middle pillar separately to this book and I think that's where most of the energy is coming from, although the hypnotic state step 2 causes potentiates it quite a lot.

>>44304

What is middle pilar, bornless rite adaptation, uncrossing?

>>44303

So long as they're the same goal you can combine them, the book advises against combining separate goal invocations, suggests doing one a day, preferebly the same everyday until you have your result. I think this works on the level of both keeping your ritual and result on a level so that you can establish it works with cause-effect thereby creating a stronger faith in the system making it more powerful as well as on an energetic level.

Here is the full book btw, it's good to read it rather than just do the technique, although admittedly I've skipped over a lot:

https://mega.co.nz/#!jgZ1UB4R!oulRzkGyVbX8lbVuSATGn72vSfQFl-q2wF1__NPYZSs

There's a lot more to the book than just the invocations in the thread.

>>44307

Middle pillar is on page 133, uncrossing is kabalistic cross + small script banishing evil + kabalistic cross again, stops negative entities and curses.

Bornless rite adaption is a shorter and slightly altered version of the golden dawn's bornless ritual to be done after the middle pillar.

>>44308

Umm, do you know how long you'd have to do that until you get results? Does the time have to be exact?

>>44310

Ah, you mean those weren't in the book?

>>44307

>>44310

Middle pillar is basically saying words of power to charge energy centers you visualise as white light above your head, at your throat, heart, groin and feet, then some visualisation/energy work of pushing the white light down left side of your body on exhale, up the right side on the inhale, then doing the same for left and front side of body, then right and back. Then breathe in drawing energy up through the pillar from foot to above head when it reaches the top, visualise it sprinkling down like a fountain on the outbreath.

It's a pretty powerful visualisation ritual. Read the book on page 133 for better instructions.

>>44312

No they're all in the book. The stuff copied and pasted here is only like the first two chapters.

>>44311

A lot of people talk about instant results, mine have been pretty instant, I did the invocation for wealth and got given a gram of gold the next day. All my other results have been mostly psychological but significant.

>>44314

Nice!

Now add a second flow to the first. In time with an outgoing breath, pretend the light from the spirit gate is flowing down the front of your body.

On the inhale add a second stream covering the back of your body.

Repeat this process with the second flow five times.

After taking twelve breaths and imagining the circulation of your NAP, think about the ball of light at the earth gate at your feet. Recall the shaft of light that you pretending was thrusting through the other balls of light.

Imagine that the spirit gate has turned into a powerful suction pump which is sucking the white light from the earth gate and up the center shaft. Inhale as you pretend that the light is rising in the shaft.

Then pretend that the light bursts out of the top of the shaft like a brilliant fountain. Begin to exhale and imagine the light showering down all over you from the spirit gate.

Take five more deep breaths. Sucking the light up the shaft and then imagining it cascading down your body like a waterfall, to be absorbed again by the ball of light at your feet.

You will now feel your NAP physically. With your body relaxed and still a great calmness will surge through your mind while your skin will prickle with warmth and a vibrant current of life.

Now is the moment to heal any part of your body that needs mending. If a physical disorder has been troubling you, think about the part of your body that is sick. If your normal mental patterns are not as clear cut as you would wish, direct your attention inside your head.

Think about the point in your brow where you may have felt the tickling of the ant described on page 74

You are now overflowing with the force of NAP and you bring this tide of power to a foaming glorious peak by reading the following invocation aloud and slowly, with feeling.

"Thee I invoke, The Bornless One. Thou art Man made perfect, whom no man has seen at any time. This is He whom the winds fear. Hear me and make all subject unto me, so that every spell and scourge of the VAST ONE shall be made obedient to me.

I am he, the bornless spirit, strong and of immortal fire. I am He the truth that lighteneth and thundereth. I am He whose mouth ever flameth. I am He the begetter and manifester unto the light."

Those words have a mystic power of their own. They are a true invocation to hidden spiritual beings and they have been used by powerful adepts for centuries. By saying the words you are attuning yourself with the power of those adepts, and the still greater powers of the beings.

>>44317

>[Then imagine a pillar going down from the spirit gate to the next gate which is also white light, say the word of power three times for each when it feels sufficiently charged, should feel tingling etc and get stronger on the use of the word of power]

Just to make clear, keep going through each gate from spirit to earth before moving on.

>>44318

>>44317

Also there are further invocations you can make after doing the middle pillar which you can find in the book. Middle pillar starts on page 133, invocations are after that.

So from what I understand, if you perform an invocation for a certain result you have to be cooperative yourself. For example, if you perform something for money you have to go out and do something that will get you money and not expect a sack of cash to be waiting for you on the couch after a rite. Or after performing something for love, you have to go and confront your love interest and not just expect them to come running to you. Is anyone using a pendulum or any other form of divination to find out what further steps should be taken after a rite if they're unsure of how to progress from there? Any experiences?

>>44405

Not necessarily, in my experience you are altering natural synchronistic currents to your advantage in a specific area. You can potentiate that by acting it out but I don't think you absolutely have to, it's just preferable to do so.

Bump.

Anyone else trying this?

Middle pillar has been doing a whole lot of good for me.

>>44992

I got a little motivation funk for the past week, maybe a bit tired for life reasons.

And I just wasn't motivated enough to use NAP, so I picked up his other book on acupineology and tried the basic exercices. After ~15 minutes of practice I was filled with energy, couldn't sleep until 4 am and when I went to sleep had awesome and incredibly vivid dreams (not lucid, but awesome!)

Based on my magickal work and experiece, I kow that ,for me, dreams are a maifestation of my current will and vibrations, awesome dreams generally means that the times to come will be even more amaizing. I am exited to see how the future has been shaped in my favor.

>just to say that the guy's work is legit and work

Some hints about NAP:

1. Don't perform any 1 ritual for more than a month! The pendulum swings in the

opposite direction and you will notice some bad luck coming your way if you do.

2. Try to perform 1 type of ritual everyday at the same time. If you miss a day

because something comes up is fine. It will just take longer to get results.

3. The book is great for these fast paced times we are in. It does not take a lot of

preparation work like other forms of sorcery/magick. The rituals need

improvements such as LBRP or other forms of protection before hand. The book

calls on powerful angelic forces outside oneself. You need all the protection you

can get. I would almost suggest setting up a circle of protection…

If you do everything you get a desired result. What is happening behind the

scenes is open for debate. No one can prove if spirits are part of my

subconscious or separate entities all their own.

1) Visualisation is how spirits communicate - the words of the spells are there

ONLY to focus your mind on your intent (if you are not well trained enough to do

this without a statement of intent) and to rouse emotions. The 'will' or 'desire'

that comes with focused intent, combined with the emotions need to be put intoa "liquid" state so that it can be transfered to the spirit. Unless this is done, how

will the spirit know what you are trying to achieve?

I have tried many different methods with NAP and I find the best results come

from when after each line of a spell, you stop (pause) and focus you intent on

what you are trying to achieve. I believe that this works because of the nature of

"spirits" in general. As you probably know, spirits aren't powerful people without

bodies, they form the building blocks of our universe, quite literally they are

energy that moves. By using visualization, you either pull or push that energy to

bring specific change into your life. The reason that NAP works so well is ONLY

because of the way it is worded.

God damnit, I recognize these shady "angel" names somewhere but I cant remember where. Just finished scouring the Book of Fifty Names as a last resort and found nothing in there

>>45322

What's shady, he calls upon Eloheem, Arzel and all, they all are pretty much known (Eloheem, for example is in the first line of the bible).

If you can't be bothered to git gud or google search don't come and cry because you don't know the names of an entity.

>>45322

Nuctameron and Transcendental Magic

>>45342

Damon Brand uses similar names too.

>>45301

Interesting, thank you for your perspective. I have actually adopted the NAP ritual as a mainstay in my magick workings ever since I learned of it here to some great success, and I'll keep your tips in mind as I practice it.

Personally I haven't had to perform the ritual to achieve the desired end results more than maybe 2 or 3 times, but I don't ask for a lot either, and I have actually done some of these magick workings to the benefit of others in my life besides myself.

So how would you set up a circle of protection as you say?

Do you think the uncrossing ritual included in the NAP book is enough? It looks to be basically the LBRP at first glance:

http://www.kheper.net/topics/Hermeticism/LBR.htm

For comparison, page 79 of New Avatar Power:

>Stand up with your feet together. Close your eyes. With your left hand at your side, raise your right hand above your head, pointing at the ceiling with your first and second fingers. Keep those two fingers together, and curl your thumb and your third and fourth fingers into the palm of your hand.

>Say the Word of Power: AH-TAY

>Without altering the posture of your fingers, bring your right hand and arm straight down in front of your body and point at the floor between your feet.

>Say the Word of Power: MALL-COOT

>Lift your right arm, bending it at the elbow, and point your two fingers at your right shoulder.

>Say the Word of Power: VAY-GAY-VOO-RAH

>Move your right hand across your body and point at your left shoulder.

>Say the Word of Power: VAY-GAY-DOO-LAH

>Clasp both hands in front of your chest and say: LAY-OH-LAHM-AMEN.

>Then in a firm voice announce: "In the Name that is above every other Name, I banish from this place all seeds of evil. I bind them as with chains and cast them into the Outer Darkness where they shall trouble not the Seekers of Truth."

>Now repeat the gestures and Words of Power just given. Sit down gently and continue with your magical business.

>This shattering Uncrossing Ritual ensures that nothing evil can come anywhere near you. I shall be referring to this Ritual again in Chapter 8 where you will learn to attack and defend yourself from enemies using your awesome NAP.

I tried the astral travel technique in geof gray-cobb's book called Acupineology and It is appearing to be failing for me.

I can get all the feels and the tickling of the ant and everything but I am still stuck at the point just before separation, my body becomes "rigid" (in a sesnse that it is too relaxed, close to sleep paralysis I think) and all my body tickles with energy, then I feel ripples in my spine and everyhing stops.

Anyone got any tips on that ?

(I also did solar grounding after the basic acupineology work)

Also I have difficulties to relax my face while in meditation, especially visualization, my eyes frown and I think I focuse too much on the thing I'm seeing, then I try to let go and relax but as soon as the vizualisation gets too intense my eyes an face becomes frowny again.

>>45448

>So how would you set up a circle of protection as you say?

a simple method is to imagine a circle of brilliant white light slowly growing from your heart to round you(about 9 foot in diameter).That's it

Do you think the uncrossing ritual included in the NAP book is enough?

Sure why not, but I prefer to use protection if I don't want to be much "influenced" by the entity.The protection is mainly to protect and AMPLIFY your desires, kinda like a speaker.

These are just tips,like add-ons.

This is my first ritual, I've only done sigils before.

I started a physical journal too. Rather than scribbles into onenote

I did the uncrossing ritual mentioned here:

>>45448

And did the NAP with the invocation for success. I'll tell you guys how it turns out

>>45673

Consistency and Discipline

As you probably now, keep doing each day once(same time if possible) until result manifest.(Just saying as a reminder)

What about Magic Mentor ritual? How many times it takes to him showing up? i tried this a few times half year ago and it didn't work.

>>45708

I did it once and had him show up during the central pillar a few days later.

>>45709

Although I didn't keep the connection for long, it was very real but my mind jumped and it cut off. Good meditation skill is probably required to be able to keep connection well.

Anyone working with the pendulum willing to share their stories or tips ?

>>45812

Same anon here, just had a super successful experiment with my magic mentor.

> "Guessed" the last digit of numbers generated by the "random" unix command (a program that generates randomly generated numbers) with 100% accuracy

> Asked tons of questions to him, not on mundane physical plane stuff, yet, but on improvements I could make on my magical system/routines, got really surprising answers, will work on them and post results

> Had some insights on hermetic principles and philosophy and also had some eye openers and solutions to a couple of magic stuff I was working on.

> Also general insights in the waking world, like I'm doing something and poof, I find the optimal solution to the problem.

Then, and that's where it gets amaizing, I could not have any other questions I wanted to ask that camed to my mind and when I asked him what to ask, he said:

"It would be best if we could put a term to this conversation right now".

Just as I said "why?" someone called my name and made me wake up from my mild trance…

This book is fucking amaizing

>>24960

Yes, yes OP is a jew…

And magic doesn't exist.

>>46000

>gigglinggirls.jpeg

I just did it for the third time and I got an immense rushing feeling during the 5 minute meditation. It's the same one that snaps me out of my sleep when I slip into a half awake dream state, but I was fully aware during this. It was scary and I think my fear kept pulling me out of it. Felt dangerous.

Anyone else get this? Am I not supposed to feel that?

>>46033

> felt dangerous

That's called the fear of the unknown, I suggest you read Gary Craig's tapoing tutorials to get rid of all fears and undesired emotions.

>>46033

After doing a ritual I developed the worst headache of my life (I regularly have migraines but this had me in tears). It was akin to having a helmet placed on my head, which was continually shrinking and crushing my skull in the process.

I couldn't take any more after six hours when I felt like passing out from the pain/had thrown up and had to pray to my ancestors and the all to revoke what I had done. I was energetically and emotionally drained for two months or so after that and had to start my spiritual process from the bottom up.

I'm glad it works for others; but I get terrible vibes from new avatar power. Never touching this shit again.

>>46059

It'd be interesting to know why we get different results.

>>46060

purity

>>46059

Isn'this a pure copy pasta, please don't copy another post in the thread…

Also follow the instructions in the book and actually read it all first, you will have no concluent result if you think that you are an accomplished magus and therefor you do not need to meditate before the ritual or express the vibration of the thing you desire.

Humility is one of the most elevated virtue.

>>46069

Remind me, why did I sage again ?

>>46069

I haven't read much of the book but its still working for me…

Does it say to meditate before the ritual in the book? I just go straight into the self-relaxation part and then central pillar.

>>46688

You should meditate and charge yourself before every ritual or act of magic.

But NAP has it's own relaxation thing so it's okay to only do that. I had waaay better success meditating and energizing my chakras before doing the nap stuff then just using the point A relaxation.

>>46865

That and your intention did all the work, not the "ritual".

>>46870

"The ritual" is a capital tool to canalize ones will.

If its well written, sequenced and balanced (like all the NAP ones are) it can add a great deal of focus to your already strong intention.

Agreed, you don't need rituals, but good ones enhances your belief.

>>46872

What if you have a hard time believing in rituals and just do it without the belief in the ritual, but only in yourself? I may want to try some rituals, but I am easily put off by drawing sigils and chanting gibberish, as well as saying things I that sound fucking stupid and nonsensical. Might as well summon My Little Pony spirits.

>>46875

In that case you just end shitting up esoteric image boards with your mundane views about shit you don't even comprehend while trying to make it look like you get it by using lots of quotes.

There's a new book out on kindle which is a rehash of NAP called New Millennium Power: Updating New Avatar Power For a New Millennium

>>47068

http://www.amazon.com/New-Millennium-Power-Updating-Avatar-ebook/dp/B0107IXNJO

3$ are too much. :/

What about this?

https://www.scribd.com/doc/228272667/Marcus-T-Bottomley-Power-of-the-Ancient-Deities-P-a-D

>>47231

Looks exactly like NAP with a few added extras like taking a bath with purification salts, magical oils and incense.

>>46033

This is me again.

I did achieve success through this ritual. I won money in an online casino and got further in a video game than ever before (2 of the goals I had in mind when performing the ritual for success).

The first few days of my success I offered "tributes" such as not sleeping for the day or avoiding caffeine (which I'm a fiend for), but once I stopped offering the tributes I had a tooth infection flare up that still hasn't entirely gone away.

Just show appreciation for whatever you're given. I think that's the problem the other guy had.

I just tried this for the first time and did the Invocation for Wealth.

I felt I could've been a bit more relaxed. I'll work on that next time. I also noticed I should memorize the entire speech so I can do it all with my eyes closed next time.

I felt a slight tingling in my left wrist and now my left elbow/bicep. I don't know what that means.

My stubble also itches. I think I'll shave it off.

Other than that, I'm going to post a lot on eBay, which I planned to do already. I'll report back if something drastic happens.

Also, are there any dedicated forums for NAP? ( ones more active than this thread) I want to learn more about it. I already finished reading the book. I tried the invocation immediately after finishing it.

>>49732

Don't rush through the relaxation script, do it slowly and in a relaxed voice.

This is so fucked up. Everytime I finish speaking with my magick mentor I can't believe I actually done it. It's so surreal… I always ask for proof and then he (she, it, I,..) guesses random numbers tells me the time right to the second and all that kind of crazy stuff.

I still can't believe it, I feel like a semi fedora fag. And it's so easy to do it's unbelievable

>>49732

This forum has a section dedicated to it

http://studioarcanis.com/viewforum.php?f=28

>>45623

pretty sure that's the vibrations.

Just pull yourself thru it, make the energy flow through out your body. And make sure to relax/focus on the darkness behind your eyeballs and let it flow naturally.

At first you might get panicky but the more you do it the more your body adapts to the energy and you can easily separate.

Just tell me why this is better than

Walter Delaney - Ultra-psychonics: how to work miracles with the limitless power of psycho-atomic energy

>>50030

>After reviewing several outlandish claims made by Delaney, Goldstein reveals that Delaney's real name was Joseph Schaumberger and that he had written the book to cash in on the popularity of such books. Schaumberger worked as an editor in a publishing house that specialized in occult books promising magical powers to those who read them and followed their imaginative and sciencey-sounding recipes. He saw that the authors of such books were making much more money than he made editing them. So, he decided to write one of his own. The pseudonym "Delaney" was lifted from a brand of urinal–the Delaney Flush Boy. The pseudo-ideas and pseudo-powers that fill the pages of Ultra-Psychonics, however, sprung from the research and imaginative mind of Mr. Schaumberger himself.

>>50033

Well the same kind of shit has been said on most Geoff Grey Cobb like authors, but is the books content legit?

>>50070

at least FRY had physical results to show and a lot of his shit was passed around hollywood.

try cyclomancy and yoga for men.

>>50078

Repost:

After trying the first cyclomancy exercise I realised my will is too weak.

Any way to improve myself and finally feel the cold water being hot?

What kind of meditation would you suggest I use?

Has anyone here been successful with NAP on their first attempt with no prior meditation or magick experience?

I find it a bit unbelievable that so many people in Geoff's book got it right on their first try with no meditation experience.

(Or did they have several weeks of training in his class first?)

>>50154

The factual accuracy of the stories in NAP doesn't matter. It's to show you what is possible. Some are true, some are romancized, some might have been stories told by friends of Geoff,…

>>50154

It's quite straight forward. There's not much to be bad/inexperienced at if you're just using the relaxation script and invocations.

Does anybody have a copy of Helping Yourself with Acupineology that they can post? Thanks in advance, if you do.

>>50347

It is in the huge mega in the sticky thread.

Main folder then Geoff Grey Cobb I think

>>50354

>>50360

Thank you, to the both of you!

So, what are your surroundings supposed to be like during ritual? Preferably completely dark? All blinking little leds covered with masking tape? Or just as dark as immediately possible? I figure people must be looking at their lit up computer screens to read invocations and still get results.

Also, anyone have Cobb's "Secrets from Beyond the Pyramids" in pdf?

>>50496

Do whatever you want for the surroundings. Just make sure it's dark enough so it doesn't bother you when you close your eyes and visualize

>>50496

It's too big to be posted here, you will have to go in the mega folder.

just as >>50354 said.

>>50496

>Also, anyone have Cobb's "Secrets from Beyond the Pyramids" in pdf?

Its in the big mega folder…

>>50030

do anyone have a link for this book?

>>18653

>began having headaches

Sounds like an energy headache. The energy got plugged in your head. I would suggest yoga, tai chi, or chi kung, to get the energy circulating, but sounds like you're out now…

I have a question. Can I do more than one of these rituals on a monthly basis?

>>51767

>>45301

>>19049

Yea this happened to me, as well as to some others I knew around five years ago. The explanation I got was that every NAP spirit has an infernal counterpart, one of the being Beelzebub (the lord of flies), and if the ritual goes wrong you contact them instead

>>51838

Beelzebub is a demonisation of baal meaning lord, christians added zebub -of flies to demonise baal, the god of another religion.

>>51840

It's probably an equally as powerful thoughtform, since most people, me included, didn't know that .

>>51843

Bugs and insects can be influenced magically, try willing one around mentally.

>>51875

I can confirm this. Pissed off a witch once and got Hella mosquito bites that night. The swelling didn't stop till I focused healing them. Windows were closed that night and there was no mosquito while I was awake.

Telepathy with insects is easy if you stay basic in thought. I've had moths help me our at work when I can't find what I'm looking for. Those bastards are smart as fuck

>>51881

I had a cricket jump on my dick seconds after a random urge to search for insects on motherless.

There was no way it coulda got into my room and it woulda been hard to not notice.

Thankyou fringechan anti-degenerate egregore.

Also I've discovered that willing flying insects to leave the room hugely improves chances of coaxing them out. Sometimes if they don't want to I can feel their will going against mine like an energetic battle.

>>51882

You're so stupid I want to punch you in the face.

>>51882

Yep, whenever a bee gets in my room I just tell her in a firm voce, get out, the exit is here and I point to it.

They always imediately go.

>>51896

>>51899

Jesus at least try it before punching me in the face.

>>51901

Hey, I'm not the same anon as >>51896

I was actually agreeing with you and giving an example that happened to me.

Pro NAPer Omran recommended this guy to me who has a similar style and is probably a pseudonym for holy gary knob.

https://mega.nz/#F!754wzIgY!38_2HVpdg6Tdxcn3WM9Fyw

>>52659

Omran on the books:

>Goetia pyramid mostly use one candle and imagining pyramid and shit to finish stuff. Goetian chant have a sort of middle pillar and a time in the day to contact spirit when they are (up) and willing to work so you don't need all that "HEAR ME AND MAKE ALL SPIRITS SUBJECT UNTO MOI" pretty neat stuff. The rome stuff is mainly a mental game/magic where you go up Jacob's leader and get help from Angels or Fallen Angel using Cabalistic name. and the new spirirt power create a thought form or as he say "Magical genie" to help you get da stuff

>>52659

Funny, but after reading the NAP and Pyramid stuff of Cobb's, I am experiencing deja vu looking at Nagel's books ;)

Bumping this thread because this is the best thread on /fringe/.

I want to try this midnight, but i'm wondering if i need any kind of offer. This really works only with words or what?

>>72013

Do not do anything in this thread. NAP revolves around summoning jewish demons who will harm you and bring suffering.

Fast results aren't worth this. Go to >>54577 and the FAQ instead. You will learn everything you need to know.