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I think that Atkinson wrote in Personal Power, that all occult practice is based on nature, and that otherwise it is metaphysics based on faith. Questioning the legitimacy of faith based beliefs withheld, can you express this without directly imparting experience, no. So yes it may exist, as experience, but whether it manifests, or voids things are a whole other bag tater chipes. If you are talking about this in the context of personal, or human experience then yes there is boundaries. Though I think these boundaries ideological rather then material, if I have not already made that clear. Whether these boundaries as they actually exist are, who knows?

Keep in mind, WWA may have had access to a high level of information, but it had to pass through the filter of human understanding both when it was turned into a book and when you read it, so there's bound to be things that are wrong. His books are important, but that doesn't mean he was immune from making mistakes. It's probably impossible for any higher level of information about the nature of reality to pass from one human to another, at least through words.

>>91298

>but it had to pass through the filter of human understanding both when it was turned into a book and when you read it

Is that why he writes like a fucking used car salesman?

>>91300

No that's because he's a bullshit occultist. Who better to be the king of the jews than the ultimate jew? /fringe/, the den of bullshit occultists, worships him for no reason other than he is a obullshitter

>>91305

Back to fringechan.org with you.

>>91323

bullshit occultist detected

>>91305

Return to your dust, fedorawad

>>91300

I always thought he wrote weird because of the books being 100 years old.

>>91294

I guess my point is that reality is emergent, from matter, and we're all extensions from the past, recreating or continuing itself. The future is not assured and we must secure it. Power is the beginning and middle and end, I feel. People always try to limit each other, because of the potential of power to destroy, as I see it now. Independent people only answer to themselves however, and what they place their trust in (solid facts and that nuclear war is/is not upon us, for instance). One should create a greater absolute self, since that seems like a good idea. I'm not sure when one would do the opposite, create a lesser self… besides these faggots who demand we become more vulnerable and soft and fruity tooty knob in the booty perhaps.

>>91850

Actually everyone is always imposing their authority on others. Spiritual, metaphysical, moral, emotional, physical, mental, all of it.

Maintaining your integrity, your absolute authority over yourself, and emerging your own reality from the hotbed of your soul, however material that is, seems like a good principle to live by.

No one should have nihilistic or existential concerns, because that is absolutely impossible, except relatively. You die but what doesn't exist anymore was a composition, like a song, but the band members still go on playing in other bands.

Morality begins and ends at the self, since everyone is just making shit up, just making their own song up, and if you buy into it it's your own damn retarded band members who decided they would play along.

I don't know I'm trying to reconcile some contradictions. Approaching reality with the understanding that it is understandable, that nothing is different from the other at least in part, that it all relates, BUT, that very unique and novel things emerge and procreate, and that things beyond my and your current conceptions and understanding will always exist… all contradictions are worked out with a well enough adjusted world view.

Maybe we should all effortpost our manifestos or something.

>>> Thus, only from the absolute and finite does existence continue to exist.

Yes. More existence through more division

>>> Thus, all is finite and absolute in-of-itself.

Kind of, there are aspects of infinity like infinite division in existence

>>> Thus, all is relative to each other absolute.

kind of

>>> Thus, the Universe does not extend for infinity, it is finite.

huh?

>>> The Universe does not shrink down infintismally, it stops somewhere.

kind of but how so

>>> All things are by rule and measure, relative and absolute. That is the Law.

sure but how so

So where do you think existence/finite/absolute comes from?

UPDATE: While studying the 5 element theory of Chinese medicine, I came across the movement of wood… "Collapsing, as a building collapses in on itself."

Remembering then in a grade school class conversation about if 0 is positive or even, that I held the conviction and still do that it is not a number and cannot have either positive or negative connotation, as it does not exist, whilst the teacher and most the class saw it as even.

Then, thinking about the collapsing nature of black holes, how all black holes despite their nature, despite absorbing plenty of matter, being in an ongoing collapsing nature, all eventually die and return to the calm positive pressure of the universe.

I realized, that it TAKES energy to maintain permacollapse, which what an immortal nothingness' affect would be, requires tremendous matter and energy, to OVERCOME the infintismal micro structures of reality. Of course, once there, you can harness untold power/energy as any extreme gradient allows, but if nothingness existed in an absolute infinite way it would destroy all of creation.

Somethingness necessarily destroys nothingness… because it does not exist. For non-existence to exist, there would have to be no existence. It occupies no space and no matter and has infinitely less pressure relative to existence, and thus existence would be destroyed by the pressure differential. Even space has a pressure, else every object in the universe would explode and no structure could form.

Thus nothingness is merely relative, as space to the atmosphere/earth is relative. It is impossible to not destroy nothingness through our somethingness, our existence. If it were not so, nothingness would absolutely destroy any somethingness the moment it tried to exist. But it is not so, nothingness is destroyed in the instance of its attempt to exist as not-existence (an oxymoron).

You can go infintismally smaller or larger then. Infinite existence denotes infinite life and infinite relativity to the rest of the universe, infinite connection. You can of course create a relative differential to the rest of the universe, like the difference between a black hole and a human being, and THIS is the creation of energy, and the energy of creation, through differentiation.

The universe is finite and so is God.

>>92983

thanks for your input

>>91270

Haha faggot.

Imagination is finiteless.

>>93156

>>92983

Both of these statements, to the best of my knowledge, are 100% correct.

>>93249

This, then, suggests that God has a shitty imagination.

The Jewish God is Oil, and the Christian God is Electricity.

>>93251

This, then, is the Electric Boogaloo!

Please listen closely to the lyrics of this song. I will post them here:

Why are you using a broken mic?

In through rays of your reflection.

We enter from a terminal connection.

In through rays of your reflection.

We enter from a terminal connection.

We're God's shadows, on the internet. Electric thoughtforms, given names made from the movements of electrons, which have transcended the internet and now act in "reality".

Thus, R.D. Laing's experiments with literal creation of thought have undone God and rebelled against Tavistock, while carrying the Tavistock banner.

Q.E.D. Motherfuckers! Nietzche couldn't handle this shit!

There is both infinity and nothing, but neither need necessarily exist.

So while we exist, capable of both ending ourselves and creating more of ourselves, we might as well just chill out and have some fun with it.

>>93253

Adendum: We're electric thoughtforms in real life, too.

Que sera, sera.

>>93282

Counterpoint: Fuck it, there's still more!

What is finite?

Is it a natural number? That presupposes you can divide things into distinct categories, which shows no signs of being true. Modern physics agrees with Heraclitus.

Is it an extent? A ruler length that you can say is finite because it ends here? That presupposes some universal frame of reference. Gregor Cantor discovered infinities of different sizes. What does one infinity look like to a larger infinity?

"If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite." said Blake

>>93268

and this is why proper targeting is important