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>Occam's cleaver.

>>92578

lol

The Vessel of Brass

why does it have to be brass? technically cant anything be a vessel for spirits?

The Other Magical Requisites

"The other magical requisites are: a sceptre, a sword, a mitre, a cap, a long white robe of linen, and other garments for the purpose; also a girdle of lion’s skin three inches broad, with all the names written about it which be round the outmost part of the Magic Circle. Also perfumes, and a chafingdish of charcoal kindled to put the fumes on, to smoke or perfume the place appointed for action; also anointing oil to anoint thy temples and thine eyes with; and fair water to wash thyself in

>hurr your magic wont work unless you have the right larping items!

>durr so what if some of these items are extremely hard to find if you want to do magic you'll do it!

Dont forget solomon was king of the kikes so he add access to more material than most.

The Adoration at the induing of the Vestments.

“By the figurative mystery of these holy vestures (or of this holy vestment) I will clothe me with the armour of salvation in the strength of the Most High, ANCAR; AMACOR; AMIDES; THEODONIAS; ANITOR; that my desired end may be effected through Thy strength, O ADONAI! unto Whom the praise and glory will for ever and ever belong! Amen!”

After thou hast so done, make prayers unto God according unto thy work, as Solomon hath commanded."

>my clothes are now magical the spell

Look I'm all for safety but I dont see the point in the magical ciclre if I have to keep casting "safe space" on myself every 10 mins

http://solve-et-coagula.us/solomon/addresswelcomedepart.php

The License to Depart

O thou Spirit N., because thou hast diligently answered unto my demands, and hast been very ready and willing to come at my call, I do here licence thee to depart unto thy proper place; without causing harm or danger unto man or beast.

Depart, then I say, and be thou very ready to come at my call, being duly exorcised and conjured by the sacred rites of magic.

I charge thee to withdraw peaceably and quietly, and the peace of God be ever continued between thee and me!

Amen!

After thou hast given the Spirit licence to depart, thou art not to go out of the circle until he or they be gone, and until thou shalt have made prayers and rendered thanks unto God for the great blessings He hath bestowed upon thee in granting thy desires, and delivering thee from all the malice of the enemy the devil. Also note! Thou mayest command these spirits into the Vessl of Brass in the same manner as thou dost into the Triangle, by saying: “that thou dost forthwith appear before this Circle, in this Vessel of Brass, in a fair and comely shape,” etc., as hath been shown in the foregoing conjurations.

>Because you need to give long winded speeches to let the spirit go

Right I understand that this is a kike magical system but It seems that unless your religious most of these prays and rituals are gonna be useless

>>92582

Ever seen the movie practical magic? …they just kind of take materials and t week it for modern day. Can't people do magick the same way?

>>92585

Because real magic has no need for materials and there are few that actually do anything besides awakening your inner bullshit occultism.

>>92585

>Ever seen the movie practical magic?

nope

>they just kind of take materials and t week it for modern day. Can't people do magick the same way?

Yes it's called chaos magic but alot of people dont seem to like it

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>>92586

>Because real magic has no need for materials and there are few that actually do anything besides awakening your inner bullshit occultism.

really feels that way tbh

>>92586

Ummm that is not true friendo

>>92589

BULLSHIT OCCULTIST detected

>>92590

There are materials for everything in life.

>>92591

Vague, but I am not in the mood to explain.

http://solve-et-coagula.us/solomon/paulina_1.php

Ars Paulina pt. I: the Angels of the Hours of the Day & Night

Here beginneth ye Book called the Art Pauline of Solomon the King, & this is divided into two parts, the first the Angels of the Hours of the Day & Night, the second the Angels of the signs of the Zodiack, as hereafter followeth.

The nature of the 24 Angels of the Day & Night changeth every day & their offices is to do all things that is attributed to the 7 Planets but that changeth every day also, as for example, you may see in the following treatise is that the Angel Samael ruleth the first hour of the day beginning at Sun Rising, supposing it to be on a Monday, in the first hour of the day that is attributed to the Moon, and you call Samael or any of his Dukes, their offices in that hour is to do all things that is attributed to the Moon but if you call him or any of his servants Dukes on a Tuesday morning at Sunrising being the first hour of the Day their offices is to do all things that is attributed to Mars & so the like rule is to be observed in the first hour of every day & the like is to be observed of the Angels & their servants that ruleth any of the other hours either in the Day or Night, also again there is an observation (rule) to be observed in making the seals of the 24 Angels, according to the time of the year, day and hour that you call the Angel or his servants in to do your will, but you cannot mistake therein if you do but observe the example that is laid down in the following work, they being all fitted for the tenth day of March, being on a Wednesday in the year 1641 according to the old account. To know what is attributed to the 7 Planets, I do refer you to the books of Astrology whereof large volumes hath been written.

When the seal is made according to the former directions, lay it upon the Table of Practice, upon that part of the Table that it notes with the Character that the Lord of the Ascendant is of, lay your hand on the seal & say the Conjuration that is at the latter end of this third part for it serves of all, only changing the names according to the time you work.

The perfume is to be made of such things as is attributed to the 7 Planets

I let >>90104 handle this one

I like astrology but not when it starts to be restraining and anal about every hour and day.

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>>92591

>>92592

fair enough, when you do feel like please come back.

>>92587

Isn't that just like taking a occult recipe.. and using substitutes?

>>92599

Then I was not talking about chaos magick. I was talking about people tweaking spells for modern day using substitutes for the magical recipe.

>>92601

>tweaking spells for modern day

Which is the end goal of this thread but you gotta cut out the shit that's dated

>using substitutes for the magical recipe.

What makes a good substitute and why? The only one who could this are old school wizards and they would most likely tell you not to cut corners

>>92602

The only one who could answer this

http://solve-et-coagula.us/solomon/paulina_2.php

These be the 12 Seals which is Attributed to the 12 Signs and the 360 Angels Aforesaid

Make this seal of mars 1 ounce sun 2 Drams venus 2 scruples & melt them together when the sun enters the first degree aries on the day of mars

When the moon is in the 9 or 10 degree of aries make it or finish it.

>giving physical measurements to metaphysical material

>>92601

>>92602

Case and point if you know any substitutes for this I'm all ears if not I am gonna disregard it.

http://solve-et-coagula.us/solomon/almadel_1.php

Ars Almadel pt. I: the Almadel & Altitudes

Determine the current Zodiac sign of the Sun and thereby your current Altitude.

Create an Almadel and four taper candles out of wax, carving the prescribed design into the Almadel, and create or otherwise procure the rest of the furniture in the color proper to that Altitude. A gold or silver seal is described and reference is also made in the text of the invocation to a 'crystal stone' wherein the angel is asked to appear visibly.

Creation of the Almadel as well as the invocations should be done on a Sunday.

>four taper candles out of wax

I'm surprised it didn't say I needed to make them out of the fat of a Chimera and sprinkle ruby dust on them.

Ars Almadel pt. II: Proper Times & Invocation

Based the current Zodiac sign of the Sun, Invoke the proper Angel(s) and make your request.

Creation of the Almadel as well as the invocations should be done on a Sunday.

>because metaphysical entities are bound by the rules of time

k

>>92605

I just meant.. you would make it work. Substitutes….tweaking.. it all would depend on whatever you are working with and if it's possible.. pretty much winging it…

>>92614

Oh.. well.. with care of course.. don't want to be dumb about it…

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>>92614

>you would make it work

Then there no need for all this convoluted bullshit if it's all my intent and will

>pretty much winging it

That's still sounds like chaos magic to me. I admit I gave a gross generalization of it but that was just based on my research.

spurdo if you got anything then feel free to add your wisdom

>>92619

So.. you would not be doing a spell? No ritual? Nothing?

>>92619

Do you know how to follow recipes?

>>92621

Tfw that is not how you do magick.

Rolled 4, 5, 6, 1 = 16 (4d6)

>>92620

>you would not be doing a spell?

No I would just getting rid of the stuff that's not useful

>No ritual?Nothing?

I never said that I'm fine with some of the stuff but like I said in >>92608

some of it is just plain stupid.

>>92621

Do you know how NOT to be a bullshit occultist?

>>92622

I mean..I guess it could be.. if you have your formula down… b-but

>>92623

People do things differently. No need to be upset. What works for one person.. won't work for another. I just meant if you were doing a SPECIFIC.. sort of thing..

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>>92624

The only way you would know which substitutes are good is by doing it your self and finding out which "ingredients" work. I'm NOT spending over a thousand dollars on crystals and other larping tripe just on a chance.

>>92625

>No need to be upset.

sorry but it's hard not to be annoyed by snide little comments like >>92621

maybe follow your own advice and not get upset that I'm "attacking" your system

>>92627

I don't see why attack in would be needed. I am not attacking you.. so why would you be attacking me. I am just trying to explain and communicate stuff. I feel that you're not understanding what I am saying. I don't see why we can't meet some where in the middle.. and it's always fine to agree..to disagree

Rolled 5, 6, 1, 5 = 17 (4d6)

>>92628

Then fucking make a list of substitutes for every little thing they want. I'm not gonna do that.

>>92630

Ummm there are a million spells in the world.

Rolled 6, 2, 1, 4 = 13 (4d6)

>>92629

>I don't see why attack in would be needed.

I'm assuming that's just the way you feel. and

>so why would you be attacking me.

confirms it

>I am just trying to explain and communicate stuff I feel that you're not understanding what I am saying.

>YOU USE A SUBSTITUTE

fantastic any thing else bubala?

>>92631

Then fucking list them

>>92633

I am not the one upset here. That other poster is butt frustrated.

Rolled 1, 6, 5, 6 = 18 (4d6)

>>92634

Because that's not solomon magic

Also don't move the goal post.

>>92635

>I'm so NOT upset that I have to make a post sating it.

mmmmmhhhhhmm.

>>92636

stating

>>92636

I was talking about magic in general.

Rolled 4, 2, 1, 4 = 11 (4d6)

>>92638

and so far you added nothing other than

>YOU USE A SUBSTITUTE

let me guess your some kike that owns a "magic shop" and are defending his profits.

>>92639

Nope. Did you at least understand the main thing I was trying to explain?

>>92640

>YOU USE A SUBSTITUTE

wow great advice m8

>>92641

:) thank you. Have a nice day.

>>92643

I was adding to the discussion of magick. I am not nosey or going anywhere. I just wanted to communicate a point. Thanks for expressing that you understood.

>>92645

How was adding poorly to the discussion nosey?

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>>92614

>>92622

Your little vid proves how "winging it" is retarded and unless you know the RIGHT substitutes it's not gonna work.

you haven't given us a list of good substitutes either.

>HURR FIGURE IT OUT FOR SELF!

any other "peals of wisdom" you want to throw before this swine?

>>92646

It doesn't but when you said >>92642

I assumed you were leaving.

Either start making a list of convenient magical substitutes or actually add something useful.

>>92653

>peals

pearls

>>92653

I added all I wanted to add. I am not spoon feeding you. You do the work if that is the route you want to go down. I don't know. what resources and tools you personally have available at your disposal.. nor what spell(s) that you're interested in.

>>92657

I never said that you had to pay a butt load for ingredients. Where did I say that?

>>92655

Pearls into the trash.

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>>92658

>whats that your (substitute) didn't work? How about you try (other bullshit substitute)

Cause you know magic has nothing to do with intent and will just what sparkly dodads you can get a hold of.

>>92660

(tips fedora)

>>92661

>I am not spoon feeding you

>HURR FIGURE IT OUT FOR SELF!

>USE A SUBSTITUTE

>Their pearls because I said so

k

It must be nice being a BULLSHIT OCCULTIST who larps like he has wisdom and doesn't have to prove it.

Rolled 2, 1, 4, 5 = 12 (4d6)

>>92667

No I am

>HURR FIGURE IT OUT FOR SELF!

>USE A SUBSTITUTE

But I don't think these are pearls and I don't believe you know anything about magic.

>>92668

There are many different types of magic.

Rolled 4, 3, 4, 5 = 16 (4d6)

>>92669

but yet you wont say what they are.

or why you have to do x y z.

So..

>BULLSHIT OCCULTIST

if you want me to believe you or listen to your advice then PROVE TO ME that you actually have some wisdom and not just hide behind vague bullshit.

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>>92669

what is your school of magic anyways?

hhhmmmmm?

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>>92675

>>92676

>PROVE TO ME that you actually have some wisdom and not just hide behind vague bullshit.

>proceeds to prove my point

well done

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>>92675

It must be nice being a BULLSHIT OCCULTIST who larps like he has wisdom and doesn't have to prove it.

It must be nice being a BULLSHIT OCCULTIST who larps like he has wisdom and doesn't have to prove it.

It must be nice being a BULLSHIT OCCULTIST who larps like he has wisdom and doesn't have to prove it.

>>92678

Prove stuff to yourself.

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>>92679

>I don't need to prove anything to you.

>yet I'm gonna larp like I have wisdom

cool

>>92680

>Prove stuff to yourself.

already have and now I'm trying to come up with a better more concise magical system. You just came in here said

>USE A SUBSTITUTE

and I dont have to prove anything and it mightwork.

>Doesn't have to prove wisdom

k

>>92692

I would ask you to prove that but….uh…….BULLSHIT OCCULTIST

>>92690

>>92690

I don't want to prove or need to prove myself to others. I don't need external validation in that form.

Rolled 3, 2, 5, 3 = 13 (4d6)

>>92694

but all these guys

>>92690

HAD TO PROVE THEMSELVES

if they wanted people to listen to them.

>Jesus was an ayyyy lmao.

>just trust me goys

mmmhhhmmmm

>>92694

>I don't want to prove or need to prove myself to others

because you can't

>>92696

I have nothing to prove to you. The only person I have to prove things to is myself.

>>92697

>Idon't want you to listen to me.

>>92614

>>92615

>>92617

>>92618

>>92621

>>92622

>>92634

>>92638

>>92644

>>92656

>>92660

>>92661

>>92667

>>92675

>>92676

rrrrrrrrriiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhtttttt.;)

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>>92698

then don't add your piss poor wisdom to the discussion

>>92699

I don't. If it doesn't agree with you.. let go of it and find something that works. >>92700

You're rude and grouchy.

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>>92701

and your useless and a waste of space.

You dont understand there was only SOMETHINGS I had problems with the key of solomon NOT all of it.

>>92697

Seriously?

That quote sounds a lot like "believe only the things that agree with your already formed preconceptions of the world, your philosophies and your political beliefs", ie masturbatory reading

>>92702

I am going to hide this thread now. That disrespect was rude and uncalled for. You have been nothing but rude and I have tried to be helpful and thought maybe you would share your own personal insight. All you have done is give non constructive criticism and bash me. Take care. I'm done.

Rolled 5, 1, 2, 1 = 9 (4d6)

>>92703

>masturbatory reading

and it suits him perfectly

>>92704

>I am going to hide this thread now

being this butt flustered

>That disrespect was rude and uncalled for.

you get what you give

>I have tried to be helpful

>HURR FIGURE IT OUT FOR SELF!

>USE A SUBSTITUTE

amazing

>All you have done is give non constructive criticism

not my fault some of the magic is fucking dumb

>Take care. I'm done.

FINALLY! now piss off.

You are all bullshit occultists because magic is for malnourished sissies while real men manifest glory through the golden elixir, just like Buddha.

>>92710

I'M NOT DRINKING PISS!

shouldn't have posted that webm, now the real troll is here

>>92711

Deep you have sunk into delusion. I'm not sure what you namefags and loosh posters are up to, but it's dangerously close to sinister AI. In fact, you are already soul-captured I guarantee it.

Meanwhile I'll just chill over here being all liberated and sheeeeeeeit.

SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURPP

>>92712

>dangerously close to sinister AI

gotta play with the bot if you want info

>In fact, you are already soul-captured I guarantee it.

maybe….I feel fine and my soul is there.

sorry man I don't doubt what you feel but I doubt drinking piss is gonna cure everything

>>92608

to be honest fam (can I call you fam? thanks fam) all of that sounds pretty badass magical, and before I ever got involved with the occult and thought what I would do without ever researching any of this shit, is pretty much exactly the type of stuff they're prescribing to do.

Bullshit occultist detected. Respect the effort you need to put in or be a programmers equivalent of a script kiddy or doxxer.

For a board supposedly into a heightened existence, this sure is a cynical thread showing much mental weakness. I bet y'all don't even exercise.

Rolled 5, 3 = 8 (2d6)

>>92764

>heightened existence

>Define heightened existence

>cynical thread

MUH RITUALS MUH GODS!

>much mental weakness

>How dare he criticize solomon king of kikes!

>I bet y'all don't even exercise.

>YOUR FAT! XDXDXD!

>>92731

Did another 50 today, feels good when I remember that I could barley do 10

>>92788

You sure do love implying. I am aware of the irony. A 3 inch piece of lion pelt is quite the low sacrifice; go ahead and sign some stuff, raise awareness of the endangered status of lions, and perform a magical ritual to their benefit to appease your karmic debt, but I would just look for a used lion pelt. Honestly I wasn't being all that serious in the first place.

I don't know why you would do one of the more difficult, high ingredient rituals first when you've vocalized its functional boundary to your performing a magical ritual. It seems simply a logical next-step to perform a low ingredient ritual, without lion pelts.

Get off your high lion pal. Maybe you should exercise, get motivated for some magic? Maybe do 33 push ups while reciting a 3 word incantation to summon some motivation? Or are you lazy like your lion pals?

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>>92791

>You sure do love implying.

>>92764

>showing much mental weakness

>I bet y'all don't even exercise.

I liked how you took off the flag. DEFINITELY fooled me.

I am aware of the irony.

oh?

>I would just look for a used lion pelt.

Great and where do i get one and how much cause amazon is useless

>Honestly I wasn't being all that serious in the first place.

>HURR I WAS ONLY PRETENDING

Then why did you open your mouth?

>It seems simply a logical next-step to perform a low ingredient ritual, without lion pelts.

but the spell calls for LIONS pelt unless goat is fine, how about monkey

>Maybe you should exercise

>You sure do love implying.

>>92767

>>92731

>get motivated for some magic?

>GET PUMPED BRO!!!

k

>Maybe do 33 push ups while reciting a 3 word incantation to summon some motivation?

has that spell worked for you?

>Or are you lazy like your lion pals?

Technique nigga