/fringe/ - Fringe

Do you have to be in the trance state to get anything done with thoughtforms etc? I know they form without it, so how strongly does being in the trance state actually help? Thanks to the anon that answered the rest of my questions in that paragraph in the last thread.

If the lesser planes can't affect the higher then how come drugs influence thoughts to a great effect?

>>93245

define lesser planes

>>93237

We're further from the end than you can possibly imagine. You may be very near your own personal end, however. Please do not project.

>>93260

In fact, I'd say we're very close to the beginning. It's not going to be a brutal shift, but it's going to be a noticeable one and I feel like most will survive.

It happens tomorrow, fyi.

>>93247

Lesser and greater are not good terms to use in this context. "Other" is a better term. There are more planes about to collide than you can possibly imagine, but not without survivors. Some of the survivors from those planes are entities you reaaaalllly don't want to meet.

The egg that is my flag is hatching.

Sleep while you can.

Game 7 starts tomorrow.

>>93245

"As above so below". Things happen at the same time in higher and lower planes

>>93262

I am archiving the thread just in case somenthing happens. If it doesn't I'll filter out your name and tripcode for LARPing.

Can it be somehow related to the solar eclipse?

>>93269

It's going to begin with the collapse of Time.

>>93270

Also, pretty much everyone is going to go completely insane.

Let's just say people are going to stop hiding their power levels and if they can't swim…

The unknown hours, not found on any clock, begin at 4:04 AM tomorrow.

>>93237

Nope. Have fun at your Kool-Aid party.

I know it's a long shot, but does anyone have ideas on developing tulpa cognition? I don't mean the delusional garbage. It's I want to show them a math problem and have them solve it while I do something else, kind of cognition.

In for another /x/tier roleplay disappointment.

Can anybody link me to an babbys first occult reading list?

>>93287

>reading

heh, what a joke heh

come to the herd, join the herd, you must submit

>>93287

/fringe/faq.html

How do I get right with God?

>>93289

Thank you

>>93291

You're going to have to ask something a lot less vague.

This has no doubt been asked and answered already, but what's up with fringechan and how long has it been in "maintenance mode"?

>>93298

see this thread >>78954

>>93301

Goddamn

>>93269

I remember reading that the lesser planes don't affect the higher. (Physical not affecting the above)

So what you said doesn't seem like an answer to me. If you receive damage on this plane it will not cause any impact to your other forms. Meanwhile if you get hurt in the astral you will definitely feel it here.

>>93269

>I am archiving the thread just in case somenthing happens. If it doesn't I'll filter out your name and tripcode for LARPing.

Since you don't seem to be aware, literally the only thing that tripfag does here is spam bullshit endlessly, and the mods/whoever owns the board now (thanks for the transparency, Fringe Wizard) don't care enough to do anything about it. There are several like them. All the tripfags here post bullshit.

I'm set on committing suicide soon. I can't handle life anymore due to interference from negative entities, and my family expecting me to take a full-time job despite needing to sleep for over half the day and suffering from frequent pain/mild torture induced by the negative entity that I can't banish for the life of me.

Anything I should know once I die? Anything to know before I do this?

>>93311

You will be tortured and sent back in a worse state. This place is designed to make people beg.

I suggest changing your diet, it sounds like a blood sugar problem, and taking a temporary job until you can run away someplace and live on the cheap doing something else.

>>93237

kind of

>>93261

>I'd say we're very close to the beginning

for every end there is a new beginning

>>93270

interesting, Also I thought you said you love time?

>>93271

>>93274

Look at me…LOOK AT ME!… I am the Walrus koo koo ka choo

>>93288

One of us! One of us! gooble gobble gooble gobble

>>93310

:^(

Which would be the primary difference between Neoplatonism and Hermeticism? Is there a "superior" system in regards to achieving Union with everything?

>>93310

Any sort of name/trip/avatarfags are always cancer as such a thing inevitable builds ego which the removal of such is a key part of the core strength and advantage of chans. At least they are usually easy to filter.

>>93333

holy mother of significant digits

not sure if i should be worried tbh

>>93273

Which timezone?

"One idea comes out of all this, the condemnation of all weakness. This is a particular idea in all our teachings which I like, either in philosophy, or in religion, or in work. If you read the Vedas you will find this word always repeated—"fearlessness"—fear nothing. Fear is a sign of weakness. A man must go about his duties without taking notice of the sneers and the ridicule of the world."

This shit right here is true morality.

>>93320

Oh, my time is still fine. Time, of course, is a personal affair.

>>93344

Fuck yes it is, bro. Fear is the mark of the beast. Nothing else.

I think its very likely I will be a father within a year and wanted to ask you guys how one could introduce or encourage a child onto the path of the occult.

"To the man who has begun to hate himself the gate to degeneration has already opened; and the same is true of a nation."

>To illustrate:—All great teachers have taught, "Resist not evil," that non-resistance is the highest moral ideal. We all know that, if a certain number of us attempted to put that maxim fully into practice, the whole social fabric would fall to pieces, the wicked would take possession of our properties and our lives, and would do whatever they liked with us. Even if only one day of such non-resistance were practised it would lead to disaster. Yet, intuitively, in our heart of hearts we feel the truth of the teaching, "Resist not evil." This seems to us to be the highest ideal; yet to teach this doctrine only would be equivalent to condemning a vast portion of mankind. Not only so, it would be making men feel that they were always doing wrong, cause in them scruples of conscience in all their actions; it would weaken them, and that constant self-disapproval would breed more vice than any other weakness would. To the man who has begun to hate himself the gate to degeneration has already opened; and the same is true of a nation.

>>93357

By example. The worst parents are those that don't live and lead by their own example. Don't be the fatty in a messy room who asks their child to clean up, don't encourage interest or fascination in things you can't display any affection for yourself, etc.

The other thing is to integrate it into everything you do. Everything from thinking to sleeping to eating; there is an occult way to stuff.

The other thing is to be conscious that you are creating also the soul of the child each time you feel love towards it and fire off your thoughts to it.

>>93238

>Do you have to be in the trance state to get anything done with thoughtforms etc? I know they form without it,

As far as I know, being in trance only helps with concentration and purity of your intentions. Personally, I just sit down, breathe slowly, listen to some nice music, and resonate on the emotion of what your trying to do.

>how strongly does being in the trance state actually help?

It really depends on you, like I said, it helps with concentration, if you got that under your belt, I don't see why you couldn't just do it in calm, collected, at-peace state. Basically, if you "feel" that'll help, go for it, but its not necessarily an arbitrary requirement.

>>93365

The real greenpill on trance is you're always in a trance. Trance is loosely defined as an state of consciousness other than the ordinary. The automatic result of emotional excitation, intense relaxation, sustained concentration, or other trance-inducing variables is "trance". Now, there are certain forms of trance that denote a kind of unconscious trance, and there are conscious kinds of trances. Many different mental states can be produced. The key is to enter the mental state that supports the work being done by the mind. It is not difficult to enter into and out of trance states, it becomes second nature with practice, and eventually the extraordinary states of mind become the standard for that man.

In general sudden tension is for projection of thoughts and relaxation is for reception of thoughts. Often times an alternation between both is required to perform various works, and being suck in a state of constant tension or relaxation without being able to alternate is a hindrance to mental and bodily functioning.

>>93367

Is there any particular relationship between Minerva and enyo?

I had dreams with them but I don't understand what they are meant to represent

>>93369

Don't mind that link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV7kvOLRJLc

>>93369

>Minerva and enyo

I focus on essentials not names. If you can't identify what these entities/names represent I don't have much of anything intelligible to say about them. Anyone, anything, can go by any name it wants; and in the spirit world any form may be assumed and it only suggests at or hints what the real nature of the entity is at best.

>>93373

>>93373

We'll I dreamed of Eris telling I had to become immortal but the image was actual of her war associated part enyo and I had another dream of being guided by what I believe were the three fates, ending up fighting monsters with a girl I believe to be Minerva because the name come to me at the end of the dream.

So I'm asking if there is any associatetion between eris/enyo of discord/war and Minerva athenas roman counterpart.

>>93333

>but I used the negative energy force to further propel me into the light, so to speak.

How did you manage to do this, anon?

Who owns the board now? I don't think I've seen this question get answered yet.

>>93055

You might have had a point if you only posted the first image. Aryan =/= Nordic.

Anyone know of a good place to find audio books other than Youtube?

>>93397

If I'm really lazy I'll just copy paste the entire book it into ttsreader.com.

>>93260

>>93261

>>93262

>>93263

>>93264

>>93265

>>93266

>>93270

>>93271

>>93272

>>93273

So is this guy LARPing?

>>93398

Ayy, I've always wanted to find one of these but I could only find ones with character limits. This one even allows for PDFs which is really neat. Thanks for sharin'

>>93399

>So is this guy LARPing?

yee

>>93399

Don't ever give tripfags attention. It'll make them do it more.

>>93401

Well considering the shit he said would happen never happened, he's not worth any further attention anyways I suppose. Doubt he will come back.

Time and time again I wish that I was a god, but now I'm beginning to think that perhaps I've had these desires even in my past reincarnations. Could this be the case?

>>93395

>thinks these images depict white people despite the blatant subhuman currynigger appearance

>>93393

YYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS?

>>93399

maybe

>>93402

>would happen never happened

>would never happen to you

ftfy

>>93401

True

Would it be a good idea to use the upcoming Lent as a means of clearing myself of certain bad habits (weed and binge eating in particular), or would the Abrahamic connotations open me up to interference from such entities that would try to fuck me over? I know Semitic religion/spirituality isn't a big hit here, I can vibe with some of the reasoning behind why that is, but I'm not about chugging /pol/-aid by the gallon like people seem to do here. But I'm curious/interested in what you guys have to say on this.

>>93418

>Would it be a good idea to use the upcoming Lent as a means of clearing myself of certain bad habits

dont see why you would need lent to give stuff up but if you feel it helps then go ahead

>Abrahamic connotations open me up to interference from such entities that would try to fuck me over?

maybe if you fail lent THEN you be opening yourself up to be fucked with.

>certain bad habits (weed and binge eating in particular)

I think your only suppose to give up one thing but your call.

>>93423

The timing just happened to work out with it coming up soon and me snacking my way through a shitty month starting to catch up with me. This is part of a process that's been ongoing since the summer, but Lent came up at a convenient time for me to renew my dedication, because I plan on sustaining better habits once the ritual period is over. I know people typically choose one thing to cut out, but those two vices in particular also seem to go hand-in-hand for me, so why not kill two birds with one stone?

>>93425

>The timing just happened to work out with it coming up

>Lent came up at a convenient time for me to renew my dedication

fair enough

>but those two vices in particular also seem to go hand-in-hand for me so why not kill two birds with one stone?

well when you put it like that, it makes more sense. good luck man

>>93438

I dont know, have I?

>420 magician

>gives in to hunger

Absolutely BASE you noob smoker git gd

>>93469

im a girl btw

>>93470

You will never into norvini, female

>>93473

dont touch my kundalini!

>>93475

DON'T YOU DARE TALK ABOUT THE GRAND WIZARD THAT WAY!

>>93438

>>93475

I really really really like this new meme of yours. It's very cute.

>>93469

For context, I'm also a former fatty that got /fit/ and is trying to stay that way. Also after being a day-in-day-out stoner for about 3 years, all weed does for me anymore is make me tired and lazy. It's not so much about munchies as it is that smoking seems to bring out the kind of shitty emotions that lead me to overeat as a coping mechanism. But I'll see how I look/feel after fixing my diet and keeping off the grass for a month.

>>93427

thx m8

>>93481

Congrats on your success. :)

Where did all the knowledgeable people on this board go?

>>93489

*slits your throat*

*collects your blood*

*shags a sheep over your corpse*

*drinks your blood as an offering to the pantheon*

ABSOLUTELY DRVIDIC

>>93482

Are u absolutely epin fret? He smokes and then the boost of energi in his body makes his chakras flare up so they try to heal or deal with trauma and he goes to eat shit, if there was a wizard punishment like there is a pirate punishment in the form of keelhauling I would advokat you be the victim of it.

>>93493

So me feeling tired and lazy after smoking is the chakras trying to heal themselves or deal with trauma? Could you explain further, I'm genuinely curious.

>>93493

I was congratulating on the self betterment.

>>93489

Some of them are still here. It seems proportionally less because there are several anons constantly filling the board with shit. I personally hold onto hope that it'll get better again, or that a better board with constructive rules will be started because one of us will get sick enough of this.

>>93509

>>93489

>anon wonder where smiley is

>doesn't know he ascended with the rest couple of weeks ago

>>93499

Yes or you got bad stuff. Try new dealer, switch for brown sometimes.

But yes smoking is a tiny kindaluni, it gives you lots of loosh and empowers most charas which then light up and want to be sorted out because it's in chaos but it wants to align with the strong energy flow but that's not possible because the shot you're trying to pig your way through is clogging up the system, fatty.

>>93383

One can only be so and so happy if one has experienced so and so unhappyness and vice versa that is that it doesn't matter what you feel but to what degree you feel it, then to grasp, fully, a vice or sin so that one understands it within and without, holding that in mind imagine the opposite of what you are holding and let it /flip/, or slowly acclimate the opposites as you identify them.

>>93517

just shut the fuck up if you have nothing helpful to say, you pretentious piece of shit

>>93519

>a shit

Blub.

I AM MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE, BULLSHIT OCCULTISTS!

>>93517

I don't see anything wrong with it, I'm pretty sure she won't harm me.

So can you help me with it?

>>93523

>>93516

https://ghostbin.com/paste/mbk8f

This is an old archive of /fringe/ threads. There is most likely something for you and anyone else just scrolling through this thread.

And maybe if you're reading this, plz help with my question >>93424 in return

>>93524

>There is most likely something for you and anyone else just scrolling through this thread.

Well, yeah, the internet is a big place, I just wanted to present my situation directly since I know how subjective and personal these things happen to be. Maybe I should be asking the question somewhere else?

>>93525

maybe you shouldn't go around fucking demons, neophyte

maybe you should take value the experience, thank her for her time and tell her to leave.

>>93526

Pseudo-Intellectual Nuisance

>>93526

Maybe you shouldn't tell me how to live my life. I hate when people dodge the question at hand with some moral talk about something that doesn't even apply to how I think.

>>93525

https://archive.is/6VMRV https://archive.is/fAG09

Did a bit of looking and found these 2 old threads in through that link I gave in >>93524 that relate to what you initially wanted in >>93516

>>93511

I've been going to the same guy for years (who happens to be Jewish, I'm sure people here will have a field day with that), but there's always the issue of him getting different stuff every time I stop by, and most of the time I feel like he doesn't even know what kind it is and will just throw out a name (or make one up, some of these I can't find on Leafly) as a selling point. Like I said, I've been doing it round-the-clock for years and have been able to function just fine, but since around summer, any amount at all will just knock me out and make me not want to do anything. If I get past the urge to be a fat shit when I smoke, is there a way that I can use that extra energy flow to get shit done again or sort out my chakras?

>>93528

maybe you shouldn't ask for advice you don't want to hear.

Go in peace, good luck with your demons.

>hear voices

>go ask wizards if its a good idea to fuck it

>>93528

Just ignore. That's typical holier-than-thou behavior common to this shithole of a board.

>>93533

Sadly, feeling better because you think fucking random astral creatures is a good idea is probably the shitholiest thing about this board.

>>93529

I read those two threads, none of them answered my question really. I just want to know what kind of exercises or practices I should do to be able to impose myself properly into a realm where she can reach me and where I can feel her. The question doesn't even have that much to do with succubi in a way. Never mind, I guess it must be a stupid question.

>>93534

I appreciate your concern, but your advice is simply unwanted.

>>93528

<"I AM GOING TO FUCK WHORES WITH AIDS"

>"Man I wouldn't do that you'll probably get AIDS and might even get stabbed or shot"

<"YOU DON'T OWN ME MOM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

>"It's your life cunt tbg"

<"FUCK YOU"

>>93535

Learn to lucid dream.

>>93535

>>but your advice is simply unwanted

>can't even fuck demons

If you do manage enjoy your astral aids. Trust me its a thing.

>>93538

i'll asdnally fug ur bumbum gib u magical space aids tbg

>>93537

I know how to lucid dream, but I wanted to do it awake.

>>93540

y not say so in 1st place

>>93540

Lucid dreaming is the gateway into inducing experiences in waking "reality".

>>93538

go read some more memeticist bullshit and spare us your toxic comments

>>93542

Not the only one, though.

>>93544

It's all perspective.

>>93543

<toxic comments

UGH

*shudders*

*spasms*

*gyrates*

*moans*

not those evil non-redditors being gasp MEAN to me!

stop it reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>93549

>>93551

/pol/cuck

>>93552

fug u tbg i am not bol gugk i am goble de gobble master race

>>93554

why is censor this is not sfw board fug u

>>93315

Ohshit, you know the truth

>>93563

smiley had cancer?

Rolled 27, 13, 13, 16 = 69 (4d34)

>>93475

>so you're already obviously more capable.

>more capable by default

Not the best but I'll take it

>>93478

it is fun

>>93509

>or that a better board with constructive rules will be started because one of us will get sick enough of this.

I highly doubt that, splitting up now just because of a few shitposters doesn't seem like the best idea. I like to think it encourages lurkers to post but I'm probably being optimistic

>>93516

>Does it come down to a strong imposition of emotion

I think this is the key gotta find that balance between lust and love

>sound, touch and vision inside your mind?

These probably all help except for touch. I have no idea how they would feel considering they don't have physical bodies.

>is the idea that you basically "present yourself" to her

I would think so but you gotta get on the same frequency as them in order for it to work

>>93535

>I just want to know what kind of exercises or practices I should do to be able to impose myself properly into a realm where she can reach me and where I can feel her.

lucid dreaming, astral projection but everyone already said those maybe this will help http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/wake-induced-lucid-dreams.html

It seems TO ME that once you get good at mediation, astral projection and lucid dreaming will be easier but I was never good at lucid dreaming and haven't try to astral project yet

I THINK I did it once but not gonna lie had a bit of help and I got spooked back into my body

>>93540

>I know how to lucid dream

any tips for the rest of us?

>>93542

but how many guys lucid dream and their waking "reality" hasn't changed

>>93544

>>93546

hold on I'm thinking….

>>93573

>any tips for the rest of us?

Read about it. Meditate. Stimulate the energy body.

>but how many guys lucid dream and their waking "reality" hasn't changed

Because they failed to become lucid in moments such as this.

What should I do for Ash Wednesday? What is its /fringe/ significance?

Does anyone have a good explanation about why Reiki is bad? I've seen a few times here on /fringe/ that it has something to do with astral parasites or whatever. There are other places on the internet that mention it's bad, but none of the things I've seen seem to explain it very well.

>>93597

Probably isn't

>>93597

reiki is based

just like jews are based

neither will rape your children you can trust me

>>93601

>>93602

Why do people respond to things in the question thread that they don't actually know the answer to?

>>93597

The more I looked into it the more suspicious I grew. You don't need these weird symbols to heal. You never need such things in classical pranic healing, so why is Reiki using them? They tell you all kinds of reasons that this is how it is supposed to be but they're actually tricking you into feeding their Reiki egregore/entities. That's what I heard from healers I met in real life.

Apparently they inject you with astral parasites that feed off you. Those symbols were designed for this purpose.

>>93621

every person you encounter leaves a bond, a connection, of different strengths. in sex this bond is thicker. so, yes, in a way it is true but certainly not that exaggerated. it's also totally reversible. no, it doesnt mean you can just fuck around and then take your spiritual abortion greenpill.

>>93622

Good thing I'm a virgin then. Does that mean I'm more protected?

>>93623

you still are susceptible to other, non-sexual, bonds

>>93623

No, it means you're ashamed of yourself and the laughingstock of your peer group.

>>93621

Yes very so much.

Has /fringe/ ever considered that most entities they consider to be succubi are just dudes LARPing as succubi?

>>93636

lame and overused trolling attempt

>>93637

as above, so below

someone should document /fringe/ catfish incidents

>>93638

how about you stop roleplaying, you closeted faggot

>>93640

relax the projections, I'm sure your specific succubus really is a female entity

>>93642

just fuck off with your stupid shitposting

>>93643

It's a seriously valid question and is on par with the roleplaying that's gone on so far in the past 2 question threads.

>>93645

It's alright then, you don't have to reply to a question you don't know anything about.

>>93647

Yes, those who answer questions whom have no knowledge of shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

>>93649

Probably because sea deer don't know how to speak human.

>>93651

Very nice, I'm 1/32 myself.

An old Polish woman I met in person recommended me this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_Key_System

She is a psychic.

Should I read it?

>>93654

of course goy

polish people are the chosen, she knows what's best for you

>>93654

1.Sitting still

2.Inhibiting all thought combined with previous exercise

3.Releasing physical tension combined with previous exercises

4.Letting go of all negative emotions combined with previous exercises

5.Visualising a pleasant place

6.Remembering details from a photo of someone

7.Visualising positive facial expressions on the face of a friend

8.Visualising everything that leads to the construction of a battleship

9.Visualising a flower growing from seed

10.Visualising certain geometric forms

11.Concentrating on a quote from the Bible; Mark 11:24

12.Contemplating your unity with Omnipotence

13.Contemplating being part of the Whole

14.Focusing on harmony

15.Contemplating the fact that knowledge needs to be applied to be useful

16.Contemplating that happiness and harmony are states of consciousness

17.Focusing on the object of your desire

18.Focusing on your power to create – create a logical basis for your faith

19.Total concentration on what you want

20.Focusing on "In Him we live and move and have our being"

21.Focusing on truth

22.Concentration on a Tennyson quote: "Speak to Him, thou, for He hears, and spirit with spirit can meet, Closer is He than breathing, and nearer than hands and feet."

23.Contemplating the fact that man is a spirit with a body

24.Realising that this is a wonderful world

Wow… it's that simple.

>>93654

What was the context? Why was she recommending it to you? It looks like a useful system, but there are plenty of systems that bring you more results and go into greater detail, based on what I read in the Wikipedia article. That's just my opinion, though. It doesn't seem like a negative thing or a huge waste of time, so there's no reason why you shouldn't other than not wanting to. If you do, let us know how useful it is.

>>93657

Holy mother of reddit spacing

>>93662

I only don't want to be rude to her. However I'm already well-read on New Thought and know all these things. Maybe I'll just try to explain to her I know it all already and I downloaded an looked at the books and went through them quickly. That's what I'll do.

>>93668

Maybe she thought you were a mundane.

>>93573

>any tips for the rest of us?

I'm the guy you originally replied to, and you absolutely do not need meditation to get into lucid dreaming proper, though it helps somewhat in some situations.

Read "Exploring the world of lucid dreaming" by Stephen LaBerge.

>>93576

>lucid

How do you become lucid in real?

how do i get my gf to spend the rest of her life with me

>>93689

>Read "Exploring the world of lucid dreaming" by Stephen LaBerge.

reading it and honestly doesn't say anything new.

>Keep a dream general

I have one and I dream maybe every 2 months so its next to useless. Guy says you should be able to recall one dream every night

even then it just looks more like the same stuff around here. visualize and repeat intention to self.

>>93698

I've got no experience with either of these but they seem relevant.

https://archive.is/Drqtt - How to make someone obsessed and in love with me

https://archive.is/yjGKT - Long range hypnosis

https://ghostbin.com/paste/mbk8f - this is an archive of old threads. You or anyone else reading might find something useful information for your answer there.

>>93706

tfw my thread got archived

>>93706

It's depressing how fewer shitposts and tripfags there were compared to now in these archived threads.

>>93721

Which thread was that

>>93723

Not even a week later and I miss fringechan a lot. Ironically we're part of the problem, complaining about it. All we can do is make better threads.

>>93725

So do you think fringechan had more quality posts? I didn't go there much, so as far as I could tell, all the crazies went to fringechan and all the assholes who like being disruptive came here (probably because of Fringe Wizard's lax rules). Considering the state of this board and the lack of transparency from whoever the new board owner is, it's tempting to start frequenting fringechan if it comes back.

>>93727

Quality posts and a community that demanded better standards. Slower board and slower threads but shitpost threads barely existed and shitpost replies in the better threads were very uncommon. Every thread had a relevant response and information. Even the ones with only 2-3 replies.

@beachmaster @pplwhodontdream

You've closed your crown and your heart, your third eye could not be aligned with third eye.

Fix it or stay dreamless.

I don't explore the astral and try not to engage in draining lucid dream battles or encounters, takes to much energy and sometimes it feels like I'm getting tricked into unleashing loosh, imlolating stuff so that whatever is watching can absorb it.

If you're not looking for answers in your dreams, it's not worth it. Don't even wanna talk about all the stupid bad things that can happen if you trust the wrong thing in one of these endeavors and someone accidentally invited something home, not good.

Either be in control or don't explore the astral.

Be in control by having a steady third eye, consciousness in the dream.

You also need to meditate for some time to rid yourself of all bad qualities such as fear.

If you're not courageous and on the top of the food chain in there you will be hunted and harried to waking state.

>>93725

>Which thread was that

the long range hypnosis one

>>93735

>I don't explore the astral

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>>93740

Been there done that, found heaven, need to be grounded to bring it to Earth.

>>93742

Only useful idiots are given a weapon/power by their master, are you useful?

>>93723

depressing how?

>>93725

>Ironically we're part of the problem, complaining about it. All we can do is make better threads.

well at least somebodies aware

>>93727

>So do you think fringechan had more quality posts?

not really no, it seemed more or less the same as fringe but with the ""left hand path"" twist to it.

>it's tempting to start frequenting fringechan if it comes back.

http://freech.net/fringe/

here go nuts

>>93733

>>93728

hi Alpam

>>93735

>your third eye could not be aligned with third eye.

wut?

> I don't explore the astral

Then how do you know how my chakras are?

>>93698

treating here well, having fun together. love but that only really happens if you guys have the right alchemy together.

>>93576

And again; How do you become lucid in the real?

>>93762

Practice oneness meditation and put your awareness into your naval or heart center in day to day life.

Try doing shit with the opposite hand you write with also as this will force you to be more aware and conscious or get hurt/not be able to do much. Practice void meditation and one pointedness meditation. Breath energy into your three main energy centers (naval heart center and head). Live in the now.

>>93767

Thank you. I'll try this.

>>93768

No problemo buddy, you should be making awareness gains at super sanic speed doing all that.

>>93745

Whatever you want I will do it, in exchange.

>>93769

As long as you remain consistent that is.

>>93770

>Whatever you want I will do it

>whatever THEY want I will do

ftfy

You shouldn't sigh up to be a tool unless you know it will benefit you, and who EXACTLY you are signing your will over to.

>>93772

I wanna b ur tool bb xoxo

Today I am a new man because of YOU fringe Thank you.

>>93773

Post boy pussy then.

>>93765

Unless you want to make a new /fringe/-themed board with stricter rules to stop tripfags etc, I don't think anything is about to change. Even then, you'd have to convince everyone to start going there.

>>93784

Why are you even here? All you do is fucking complain. Every time I see you post it's to bitch about something. Are you perhaps a divide and conquer shill? Also if you have such a problem with a tripfag fucking filter them.

>>93785

if only I could filter no flag faggot.

>>93785

Most of my posts are answering people's questions in these threads. Do you think everyone who doesn't have a flag is the same person? No flag is the default flag. I'd guess quite a large proportion of the people who post here don't have a flag. I'm definitely not the only person complaining about tripfags and poor quality content. I don't know how long you've been on imageboards, but there's a particular kind of person who becomes a tripfag, and banning them has always been the only way to deal with them. I could go into detail, but that would be more complaining, and you seem a bit angry about that.

>>93789

My problem with you is that the guy you responded to was promoting the fact that if you want /fringe/ to become great again it's US that have to do it.

>We must be the one's to change it, to embody and radiate the world we wish to manifest and see, one post at a time if need be.

And instead of seeing that he's fucking right and trying to make /fringe/ better you fall back to your defeatist attitude of, "oh boohoo theres no point, the super evil tripfags will ruin the day :'((((("

All your complaints are doing is turning people off. If you don't think /fringe/ is savable then just leave, maybe start your own board like you said before, but staying here and complaining is so much worse than the actual shitposting. If you think it's savable then stop your bitching cause that's doing zero good.

Also.

>but there's a particular kind of person who becomes a tripfag, and banning them has always been the only way to deal with them.

FILTER THEM. THAT OPTION IS THERE FOR A REASON.

Rolled 24, 10, 44, 5 = 83 (4d46)

>>93774

your welcome dont know what I did but glad to help

>>93800

You're reading me all wrong, anon. I don't know why you're so angry, either. I know that other anon is right, and I was responding to them constructively. What do you expect us to accomplish when the problem is other people disrupting conversation? I don't have a defeatist attitude at all. Creating a new board with different rules is a constructive option for making a better community where people can talk about the occult. I don't see you making any suggestions. I've named what I think the problem with the board is, other than the lack of mod transparency, and I've offered one potential solution. Then you say all my complaints are doing is turning people off. In the past month I've personally probably made 4 or 5 posts about this. If anything is turning people off, it's the constant barrage of shitty posts that make people think this board is a joke where they can't actually talk about the occult in a serious way. It's half the responses to the questions in the question thread not being answers to the questions. I'm not complaining about constantly seeing posts I don't want to see. I'm complaining about the culture here going from serious to not serious, which can stop newfigs who find the board from taking a serious, objective look at the ideas.

>>93804

>You're reading me all wrong, anon. I don't know why you're so angry, either.

I'm angry because /fringe/ has changed and there's those of us trying to fix it and then there's people like you that are just wallowing in defeat.

>What do you expect us to accomplish when the problem is other people disrupting conversation?

WHAT DISRUPTION??? This meme is being blown out of proportion. Please link me some RECENT cases of disruption of conversation.

>I don't have a defeatist attitude at all.

You do, I'm surprised you can't see it. You literally just said "What do you expect us to accomplish when the problem is other people disrupting conversation?". How is that not a defeatist attitude?

>Creating a new board with different rules is a constructive option for making a better community where people can talk about the occult.

Then do it? Whats stopping you? What rules would you put in place? Cause i get the impression that you would be a very rule-cucky no fun kind of mod but who knows.

> In the past month I've personally probably made 4 or 5 posts about this.

Cmon dawg, you know damn well this isn't true. Your posting style is really recognizable.

> If anything is turning people off, it's the constant barrage of shitty posts that make people think this board is a joke where they can't actually talk about the occult in a serious way.

Again you're honestly exaggerating the situation. Constant barrage? Really? I will concede this though. What happened in the previous questions thread and the shitty man-dog thread was unacceptable, but i doubt that will happen again. It was a one time thing. But that's in the past and you shouldn't assume that /fringe/ is constantly like that. I feel like when that happened it skewed your perception.

>I'm not complaining about constantly seeing posts I don't want to see.

Literally what you're doing.

>I'm complaining about the culture here going from serious to not serious, which can stop newfigs who find the board from taking a serious, objective look at the ideas.

It has gone to that because people stopped posting serious things because they are neutered with the mentality of "What do you expect us to accomplish when the problem is other people disrupting conversation?". You're one of those people that doesn't try things because they're too afraid of failure which is a horrible mentality. You'll never do anything great with a handicap like that.

Again, if you want change. Become it. Don't just talk about it, make it happen.

>>93809

>Please link me some RECENT cases of disruption of conversation.

Yeah nevermind I'll concede this part too, but the garbage is really easily identifiable and it's not at the amount of not being able to have a discussion. it's just that there are only a few people actually trying to have one.

>>93809

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point? I feel like you're ignoring half of what I'm saying just so you have someone to yell at on the internet.

>there's those of us trying to fix it and then there's people like you

>Again, if you want change. Become it. Don't just talk about it, make it happen.

What are you doing to try to fix it? Right now all you're doing is being angry at me for offering a potential solution. You still haven't offered any kind of suggestion about how the board could be improved. Stop talking out of your ass. What I said in that reply was very simple. The board has rules that allow people to spam the board and post nonsense as much as they want. I agree that, obviously, the board has been far worse than it currently is, like a month or two ago when that one guy was posting 5 or 6 replies every thread calling us all nutcases for a few weeks. Regardless of the current level of it, the rules have been that way since the board began, as far as I can tell, and we've heard nothing about/from the new board owner, so they're not about to change. One way to have a board with more quality content is to make an entirely different board with better rules. That's a possible solution to the problem. It isn't one I like or want to implement, but it's a possible solution. I really don't know how I can make it any clearer that all I'm doing is trying to start the conversation. How is this defeatism? Am I suggesting we all leave the internet and never talk about the occult again? The infrastructure of this website is built around making new boards when there are issues with the current ones. Bringing up that point isn't "wallowing in defeat", so I really don't see any reason for you to be so angry.

>How is that not a defeatist attitude?

How is it a defeatist attitude? It's not a rhetorical question, it's one I want you to answer, so that we can have a constructive conversation about making the board an easier place to assimilate newfigs.

>you know damn well this isn't true

>Literally what you're doing.

>You're one of those people that doesn't try things because they're too afraid of failure which is a horrible mentality

Now you're just trying to make me seem like a shitty person. If you're so fixated on fixing the board, how is calling me a liar, making huge assertions about me being "afraid of failure" based on god knows what, and implying I'm the only one complaining helping in any way? Give us all some suggestions about how to improve the board. Literally anything. You haven't done that once this entire time. What do you think we should do about the board?

>>93810

Ironically, this conversation is an example of something that has nothing to do with questions and answers. Before you throw that back on me, you started this because you wanted me to shut up.

>there are only a few people actually trying to have one

Do you think that's because nobody cares about the occult, or because this doesn't seem like a great place to have that conversation? In the past couple months there seems to have been a lot less questions, despite Kek's growing popularity and other things like that that introduce people to the occult. Since you seem to need this pointed out to you, I do want you to answer that question.

Rolled 3, 3, 5, 5 = 16 (4d6)

>>93784

>board with stricter rules to stop tripfags

>because trip fags are the problem

you don't get to larp like anon if you don't play by the same rules no-flaggot

>>93725

>>93728

>>93752

>>93715

>>93724

>>93734

I'm already sick of fringechan sock puppets whining on and on. the only reason they got into this mess was because alpalm is a shitty admin who flooded his own chan with CP just to make mossa look bad >>93594

What if instead of shitposting in this thread we all got up and left /fringe/

Not like non-tripfags contribute, they just sound less retarded because they know how to stay within bounds of moderate discussion.

>>93812

>What are you doing to try to fix it?

I'm trying to tell people that it's not as bad as they think it is. There's still the opportunity to discuss but people just don't want to because they think they'll get flooded with shitposts which simply isn't true. There may be a few but if you're actually trying to invite discussion people looking for discussion will find you.

>Right now all you're doing is being angry at me for offering a potential solution.

I'm telling you if you have a problem, fix it. You see a solution, act on it. It really annoys me when people see a solution to a problem and they don't want to manifest it.

>Regardless of the current level of it, the rules have been that way since the board began, as far as I can tell, and we've heard nothing about/from the new board owner, so they're not about to change.

If you haven't heard anything from the owner by now, don't expect them to say anything anytime soon. It's time to stop waiting for the BO to do something and we gotta take action.

>You still haven't offered any kind of suggestion about how the board could be improved.

The solutions are clear, it's either try to have discussions here and make the best of this situation or make a new board. Those are the only visible solutions.

>How is it a defeatist attitude? It's not a rhetorical question, it's one I want you to answer, so that we can have a constructive conversation about making the board an easier place to assimilate newfigs.

Because the way you format your question "What do you expect us to accomplish when the problem is other people disrupting conversation?". You're heavily implying that you can't have a conversation here because you'll just get "bombarded by shitposts" My point is that this idea is hyperbolic of the position of /fringe/ and making it seem worse than it actually is. This mentality is whats stopping other people from posting and it's what I want people to stop believing.

>Give us all some suggestions about how to improve the board. Literally anything. You haven't done that once this entire time. What do you think we should do about the board?

Like i said earlier. It's either make the best of this situation and TRY to have discussions or migrate.

>Do you think that's because nobody cares about the occult, or because this doesn't seem like a great place to have that conversation? In the past couple months there seems to have been a lot less questions, despite Kek's growing popularity and other things like that that introduce people to the occult.

It's because people aren't trying to have conversations here anymore. It looks like everyone has given up on /fringe/ except for very few people and I want them to come back and try to participate again. It's either that or create a new environment where they are actually willing to participate in. Everyone's left and it's really upsetting to me and makes me angry that they would just abandon it and then complain that there's no quality. There's no quality because you (not you specifically noflag anon) aren't posting quality! That's the point I'm trying to get across. The only way to fix /fringe/ is to fix it ourselves. We want quality? Then we have to post quality. Don't like the rules? Then we make a new board.

>>93816

Wait, so you agree with me? What the fuck was the point of all the hostility and accusations, then? Whether or not we agree about the amount of shit (my opinion is based on the last few months, rather than just the last couple weeks, which might be where we differ), this all boils down to people voicing ideas, and that's what I did.

>>93817

The hostility is because you were helping spread the idea that /fringe/ is this god forsaken shit place that you can't even have a discussion on. Don't you think that is more damaging to a newfig than a couple shit posts here and there? If you actually wanted to bring more discussion to /fringe/ then you wouldn't have even bothered mentioning that even if you believed it as this does more harm than good. Were you trying to pressure the BO to respond? Well that's not happening.

So the logical conclusion for me was that you were trying to instigate the migration. So this made me even more mad that you think we should migrate and you didn't have the confidence to make the board. I felt you were being indecisive and can't decide if you want to stay on /fringe/ or try a new board. Looking back now though I see you were trying to start a discussion about the migration, but unfortunately that discussion isn't happening. I personally think we can still stay here but it will only work if we're all on the same page and actually participate. If people want to make a new board then find a good BO and have him make it. No offence but a no tripcode rule is fucking cancer and I wouldn't want anything to do with that. Would you ban Alpam Khan Mossa and tipp because they namefagged? I don't want that.

>>93818

Hey you guys take meta-board discussion to >>>/ask/ it exists for a reason.

t. the B.O. (and I don't know what you guys are discussing right now, I just saw this one post, and I'm responding to it quickly… sorry that I don't post much but a wizard of my level keeps busy with a lot of magickal workings.

Any summaries, concerns, etc. please take it there and keep it concise and to the point and I will read it on my own time and give a response.

>>93818

>>93817

You guys wouldn't happen to have any sources on servitor making would you? like for memorizing stuff?

How the hell did you guys get CSS working on your board? No matter how many times I save CSS for my board, it won't stick, and the one time it actually did save, the page wouldn't apply it.

Any ideas?

>>93823

it takes a while, mine was instant the first time, then i change it again a minute later and it took like an hour to apply.

Also make sure you're using the allowed links only, others won't work. The allowed links are on the left side of the css box, id tell you what they are but i cbf to log in right now.

>>93822

Unfortunately not, maybe there's something here >>93730 and if not hopefully someone else can you help you.

>>93820

>>>/ask/4560

>>93824

Cool, thanks, hopefully it'll work eventually, then.

Hi.

After meditating, (more like breathing excercize really, my mind admittedly wasn't completely empty) I closed my eyes and saw an arrow pointing up. I don't know if this was a vision, I wasn't looking for anything it just happened but it was oddly specific and this is why.

After looking up, mentally, there were golden rays from the sun or so I thought but looking up again there was no sun, there were clouds and a cloud in particular obscuring the source of the light. Think world of warcraft spirit world sky, the same thing basically but with the cloud at the center.

I removed the cloud with my thought and there was a circle made of metal and a hexagon at the center.

It was kind of spooky, like the sun was fake and this thing was in its place. I felt trapped.

I thought about the demiurge and the false reality, is this what I could have seen?

Does this have anything to do with the third eye?

I would have said it was just my imagination but damn, that was so specific.

>>93835

Also the clouds were black.

>>93836

Happened to a bunch of us recently. It's just scales falling off of your eyes.

>>93700

>I dream maybe every 2 months

You're doing it wrong, you have REM cycles every night and you must learn how to capture and remember those dreams. To me it seems you haven't read the book at all, since it clearly covers people who have a hard time remembering their dreams, and clearly suggests you setting up an alarm so you wake up during one of those REM cycles.

>visualize and repeat intention to self

The book presents many techniques to increase lucid dreaming frequency, and makes strong use of prospective memory. It is by no means as simple as you make it sound.

Actually READ the book. Actually DO the exercises.

>>93844

Hey there, I too am trying to lucid dream, I even do the digital clock/count fingers every hour since more than a month but I can't seem to get lucid in my dreams.

>>93700

Try to change your sleep schedule, when I "didn't dream" it was because I had the wrong schedule.

>>93845

>Hey there, I too am trying to lucid dream, I even do the digital clock/count fingers every hour since more than a month but I can't seem to get lucid in my dreams.

It is generally accepted that some people can take way longer than others to have their first lucid dream, but keep at it, after the first one you'll have them way more frequently, especially if you keep practicing. Remember that, ultimately, your goal is to seed intention into the subconscious, so abolish doubt; repeat to yourself every night before going to sleep: "I will lucid dream today; I will realize I'm dreaming, today, not tomorrow, today!"

It may also help to stop thinking about it for a while since frustration can hinder your progress.

What more can I do to bring about the reality that I want, besides focusing on it's vision and feeling happy about it during meditation?

>>93844

>you must learn how to capture and remember those dreams.

>If you want to lucid dream then you have to dream

thanks….great help

>To me it seems you haven't read the book at all

your right I skimmed it because it just gives alot of details for the same techniques

>The book presents many techniques to increase lucid dreaming frequency

yeah and alot of them are just relax repeat intention and he just switches intention with resolution here and there.

>It is by no means as simple as you make it sound.

I disagree that's basically all the practices are that and asking 2deep4u questions to my self but I BEEN doing that.

>Actually READ the book. Actually DO the exercises.

got any other books?

>>93851

What are you talking about? These were things that worked for me and which are extensively discussed in the book.

I'm not an occultist you retard, lucid dreaming is not occult.

>>93850

>yeah and alot of them are just relax repeat intention and he just switches intention with resolution here and there.

No, it's about prospective memory, and many if not most exercises deal with that prospective memory. ACTUALLY READ THE BOOK.

>>93878

I'm not an occultist you retard, lucid dreaming is not occult.

>lucid dreaming is not occult.

then neither are regular dreams then and their shouldn't be a dream thread.

>it's about prospective memory,

so is about lucid dreaming or prospective memory? are they the same?

>>93963

HAIL KEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>93804

Fringe is a failed board, tbh. We don't have enough people posting to create a hivemind. There are maybe 20 people posting on a good month, and we don't have much in common.

Nobody likes the tripfags. Nobody should respond to their cries for attention. It's just random dogshit that benefits nobody.

The locking of legitimate threads has also driven several people away indefinitely. For some reason, whoever moderates this shit is fucking autistic about some arbitrary rules and can't let anything slide. Yet they let the fucking triptards fuck every goddamn thread right in the ass. The mods even let their tripshitfucking bullshit threads with no intent for anything but noise go because they don't technically break any rules. God, I want to cave in their skull already. Fuck this shit. I'm done.

>>94067

bye

>>93879

>ACTUALLY READ THE BOOK.

pg21 how to recall your dreams

>The first step to good dream recall is getting plenty of sleep.

done

>If you find that you sleep too deeply to awaken from your dreams, try setting an alarm clock to awaken you at a time when you are likely to be dreaming.

Trying for 4:30am for tonight

>Another important prerequisite to recalling dreams is motivation. For many people it is enough to intend to remember their dreams and remind intention just before bed.

I don't doubt that but the whole problem with the book is that unless you start remembering your dreams theirs no point in reading the rest of it.

>>94069

Well duh! Whats the point of having dreams if you don't remember it?

Do the things it tells you.

>>93885

>then neither are regular dreams then and their shouldn't be a dream thread.

Yes, dreams aren't occult, what's new about this?

>so is about lucid dreaming or prospective memory? are they the same?

Prospective memory is the number one way to induce DILDs.

>>94070

>Whats the point of having dreams if you don't remember it?

you tell me sense all you do is blame me for the quality around here.

>Do the things it tells you.

HURR DURR remember your dreams!

thanks

>>94075

It tells you how to help with remembering your dreams, stop being a sperg, I'm trying to help you. Do the clock thing, it usually works. Even if you don't remember at first write ANYTHING down, it clearly tells you (Pages 37-39) what you could do to get to not remembering anything to remembering your dreams:

>cling to any clues of what you might have been experiencing…

Before that he writes that even if you just remember a fragment of a feeling or something as vague as that note it down as it will help you improve. The book by no means goes into it with the mind set that "recalling dreams is easy and everyone can do it right away", and it gives you clear ways to make progress towards remembering detailed dreams from a point where you can remember nothing at all. I don't know what else to tell you, honestly, do you want like a magic potion or something that'll make it just instantly happen? Many people struggle with recal, you're not special.

READ THE BOOK, or fuck off, what do I care?

>>93814

Don't you ever think maybe some of the community actually liked fringechan and what it stood for. The CP problem wasn't a thing until months after Mossa left so you're really grasping at straws. Honestly you and the whole cancer crew that took over this place are a disgrace to any true seeker. I have literally not seen a single good constructive insightful post from any of the cancerfags that took this place over yet.

Rolled 9, 14, 3, 10 = 36 (4d19)

>>94077

>Do the clock thing,

>>94069

>Trying for 4:30am for tonight

>Even if you don't remember at first write ANYTHING down.

fake it until you make it, super

>do you want like a magic potion or something that'll make it just instantly happen

that be nice wouldn't it?

>you're not special.

are you?

>READ THE BOOK, or fuck off, what do I care?

If you don't then I rather be talking to some one that does.

>>94079

>Don't you ever think maybe some of the community actually liked fringechan and what it stood for.

which was what exactly? cause last time I checked you can still filter me if shitpost are the concern.

>Honestly you and the whole cancer crew

who me and Socks4Hands? he made one thread and we shitposted in it. he comments now and then but he usually isn't all over the place like I am

>I have literally not seen a single good constructive insightful post from any of the cancerfags

and what pearls of wisdom have you dropped?

tbg 8gag died completely in February 2016 when freddit and 4gag invaded and turned it into memebase.gov

this is correct

>>94093

Hey Smiley I had a question,

I'm making an alternative to /pol/ an wanted your help in making a good CSS for the board. I love your CSS work (looshfront was probably my favorite) and would love a futurefash AESTHETIC type CSS.

Come hit us up on the >>>/polk/ sticky if you would want to work on it. appreciate ya

>>93848

Are you thinking about what you want as if it's already true in the present tense?

Is anyone here versed in Enochian magic?

>>94067

You really don't understand magic if you think our threads are nothing but noise.

>>94084

More than you know.

>>94114

In case nobody shows up to help you, I've seen people discuss Enochian magic here before, so there might be a thread archived somewhere. Personally, I could upload books for you, but I haven't read any of them and know barely anything, other than a couple words (I know hubardo means lantern).

>>94082

>fake it until you make it, super

That's something I didn't want to get into, but it is also true in a way. Sometimes it helps to write whatever down and just ask yourself "did I dream this?" It'll make you focus on dream recall and with luck it'll trigger dream memories.

>Trying for 4:30am for tonight

I don't know why you think I didn't read that.

>that be nice wouldn't it?

>are you?

>If you don't then I rather be talking to some one that does.

Shit man, I've been trying hard to help you, do you think I really don't care? I shouldn't that's for sure, you sound like an entitled faggot and I don't know what to tell you any more. There are really no tricks to it, you need dream recall, and dream recall is a skill you must exercise. I don't know what you want me to tell you.

I got this book for review - "Prayers of the Cosmos - Meditations on the Aramaic Words of Jesus". After all my life experiences, especially the negatives one with Abrahamic type of things, I am hesitant about it, but still gotta give my opinion. Anyone else know of it?

>>94126

>I don't know why you think I didn't read that.

>Do the clock thing,

>keep on doing clock thing

ftfy

>I shouldn't that's for sure

that makes two of us then

>you sound like an entitled faggot

literally my third day of retrying lucid dreaming again I wasn't expecting miracles. although that would have been nice.

"As far as we know, this is the first time that detailed instructions on lucid dreaming have been widely available to the general public"

>literally one of the first books on lucid dreaming

>If it doesn't work it's your fault

"However, you are not likely to learn lucid dreaming by quickly skimming through this book."

>Yet there's no point to the rest of the book if you cant get past step one

When I can recall my dreams I'll actually read the rest of it.

>I don't know what you want me to tell you.

answer the question >are you special?

>>94116

>More than you know

don't worry I'll wait for you to prove that.

>Inb4 I don't have to prove anything to you

;^)

>>94130

>literally one of the first books on lucid dreaming

>If it doesn't work it's your fault

This would've been a GREAT argument, except this is still considered the best way to go about lucid dreaming and has made countless people lucid dream before. Go ahead, read another book or even dreamviews guides section; protip: you'll find little that hasn't been covered by that book in terms of DILDs.

>are you special?

No, but you actually are: there are few as autismo as you :^)

>>94107

Yes, I'd like more methods though

>>94151

Focusing as much as you can on the emotion associated with what you want can help. If you wanted to succeed at everything you're trying to accomplish, spending time forcibly feeling the way you feel when you succeed at something you tried your hardest to do can bring more events into your life that cause you to feel success, for example. Montalk's Reality Creation Redux explains that in more detail. You could try asking your higher self directly. For me personally, I get the most success that way, but it depends on what you want to happen. Creative visualization is good, obviously keeping in mind that your intent should be based on something present tense and should be based on a positive statement (e.g. "I succeed" rather than "I don't fail"). Autosuggestion is good for things that alter your personality, rather than affecting the outside world, at least according to that one part of IIH, and it works best while you're going to sleep and right after you wake up. Same principals as creative visualization, too. It's good to focus on one goal at a time, maybe until it manifests or maybe for a set amount of time, like each day for a week depending on how big it is, staying confident that what you did worked. I don't think there's a set amount of time. I think it depends on too many factors. Keep in mind also that, if this makes sense (I don't know what you're trying to manifest), you have to take opportunities that present themselves and act towards your goals, and not expect everything to just happen. Also keep in mind that what you want to manifest needs to be something that's within your sphere of availability. You could try to manifest a billion dollars, but it's extremely unlikely if you're not already in a situation in which you could get a billion dollars. If all that fails, you could try jerking off to a bunch of sigils.

What do you guys tend to do when you don't know how to interpret synchronicities? I can probably figure my situation out for myself, but I'm curious.

>>94158

>Montalk's Reality

oh boy

>you have to take opportunities that present themselves

>you want to manifest needs to be something that's within your sphere of availability.

Then It's not reality creation it's just repeating intention to self and taking whatever you get.

>>94158

>you could try jerking off to a bunch of sigils.

What if I jerk off to sigils because I want billion dollars?

Anyone else here basically unable to interact with or have experiences with aliens until they focus on montalk, the site in general, or the symbol/flag for it, etc. and then you're able to draw them to you?

My personal feeling is that Montalk's aliens are just Ebola Chan and our various egregores we've created on imageboards. Collections of thought/energy that resonate with each other and connect you to specific forms of consciousness and realities.

I think the truth is, everything is a LOT bigger than a handful of aliens, and at the same time a lot smaller (in essence). Infinite variety of combinations and outward forms, but not so confusing to the mind who sees through that.

>>94158

>You could try asking your higher self directly.

How do I do that?

Im scared.

What kind of magick besides tulpas, and astral projection would you have somebody learn to entertain themselves while alone with no computer, and fasting?

>>94220

neither, energy work for two years minimum before doing anything stupid you can't reverse yet.

>>94221

Why is energy work important, and why does it take 2 years?

>>94222

all these spoopy things the bullshit occultists do are symptoms of practicing energy work actively and consciously.

practicing any of the "siddhis" without them coming to you relatively naturally could leave you an emotional wreck or a broken husk, scared, paranoid, mentally ill and everything related.

without knowing energy work you would have a hard time banishing anything you accidentally let in and you would have a hard time going back undoing damage from a failed working.

>save

its like keeping a save of your alignments, what you think and feel what you are courageous of and what not, if i fuck up a working to change my persona and it goes wrong i do this, if you get stuck with a parasite from astral travels where you can't defend yourself or a tulpa that goes haywire and you don't know how to kill and assimilate it you're in a bathtub of bad potions friend.

go learn energy work.

>>94219

UPDATE LATEST NEWS FIREMAN SLIPPED AND DIED ON IT TRYING TO REMOVE IT, THERES BLOOD MAGIC IN THE AIR

>>94223

I appreciate that, but how about I just skip ahead to the cool stuff head long.

>>94220

Divination, seeing auras, psionics, evocation if you're experienced enough and know how to get rid of the thing, or, from a different perspective, you could manifest excitement into your life.

>>94225

The occult isn't something that gives you instant gratification.

>>94171

I was looking for inspiration more than direct answers, so thanks regardless.

>>94220

Go outside and perform some weather magic, burst some clouds or bring some in.

Looking for entertainment? Could also play around with automatic writing and drawing. Sketch some potential sigils.

>>93367

I never saw it that way, thanks

>>93522

>look at me… LOOK AT ME

>>94237

No, look at me!

>>94237

>>94242

look at me… LOOK AT ME!! I'm the walrus goo goo g'joob

>>94243

>>94242

>>94237

niggers

anyone else have perverted dreams last night? wondering if this was some kind of attack. it was like my normal dream self was just saturated with lust

>>94206

Bump

>>94251

I did. I got in trouble for it in the dream too because she was underage.

>>94254

I'm underage too though, so it's okay. :^)

>>94251

Me and I normally don't ever. I was trying to practice telepathy though. I wonder if you're the gal in the astral I fugged.

>>94258

ha no i'm a dude. I'm not talking regular consensual sex dreams i mean sex with someone or something that is wrong by your own standards.

my dream was like specifically exactly the kind of sexual act that i intend to avoid or to remove from my psyche. it was like i experienced myself indulging in the exact thing that refuse to allow myself to indulge in.

anyone else have disturbing sexual dreams? seems like it wasn't just me.

I'm reading Far Journeys by Robert Monroe, and I'm confused about something. Is the Someone from Somewhere who created the Garden of Earth to farm humans etc for loosh the Demiurge? I can't tell if the book is implying that they created the entire of physical existence or if physical existence already existed (meaning they're not the same thing) and the Someone from Somewhere only created, like, life, or whatever the fuck. This book is confusing, since so much of it is hard to describe verbally.

>>93706

The links are not working

>>93311

>needing to sleep for over half the day

Have you ever had a job, and how long have you been sleeping like that?

When I'm out of work I usually fall into ridiculous sleep patterns too, sleeping 12+ hours like you said. When I got a job even though it was physically intensive I actually needed to sleep less, go figure. Sitting on your ass all day just drains the shit out of you.

Hey fags, has anybody ever tried to use their heartbeat as an objection of concentration for meditative purposes?

There's hardly any information on using the heartbeat as an meditation object.

>>93315

>this place is designed to make people beg

What? Explaine.

>>94149

>Go ahead, read another book

I'm going to because very rarely in my experience has there been one book with all the answers.

>you'll find little that hasn't been covered by that book in terms of DILDs.

See from my own research most people say you should combine techniques to make the most of it, and there are a couple of different techniques.

>but you actually are: there are few as autismo as you :^)

I must be special if you feel the need to violate my privacy.

>>94291

I tend to, since when I wear earplugs my pulse becomes a way more obvious sound. What information would you actually want about something like that though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bJvLEQCYCA&index=26&list=PLQy2merXz1MXGfR6-r2cINnd7UcVeh48I

>learn meditation

>get good at energy work

>let the energy and flow of life express itself through your body

>instinctively pull of similar but better moves than vid related

>achieve all siddhis naturally in due time

You ever come out of a 10 minute dance trance like you're reborn? You should try it, its pretty nice.

Om namah Shivaya.

How dose one metaphysically manipulate people?

Perhaps some recommended reading on the subject?

>>94311

I could tell you but I'm not sure I want.

>>94312

Well not telling me would only limit my knowledge, I'm already doing experiments, all for good purposes of course, nothing too risky I'd hate to mess up any interpersonal relationships.

At this point I've found a few way's of doing this foe better or worse.

If it's a case were you may not feel I'm not deserving of your findings I shall shear my own first for all who wish to know.

Method 1. change aspects of your self metaphysically to suite others.

Method 2. create a feeling and intention around a idea or thing to change how they react.

Anyone know where that one angel thread is? Or have a link to the guys archive?

>>94314

That was my thread. I don't know why it got 404'd.

My thread is archived on 4chan's /x/ here: http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/18602086

>>94304

Considering the heartbeat is one of the few things literally everybody shares you'd think it might be a more common meditation object. It's also always present, so there seems to be the potential for practice in daily (kind of like how some people remain aware of the breath throughout the whole day). Yet when I google 'heartbeat as meditation object' I get like 3 forum posts and not much else mentioning it.

So that's why I was wondering if anybody else had seen it mentioned or had experience with that.

>>94317

THIS IS WHAT IS FUCKING WRONG WITH YOU BULLSHIT OCCULT SISSY WIZARDS AHHHHHHHHHHH

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT CRITICAL THOUGHT IS? ARE YOU FUCKING INCAPABLE OF DOING THINGS WITHOUT MIMICRY AND REGURGITATION OF OTHERS?

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>94317

It might be less common because it's a bit less obvious. Right now as I type this, I can't hear my pulse because it's not quiet enough, and I can only feel it faintly, but I'm completely aware of my breathing. I think the only thing focusing on your pulse has over focusing on your breath is the fact that there's no way to consciously control your pulse like you can with your breath. It's 100% observation with no room for error like if you start controlling your breathing, which exerts control over your physical body and can bring you out of a trance or a projection attempt or whatever. That's the only advantage I can think of. Have you done enough of it to notice anything yourself?

>>94311

You'd use regular manifestation techniques but make the intention that the person do what you want them to do. I also remember something about inserting your own thoughts into someone as if they're their own. I don't remember if that was something separate from just making thoughtforms the normal way. There's also the WWA Mind Power stuff. There's something important you've got to understand, though. Every person has free will and various other energies working in their lives to bring specific results. Manipulating people in this way channels energy of a specific intention from one person to the other. If that energy isn't as strong as their own opposite forces, it has to go somewhere, so it tends to go back the way it came. If your attempts to manipulate people aren't strong enough (which is more likely that not), you'll end up manipulating yourself.

>>94317

It's mentioned in science of breath

Does that part of IIH that talks about impregnating breathing, eating etc with a particular desire and not doing it for multiple desires (the "he who chases two hares at the same time will never catch one" thing) also apply to creative visualization etc? There was something somewhere about the impregnation thing only working for changes in your personality, I think, and it also says that autosuggestion only works for changes in your personality too, so I figure maybe they're different classes of things (maybe creative visualization etc doesn't have the same rules since you unconsciously power multiple thoughtforms throughout the day), but I don't know. I want to make some things happen long term (external to my physical body), but I'd have to focus on them all over the same time frame. If I only focused on making one of the things happen until it happened, the opportunity for all of the others would end.

>>94319

The heartbeat is indeed faint, that's kind of the major 'difficulty' with it, I found. However I was thinking maybe if you became more 'established' in the heartbeat it could always accompany you. When people repeat a mantra enough it kind of settles into their mind and starts repeating itself no matter what (ajapa). The same can more or less happen with the breath if you're aware of it in daily life, for long enough. I'd like to see if the same can be done with the heartbeat. Where it kind of dissociates from being purely a tactile sensation to like a 'beacon' of awareness, that you can kind of tether your mind to so it won't run all over the place.

>Have you done enough of it to notice anything yourself?

I've been experimenting with it but so far nothing peculiar. It' can sometimes be hard to identify the pulse, but other than that I do find the heartbeat innately more relaxing. It's kind of like a steady drum beat.

>>94321

I looked and all I could find is syncing up the counts of the in and out breath with the heartbeat.

How can I use the occult to get a GF?

No bullying please.

>>94334

My guess would be to apply what you've learned from the kybalion to alchemically transmute your personality into one that can get laid

>>94333

No you have to do 100,000 prostrations, 100 is too few

>>94337

That' what i meant.

in my country the "." is used a the "," position in numbers.

>Also what siddhi would you get?

I know everyone say "oh no don't get them they're burden " but I indeed desire to get them,deliberately.

How do I stop ageing?

Shani dev (Sanskrit: शनि, Śani) is one of the Navagraha (the nine primary celestial beings in Hindu astrology) of Jyotiṣa. Shani dev is embodied in the planet Saturn and is the Lord of Saturday.

Shani is a Deva and son of Surya and his wife Chhaya, hence also known as Chayyaputra. He is the elder brother of Yama, the Hindu god of death, who in some scriptures corresponds to the deliverance of justice. Surya's two sons Shani dev and Yama judge. Shani dev gives the results of one's deeds through one's life through appropriate punishments and rewards; Yama grants the results of one's deeds after death.

It is said that when Shani dev opened his eyes as a baby for the very first time, the sun went into an eclipse, which clearly denotes the impact of Shani dev on astrological charts. He is known as the greatest teacher and well wisher for the righteous as well the greatest punisher for those who follow the path of evil, betrayal, backstabbing and unjust revenge. Shani is also known as the lord of masses & God of Punishment and his blessings are thus considered very important in an individual's horoscope for bestowing him with mass following and popularity. He is depicted dark in colour, clothed in black; holding a sword, arrows and two daggers and mounted on a crow, which is Shani's vāhana. As protector of property, Shani dev is able to repress the thieving tendencies of birds.

Shani Jayanti the birth anniversary of Lord Shani falls on the Amavasya of Jyeshta month of Hindu calendar.

Shani dev, along with the goddess Jyestha, the god Yama, and the goddess Nirrti, are associated with the crow in Hindu mythology. Throughout Hindu mythology crows represent harmful and inauspicious characteristics, both of which Shani possesses.

Worship of Shani is done on Saturdays by offering to the god all his favourite items like oil, black cloth, black seeds, mustard oil.

Hindu traditions often include the worship of Shani dev in order to dispel dangerous ghosts and other supernatural beings. Worshipers also perform healing rituals and exorcisms that derive from local and regional folk traditions.

Binearal beats work?

>>94334

Read Models by Mark Manson.

Do this alongside SS+GOMAD

>>94375

Yes, and no; binaural beats can have a trance inducing effect but only from focus on them. They don't have anything to do with with inducing certain brainwave patterns in them selves.

>>94377

not true

>>94378

I could be wrong, but I don't think so. The study that validated the brain wave induction was done with old fashioned earphones that actually sent electric signals into the brain. I have no problem being wrong though, and I haven't studied it that much.

>>94331

Bump

>>94390

fucking bulllshit occult roleplaying manchild living in his mother's basement

>>94370

stop browsing this board and ask elsewhere, maybe there ill tell

I wish to become a better person mentally and physically. I need to purge all negativity from my mind. I've checked out the library but that's more general stuff, I don't know where to begin. I'm not so sure I want to delve into the actual practice of magic because I have zero understanding of it and I'm afraid of practicing it because I'm not entirely religious, I do believe in God and I'm unsure if this is alright to be completely honest. I'm sorry, you must hate these newfig questions but all I need is a point in the right direction.

>>94395

Forgot a bit. I didn't want to give my life story and make it longer then need be, but I feel like shit, I would say I'm depressed I can't put thoughts together I'm not alright.

>>94395

I'd recommend you begin by doing the practical work from initiation into hermetics in order, the books in the library. The first few steps are building the foundation for you to begin delving into magic and focus on finding problems about yourself and fixing them. Also please don't feel sorry for asking questions, that actually gave me feels that you'd actually apologize for asking for help. I wish you luck famalam, I really do.

>>94394

Fine, I'll see you someplace I've never been soon I guess.

>>94316

thanks friend

Also any one got that image of that one chaos servitor that was fueled by the happiness of it's owner when random good stuff happens to him?

tell me what you guys think/know about [redacted]

What are demons /fringe/ ? Can you give me an insight on these creatures since this must be the place that knows a lot of stuff about demonology.

>>94409

only if you tell me what you think/know about [redacted]

>>94413

sadly i think/know nothing about Kenneth - because I have never heard of him before

>>94417

GO BACK TO REDDIT YOU FUCKING REDDITEER

TRAITS OF A BULLSHIT OCCULTIST

>believes in bullshit like demons and angels and succubi

>believes in rituals and mumbo jumbo BULLSHIT LARPING

>uses anything but his WILL

>uses the word "magick"

>thinks he can influence the external without being influenced as a result

>browses /fringe/

>>94422

>>believes in bullshit like demons and angels and succubi

you quack.

>>94395

>>94396

If you mean the Christian god then I have no idea why you're on /fringe/ but you could try autosuggestion (as you're going to sleep at just after you wake up, repeat to yourself in your head "I'm happy and I enjoy life", or something like that) or focus your attention on the feelings that the things that make you happy give you as much as possible, possibly in meditation too (and if there's literally nothing, which I doubt, it might help to expand your horizons and try new things, even in a small way like on the internet if you're cripplingly depressed). If you're strict in your beliefs, which you don't seem to be, not believing that either of those things do anything will stop them from doing anything. I know how dumb that sounds, but try to have an open mind about it. Maybe you just need a different perspective on life, too. The recommended reading list partially helped to bring me out of depression about 2 years ago. That also depends on how open minded you are.

>>94413

He was a good boy, he dindu nuffin. I hope he doesn't kill himself.

>>94423

*takes a hit of d' old bong*

dude did i ever tell you

*coughs*

about that time

*drools*

that time i summoned like totally summoned

*gets an erection*

a DEMON

*masturbates to porn*

a demon man it was like

*ejaculates into a napkin*

totally radical dude

*eats cheetos*

i am a magick master

*inhales from d' bong*

i am like totally radical dude

>>94398

Will read it, sounds neat.

>I wish you luck famalam, I really do.

I'm ready to give up porn, videogames and stop wasting time on the computer. I'm ready to start reading and fixing myself

Thanks a ton.

>>94424

I already do repeat positive stuff in my head every once in a bit it's actually helped but I wish to delve further into the mind and become a a greater person, a master of my mind and thoughts. There are a ton of books to choose from I'm gonna have to take a wild pick and see. Thanks a lot.

>>94426

wew sempaiits broad terms so of course it will hit home

10^10 meme, good loosh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdodBaCnIS8

Does this shit works?

How can I better my humour skills with magick?

New to all this, trying to learn to meditate correctly, and will later try to make a "memory palace".

I've been doing quiet-mind meditation to start out with, and plan on moving to more visualization meditation after a bit. I've also started decalcifying my pineal gland by taking iodine supplements and drinking distilled water.

Does this sound like a good starting point to meditation? Any advice? Other meditations that might be helpful? How do I know I'm meditating correctly? Sometimes I feel like I'm sitting there kinda bored, or antsy to move.

Has anyone had any success using magic to find a career path for them?

Ive been working towards a specific science degree and found out the program ive been trying to get into for the past 2 years wont accept me until fall of 2018 and im feeling very lost right now, maybe it wasent meant to be?

I will take any advice given, thank you for your time.

>>94449

>has magic help you get job?

Yes! Without magic, I'd have half as much work to do! Though half of my workload ias making talismans, wands, and ritual blades.

More related to you though, have you read the kybalion yet?

>>94456

thank you for your reply, yes i have read the kyballion but thats about it, im only a bit over halfway done with the arcane teaching

>>94459

Hey buddy, all the books from the faq are here. https://mega.nz/#F!6kJzEIJb!aVVgmWAM-aP_bU_8Co43FA

They should be inside the new thought folder.

cute doggo

>>93229

Hi there friends,

Popping in for additional advice.

Firstly on trances. Is trancing similar to layman termed meditation? Clearing of the mind etc? Once I have spent some time practicing, what else should I try? what resources are there?

Next for improving and maintaining a thoughtform:

Yoren is growing as a partner of Positivity, kindness, warmth and light. Even now he sits on my right shoulder.

How could I improve his ability to affect me in positive ways?

Any beginner reading material in general would be appreciated.

>>94466

please disregard, read the thread and am looking into the kybalion

Seriously though, is halting age possible?

>>94483

You just gotta kill yourself brah.

>>94485

Think I just reached enlightenment.

Cheers guv

>the righteous have become the worst in order to be righteous, the righteous must become the worst to learn from others so that they can become righteous but the worst will have a hard time with the worse and thus can't learn

Hmm.

>>94439

Help

>>94439

idk about that one but ive been using this on and off for about a week and half. First day i noticed the top of my eye changed to grey, the size of the tip of your fingernail is the amount that changed.. Other than first day though i haven't really seen much change but i also haven't listened or meditated as hard as first day either. First day I listened to it like 10 times and focused my attention to my eye throughout the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbTI7Uu5OjE

How do I edit my etheric body?

>>94506

Force it in shape.

If you get really good t energy work you will feel your whole etheric body like a warm liquid that molds into whatever shape you think/will it to.

If you even better your etheric body can take on the shape of animals, characteristics, to symbolise yourself and your thoughts.

Just be wary as, as above so below, your body will assume the shape of your etheric body and vice versa depending on what's decisively stronger.

You should be balanced in both these aspects to allow them to freely change shape at will+time.

A good idea is to work out and stretch as this massively empowers the etheric body ,it's energy will flow in less hindered pathways meaning you get stronger or of higher vibration.

I think everything is possible, because it is, the laws are the same everywhere.

If you think of a cube then make that cube turn into a horse then a TV, it's working and possible right? You see/thought it? These are the laws the universe operates by, without limitations, same thing would happen in real life if your thought wouldn't be diminished by the quantity of matter you're trying to change or the mind of the object.

Can you imagine life? Writing this I got a vision of life or creation being a ghost raising a mountain of sand perpetually forever.

Do people on this board generally buy into the "law of attraction"? It sounds like normie wishful thinking to me. I'm rather skeptical about it, but I haven't read any quality books that deal with it in a rigorous way.

Opinions on

http://templeofthevampire.com/

?

>>94510

It's basic magic. Should be amongst the first things to learn.

>>94439

That is easily tested. I'll try purple for lulz.

>>94501

Good luck with grey. People ask am i dead or something because the colour of my eyes.

>>94505

You indeed aswered the question. But what did you do?

Perhaps just being more aware?