/fringe/ - Fringe

>>36306

You can't defile freewill of individuals that have yet to manifest any actual freewill.

>>36307

They are excuses for hedonism and detract from actual advancement towards higher powers.

>>36316

There's one such text in the library in the chaos magick part and well you don't need to read any further on them just make one and start experimenting with it yourself.

>>36330

I don't know, it's not a problem for me, but in general you have to relax in the trance state and maybe you are prone to falling asleep while relaxed.

>>36335

What?

>>36366

One of the most cursed races on this planet I hate to ever be around them and I've never come across a jew that I didn't find reprehensible. Something about jews is rotten to the core.

>>36381

That's one rare Pepe I haven't seen before.

>>36387

If you entertain those ideas you will end up making them a reality so will yourself to perceive reality clearly and do not fear to makes mistakes for few people are fully free of delusions if any and yet they live their lives just fine.

>>36388

Real fucking trippy, they are a total mindfuck to interact with, I know a few.

>>36395

*tips fedora*

>>36408

Knowing the statistics about doctors I'd avoid the fuck out them and use magick and diet to fix my heart.

>>36426

The very last section of the Personal Power book is what you're looking for however I'd just use the technique of learning to use your emotions to charge the events you want to take place and putting them through a few thoughtforms to transmute them.

>>36431

There's an astral internet and I tried some experiments before with posting on /fringe/ from the astral and a lot of weird shit happened on /fringe/ as a result.

Y'all could use a virtual environment + visualization and have everyone in a group recreate that virtual environment in the astral and you all meet up in there then.

>>36442

I intentionally avoid awareness of my breath and have a hard time ignoring it. It is more important to become aware of the void, the nothing behind everything, and in so doing connecting to its power. Yet your physical senses assault you all the time making it so hard to perceive the nothing behind everything... do void meditation muh nigga.

>>36456

Remote viewing the stock market.

>>36465

>and that this reality isn't really malleable

Not true.

>>36469

All great "artists" whatever their field be, salesman, sculptor, military strategist, painter, musician, architect, etc. are essentially occultist wizards because all of them develop the powers of imagination to extremes to be able to do their work. See also: Magical Use of Thoughtforms by Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki to understand what I'm getting at.

Also some of the other books in the library will stress the point that magick was always interconnected with all other fields in the past (mathematics, physics, chemistry, etc. all had their esoteric sides) and even now it hasn't really stopped as occultists continue to this day to be the ones really advancing humanity forward.

Programming / software engineering has whole books and sites written about using magick while doing this. There's a whole cybershamanism / technowizard thing going on that is closely related to chaos magick. Being as you call yourself "a software engineer" doesn't have to be mundane at all.

Can I use magick to prosper in academia? If so, where should I start? I'm a complete newfig, only read the Kybalion from the sticky so far, and don't really know what to do next.

>>39412

Not sure if something like this was posted in the previous thread but would anyone like to share how practicing magic has affected their lives for the better/worst?

interested mundane here trying to find the encouragement for taking the first steps into wizardry. Thanks in advance!

To those of you that believe in putting emotion/energy into your occult studies to attain a greater knowledge and memory from the texts I have a question for you.

I have not slept at all last night, would it be wise to start reading some essential texts or will I not remember them well since I lack energy/emotion from no sleep?

I kind of want to catch up on them but want to remember them at the same time.

>>39424

magick isnt real

Hi /fringe/, I have some things to ask you all that you guys might be familiar with. I'm not really sure if these questions have been answered before.

Okay so, I wanna start off with this space in my head.

No, really. Ever since I was young, I was always "aware," would be the word I guess, of this space inside my head. It's the space where I assume thoughts would be. Thing is, I'm detached from the space of thought, and I just sit here filled with literally nothing inside my head. It's so hard to describe in detail so I guess I'll just describe it in action.

So let's take for example, me and my friends are discussing some TV show. As everyone else is snowballing and snowballing their own points of discussion, I would retreat into, or unto? not sure how to define it, myself and I would be aware of my thoughts but so far detached from them because that's what I'm used to, that is literally how I think. Then one of my friends would tap me in the shoulder and shake me out from my reverie, saying that I've been so quiet, which is usually disjointed from my usual lively self.

Adjunct to this, is that when I have no strong stimuli, it's like I'm just floating in this space of nothing, so much so that I can zone out and things start looking very black-staticky (think static if it was in hues of violets, blues and blacks instead of white and black.)

I thought that the above was caused by the fact that my dominant is introverted intuition (an MBTI bullshit thing,) where one of the signs of its dominance is detachment from the surroundings. However, I'm questioning myself if that really is the case because of my next point.

I've been meditating every day for about a month now. Now, whenever I do meditate, I don't become "aware" of the space in my head, but rather I fuse? merge? I am the space in my head I guess would be the term. And also, whenever I do meditate, I switch from void to focal meditation depending on how I feel, I get this throbbing headache right at the middle of my forehead.

Any thoughts?

>>39437

I was under the impression the the third eye was the ajna chakra? Am I confusing one definition for the other, or is something amiss in my mental landscape?

Also, may I ask what meditation you do?

Wow, that last paragraph. You've pretty much described into words the vague idea I have about how I think. Like, I can describe the shape of my own thoughts to other people, and when I learn more and more about that idea, the shape changes.

Hi fringe, i've had a pretty wierd dream last night. What's interesting about it is that it had the exact same eerie and dreadful atmosphere as my other dream that happened a long time ago, although i was not feeling very well in both situatons. So here goes:

I'm walking home along a familliar path with my friend at night, and we come across a crossroad. We mention how it's scary going this way or that way, so we go straight. Eventually we come across two fluffy white dogs, which i start cuddling with, and my friend starts being amazed because they aren't biting me. Then we continue walking, and suddenly, we notice some really scary bear in the distance behind us with a blue rag on it's body. It wants to chase us, so the dogs go there and chase him around. Or i think that's what happend.

Btw, i had yet another dream at the exact same location where a black dog bites me.

Yes, the two dogs went and delayed the bear, while we contined on home.

Then, all of a sudden i have to carry some crippled old woman who is very powerful so she could protect us from some monsters coming out of a portal, the dream basically becomes a videogame and even goes as far to breaking the fourth wall by saying: "Wow this is like an RPG".

The second dream is like im going to find a place for a field trip with my friends, and we come to a mansion. The dream is giving me the feeling i've always known this house, i've always been here, and it has an even stronger eerie feeling going for it. So i get a lot of chained dreams about this house, going through it's hauntings, unlocking it's doors, checking it's rooms etc. but there are a lot of mysterious people and voices inside it. When im finally able to get out of the courtyard, i come across some iron gate with a sink next to it, right when i try to look at the sink, some woman starts shrieking and i get dizzy from it.

What i wanna know is, why the exact same locations, animals and symbolism? Is it my subconscious telling me i should solve some problems? Some dude was telling about entering your inner world and cleaning up the things that make you feel fear, but that's kinda hard to believe. Is this my inner world? How do i "enter it"? Or am i just in the wrong part of the astral, since the moments i've had these dreams are times when i was feeling down.

Would be glad if someone could tell me what's going on here, thanks.

>>39439

>I was under the impression that the third eye was the ajna chakra

Actually, that makes a lot of sense. I guess people are just using the same term to refer to different concepts, just like the word "ego".

I don't know what kind of meditation I do but it's most likely a form of One-Pointedness. I simply sit still and just try to strengthen my awareness of a central point in my abdomen as I'm breathing. When my mind starts rushing with ideas, I try to be aware of both this central point in my abdomen, my breathing (expansion and contraction of abdomen wall) as well as the thoughts and of course, the forehead-pressure. It's tough but I'm slowly getting better. Basically, rather than just get swept away by my thoughts and emotions, I try to use my abdomen and the sensation of breathing as an anchor to my experience of reality. It makes it easier for me to remember that I am not my thoughts and I am not my emotions, these are just some of the many things I, as a consciousness, can see.

What's an easy way to make some runes?

>>39457

>take pen and paper

>draw some runes on paper

>???

>profit

I'm selling an ebook: "How to avoid asking retarded questions", hit me up if you want a copy

Dank new video of a UFO coming out of the moon

Didn't think this was worth a thread so posting it here

"If you imagine anything, if you dream, and if you remember; you are interacting with the astral. The astral is not far away from you and not super inaccessible." (From FAQ)

If we interact while dreaming with Astral Planes. So if I dream the same dream few times, so It's basically I gone to the same Plane?

I remember that it was apocalipse. I was running though the city. Fire caught everything. I ran in one building and opened one tile from the floor, and there was a snake.

And from that moment I don't remember.

Second time it was pretty much the same only, it was opened and when looked down there was still a snake.

So Did I interact with the same Astral Plane twice?

>>39458

I think your confused? I meant rune stones, I wasn't asking how to write down the runic alphabet. I suspect this is an attempt for Loosh.

>>39424

>>39424

Anyone?

>>39478

I find I have very little control over what I do and do not remember…

If I make an intent to throughly enjoy a book before reading it I wont be able to maintain that intent if I dont find myself resonating with the content of said book.

So regardless of your state if the text doesn't intrigue you you probably wont remember it

Anyone have easy way to astral project??

I just read "aibi" while I did find it fascinating and incredibly informative the part referring to the Awareness That Is Aware Of It's Own Existence" really threw me off near the end, can anyone please explain what the author means in this section?

>>39486

>I just read "aibi" while I did find it fascinating and incredibly informative the part referring to the Awareness That Is Aware Of It's Own Existence" really threw me off near the end, can anyone please explain what the author means in this section?

Go read William Walker Atkinson's The Arcane Formulas in order to understand what he's talking about.

>>39406

Of course you can. Listen to / read this book it will help a lot. Also develop your visualization and other abilities and create thoughtforms and you will excel even more in academia.

>>39496

If anyone is in a rush btw just read Chapter 20 in that book then proceed with the reading of other books. The book as a whole is only 135 pages long though.

IS anyone here familiar with treasure mapping?

And if you are could you explain it to me?

I read about it in a book but other sources are really scarce

Can someone give me a run down on power levels in the astral? Why are humans so shit?

How much Iodine is enough? I found this great powdered kelp shit and one teaspoon is 900% to 1000% of my daily needs according to the FDA. Is this enough to decalcify and stay decalcified?

>>39545

oops wrong flag

How can I commit suicide through occult means?

>>39568

Cut the silver cord or Mahasamadi. Choose one.

How do I get into the skype group?

Was Hermes Trismegistus Enoch?

>>39597

skype:?chat&blob=wwX_WBtT7O3NPEo9SBOs8tcgCMKSfVFpjugnTzvaNXRNpwTYlUcOo-IcKW6Ler_touLyVz-TQ22q3LlWyfoRC-MN87jsrcAt968R1lWfEE9DSB44JBovXqZ7RQpm9TlWVSaKgOBt1EBfkBWZDC1aXkMEHR5pbAbJFLGhNwX6tDCQg8K7LbaCfezrMQSRevtxS-2AH0DDk-iSWX6u6oONVewpKYHRilTScDIkT3FOdn99JBWhWpdZnHeh

Paste this into a random chat on Skype and then click on it.

I warn you though Skype is a huge fucking timewaster and you should only ever use it when you intend to arrange some magickal operation over it or something else important and otherwise keep away from it. Also you're liable to be loosh harvested, cursed, etc. while there as others will magickally attack you and have become skilled in it.

>>39485

Yes; eat honey and then begin meditating and stretching your astral body and just walk out.

>>39475

>So if I dream the same dream few times, so It's basically I gone to the same Plane?

Any kind of mental stuff happens on the astral plane although there are subplanes and within each subplane numerous (infinite) realms.

Btw you might want to read Robert Bruce's Psychic Self Defence book in the library it talks about astral snakes.

Just remember that Astral Plane and Mental Plane are synonymous.

I highly recommend you read Life Beyond Death by William Walker Atkinson (writing under the pen-name of Yogi Ramacharaka) to properly understand what the astral is.

>>39447

Just random astral fuckery.

If you want to play le sycnhronicity game formulate a question to the Universal Mind while in trance and then start reading your reality, whether you be awake or in a dream, for the answer. Make sure you have a language of symbols that you understand to look for, it doesn't matter what, and then you just read your reality and you should get the answers.

…you could also just go ask Michael to divine for you. He's good at divination now. Go here for that: >>39384

Also try to develop your astral senses and so on better so you can get clearer and more straightforward messages.

>>38539

I have no routine because I dynamically adjust depending upon ever-changing variables. I just know and feel I can do something at a time and it's the right time for it and I do it. I ultimately end up getting a shitload of things done in this way rather than wasting time artificially forcing something when my mind and body is not ready.

>>39612

seriously?

>>39645

That's the easiest way for me at this moment. What is easiest always depends upon your natural talent and practise and skill. Eventually you can go full 4D and be constantly connected to the astral.

Here do the following (I'm doing it RIGHT NOW).

>eat one spoonful of honey (I already completed this part)

>go lay down now on the floor (about to do this part)

>start some basic number thoughtforming, do 0 to 60 or if you feel you need it 0 to 300

>next do another thoughtform which can be of a number (what I usually use) or a simple geometric shape

>now hold that thoughtform clear and start creating and dissipating other thoughtforms around it at random while rotating the main one, lets say it's a pyramid or a number 8… or if you want to go to a specific realm in the astral go use a sigil or if you want to target a person use a picture of them and rotate the picture or if you got a 3D model of them use that

>keep rotating and throw around some random clouds of astral matter around it, kind of just fogs of colour, preferably indigo colour although if you want you can use other colours but for this purpose just trust me and use indigo as it's going to activate your mind's eye very fast

>as the main thing continues to rotate and you throw energy around it you're supposed to use your emotions to charge it. The emotions you feel will be automatically charged into it as you focus on it but can also be conveyed along belts of astral matter and you also start charging the ether more through a sense of touch/vibration/earthiness than anything else

>you maintain the expectation of seeing more around the thing

>if you do this right it might be extremely fast, practically immediate, that you get random shit appearing to you and sometimes it takes awhile longer

>let the random stuff keep flowing and don't lose the connection

>let it draw you in while also maintaining a healthy dose of awareness of Self unless you wanna take a ride on someone else's consciousness and experience through them

>keep going! Soon you'll be in the astral.

Also if you want to meet me then hold the intention of visiting the guy who made this post on /fringe/ while charging up with your emotions (which are astral energy).

See you in the astral anon (hopefully, it's easy to get distracted and lost kek). Going to go now.

>>39646

can you give me what I should experience?

>>39650

>can you give me what I should experience?

No idea man, it's different stuff all the time, I'm a novelty addict myself and love it.

If you want to do specific things in the astral then you need to use psychomancy and thoughtforms to get productive shit done. If you just want to experience the astral and explore it at random then this will work just fine.

If you want to meet entities near you do a modification of what I told you expect pulse these waves of astral light around in your room like you're using sonar and use your emotions to scan on different frequencies for what's around and you can meet with them while in your body or out of it.

If you want to meet with me and start building a specific astral realm we can start using for /fringe/ operations over & over well just talk to me about it in the astral. Your intention to connect with me and meet me should be enough to bring you into contact with me and my own intention to be receptive and open and not to block you should further strengthen the probability of a successful connection.

Is it night time where you are right now? Hopefully it is, it is here for me, going to go now will respond to any further posts from you later.

>>39651

I mean as is it all in my mind eye or am I going to experience like OBE and begin out of my body

>>39651

It's morning ehre

lol everything about us

is a time capsule

lmfao

How about using a standard deck of cards (52) instead of Tarot?

>>39666

They can essentially be interpreted as the pip cards since they did come from tarot after all. But the page and the knight have been turned into a jack. It could work for some basic divination

fuck

that wasn't a question btw

I had sleep paralysis last night. I hadn't had it for a couple of years and I knew to remain calm until I either went back to sleep or woke up, but then I looked at my arm and realised it was being held up at about a 45 degree angle but there was nothing holding it and then kind of lost it.

I tried as hard as I could to move and make a sound but all I could do was groan weakly. I remember eventually toppling over the bed and landing on the floor. I cant remember anything after that and woke up in my bed so it may have been my astral body that fell on the floor.

Why was my arm up in the air?

>>39506

Hello, Ophiel-bro. Info is scarce because he himself took it from theosophists supposedly, and those bastards don't like to share.

The principle is simple:

-have an assortment of things you want to have, experience, be etc. "cut out" on a sheet of paper (to have a physical representation of it, to ease up use of imagination. Just as easy to do without, if you don't forget them)

-frequently use reality creation to see yourself as possessing them.

It's nothing outlandish.

>>39613

>Life Beyond Death

I found Robert Bruce's Psychic Self Defence book. But I didn't find it Life Beyond Death. Could you share it?

Btw. Thanks for your anwser.

>>39666

You can use whatever the hell you want, but the symbols need to have an interpretation. Tarot is easier to use since it has a wide range of explanations with the different cards and it already has enough systems/spreads created for you to be able to learn to use it.

>>39707

Thanks.

>>39705

Oh, that simple?

Thought there could be something more to it.

Have you had any experience with it?

I'm trying to make a personal variation of this method and reports from people who used it would be much appreciated.

(Excluding unity christian church members and LOA affictionates of course)

Do any of you wizards follow specific morals when it comes to doing magic? Like avoiding anything that injures/kills someone else?

Also what is the limit of your abilities? Like if you're making something appear how crazy can it be?

>>39714

>Do any of you wizards follow specific morals when it comes to doing magic? Like avoiding anything that injures/kills someone else?

You'll find that /fringe/ has a pretty diverse set of beliefs. Some people are morally sound and don't use magic to hurt people while others sometimes band to curse someone.

>Also what is the limit of your abilities? Like if you're making something appear how crazy can it be?

If you mean reality manifestation that highly varies but I don't think anyone really pushes themselves here past their current needs and desires except that one time people were spreading the poltergeist creation guide to create an entity to fuck with its creator by throwing objects around and other such silliness.

>>39714

Everything that hurts me in any way is immoral and bad.

Everything that makes me less perfect is immoral and bad.

>>39721

You mantra is not fully wise.

>>39724

Consider the following and its place in the context of your life.

Millions of years ago humans lived for up too 100,000 of years. Then was born ones who thought to themselves "These gift giving trees are MINE and exist for my purposes."

blah blah blah we degenerate as a race over millions of years

Now people live at most 100 years and life expectancy is getting lower. It is because of the environment which has ACCUMULATED ill stuff from previous and current generation.

Now, one who taking stock of his compartively short lifespan were to ask "How can I live for 100,000 years in this very age?" A wise man might say "Fool! Do not do what is not of the age and the now. Do that thing which is wise in the age. Strive not to live for longer than is the providence of your body. For the world is a sea of contamination and this is a mortal plane. Seek to make best of your time as it exists. Extending one's time directly is not best use of one's time. I tell you truthfully."

Your hair loss is inevitable unless you can magick it back. I tell you truthfully that the world is a sea of contamination and as long as you hold on to the object of desire which is vibration "I want…" the spring which vibrates "I need…" will not spring up from your soul and nourish the tree of life which is yourself that it might bear fruit.

Basically, deal with it. Turn your eyes on those heuristics which you've been creating and cataloging since before you were born and contemplate why one would seek to go back into childhood rather than making their home in truth of the present. Then, deconstruct, renounce, and let fade those things which do not contribute to your present happiness.

This is complete wisdom I relay to those with brains to perceive and the willingness to understand.

>>39711

I read about the method a month ago, but figured out something similar for myself before. I didn't have the need for grand use before, so long term results are pending.

I'm breaking it down in 2 parts - making and invoking a godform that has all the virtues, powers, capabilities etc. I want and, second, creating the environment in the material plane with the things and people I want. The first is pretty self explanatory, the second you just do it like Goddard did, living in all things.

I feel like the big treasure map type of creative visualization is, I dunno, clunky? Feels more natural to use CV for smaller things as the need arises or just to simply put yourself at the center of all power (wealth, joy, knowledge etc.) and then just see what happens, but that's just me.

>>39723

Do tell why you don't agree with it.

Especially

>Everything that makes me less perfect is immoral and bad.

This seems based as fark.

Can a based wizard supply noob with basic astral projection/astral plane guide/what the see and expect/the experience?

>>39728

>Everything that makes me less perfect is immoral and bad.

The truth is: you're not perfect.

Therefore, the truth is immoral and bad.

Words are very powerful, be careful with what you say specially if you already started walking the path.

>>39738

Poorly reasoned and foolish.

>>39728

>Do tell why you don't agree with it.

I don't have the energy to do that.

>Especially

>Everything that makes me less perfect is immoral and bad.

>This seems based as fark.

I will explain the deficiency in that mantra for you and all who hear.

Perfection cannot decrease. It is true that perfection progresses perfectly. Therefore, that which can be decreased following increases is not perfect. That which is subject to decreasing following its own increasing is imperfect.

With those truths in mind, renounce and allow to secede that mantra which is based on untruth, made of untruth, and bears fruit of untruth.

Hear, listen, and understand.

>>39659

In your mind's eye? The fuck do you mean by this? You perceive all of the astral through your mind's eye and depending upon how you use the astral you can remote view any part of this world in the present or the past or its probable futures or you can go to places far removed from the scenes of Earth.

If you want a typical OBE then just project your astral body nearby your physical body.

If you just want out of your body period and don't care where you're going there's lots of places you can end up besides nearby your body.

Fred should make an option. Where you can delete every post you ever made.

>>39753

With one click. Like a red terminate button.

>>39753

>>39754

lol there's an option to turn off the ability of users to delete their posts and the post deletion thing is mostly there for if you fuck up and need to fix you spelling mistake. People like you are the strongest argument in favour of just disabling the post deletion option because you've gone full autist about deleting your posts.

>>39727

Oh you're that guy again who talks all weird.

>>39764

What kind of person might you say I am?

>>39765

One that things he's got it all figured out and talks all retarded and is full of himself and needs to keep developing but probably thinks he has nowhere to go from where he is right now.

>>39766

You are not wholly wrong. You are not wholly right. I tell you this truthfully.

>>39773

Oh my goodness stahp talking like this. You aren't an arbiter of truth, you're working within a fuzzy and incomplete modality, therefore you can still be a vector for misinformation unintentionally or otherwise. No need to insist you're telling things "truthfully".

>>39778

>stahp

Fuck you

>>39545

Pls answer is 1 milligram a day enough to decalcify and stay decalcified?

>>39782

More is better. Japaneseses get like up to 13 milligrams a day because they eat made sea vegetables which are iodine rich.

To one wishing to use their own energy to guide their actions I would advise they look up the symptoms of iodine toxicity, eat as much seaweed as they like and avoiding amounts which bring on those symptoms, and use that as their amount.

>>39778

Hypocrite! If I am to be silent for possibly being a vector for misinformation unintentionally and/or intentionally then you too should be SILENT. I am elder to you.

Jews have great ideologies, too bad they're jews.

>>39787

Fuck you bitch stop taking like that you sound like a fucking fedora.

>>39732

The only thing for sure you will experience is your senses all much deeper than normal. Everything will be more clear, vibrant, beautiful, etc. Black will be extremely black, white will be incredibly white, the feel of a breeze in the astral will be so much more real than one in this world. Everything will have greater depth and feel more real than in the physical plane which will seem insubstantial to it in comparison.

Besides that the rest varies. You could end up in some demon-infested shithole, you could go on random adventures, you could wander around some buildings, tons of things can happen and you never really know what to expect.

Now, if you go to a specific place in the astral such as Veelox which was a place several astral projectors made then there's more specific stuff for you to see and do there. Don't go to Veelox though it was abandoned after awhile and although one wizard cleansed the place of demons for fun sometime ago it's probably all infested again now.

>>39779

You're not the guy I replied to, the guy I replied to never gets mad like this, he's one of those guys that at least pretends never to be rustled all the time. A brownpilled sort of guy.

>>39782

Drinking distilled water will pull calcium out of all of your body not even just your pineal gland apparently.

>>39787

>Hypocrite! If I am to be silent for possibly being a vector for misinformation unintentionally and/or intentionally then you too should be SILENT. I am elder to you.

Faggot! I am not a "hypocrite" because I make no claims of speaking the truth all the time. It is YOU who constantly says "truthfully I say"!

You don't have to be silent just stahp saying that you are speaking truth all the time when you can be a vector for misinformation unintentionally and/or intentionally.

Also wtf do you even mean by "elder to me"?

>>39823

The implication of your words, that I should be silent because… implies that you need not be silent because the opposite is true. I believe the opposite is not true. Thus you are, in my eyes, a liar and a hypocrite.

>>39824

No you faggot you just need to stahp adding on "truthfully I say" or "I tell you this truthfully" not stop talking altogether. Get over your faulty perception now or be forever an hueg fgt.

Your reasoning here is fallacious and polarized when it should not be.

When I talk I do not keep adding on that I am "speaking the truth" as if the truthfulness of what I was saying was somehow in doubt in some manner and that this needed to be addressed. It is under only very rare circumstances that I ever find the need to assert that what I have said is in fact true; circumstances where there is doubt and I want to be believed.

You're stuck in this weird habit of always declaring everything you say truthful even when it makes no sense to do so.

Why can't your autismal mind understand this?

Does anyone have a PDF of the magickal use of thoughtforms? I need it but cant find it.

>>39833

What exactly are you trying to do?

The standard hypnosis texts you will find are really mundane and they do not understand what is going on.

If you read the books suggested in the library especially Mental Influence, Mind Power, etc. by William Walker Atkinson you'll have a far better technique to work by.

I can hypnotize you easily, I know how it's done both in the clinical mundane way and the occult way, and there are no limits but whatever conscious resistance you put up to my command.

Hypnosis and magick in general requires the use of emotions btw to work so… you're pretty fucked.

There are many potential ways to reactivate your emotions from changes with diet, to extreme exercise, to void meditation, to giving yourself an electrical shock via extreme body energy manipulation, to recovering traumatic or emotionally charged memories, to banishing entities that are depriving you of all your loosh, etc.

>>39838

If you want a copy ask someone to finish converting it in this thread here: >>31562

>>39827

I look down at you.

Also can anyone (insert color here)pill me on fourth/fifth way? Where can I learn more about it? Google has yeilded little

>>39860

I look down at you.

>>39860

You look down on everyone, you're always on a high pedestal talking down to us, but you can't even do shit. Do you even read the books or practise anything? Lets hear about that and not just your wishy washy wise guy ramblings?

>>39896

Your metric is criticism-worthy.

>Lets hear about that and not just your wishy washy wise guy ramblings?

I am inclined to not oblige.

>>39908

Then I have no reason to take you seriously at all. It is evident you have no powers.

>>39912

Why are you narrating your thoughts?

>>39913

Today I wasn't able to get shit done in my garden and I'm trying to relax as my healing ritual continues to take effect and cleanse parts of my body and I wait for it to reach a perfect condition.

Problem?

>>39915

Do you want to be my friend?

>>39925

Are you white?

>>39929

I was in a past life.

>>39931

What made you regress?

>>39936

lol. Regression is not how one who is wise describes a white person being reborn as a non-white person.

>>39938

I smell fear. And insecurity. You're dripping it from every one of your pores. I can SMELL you across the entire ether.

>>39940

You sure are trying hard to pretend like you are anything but insexure.

>>39941

That's weird because all you should be able to smell is honey.

From you all I smell is butthurt.

>>39944

>all you should be able to smell is honey.

Pause.

>>39945

Cause. Reasons. Dummy.

>>39952

Pause what? Stop sperging.

>>39954

Will you post a pic of yourself, Smiley?

>>39962

Smiley's pictures are found in the shitposting thread and in one thread about 4chon members on /4chon/.

>>39962

"Will you please post a pic so I can perform magick upon you"

No. I do not trust you to do magickal operations that I would like to have done on me.

>>39962

>implying I a Smiley

>>39970

Stop gaslighting Smiley.

>>39970

>>39972

Smiley are too distinct a presence for such a lie to be not-pathetic.

>>39970

>>39976

Samefag.

>>39979

Wrong.

>>39979

Smiley I said stop it.

>>39981

>implying

>>39982

wtf I'm not smiley

and what am I supposed to stop? Calling you on your samefagging?

Is manipulating girls into loving you and sucking & fucking a method of gaining loosh? Could clout be synonymous with loosh? How could you use loosh for spiritual advancement and or power?

>>40018

>wanting to engage in sodomy with a girl ("sucking")

eewwww

>>40018

You could end up in a situation where a person is fugging you but dispassionately.

You need to cultivate the strongest emotions in the other person you can.

You can use loosh to power up thoughtforms and do all forms of magick so obviously it's essential to spiritual advancement and the attainments of power.

>>40021

Say the friends of this girl do not want her hanging out with me because they say all I want is sex, would fucking her then gain me even more loosh from said friends? Is the actual process of gaining loosh as simple as breathing it in?

>>40025

Loosh can be acquired from food and also from any emotions directed your way.

The more raw and unprogrammed the loosh is the easier it is to use but some people are very capable of entering trances and channeling all their loosh energy into thoughtforms that will fuck your shit up.

You don't have to breath in loosh, you can absorb it through your astral body automatically.

If you want to understand more pay attention to what William Walker Atkinson is saying about thoughtwaves, currents, etc. in Mind Power: The Secret of Mental Magic.

>>40038

In the same way that taking antibiotics weakens your immune system yes. Temporary boost to functioning at the cost of dependency and not being able to achieve those states without the drug.

>>39891

Bump

I have another query, one that may be of urgency. While cleansing my aura and chakras I got an odd sensation in my chestt to the left of my heart. I've had a pain here on and off for years now. When I got to my heart chakra the feeling was quite odd. Like something there was nervous. I'm fairly sure there is a being there and it's been feeding off of me. How do I get rid of it? It has been causing issues for a while now (such as an erratic heartbeat while meditating for no reason and some anger throughout the day) and I'd like to get rid of it now. It seems quite upset about my recenattempt at cleansing. I have bad asthma and have since childhood if that helps identify it.

I have my chakra closed for now.

is weed better than acid for the mindset?

>>40068

>relying on drugs to alter mindset instead of using your unshakable will to mend your mind however you like it

Addicts should either make their respective renunciation thread or leave.

I sure hope you didn't come here for validation of your bad habits.

>>40041

That's a good analogy!

>>40068

No, weed and acid are different things. They work on different spiritual pathways which are synergistic but do not overlap. Weed high is thus. Acid high is thus. Weed and acid high is greater than the sum of the parts. Its apples and oranges.

I'm going to make a story about how words lose their meaning over use, and how they gain power when actively avoided (taboos), both on the individual level and the societal level, often because of the efforts of organized movements, which may or may not be misguided. I'm asking /fringe/ for input, because: a) I have a natural inclination towards magic, which includes processing thought in esoteric language and concepts (both verbal and visual), and b) the story is about magic in both inner meaning, and in surface imagery. I need to think of at least one central icon (trope) at first, and ultimately several, that would best convey a conflict or conflicts relating to word trickery like this. The story and thus choice of icons have to fit in a medieval fantasy setting which includes several factions, and some kind of fantasy version of magic. Maybe someone here happens to know a fitting image on the top of their head, or an appropriately similar story perhaps.

>>40113

There's the thing about kikes not saying the name of god (YHVH). So even in english they always say "G-d" or "Lord" or something to this effect.

>>40120

What is "G-d"?

>>40126

God without the "o".

>>40127

But why?

>>40138

So that the name of their god is not defaced.

I always see people saying thing about "Next blood moon", " wait for next October" , "Le meme egregore"

can you greenpill/educate me on this topic?

>>40151

Ignore prophecies. None have ever come true.

>>40153

I didn't know it was even a prophecy

I just heard some people babbling about it

>>40156

supposedly Jade Helm is preperation for a military coup of America and the next blood moon will be when it begins and when the NWO enters its final phase of take over

egregores are real

>>40151

Basically, stupid people think that the fourth blood moon (there have been 4 blood moons in 2 years) will mark the beginning of some great or minor HAPPENING.

>>40153

Being true and coming to pass is what makes a prophecy a prophecy, mortal. You sound ignorant through your action of calling somethings untrue and which did not and will not come to pass prophecy.

About body of light astral travelling

can the body of light recive it's own mind and fuck off and go somewhere else you don't want it to go?

any in depth article/book about it and not just "HURRR DO THIS IMAGINE THIS"~Crowley.

like some warning and what not

How do I improve my cognitive performance/intelligence through meditation?

>>40222

By fucking meditating man. Do different meditations for visualization, memory, subconscious processing, character enhancement, etc. they're all listed in the meditations superthread and if they're not make a request in there and you shall receive.

>>40126

It's how jews say God.

>>40230

Yeah I have read through that thread. I understand that the numbers meditation helps with computing and I've done the memory/walking meditation which does in fact allow crazy visual memory but I mean just becoming smarter in general altogether. Any meditation for that?

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Planning to start reading Goddard as part of my exploration into the New Thought movement.

Can anyone point tme to his best books?

>>40261

Why would you bother to read his books?

>>40276

What do you mean by that?

Shoud I focus on his lectures instead?

how legit is robert bruce? as i cant find a way to pirate this audio companion to MAP http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Astral-Projection-CD-Companion/dp/0738710792/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429575250&sr=8-1&keywords=mastering+astral+projection+audio

>>40288

Is this you? https://boards.4chan.org/x/thread/16161876/how-is-robert-bruce-he-is-apparently-a-pro-when

>>40288

I'm ready through his books right now, about half way through Psychic Self-Defence as we speak.

He seems to be heavy on empirical evidence is finding weird shit regarding EMFs and neg entities and running water and ink circles and violet and so on.

How it's all connected I don't know.

I like a lot of my other books better.

>>40283

Oh sorry you're talking about Neville Goddard.

The New Thought movement is extremely diverse and Neville's stuff is very different from various of other New Thought authors.

No his lectures aren't important, I'd just read the books.

>>39612

>>39646

Greenpill me on honey, when I eat one spoonful of honey do I just swallow it whole or sip it?

I ate 2 spoons of honey and have a very slight headache for some reason.

Does this have anything to do with my fluoride filled decalcified pineal gland?

Niggaroids /fringe/

da fuck

I mean srsly people say shit bout Christianity/Judo

but I see none about muslims, are they in same group

what about the shit going down in October??

>>40292

yes its me as i cannot fucking find what i linked to pirate it as i dont want to pay for it

>>40351

What's it good for then?

Why is this recommended before Astral Projecting?

What are some good Occult/Fringe /tg/ games or board games?

What is the Astral Plane?

Is it real?

Is there any proof for it?

Is it deep/outer space?

>>40365

Also, why is Robert Bruce important to the astral plane and the occult?

>>40366

same i keep hearing his name popping up when it comes to astral projection

This one goes out to those with knowledge of eastern traditions.

When reincarnating, is it possible to jump timelines and end up on a different earth from the one you'd left? This came to mind due to details of early childhood memory stories of reincarnation being precise up to a point where they wildly deviate from the established history.

>>40173

I can't direct you to a book but I remember someone posting here that while you're awake your astral body fucks off somewhere and interacts with the astral on its own. It is thus worth learning to control it so that it does some specific tasks that you want it to while not being in direct control of it.

>>40364

Not that anyone here plays /tg/ games but the W40k universe with its wide range of psykers and a white Imperium of Man is a desired world of /fringe/.

>>40365

A plane you enter after your death but through practice you can enter it without dying first.

About as real as your mind.

None that I could show you, it's best you try to experience it on your own.

Robert Bruce is often mentioned along side the astral due to his excellent guide to enter the astral.

>>40370

I doubt it, I think you always reincarnate further down the time since you've developed yourself spiritually in this life and living in the past would teach you little and bring little ennoblement of character.

Then again they say time is an illusion so I'd like to hear someone else share their knowledge on this.

>>40386

that may be possible, in fact you may be reborn not on this planet at all but in another galaxy altogether, no way to know for sure

>>40407

I believe the quote in your picture is the exact opposite of reality. It's easy to find men in this age who will endure infinite suffering but who will never give into death for fear of dying.

>>40411

What do you think a tortured person would do?

You're being tortured for months, you have the choice to endure the torture for indefinite time, maybe for decades, or to die now.

What would you do?

What would a normie do?

Die.

>>40407

Neville Goddard had a very similar experience . He talked about it in one of his lectures (they're on YouTube )

I forgot the link, but u should read law & promise. Also mental diets and pruning shears of revision

>tfw just added a whole bunch of books to my library but I'm anxious to just be finished with books and begin muh ascent in earnest

>tfw it's still May and I still have tons of gardening to do

>tfw incredibly tired

>>40415

I was tortured not for months but for years and I lived because I was too afraid to kill myself.

>>40321

Do not consume any other sources of sugar than honey except maybe you can eat one or two fruits a day.

Time it so that your brain gets the optimal amount of sugar and you don't just stress your body with muh insulin response all day and night.

If you do this correctly you will experience positive results but if you overload on sugar you're going to suffer.

>>40422

>>40422

Did u ever read illuminatus trilogy sniley?

I did and got mindficked pretty hard.it Also mademe want to read like 20 more books though

>>40431

RAW is a saint

my art improved a fuckton after reading his books

I've finished reading the Kybalion, what books should I read, and in what order?

>>40441

Prometheus Rising first.

>>40440

You should read The Arcane Teachings right after The Kybalion.

http://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html

>>40440

Yeah nah, Wilson is CIA shit and you can read it after you've grounded yourself in actually good books. The FAQ even has a listed order, man. Arcane Teachings and Arcane Formulas

>>40461

CIA? WHAT THE FUCK?

prometheus rising is good, the others i don't know

okay im just wondering what you guys think of this site:

www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satanic_Meditation.html

i saw this site once before /fringe/ and i thought it was some satan cult stuff but someone here said that satan was the true creator or something like that. i havent red much into that but in just wondring if the teachings on there are accurate and dont sell my soul or someting okay thanks.

>>40463

>prometheus rising

>good

How new are you?

How do I fucking stop diverting my attention away from occult books?

I have an awful video game addiction and I am always thinking about reading the books but always divert my attention elsewhere on my computer

>>40484

why isn't it good in your opinion?

it explains how your brain works

even if you are a wizard, you're confined to a biological body

>>40483

look into Order of the Nine Angles

if you wanna be edgy, do it right

>>40492

>looking into the now defunct feminist edgelord organization that was abandoned by its creator who then joined Islam and then renounced Islam later and became a standard secular bluepill

Terrible.

>>40538

They are mindfucking you, although I can't distinguish the intent.

>>40540

THIS!

>>40538

significance = recruiting you to cult

>>40528

What do you recommend than?

>>40554

Just being an >>>/edgy/ lord and reading the books in the library and using the knowledge towards sinister ends.

>>40483

Every piece of Magickal Knowledge that Joy of Satan has is from Franz Bardon btw.

>>40490

>>40490

Help

Robert Bruce is so fucking annoying and boring holy shit on page 91 of 163 of Psychic Self-Defence and just want to stop reading the book.

This is going to be a real pain to get through.

>>40569

Through mastery of desire and start doing one-pointedness meditation and now apply it to your reading. Eventually you will have trouble with stopping to eat and sleep and will just desire only to read your books to completion.

>>40396

>>40395

Thanks.

Yesterday I ate that "pure honey" right?

And I had a mild headache after that, didn't even like swallowing it.

Then I also had another "Manuka Honey" and I tried that one today, had that slight burn and no headache at all. Tasted pretty good and definitely better than that other golden "pure honey" from China.

>>40441

This is a good side book to read, it'll take a while to get through it so read it alongside other stuff. It's fun and there's occult gems in there, some obvious ones and some timebombs.

Pimping my mega, it's got 300~gb of material and will be up for another month, download while you can. If you want to buy a voucher to keep it up longer info on how is in the A8) folder

https://mega.co.nz/#F!C5wQ1JqZ!ics3BJ1RrVWtCOpA1XZyqw

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=Remote+Viewing+Stocks

If you guys are NEET and want mad shekels learn to do this shit then get about $1,000 dollars somehow and invest it all.

All I'm going to say it is works, it's fool-proof, and you can learn it easily right now and start testing yourself to see how good you are at it.

Also that Psychomancy book in the library along with Mind Power will help you too.

Does giving LSD fractal entities loosh even work? One taught me something and it deserves a reward.

>>40640

Use ixquick instead of Duck Duck Go.

Much more secure.

Why is the dead freedomboard link still in the announcements

>>40647

ur mom

How to decalcify pineal gland?

Is there a guide you guys have?

Will I be able to visualise more vividly when the pineal gland is decalcified?

if you believe your pineal gland is calcified, it will stay calcified

the universe is mental

>>39891

Another bump

>>40670

I think the stellar man is the best book on the subject but I haven't read it. Its probably in the sticky.

>>40670

Why not just read books from the authors? Supposedly the fifth way is the complete system of the fourth way, where it's goal, as another anon mentioned, spiritual advancement, egohood without magic, like most of /fringe/ is doing.

Boris Mouravieff books are in >>40594 under montalk recommended reading > Esoteric.

>>40674

nigga i do magick only to get money and fuck bitches

How to become demonic/vampiric?

I'm an edgy fuck, might as well go all in.

>>40640

In relation to this:

How do you learn remote viewing? Any books or worthwhile material? Smiley has previously mentioned Atkinson's Psychomancy book in relation to this, but I'd like some other suggestions as well.

I've tried just practical exercises trying to "see" what the next card I shuffle from my taro deck might be, but so far I've had negligible success.

>>40678

Be sure to passively drain the energy of everyone around you to get dat vampiric loosh.

>>40640

Jesus said "The best thing to do with money is to give it to someone who won't give it back."

>>40699

>Jesus said "The best thing to do with money is to give it to someone who won't give it back."

Sounds like a jew plot to fleece the goyim.

you're not an adept

I'm beginning work on sigils. In order to charge and fire off sigils most sources tell me i need to destroy it. I'm looking to create a protection sigil to give to someone, so i dont want to destroy it.

Would the best course of action be to -create, charge and fire off the sigil, then re-draw it on something like a rock or wood to give to the person?

Assuming I just came out of being an ordinary bluepill, are there any specific physical things I should pursue/accomplish before I start getting into somewhat serious magicks?

Is there anything else to the Kybalion other than the Law Of Attraction? If i want, for example, a new drumset so i just think about drums drums drums drums and somehow i will get them? Not that i'm not searching in the physical world, but i have some money issues.

>>40705

Well if you are serious about it then you should probably go on a good diet (there's an active thread) and start working out. Being outdoors is good for you, i can say for sure. Some more good habits include cold water showering, getting a water filter, but i don't think thats very crucial or overly important.

>>40718

Well I've been reading things about decalcifying pineal glands and such, and wonderimg how important that was and if there was anything else in tht degree of things I should do.

Okay /fringe/ this has been bugging me for quite some time so I want to know whether or not my theory could be considered correct.

I don't mean to come across as an edgy fuckwad or anything, but theoretically is it possible that Lovecraft's Old Ones do exist because of him? I've been thinking about egregores and godforms lately and I realised that there genuinely are cults out there who worship Lovecraft gods like the Cult of Cthulhu. Coupled with the fact that Lovecraft's been said to of based the Old Ones off of hallucinations (see: astral visions) he had as a child it just makes me think that there might actually be these gods out there now.

>>40727

Yes.

The universe is mental.

There is no laws on magick except for what is stated in the Kybalion.

If you can imagine it, than it is real.

>>40729

What if I imagine that magick isn't real?

>>40731

Anon didnt mean it like that. You can't imagine away the earth because you're not The All as much as you can't imagine away magick, I believe he was just saying that because there are no rules on magick, what I suggested might hold some ground.

Then again, maybe I'm wrong and it is entirely possible to imagine away magick.

>>40732

Oh fuck, actually now that I think about it, you probably can. It'd explain why fedoras seem to have very little magickal experiences compared to the average neophyte.

>>40732

>>40734

What if the entire world has been imagining magick away for centuries and their will overrides most of you attempts to progress? Perhaps you're trapped on an imagined reality where magick isn't real, but the reality itself is a product of magick.

>>40738

Actually It could be.

What should I do about the constant violations of rule 2 that are ruining /fringe/'s quality and the general uncontrolled shitposting of new threads that are utter garbage?

Awhile ago I decided I'd just ban them (they are 10 minute bans) and people would hopefully see all these ban messages and learn but it's not working.

I'm thinking maybe covertly sage them then bump a whole bunch of threads over them.

…or go back to the original method of handling them; just locking or deleting them all.

Also where the fuck are my janitors at? I swear I don't have a single active janitor.

I think a lot of people are disappointed with how /fringe/ has been ever since it got onto the top 25 boards and shitloads of newfigs that can't be fucked to read the stickies and rules started taking massive shits all over the place constantly.

I don't want to censor anyone at all but I need to devise some way to enforce compliance here.

Maybe I could just delete the threads and then repost their questions into the questions thread for them? Then their free-speech isn't violated at all, I basically just moved their shit for them.

>>40776

I'd think the best coarse of action for not obvious shitposts would be to move them to the questions thread though this does require more work on the janitor's part.

Obvious shitposts should be auto saged but not covertly.

>>40777

All auto-saging is covert as far as I know. So that was a redundant statement for me to make.

>them trips

Can you please take a look at the first 5 pages of /fringe/ and tell me which threads you feel need moderator intervention and what you'd do for each given one? (lock, sage, delete, whatever)

>>40776

I'm willing to be a janitor.

I'll do it for free. :^)

I'm on 8chan all the time. It would be easy for me to come here every 5 minutes and clean up newfigs.

/fringe/ how do I deal with a spider mechanism. I barely scaped it's attack. I can't exactly describe this, but he is inside my tv or in an stral plane part of it. I calmed my soul and did some mediation.

What the fuck do I do in case some of those things reappear???

It this mechanism benign?

Help please, I am a complete neophyte new to the secret arts.

Ex Uno disce Omnes

>>40790

IS*** this mechanism benign

Typo typo

>>40776

You really suck at choosing janitors.

>>40776

Do we really still need that roleplay faggotry thread up?

I am the anon who has "advertised" Fourth/Fifth Way here before.

>>40673

The Stellar Man, while not strictly "Gurdjieffian", is definitely a recommended read for anyone interested in this paradigm. It touches upon many important subjects and concepts that Fourth/Fifth Way works elaborates on. I recommend it because it is good and very empowering work.

Perhaps this selection of literature is beneficial?

>The Stellar Man by John Baines

>In Search of the Miraculous by P. D. Ouspensky

>Gnosis I/II/III by Boris Mouravieff

And if you want more;

>Views from the Real World

>The Fourth Way

>. . . and other letters/meetings books, check out PDFs, most of the works are in PDF form!!

I wouldn't bother with Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson, it's all obfuscated mambo-jumbo and the content of that book can be found in better understandable works. But that is my opinion.

>>40674

Yes, the system is very non-magical but highly practical. The goal is indeed to achieve permanent egohood, that is, a permanent state of high consciousness subject to the "Superior I". In John Baines' terminology, you become a Stellar Man, or in 4/5th Way terminology, a Seventh Man, (the highest possible stage of human conscious evolution).

I prefer Fifth Way because it is a lot more comprehensive and factual than Fourth Way. I disagree with Gurdjieff's doctrine that we need to grow souls from the start along with etheric/astral/mental bodies, because we've reincarnated plenty of times to have grown and developed these faculties so there is no need to grow them again - what we need to do is to stimulate them and awaken them.

>>40805

Thank you

>>40776

Why is there no fifth way flag? Also, I thought smiley was the board owner

>>40776

>Maybe I could just delete the threads and then repost their questions into the questions thread for them? Then their free-speech isn't violated at all, I basically just moved their shit for them

I like this idea

>>40776

>>Maybe I could just delete the threads and then repost their questions into the questions thread for them? Then their free-speech isn't violated at all, I basically just moved their shit for them

Good idea. Do it.

>>40776

>>40776

>>Maybe I could just delete the threads and then repost their questions into the questions thread for them? Then their free-speech isn't violated at all, I basically just moved their shit for them

Good idea. Do it.

>>40700

To you.

What does it mean when the Kybalion says "To the pure, all things are pure; to the base, all things are base." ?

I just watched some 2 hour documentary on how badly the goverments (or Jews if you like) are influencing our civilization. What's their ultimate goal? I mean, i don't see how they want to get richer and richer because they already own so much money they don't need more.

>>40870

It's all about the loosh.

>>40873

If i understood correctly, loosh can be used to power thoughtforms, egregores and the like?

>>40863

Reality is a mirror, the base are blind to the pure and the pure see the purity in the base.

>>40874

>can be used

Not just "can be used" but is absolutely essential to powering them.

>>40807

Post a 16x16 fifth way flag if you want it added.

>>40899

>>40900

>>40905

Can you make a set of these that are more visible against the background of posts on /fringe/?

I can try :)

>>40795

Raw and Organic Honey is preferable to one who knows the virtue of honey and seeks to bring into practice the consumption of that honey which is most virtuous.

>>40863

To one who has made himself thus-pure, the path from baseness-to-purity is revealed and thus all things are seen in degrees of "pure" and "purity-in-potential" and one sees the inherent purity in the infinite paths infinite people travel to that self-similar destination.

To the base, to the liars, etc. they can see NAUGHT which is not base, deceptive, etc. They have no basis for understanding something which is unlike themselves.

"Know yourself and know the universe."

None can understand, truly, that which transcends the amount to which they have understood their life.

>>40870

I have a theory about that. Probably they're using the massive loosh they got to create an extremely powerful sentient thoughtform (their false messiah/antichrist thingy)

I suppose true sobriety is contentment with your own existence. i.e. being purely self reliant in gaining happiness and pleasure rather than needing material sustenance.

Modern living is literally cancerous.

fucking 8chan is borked I have to double click a post to reply to it now?

>>40953 see >>40960

How to improve visualization?

I want to visualize very vividly.

Would very much like it megad or rared if you felt like it.

>>40965

through regular practice with occasional increases in complexity

>>40959

Yes, I'll put it on my mega under friends of fringe if you want, is there a name you want associated with it?

Any name would work fine. Appreciate it.

>>40977

upload it to mega so I can mirror it

>>40959

>Trolling and Flaming - "No life accusations"

Judging by the number of essays you wrote about irrelevant subjects, I'd say those accusations are founded in reality.

>>40889

Where do I get loosh? Don't get me wrong, i want to know about doing magic but i'm not used to reading books. It's just too much bullshit without getting to the point.

What are the limits of astral projection? Can I visit places like chernobyl and haunted houses? Currently doing the 90 day course, looking to see some results soon.

>>40989

Magic is based on lifetimes of reading my friend, loosh is recieved when you cause anyone to feel an emotion. Loosh is given when someone causes you to feel an emotion. Become proficcient with auras, they'll help stop loosh leaks.

>>40960

Is it to be sober to know that satisfaction is achieved within with your own hands, and your own work and not in the hands and work of others?

To find satisfaction where ever life may take you because it is your will that ultimately allows you to feel and know that satisfaction?

An example from my past: it is not sober to feel heart broken and smoke away all the pain and emotion

But it is sober to know my past, and to know myself, and know my work which brings me satisfaction on my own accord and to seek to and see through my works to fruition?

I pray for understanding by the immortal. I have no desire to spend eternity with the darkness.

But in the back of my mind I fear that this society is built around trapping every last soul from ever reaching immortality. Despite all efforts I fear that this system is the doom of us all. Which is why I work so hard and why I ask if what I might be doing will be fruitless.

So who set up this "Charlie charlie challenge?"

Some smart loosh farmer?

It's going all around twitter and the world and everyone is dumping their loosh on it, someone give me some insight.

>>41003

So controlling emotions (feeling nothing) is containing and keeping your loosh? Is that why people who don't have sex until 30 are considered wizards?

Try the ones that I posted in white idk if they look good but i guess they would look good :)

>>41043

>be me

>be super rich

>also mega wizard in the astral

>top 10 aesthetics

>>41045

Well not that broad of a topic, but more of outlining a specific timeline opposed to fuck bitches make money.

>>41047

>>41043

>>41045

If it was that simple all those internet badasses would become ubermen IRL and all those tumblr landwhales yelling "I'm beautiful" all day would shape into goddess.

Magick isn't just stating something, although words are a powerful component. You need to manifest your will.

>>41069

good answer, thanks lad

What plants are recommended for filtering the air, providing oxygen, and providing general ambiance for practicing magick.

Bonus points if they do not require much sunlight to thrive.

>>41081

For my answer send me loosh!

Think of my post and send me as much as your emotion as you can!

>>41084

Uhhhhh…….consider yourself thoroughly looshed!

Can anyone explain any of the occurences in this thread? https://www.8ch.net/k/res/139800.html

You're not going to be spoonfed here.

>>41081

one time I was doing some meditation/rituals for lols and felt what I later found out to be astral projection symptoms such as increased heartbeat, intense heat and what I thought back then were hallucinations.

Science couldn't quite explain my experience but I've found that meditation has a direct effect on brain waves and started seriously researching the occult. Shortly after I did some other experiments that completely solidified my belief in the power of the mind.

>>41098

too many for me to read though but I can only make educated guesses from greentext stories.

it can be a whole range of things from satanic sex cults to aliens manifesting in woods to do their rituals.

>>41143

My guess is that you're pretty sad like most of people coming here that aren't satisfied with their life and seek enlightenment.

And now for my question: If the universe really does react to our thoughts, then how do i make it react even more drastically? I've noticed if i change my thoughts to be more positive, i get a similar response from the outside world (feel better, do things better, etc.). How do i get to the wacky level when whatever i think of, happens? I mean is it just having a ton of loosh and directing them to your thoughts/thoughtforms or something else?

>>41144

>How do i get to the wacky level when whatever i think of, happens? I mean is it just having a ton of loosh and directing them to your thoughts/thoughtforms or something else?

Tune yourself to the world and try not to lose your mind.

>>41145

You didn't answer my question

>>41146

Ignore him he's a roleplayer. I'm a neophyte but if you haven't watched it already - this should open your mind to the possibilities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9oAmO7tCPQ&list=PL4M--cHh5qOg71_-UDzsdtw0vU1lV-T5q

While attempting to astral project, I began feeling a significant pressure in the center of my forehead. It felt like someone was drilling through my skull, I'm fairly sure this was my third eye trying to open, how do I open it? The feeling ended up going away after a while.

>>41153

Wut.

When you're sync'd up to the world you'll get thoughts about things before they happen as well as influence things with thought, which is what I meant by try not to lose your mind getting confused over which is which.

>>41146

I don't know the answer, I think it just kinda happens as you progress.

>>41156

well be more descriptive next time ya dip

where do the hallucinations come from when you take drugs? are they just illusions? i've heard the worst hallucinations you get are from jimson weed, and im not to keen to try it

Why You Should Not Smoke Weed or do a Keto Diet

>Nightmares a fairly common, if you remember them you might have overactive systems related to choline. Try an anticholinergic drug to help settle you down. If you have legal access to medical marijuana, this is one of it's medical uses, THC reduces REM and dream recall.

http://pastebin.com/3dddYgvq

>A last resort would be for an adult to try a ketogenic diet, as this can reduce REM and increase SWS. If you are unsure about any of this just talk to a trusted doctor.

http://pastebin.com/3dddYgvq

>>41166

They are not illusions/hallucinations they are thoughtforms from the astral. The drugs are basically killing you and dislodging your consciousness from its physical body and that's letting you see astral phenomena. You should learn to achieve astral-states without the use of drugs.

>>41131

>>41129

>>41124

>>41126

>>41120

Holy shit animated Eris.

>>41168

You can do that while awake? I thought the only way was to do it in your sleep

Thoughts on Moon Matrix/Soul Recycling?

Do Atkinson's books mention that?

>>41170

You can connect to the astral awake or asleep it doesn't matter both work.

>>41176

Do i have to do it sleeping before i can do it awake?

>>41177

No but doing it awhile awake is more advanced and dangerous and you might not be able to just leave the 4D state. If you want a safe compromise between the two make a magic mirror (Read Atkinson's Psychomancy & Crystal Gazing book and also Franz Bardon wrote how to make one and there's an article by Tom Montalk about how to do it as well) and use that to scry into the astral while keeping it safely contained within the mirror.

>>41179

It did seem more difficult and risky for me, thanks.

>>41180

For me it's not more difficult at all but I am an initiate and I've practised for a long time to get to where I'm at.

>>41182

But what's the worst thing that can happen to me if i do it while awake?

>>41183

Well, what do you think could happen to you while you're basically dreaming while awake and also they can influence EMF (electromagnetic fields) and disrupt and destroy any electronics around you, hurt you, throw objects at you, cause you to crash a car, possess you, etc.

Usually when doing evocation you make a magic circle either to stand in yourself and the entity can't get through or you do it the Tibetan style and you evoke the entity within a circle it's contained in.

If it's a nice entity you can let it out after you trust it.

…and if you feel like taking risks you can always evoke a companion, guide, or whatever that will accompany you anywhere and not be restricted in its movements at all.

The worst that can happen basically is you die, end up in a mental institution, get confused what is astral and what is physical, get possessed, etc.

This shit is High Magick man. It's best to prepare a long time for it.

>>41185

I thought it was that way, because i asked this question and it sorta explains why we behave the way we behave on drugs

>>41166

and the answer >>41168

>>41187

If you've read a shitload of occult books like me you'll see a common theme repeated over & over; those people who are most skilled in astral projection appear to be dead while doing AP and basically are, temporarily, dead.

>>41188

reading is death for me, i usually start reading and go about other business on the computer ;_;

>>41190

I don't think you understand me anon. A person who has astral projected, if someone walks into the room and sees them, they are pale as fuck and don't appear to be breathing and look like they're dead.

>>41191

See: ( >>33148 ).

>>41192

what do you mean i don't understand you, im saying that im not used to reading so reading alot of occult books like you is hard for me. it's sort of a digression that has nothing to do with the convo

I'm almost entirely sure that all imageboards are moderated and controlled by the same faggots

It's not safe to post on the Internet or read anything on the Internet anymore.

>>41213

Whatever you do, just don't go into the light when you die.

If magic is real, why does nobody use it?

>>41143

That's good. Jesus said "Seek and ye shall find." So your seeking guarantees that you will find that thing in a finite amount of time.

>>41260

The Veil blocks people from using it. Along with religions. Humanity made some huge mistakes in the past, and the Veil was created to stop people from using magick. Along with the veil, there are people who do not want that sort of power to fall into the hands of the masses.

When I was younger I and I visualized stuff there was always a grid around it and these weird mental feelings, at one point I willed it to be broken and it has never returned. Tf did I do /fringe/

>>41297

You and your consciousness broke through a wall of emotion.

some barriers are physically present

this wall was made up in your mind

I congratulate you on your success

>>41297

Grids are useful for thoughtforming. They define a space and open it up to work in. You can recreate it again by an act of will. All thoughtforms, including your grid, are made out of loosh/emotions.

>>41304

Why the fuck would you interpret a grid thoughtform as a wall/barrier?

>>41305

I don't know whether I should respond genuinely to people who curse at me or genuinely take to heart what those who curse at anonymous persons.

Perhaps I interpreted a grid as a wall at the perspective of looking down or up

A grid can be oriented in any vertical or horizontal plane and all angles In between.

I am of the understanding that in the English language such vague uses of words is entirely possible and acceptable in non-formal communications such as an image board discussion

Perhaps I am bold with my liberal uses of words.

Perhaps I am hungry for mundane loosh subconsciously

None the less it's rude to curse, anon.

>>41318

>None the less it's rude to curse, anon.

LOL BUTTHURT

>>41320

I was excited that someone replied but it seems it wasn't aimed at me :/

meaning of crop circles?

>>41314

>all of this butthurt

>>41326

So much Eris… I need the full collection! Upload it all to mega!

>>41323

I already have my hair in a way that it can cover an eyebrow, which makes me look normal.

Will work on step 1 and 2.

How to acquire lots of loosh btw?

>>41328

>How to acquire lots of loosh btw?

Generate emotions and participate in events where emotions are generated en masse and create thoughtforms and find ways to link them to your emotions and then to other sources of emotion, other people, etc.

Also loosh is obtained from diet too. Raw honey, raw milk (preferably goat's milk), nectar, blood… these are extremely high in concentrations of etheric energy (a baser form of loosh).

Read about loosh on montalk.net

Hi guys I was wondering if you can help me.

I've heard of chakras and how you can generate and pass energy up from the root chakra all the way up to the crown chakra and doing so is how you achieve a tantric orgasm.

Everynow and then I've always liked to test whether I can correctly guess lottery numbers.

Two methods I have tried is closing my eyes and trying to "see into the distance" of the blackness and see which shapes form and look for numbers in those shapes.

The other method I have tried is going over each number and pausing and waiting to see if I get any feeling in my root chakra/Pubococcygeus muscle.

I've had little success with the first method but have had an above average success rate with the second method.

I was wondering if you knew of anything that might increase the signal I get from my root chakra or Pubococcygeus muscle when engaging in the second method as I believe the stronger the signal the easier it will be to "divine" the correct numbers.

P.S. I don't know if doing this is against your boards rules or "magical ethics". If so then please ignore.

>>41347

most people here don't give much of a shit about ethics.

magic is a force of nature like fire, it can burn but it can also warm you up depending on how you apply it. some people here frown on magic that hurts mundanes and allows the wizard to indulge his base desires but other than that everything goes.

In regards to your question the reason why you've had bad results with the first method is your eager desire for the result, just let it go and blank out your mind while having faith that the number will come to you.

Going into a trance should help you with the second method too but specifically get into the habit of doing chakra meditations, those should make the signals clearer.

There are heaps of tutorials online but the gist of it is you must fill the respective area with its specifically coloured energy and spin it rapidly causing you to feel a sensation in that area.

Read the meditation superthread and apply things like quiet mind meditation to further get in tune with your energies. I can't remember where I read it but you're basically using the water style of waiting for the number to come to you, there's also the fire way of willing the number to become the winning one as well as an akashic way which combines the two. Practice on a random number generator between 1-9 and try to get a feel of how you can will a number to appear but try to keep a clear an leveled head for as long as possible. As soon as you get excited from getting the right numbers you lose concentration and everything goes to shit.

>>41376

Only if you actually do the exercises.

Are Will and Desire independent of the mind?

>>41347

>Two methods I have tried is closing my eyes and trying to "see into the distance" of the blackness and see which shapes form and look for numbers in those shapes.

That's literally how you do psychomancy in a rough way you know. You really should read Atkinson's book on Psychomancy right now and see if it helps you with further efforts along these lines.

>P.S. I don't know if doing this is against your boards rules or "magical ethics". If so then please ignore.

You can literally spam gore and do whatever the fuck you want as long as you're not creating new threads to do it. All of the board rules only apply to the creation of new threads.

>>41385

I really don't even understand your question and what you mean by it. I guess I'll just answer with All is Mind.

>>41393

>You can literally spam gore and do whatever the fuck you want as long as you're not creating new threads to do it. All of the board rules only apply to the creation of new threads.

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