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KUMMY KENNY SMILEY

BRAINLESS SISSY WIZTARD

>>65587

>Apparently there some Eastern monks or yogis who can stop their heart by will. I don't see any benefit to do so though because it basically stops circulation of life energy.

Think of it this way, they manage to sustain their bodies via pranic forces directed by will alone.

>>65517

Can confirm that programming your eye muscles can fix lazy eye, fixed my exes that would always drift off once she started thinking. It got on my nerves so bad I took that awkward conversation and it improved to near perfect.

Knew from experience, to much lazy viewing on the computer had one eye slightly off, blink really hard for 10 sec, feel and tense all muscles, a few times and you're good.

Doing this will activate and train muscles that have probably never been used, vital muscles who's purpose is to focus the pupils and move the eye or keep it in place.

Vision has always been 10/10, but it didn't get worse, can't really tell for sure but I think they're slightly better.

I did it three times until I had results that didn't require more editing.

I do however think that looking at your third eye during deep meditation eyelids closed, is partly guilty of the fix/improvement, or at least allowing you to feel and control all the muscles in your eyes.

Try flexing all your facial muscles, now that's a bitch, but has a lot of benefits. More defined jawline, lines between nose and cheeks, facial contouer and unlocks certain niche parts of the spine, comes with good realizations and ultimately your jaw and teeth aligning if you incorporate tongue pressure or extension.

What should I do with extremely strong tingling in my forehead? Are there muscles exercises to somehow utilize this pinching? At times it's so incredibly strong it's almost sexually pleasurable. The thing is, it doesn't do anything except it feel nice

Started when I got deep into fringe/physics/metaphysics literature

SMILEY IS NOT BAE

>>65684

increase intake of magnesium

>>65655

I think that the heart needs to work for prana distribution.

The monks probably just do this as an exercise to show their will power skillz and never for practical reasons.

>>65702

>the heart needs to work for prana distribution.

This I agree with. I however do not agree that it needs to be the physical heart and can not be it's energetic higher dimensional/octave versions.

>>65706

Is prana even a thing for non-physical planes?

Isn't it just energy for manifestation?

>>65722

As pranaic energy is to the physical plane, as astral energy is to the aetheric plane, etc. There are purer more subtle forms of energy as you go up the spectrum of consciousness, but it's similar in nature.

Does anyone here use EEG equipment to monitor brain waves? It could be useful for manifesting in trance and meditation

>>65751

see >>65554

In tao when you're 20-30 it's said you shouldn't ejaculate more often than 2 times a month. You can, however, masturbate/have sex all the time without ejaculation provided you aren't constantly switching between different porn videos.

All these rules are of course completely meaningless if you're advanced and have enough control. If you aren't, then this is the base you start from.

>>65772

Yeah, some of it, faggot.

>>65751

increase magnesium intake

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201106/magnesium-and-the-brain-the-original-chill-pill

How do you get rid of circuit I oral/bio-survival anxieties? Permanently, I mean. I'm looking to cut out unnecessary comfort seeking, approval seeking, inactivity, procrastination, materialism, eating, loneliness, masturbation, etc.

I'm looking at pranayama right now as a start. I'm also implementing intermittent fasting, nofap, cutting out pointless entertainment, better eye contact and posture, pushing myself harder in exercise, and cold showers.

>>65779

The path is presented to each in the right moment, don't try to hasten the steps. You know, things will go well on their own, if you're really concerned about the spiritual growth of this person, you can try to indirectly implant the urge to grow, via induction/suggestion/indirect guidance. You know, don't show off, you'll just scare them away.

I can't help but wonder if we are crazy for believing in these things. But then again I remember i am happiest when in a robe, holding my staff and hurling it around like an idiot pretending to do magic!

can I use aether to become invisible

>>65791

and is something like this even possible with just a username?

>>65785

You can channel pain you experience during freezing showers to manifest things like deprogramming excessive comfort seeking. It's like medieval self-flagellation except you're healing your skin with cold water instead of burdening it to spend energy to heal wounds

Can magic be used to generate or obtain money?

While i have no fantasies of becoming rich, i am in a financially unstable situation and could use it.

Does anyone have a book or some info on it?

>>65751

Masturbation is great as long as you don't ejaculate (the dopamine rush is almost as bad as amphetamines).

Also

>masturbating to women

>giving random women your loosh

ISHIGGY

>>65804

Need money?

"Learn to lie, learn to cheat, realize that anything goes as long as you don't get caught.

You don't become a billionaire by being a good goy, you use everything and everyone you can and don't care about anything but how much money you have."

t. Schlomo Goldwitz, International Banker

>>65808

Well

There's the other side of the coin

If you work for the good forces, you will receive money, but just enough for your needs, you aren't going to become millonaire but you aren't going to be hungry or naked either.

>>65809

>implying you even need money to not be hungry and naked

Unless you live in some third world country there are plenty of places that give free food and shelter, goodwill gives clothes for free if you're homeless.

>>65810

third world countries are even better for living free of money. Many people there grow their own food on farmland in some poor-ass village while the 1st world city inhabitant doesn't have this possibility and needs money for buying his food.

What's the opposite of depression? I don't know what to transmute into. It's not sadness, you're sad when something happens to you, but this is more like a non-stop state.

>>65812

ecstasy

>>65807

>Masturbation is great as long as you don't ejaculate (the dopamine rush is almost as bad as amphetamines).

This is only a half-truth and could end horribly for a neophyte. Edging gives dopamine rushes. The only law here is to be able to control and transmute one's non-physical energy enough to avoid succumbing to things like Pavlovan conditioning. This energy is not physical and doesn't necessarily manifest itself on physical plane as semen. Nutrients in semen are given too much credit

1. If you ejaculate and after that you feel lazy, it's a sign you don't yet know how to do it. Stick to 2-4 times a month unless you learn, or you'll have lower Desire in everyday situations.

2. If you edge and after edging you feel fine, but later you find you sleep an hour longer than usually and feel more lazy, then it means your Desire leaked as well, eg. during sleep you had ejaculatory or non-ejaculatory orgasm you remember or not.

3. Abstaining from ejaculation, sex, fapping etc. doesn't mean shit if you don't control your non-physical energy. If you don't control it, it will leak out in form of uncontrollable anxiety or outbursts of anger, or some force will make you paint a portrait of naked lady, or your body will adapt to have less energy in general.

4. If you have control over energy in and around your body, you can both have sex every day, and then feel great desire to do things during the day.

>>65833

You will die a 76 years old.

>>65790

>>65790

seconding this question please

>>65837

There is a technique in the Book of Knowledge.

That said, it's more of perception manipulation that invisibility per say. But if they don't notice you even if you're standing right in front of them, what's the difference?

>>65839

How well does it work? Does it also impact memory, like people can't recall you afterward?

How can i heal my mundane friend? He's depressed and always says he's bored, I tried telling him it's all mental and stuff but he always stays borderline suicidal for no reason.

What are some ways I can heal him?

>>65846

>What are some ways I can heal him?

What are some ways I can heal him?

Teach him about the traditional role of the male, then help him adapt to it.

Teenagers are depressed bitches because they don't know how they have to live and no one is telling them.

>>65847

interested too

>>65847

That is what lucid dreaming is, parts of the brain that are suppose to be asleep.

>>65848

Traditional role of male?

>>65790

You can make people not notice you but a camera will still show you.

>>65846

Get him to try he following

>get to 8% bodyfat or less (being a fat fuck makes people depressed both biologically and spiritually)

>become a vegan

>do bodyweight excersizes until he can manage 10 freestanding one handed handstand push-ups

>get a gf

>have sex

Or just tell him to get an opiate addiction if he's too lazy for the above.

>>65858

It's just a /pol/ shill.

>>65863

Get back in the oven shlomo.

It was an accident, it was in a shift she moved and it fell, broke in half, one half is a good tip (yes) or triangle, other one pretty much forms a perfect pentagram.

I'm thinking of filing the rough edge and giving it to her, and then probably never speak to her again.

Bummed its broken but happy because I thought of it as a tear, now i see it is an edge, an arrows head.

I previously had a orgonite piece with no tip/broken tip, which was created for protection and healing, then i started directing energy to influence people through the six encased stones & moldovite, had a lucid dream that a raven snatched it from the garden, two days later I get disoriented as fuck walking home from the store carrying grocery bags and lose it on the way.

A new namefig is born.

>>65875

fuck off memelorde

>>65869

Chakras are part of your physical body not your energy body, holy shit what is with all this disinfo.

>>65836

Cute. I think I have more in store for myself than setting a certain time limit.

Are there any recommended books on tarot reading and/or palm reading? Didn't find any in the mega folder.

>>65789

What about some amulet or charm imbued with thoughts compatible with your intentions? People like jewelry and that.

I'm thinking of buying some Pivothead glasses (8 MP camera, does 1080p at 30 frames per second) that I can just wear all the time and record whenever I want and possibly even do livestreams (not sure how exactly that works) in order to capture magickal shit happening on film.

Anyone here think this is a good idea? One of these glasses is less than $200.00 and takes quality POV film.

I want to record channelings, mediumship, psychokinesis, and other shit for /fringe/.

>>65847

I have accomplished what you are asking about. It's possible.

>>65788

*tips*

I bet you don't even know how to concentrate vital energy into a staff.

>>65925

no john you are the demons

When I'm squatting to align my haric line, my thighs burn very bad. I have to stop what I'm doing and let them rest. It takes attention off from the exercise itself. What can I do about it? I squat when I'm weightlifting.

And should I literally hear a sound and feel the heat and line? Because I can somewhat physically feel them, but it's more so a knowing of the feeling, not the feeling itself.

>>65843

funny enough I just bought that book.

This is extremely important. A close friend of mine has lived with a demon succubus since six, she released her from a statue unintentionally and has had her ever since. A few years ago she found out that she was just being fed off of by this succubus. She's had her caged up ever since. Long story short this succubus was once a human. I've been able to remind her of her humanity and all but agree to changing her nature. This no doubt will have to be done by mental alchemy or some kind of transmutation magic. I need your guy's help on this one. If there's a way to do this it has to be done.

>>65784

That depends on how you're trying to control them.

Are you trying to assume direct control over the animal by placing your mental body into the animal or are you just sending thoughtforce at it in hopes of it obeying your command?

>>65948

Just remove that parasite.

>>65948

What a waste of energy that would be, it'd be way easier to just banish the entity rather than doing something as unnecessary as changing a succubus' nature.

Frankly I doubt that's even possible but feel free to flood the succubus with energy impregnated with your wish and see what happens. A purification rite of sorts to banish the slut out of her.

Also this might be a trick the entity's playing on her to get more loosh, which is all the more reason to purge it.

>>65974

reishi

Though you should know that if it's not grown on logs (none of that commercial shit is unless you buy from a specialty shop in China) it's shit.

>>65915

How did you do it?

>>65978

>why would someone lie on the internet?

But honestly it's pretty simple.

If you meditate every waking hour in complete darkness (100% no light) for about a month you will lose all sense of time and waking and sleeping hours will merge into each other.

>>65976

How about sage (salvia officinalis) or centella asiatica or bacopa monnieri?

There aren't any books on herbal medicine or supplements in the sticky. I'd like to make a list of non-shill herbs and supplements, give it to friend in herbal shop and experiment on myself, every month a combination of two

>>65981

https://mega.nz/#F!scMFjYZY!MKTKFWGVVuA7kV4OMHgkcg!RQtS2DpJ

Download the book "herbal medicines", it's over he file size limit

>1108 pages

>>65981

https://mega.nz/#F!scMFjYZY!MKTKFWGVVuA7kV4OMHgkcg!RQtS2DpJ

Book called "herbal medicines", it's over the file size limit.

>1108 pages

>>65956

The thoughtforce projection thing, I'm not much interested in assuming direct control. Is there any focus, method, sympathy, etc. that I can try?

>>65907

Please

>>65867

I'm only being intuitive, but I'd think that it means a piece of you changed with that relationship. It's up to you whether to accept it, and it's possible the crystal wants to go with her, and that's why it broke. A friend of mine broke her friend's crystal and her friend told her that it wanted to break, to go to her.

>>65785

Cool, I should do this too. I've wanted to but hadn't done much except simply trying/doing "nofap, cutting out pointless entertainment, better eye contact and posture" when I remember. Hold your energy circuit closed with slight effort constantly, perhaps helps.

The Bandhas.

>>65791

You'll hurt the other person, and then yourself even worse. I don't suggest it.

Honey is vegan right?

I mean if I produce honey myself and don't take more than I need why is it bad to eat?

>>66000

Feel the same. Thanks. Just needed to hear it.

>>66001

>with slight effort constantly

>The Bandhas.

To make it clear, do you advise to breathe with sucked in stomach and clenched anus all day?

I spend 9 hours a day just sitting and studying. Should I just keep stomach sucked all this time, or do something else

>>66001

>cutting out pointless entertainment

>not reading novels 12 hours a day

How can you even say you're alive?

I've accidentally redpilled my parents on telepathy while being drunk. Wat do? :–D DDD

Print them kybalion and basic psionics

>>65907

http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/index.htm

The Pictorial Key to the Tarot is the classic go to text. But it can depend on your deck.

>>65847

Kind of. I'll explain how our sleep works.

See we have two main phases. One is the phase you think of as sleep which is a delta state and the other is your REM or dream state.

Now meditation is simply this delta state except we are still conscious. So the only difference in sleep is that we are unconscious in this state normally, hence the phrase "passing out".

We can then speak of conscious REM sleep which is a lucid dream or astral projection if you decide to go beyond your own bubble.

So quite simply you need to either sit in a meditational asana or lay on your back. If you can survive about 5 hours of conscious meditation in your posture then you'll start to hit the dream phase consciously. I wont sugar coat it. It's difficult to do. Especially if you take any forms of drugs or lots of food (refined sugar mostly) to do this. Just focus on learning to hit a "Beyond states" kind of meditation where you are not asleep or awake. Time to longer exists and you simply are and exist.

You will need less sleep from this and also get to pick when you wish to sleep.

>>65790

Focus on your heart dan tien and chakra. This is where the torus field or aura is projected from. Then you need to imagine and feel as if it is shrinking and your aura squashing inwards. As well as that you do not exist. Believe completely that you're inexistent even to yourself. You'll hit a kind of dead/trance/cold or icy state where just feel like a moving husk. You can also use thoughtforms by imagining some form of invisible cloak or barrier around your body.

Try this out in commercial areas where you may be checked for having a bag or something like that.

I'm not the only one who felt something off when they woke up right?

>>66012

My yoga teacher said this was fine so long as the effort exerted was about the same as raising an eyebrow I think. (A friend thought it was blinking an eye but I trust my memory better)

>>66008

Np mang (:

>>66038

I didnt sleep! (:

>>66037

>imagine and feel as if it is shrinking and your aura squashing inwards. As well as that you do not exist. Believe completely that you're inexistent

Sounds dangerous tbh

>>65652

>>65652

How do i cure a (gentle) femdom fetish?

I've read that improving testosterone helps, but are there some /fringe methods? Like visualization or whatever?

>>65866

Source on the pic? I'm interested.

>>66038

what's disinfo and what's not?

>mfw people are even claiming chakras and energy work to be disinfo

So did someone save all of the threads on this board before we fail another migration to infinity?

>>66065

I personally snagged a few of the good ones. I know some other anons did the same.

How does energy work relate to thoughtforming?

How can i fix someones laziness?

>>66065

I got 20+ big/important threads on the 20th, however that could be updated. I can post the list now, or I can wait until the migration goes through and update the threads and post it then.

It appears a migration is going on right now. I'm not sure if threads are being transferred or not, it appears that they are. /v/ has a picture at the top signifying infinity next, but it's using the current system.

>>66060

By gentle do you mean girl riding you or getting your balls pulverized?

Because the first one is okay.

>>66062

Salomon Jew magic, the cap comes from one of uncle Chuckies Ebooks on psionics.

Hes a bluepill cunt but really knows his energy work, has some tools to improve and hes coming with new and innovation.

>>66069

Channeling, molding and directing the energy.

>>66082

The guide here on fringe seems to be more focused on inner energy work, would I benefit more from the methods described in the book of knowledge?

>>66084

If I've read it I can't recall.

If you would benefit more from inner energy work rather than hexing?

Yes, inner strength lets you extend it to influence others.

You can sit for hours at a pub trying to attach a thoughtform to someones chakras, say, sex, to trigger a response when he or she sees you, but if you're a limp limbed faggot no posture or charisma who can't act on it, the advantage of catching her eye and interest is lost.

>>66085

uhh, nah the thoughtforms I'd need would all be focused on me, but I figured I would need to project the energy outwards instead of working with it inwards

>>66086

details?

>>66087

just for all kinds of stuff ranging from making myself better phisically to getting good luck, finding jobs etc….

What you want, confidence and progress pretty much comes with meditating on your Chakras.

Inner workings are the way to do, to start with.

way to go*

>>66090

Never heard of this before, what about making a servitor? I've heard charging it simply by giving it attention is enough but does energy work tie into this in any way?

>>66093

If you think "I AM STRONG" you are powering the thoughtform and concept that you are strong - in the moment you think it.

if you make a thoughtform or servitor, a cluster of energy with the intent "I AM STRONG" and have it near you at all times, it will radiate this always in your presence and influence you.

First example is conditioning yourself, your sub conscious, that I AM STRONG, which is actually better because then YOU will radiate it, instead of second which will only remind you.

Which is why its easier to make a servitor exuding "FORTUNE WILL COME TO ME, I AM WORTHY", because this will never go away if you power it, whereas your conditioning can be broken during depression.

If your energy body/mind is strong the conditioning will never break

Yes, for a servitor/thoughtform to be active you have to power it, by feeding it attention, acknowledging it and resonating with it, but if you forget it, it will dwindle.

Thats why you attach it to you, to your mind.

Kinda like a song that is stuck in your brain or if you have low self worth, a sentence such as "I'm ugly" keeps popping up each time you look in the mirror, you replace these (preferably exterminate them first and then sow on fresh soil) with positive thoughts that just "pop up".

"Damn I'm good." "I'm really handsome." "I'm logical, I use reason & I'm on my way to become wise."

So, self imptovement servitors you should attach to yourself and tie to power with each breath.

For example, I take ten good breaths and focus on those I've created and I can feel clusters of energy around my crown, I can't remember what they mean any more, but subconsciously they empower me.

>>66094

That about clears it up though, though the servitor thing, what I had in mind was that I would charge them with the goal of making me stronger, so say, I charge them at night and give them complete power to finish their goal(like it's described in the book of knowledge) and while I'm off doing other things they work for me

>>66096

>servitor will make me find x or bring me y

Really depends on the task. If its to find you stuff, don't keep it locally. If its to boost your presence, have it close. If its to empower and improve you and your confidence, make it stick.

>>66072

Let your soul shine through your smile.

can I progress with magic at all if i'm taking a drug? (kratom, a natural opiate like plant found in indonesia and thailand)

>>65984

I wouldn't really know m8, I'm a control freak so I just merge with the being I need to control in order to make it do what or think/feel what I need it to.

Wish I could be more help but all I can do is recommend you take a more direct approach to this.

>>66038

I had pretty high blood pressure and had a raging headache throughout that day.

>>66072

Either invoke a preexisting charismatic entity or make your own ideal and order it to give you its charisma.

The throat chakra is also closely related to verbal eloquence so pouring energy into it as well wouldn't hurt.

Does anyone know if there's some kind of reverse numerology name generator available online?

As in, instead of inputting a name and generating a bunch of numerology data, I input the numbers I want according to various numerology systems, and it generates a list of all the names that fit those numbers?

>>66073

…Mom?

My english isn't very good. Im able to understood Kybalion and Arcane Formulas with the help of Internet, didn't bother with Teachings. Mind power is trouble for me. Im not used to reading philosophy, and im not used to reading english, so attempting to read Mind power is a mindboggle. Tips?

>>66075

I mean powerplay, where the girl takes control. I'm not into shota or cbt.

I've had a ballbusting period, but nothing gore. Nor a fetish for muscular women.

I just love how a petite/not physically strong woman (not loli btw) can dominate a (not weak) guy.

I mean, i think this is a way to cope with my feeling of being ignored irl (i'm not a r9k robot) due to myself being an introvert (but not a total beta, just laid back). So i like when a girl, in bed, shows affection by taking the lead. Kind of this.

Anyway, i'm trying to turn it into a maledom fetish, and then cancel it gradually by going more and more vanilla.

I know porn is not healthy and fucks up your mind, but on the other hand, I know first hand that you can't break free at once. So i'm trying this gradually.

can tulpa help me get better grades at uni? I'm not talking about some minor improvements, but literally acing courses and being at he top of the class?

>>66117

yes, tulpas can help you with basically anything

>>66121

You're already dead.

>>66116

Nothing bad enjoying her take the lead once in a while.

Fringe has got a massively repressed sexuality.

>>66116

>I know first hand that you can't break free at once. So i'm trying this gradually.

If you banish and forbid all demonic influence it's really not that hard. Just make a firm and clear declaration of your will. See: >>66027

>>66127

>Nothing bad enjoying her take the lead once in a while.

And nothing even traditionally compromising either.

My and my wife switch it up form time to time but she is still a submissive /pol/-tier wife at heart and through all of this it has helped me become more masculine and assertive and she has become more feminine as well. We help each other (in every way, but pertinent to this topic) learn the roles and how her or I are best suited to play them by experience.

>>66118

yeah, but to what degree? what are the possibilities?

>>66134

possibilities fishing

>>66134

virtually endless possibilites

>>66113

anyone? is there any simpler book explaining the concepts in Mind Power or do i have to plow through the whole book sentence by sentence

Kinda interested in understanding what just happened

Meditating, just quiet mind, nothing to do with chakras, get to a point where very blurry visions start coming in and get shocked very painfully by some kind of elictricity, I have no idea what happened, but it was pretty painful

>>66137

>why am i great?

>>

>[doubt] I'm not (little effort or automatic response)

>[confidence] because I am (takes conscious effort)

I don't see how this is any good.

>>66139

Was it like an electric jolt of fear? Did you get startled for no reason, and momentarily opened your eyes?

If yes, I had it happen. It's weird. My theory is that: I see various random images in my mind's eye during mindfulness meditation. If they're randomly pretty, they can be randomly spooky too. Spooky image arises in my mind's eye and I get startled, but I don't remember the spooky vision because I got startled before the vision came to my conscious. I only remember blurry vision before it formed the actual spooky vision.

I don't know how to deal with this. It's very rare, so I guess it's just to be ignored

Can I turn sigils into amulets or enchanted objects by etching them into things.

>>66142

nah it definetly was nothing scary, It felt literally like electricity running through me, I opened my eyes and my vision was clear thought the electricity didn't stop

What are your thoughts on christianity? It seems to me like a giant loosh farming operation for a jewish egregore.

>>66144

>>66138

I could be talking out my ass right now, but I'm somewhat sure this has happened to me once, remember it slightly, and what comes to mind is that you connected to something powerful and your circuits weren't developed enough to establish connection.

Memory isn't 10/10 on this.

Other than that, if you open crown and let energy flow from high into you, you'll feel a buzzing electric experience, like low current through the whole of you.

>>66146

ayy pretty weird, though recalling fully now, It wasn't fully quiet mind meditation, I was also visualising/charging some shit I needed to happen, blurry visions of random shit started coming in and then got shocked

>>66146

By circuits you mean chakras?

>>66143

Yup. Gotta power them also.

>>66148

its possible you jumped, depends on what working you did, and you haven't shared that.

http://tomkenyon.com/jumping-time-lines?utm_source=Hathors+Messages+through+Tom+Kenyon&utm_campaign=4dc6ce82f4-Hathor_Message_8_19_2012&utm_medium=email

>>66150

yes, energy body.

i've jumped twice, nothing so grand as electrocution but whole body oscillates with new timeline/vibrates powerfully.

like a quick powerful BZZ.

In last few days I successfully used my voice to imbue an intention into someone, basically cast a powerful spell on them, and I also managed to do voodoo-like long-range influence with a symbolic form that only corresponded to the target but it STILL WORKED.

I am pleased with myself.

>>66159

there should be a /progress/ thread where one can report in success.

>>66145

>It seems to me like a giant loosh farming operation for a jewish egregore.

Yup.

>>66156

not anything specific really, just worked up a lot of emotion by visualizing my preffered future and believing that the thing I want I already have

>>66163

huzzah for jumping timelines, good job mang. what you felt was you vibrating into your new reality.

put on your party hat, do the same meditation from time to time and do your utmost to settle in the timeline you're now aligned with.

mind if i ask what it was?

>>66167

It was a lot of things actually, basically my succesful future

>>66168

Great success, bless you and good luck!

What is the purpose of /fringe/? Is it pursuit of desires? Is it enlightenment? How does astral projection lead to enlightenment?

In other words, what's the meaning of life?

>>66169

Thanks!

aren't we jumping into different realities every split of a second? I thought changing realities worked as slow aligning over course of trillions of little jumps, not one big shock.

I'd imagine the shock the anon felt was some tiny part of his mindset suddenly changing. this tiny part will make him do or say one thing different at some point, which ultimately will cause a chain of events leading to his preferred future.

if possible realities are to be separated by such "jumps" though, then I guess welcome and I wish you stay with us as long as you will

Are we moving to endchan? There is no fringe board up there yet. Stormchan is back up. That place used to have a lot of overlap with fringe.

>>66173

That the shock was side effect of his personality suddenly changing is too improbable.

The only purpose of the shock was so that he would ask about it on the internet and receive answer that would make him believe he jumped realities.

A strong belief that would actually make his preferred future real for real :^)

"why am i so rich, why am i so damn handsome and strong "

Where can I get Black Goo Globuli?

>>66170

someone please, if the I is not the desires, what's the purpose of pursuing them? or the desires are manifestations of the I, but this couldn't be, because then we'd have the same desires during our entire lifespan, otherwise we would be dead once they are no more

>>66173

Yeah but its different forcing yourself into a timeline that isn't in the natural flow, anon has successfully aligned himself to a timeline where he has the things he "wished for", wishing isn't the right word, the right term is; he has, by doing so he attracts that which he has immensely powerfully.

Right now, the things anon has are just waiting for him to be picked up, he already has them, and he knows it, he just needs to talk to the job interviewer, see the girl and walk the street to find it.

Anons "I have, I will have" changed his vibration like a lodestone to attract all that he has. Law of Attraction is attracting the probable future of getting what you want, jumping timelines is aligning yourself to already have it, and the results are that he already has it, he is in the timeline where his desires are and they will come to him.

>>66178

Its not nearly as powerful as I AM.

>>66178

but you're right, it does circumvent the doubt, because its not an affirmation, its a question, an open question that can be answered; "Because others are poor, because there are relatively ugly people, because I can lift more than women."

>>66177

But by changing ones personality you are jumping timelines.

What if Lenin had an overnight seizure and decided to not slaughter the middle class and educated of Russia? We would be living in a different timeline.

The shock or current of "electricity" is your aura realigning.

>>66181

I don't know the purpose of /fringe/ and it doesn't really matter. Real question is what's your purpose?

I has to be the True Self, most people have no idea about it, since they are so enclenched in their Social Self, the person they show to others. The first step to meditation is getting in touch with the True Self, undoing your conditionning, to become a more authentic version of you. You have to clean your shit, before getting shit done.

You are not just your ego.

They are much more other things that makes you, then your ego. You are simply always aware of it, along with your physical body.

The ego is the storehouse of desires and frustrations, which are the various forms tooken by an extremely powerful energy. The ego is supposed to be raw, creative and powerful energy.

Kundalini cultivation is simply releasing the energy of the ego, one rising at a time, towards a goal, which can be anything and everything.The Wise uses it to achieve complete Liberation This is the immediate purpose of Yoga, liberation and complete self reliance. Enlightenment comes after complete Liberation.

>>66154

How do I do that? Normally Sigils are destroyed, do I focus on them or do energy work…?

>>66125

Fuck

I hate being killed without notice

What was?

Asteroids

Nukes

Yellowstone

Fuck this quantum imortalily next time I head to the moon to erase memory

>>66188

When a sigil is burned it is powered by the fire and focused energy to become a charged thoughtform in the aether, you can summon the sigil with a thought. Minds eye, home in on it and draw from it or charge it. Its ever present, and local if its tied to you.

>>66190

>initiates

furry wants a response, here, (you)

>>ALHYM

why and what

>>66187

I been close to liberation

Really close

But them I ask myself

Liberation for wat?

I want to enjoy this world, if i kill all desired how to enjoy tings

Sex ,booze

Weed is off my menu now becose I can't smoke whitaud realizing that I am not real ,that there's is not me

Which is scary as fuck

I am 2 joins away from illumination, which after research is the total destruccion of your world and yourself

Sometimes after realizing the true nature of the mind I got to ask myself if I fall into a trap ,one ting is knowing that you are noting other ting is actually realizing that in fact you don't exist in any sense at all

I want stuff, new clothes, new pc , play fall out , but I am a poor fag

How to manifest items

How to get karma free money

How to change depression to happynes

I know there's is not coming back from this path, but would be nice to enjoy Psicality wit a ego , even if is to say goodbye to it

>>66196

Mundane and wrong as fuck.

>>66196

I've been asking the same questions, but i think the reason you don't see the meaning in Liberation is a side effect of depression. You asked about changing depression to happiness so that must be it. I haven't read the whole fringe library because honestly im a lazy fuck but i don't have the knowledge to make myself not be a lazy fuck through occult means, so i will be standing on my current level until i have to read the next book in order to prevent something terrible from happening, more bluntly said, suicide. I cannot help you, for i am too sinking. But at least i know im not alone.

>>66195

Because sonic the Hedgehog, and thanks your loosh tastes crappy

>>66200

>ALHYM

unless its some newfnord tier 'all', why?

your mantra is indian designated street tier and your farming skills are on par with the inhabitants of africa.

go to /b/ to forage kek, nisse.

>>66199

link me your posts, what do you want to know?

huh?

dude said it was cool!

I,m just trying to party, man.

>>66203

change flags so we can't recognize you.

>>66202

I'll sum it up. My thanks for stepping out to help.

I was in some sort of downward spiral, i started reading fringe material, got to Arcane Formulas, im better now, but i still feel empty. I go to Mind Power, it's a little hard to understand due to my weak concentration, but even when i come to realize that the book is about attaining success in everyday life, i just ask my self "why"? If the final goal is the All, God, Creator, whatever, where does the earthly life fit into all this? But then again, forfeiting life and saying that it's meaningless doesn't really cut it, neither does blind hedonism. Neither the monk, nor the drunk, seemed to satisfy me.

I've seen a post where an anon says that i should set a goal for my self, and then i will get some kind of motivation. Maybe that's just the case.

Can you sustain yourself with magick on the physical realm? What I'm talking about is money wise and whether or not I can become successful off magick alone.

>>66170

>What is the purpose of /fringe/?

It's a place for us spiritually aware & awakened people to explore the nature of the universe and help one-another out with out the constant >implying magic exists

>Is it pursuit of desires?

Technically that is all of existence.

>Is it enlightenment?

For some.

>How does astral projection lead to enlightenment?

It does not directly, but it does provide proof that you are not your fleshly body, which is a huge stumbling block for many.

>In other words, what's the meaning of life?

To grow. To develop. To become more than you were before in every aspect. Physically, energetically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. To expand your perspective to the horizon, and then, to do it again ad infinitum. To become aware of everything you have seen in an intimate way. To become the complete self-realized God in every way. And then to grow.

>>66173

>aren't we jumping into different realities every split of a second?

You are technically correct. ~1x10^44/second AKA 1 Planck time/second.

>I thought changing realities worked as slow aligning over course of trillions of little jumps, not one big shock.

That is still correct, but there has to be a dividing line somewhere between realities that are different.

>>66196

Once you realize the illusion of the material world you will want for nothing of this Earth.

>Weed is off my menu now becose I can't smoke whitaud realizing that I am not real ,that there's is not me

Which is scary as fuck

That, honestly, sounds like what you need (if it does help you in that way).

That said, facing your fears and conquering them is always good.

>>66207

>Can you sustain yourself with magick on the physical realm?

I'm pretty well on the way to not needing to eat. Other's have achieved it entirely.

>What I'm talking about is money wise and whether or not I can become successful off magick alone.

Oh, you meant for mundane things. Well you could, in theory, but if you align your physical actions with your metaphysical manifestative blueprints it will work out MUCH faster and more efficiently.

Okay what is the best way to direct energy into another person remotely?

Let's say I want to make someone as powerful as I can, how should I go about doing this?

Anyone know of a method to cure cerebral palsy in someone else?

>>66211

>The ting about suicide

>Is a constant

>>constant

nobody will to bother responding to you because you've got the attitude that you've already figured everything out, while you couldn't be more wrong.

bless the patient soul that might conjure all the fucks needed to set you straight.

to long, wont type; you're wrong

>>66212

I usually take an image of them (if possible) otherwise a name, screen name, post number, etc. and focus on the essence behind that and project energy much as you would into something like say a psiball.

If you wanted to be fancy you could AP to them and do it.

If you're just trying to power some one up there is lots of other ways as well

>get a sigil to redirect them loosh

>make a thoughtform to help either direct to even collect loosh

>evoke something for help

>pray

Get creative man. Magic is not nearly as ridged as some people think in needs to be.

>>65833

Can someone offer some guidance here?

>>66220

>if I ask you where one should grow if the desire for anything earthly is gone?

Why into the heavens of course. (Astral, Mental, Causal etc. planes)

>How are we supposed to grow after that - without goals and desires?

Goals and desires still are there, they are just for an increased experiential knowingness of God, which is well beyond this material realm.

>>66224

Sorry, I deleted the post and wrote at new one, but then the picture was shit :–DDD

Anyway:

>Why into the heavens of course.

Yeah, but what to do there? What's the point of getting there? Is it to split yourself up and manifest physically again and thus reincarnate? At least that's what the creator of this world supposedly did, right? Just fooling around in manifestation because heavenly existence is so boring?

>Goals and desires still are there, they are just for an increased experiential knowingness of God,

I fail to see how desires aren't just a form of suffering on the material plane.

>>66196

You haven't seen or been remotely close to liberation. You aren't "2 joints away from illumination maaaaannee".

Please, don't missuse these words, they actually have a meaning…

Stop asking questions you can't understand, since then I could just answer with "42" and it would be the same result, total confusion.

>>66225

>Yeah, but what to do there? What's the point of getting there?

To keep expanding your awareness and mastery over the universe with it. It's the next step in growth/Godhood.

>At least that's what the creator of this world supposedly did, right?

To know himself as infinite and grow and expand, yes. But we are not he.

>Is it to split yourself up and manifest physically again and thus reincarnate?

I do not believe so, but even once we reached complete unity with God I do not believe that would happen however this is just theorizing from this point, but I don't think we would do that even once we reached the ultimate any how I think we would just continue to shepherd the rest of the universe and grow with it and make our own, who knows.

>Just fooling around in manifestation because heavenly existence is so boring?

I think you misunderstand the notion of heaven, it's simply another level of existence. It's not a place of eternal stagnation like the Christians make it out to be. It's another rung up the ladder of cosmic evolution, one in which we have a significantly greater degree of awareness (and thus control/unity) with our bodies and environment, to the point where they would be immediately responsive to will/thought. From there we would expand how much we where aware of at once and continue to increase in power and creative complexity.

>I fail to see how desires aren't just a form of suffering on the material plane.

See >>65394

>>66233

tl;dr

Growth, evolution, ascension, is the meaning of life.

The problem is that i don't know what is growth and what isn't. For example, taking care of oneself, it sounds a bit egoistical to me. But the "taking care of oneself" probably includes taking other people into the equation, because helping other people is also good for the soul.

How does one see magic? My visualization is shit is there any way to see magic or energy, because other than that I feel like I'm stumbling in the dark.

>>66238

same

>>66242

>greater degree of awareness (and thus control/unity) with our bodies and environment, to the point where they would be immediately responsive to will/thought

>requires complete lack of attachment to the physical.

Not that guy, but still kinda weird for me, The only way you could manipulate it is if you would still be atleast mildly attached to the physical,to be completely detached sounds like ascending to 4thD forever

Has anyone here had an OBE that confirmed for them that it wasn't just a dream?

Have you attained knowledge you couldn't have otherwise known (e.g. a test where your friend writes a number down on paper and leaves it on their dresser for you.)

Anything? Or is AP simply lucid dreaming, and subconscious exploration?

>>66242

that's what im thinking - once you become God - what do you do?

So am I the only one afraid that Hermetic teachings aren't the actual original Hermetic teachings at all? Similar to that the Christian bible has been modified and changed over the centuries, all it would take is one person translating one of the few copies and then spreading it to cause disinfo. Has anyone done research into this? This fact has been slowing done my progress, I can feel it. I just can't believe that WWA can be considered a reliable resource or any other occult teaching for that matter.

>>66246

Why do you trust Buddhist teachings then? If it works, then it's good.

>>66247

I don't necessarily, Buddhist scripts were intentionally mistranslated by Christian monks, I just choose a random epic flag.

>If it works, then it's good.

That could be just a placebo effect. I don't know why the legitimacy of the recommended readings is never taken into account.

>>66244

I literally bilocated once, having double awareness.

>>66246

Emerald tablets of Thoth are legit. WWA is just armchair occultism, not that bad for beginners though.

>>66248

Do energy work and you will be able to separate the bullshit "occultism" from real miracles and wisdom.

>>66250

Isn't the emerald tablets of thoth just theory too?

>>66251

>real miracles and wisdom

Like what?

>>66251

Any good resources on energy work besides the thread here on /fringe/?

>>66258

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqdg3i3QsBk&list=PL3D35F0088B774B2E

Is a good reference for how to cultivate your energy. And of course, the more you have the easier it is to feel and therefor work with.

Otherwise, just meditate and be still, a lot. You will become more aware of what there is (around you, energy) when you are not so distracted with other things such as your thoughts.

>>66250

My problem is that we can not be certain that what was on the original Emerald tablets is what we read today. I have trouble having one end all be all source.

>>66251

>>66254

This is what I've been trying to do, but I just had to express my skepticism on the authorities of /fringe/.

>>66264

>yes

right, so magick is basically you manipulating shit in 3rd density

>>66265

by realigning the fourth and fifth using your thought and emotion that can access the source code densities that are responsible for making things occur in the third.

>>66266

what about manipulating matter?

>>66265

>so magick is basically you manipulating shit in 3rd density

It's rather manifesting 3rd density shit from "above".

3rd density is the end station, you can only change it by means of higher density actions.

Even wiping your ass after shitting wouldn't be possible without you manifesting the idea into 3rd density action.

>>66267

Theoretically possible.

Whats feasible doing "magic" is influencing thought & emotion, IE, possible outcomes, actions, thoughts and desires.

4th and 5th tugs at 3rd like a weak magnet, while something created in the third becomes a permanent in the fourth and higher, radiating its geometry like a sexy sculpture manifesting sexual impulses by onlookers.

>>66270

I haven't understood yet why influencing manifested matter with the magickal means is that hard. It should be easy, but there's some obstacle.

>>66267

Easy, but takes a while for it to change

>>66273

Energy requirements, you might know how to reconfigure atoms to change element to element, but you don't have the individual power to deconstruct third density bindings and realign them. You need to infuse X with enough vibration to realign into Y, doing this with thought or emotion is near impossible, theoretically possible yes, very much yes, but you just can't focus enough mind into a piece of metal for it to heat up and transmute.

to change third density matter you have to muster not just pure frequency feels, which are extremely high frequency, but the Monad, God itself to assist you in altering the metal or stone. You personally don't have the power, God bestows it. That is the barrier you are thinking about.

You'll have to be a pure conduit of God to bend third density to your will, and if you achieve this, its Gods will, not yours.

>>66267

or just create thoughtforms to do it for you

>66277

6+6=12

12+2=14

14+7=21

12+7=28

2+8= 10

>1

>66277

6+6=12

1+2=3

3+2=5

5+7=12

1+2=3

3+7=10

>1

I want to know more about casting out nines/vortex math, does someone have a good read?

>>66283

>>66283

Seen the first, I've been spamming that and all the others for a few years around the net, second one isn't really that educational, he's slow and doesn't get to it, does he have more and how much do you recommend it?

>>66276

>but you don't have the individual power to deconstruct third density bindings and realign them.

I thought so.

To change third density, it's resting structure has to be destroyed first.

>>66277

>You personally don't have the power, God bestows it.

It's fucking annoying. Even a small candle fire can melt plastic. Is human unable to repeat after a small candle?

>>66285

>>66285

Not destroyed, altered. If you manage to make x vibrate into y it will change its resonance and bindings immediately, not wither to dust of corpuscles and then change to y, but change directly from x to y.

Your souls power rests in the higher dimensions, they can only subtly influence the third dimension, which is why higher entities come down to Earth to do missions, in the physical you contain more power in your bindings than entities much more powerful than you when you are a soul, which is why you can command them, ward them off, destroy them. It's why they leech or try to influence or control you.

But stepping down to Earth is dangerous, you succumb to all manners of degenerate addictions and desires, you might get stuck in reincarnation, you might sell your soul to an entity of much lower power and frequency for poor help, you might split, attain uneccesary karma..

Third density is a high risk reward game.

You don't realize how powerful you are in third density, and it's hard to understand what immensely evolved being you were before you stepped down to here.

Consciousness is sacred, but if corrupted will be deceived and used by service to self entities.

In the same time your soul can not rival a candle, you are a near perfect manifestation of God once born and your whole in the third can rival and command entities much more evolved than you in the higher dimensions.

Hypothetically if you ascend and release the power in the bindings of your body, you are an atom bomb next to the tiny candle.

Your third density body commands the candle, but the third density candle, being more firm, condensed power rivals your soul.

>>66278

literally this, what are you faggots here on about

>>66284

Nothing good off the top of my head, here are a few things though that may aid you in your search.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Toroidal_Power

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Vortex_Technologies

>>66286

Thank you for the elaborate response.

>Not destroyed, altered.

Yeah, I got that. Loosening up the structure and altering it - I just used the wrong word.

>You don't realize how powerful you are in third density, and it's hard to understand what immensely evolved being you were before you stepped down to here.

>entities much more powerful than you when you are a soul

It's kind of confusing. If humans are such badass for having the ability to manifest themselves, why are there more powerful entities in the higher realms that can't manifest?

>>66278

meant for

>>66277

>>66290

>why are there more powerful entities in the higher realms that can't manifest?

>they're not compatible with humans, their souls evolved alongside a different animal

>they have no need or want, nothing to learn, to much to risk, they're selfish

Its important to know, human souls did not evolve alongside with the amphibians, early mammals, monkeys or proto humans of this planet.

The human species come from the stars, spliced their genes on early hominids to create labor and left them here, seeing their creation as inferior.

Unfortunately, the souls compatible with the Human body, which is nigh identical to that of its creators, is that of its creators. When a Earth human is born, a vortex sucks available and willing soul to it, from elsewhere, original homeland.

Unfortunate or willing original humans, whose life expectancy were thousands of years old, are stuck in bodies that decay after merely half a century. If you don't raise yourself above the lowly, animistic vibration of Earth, you're bound to be stuck here to reincarnate until you're pure enough to leave.

Original humans, from space, from not Tellus, have evolved during a period of time vastly greater than the time their degenerating, inferior copies have spent time on Earth, but because the bodies you and I have are PRIME bodies, they're sought after by other 3d entities looking to harvest DNA to cut their evolution short by hundred and thousands of years of natural evolution.

Earth itself as a planet was not ready to harbor such spiritually adept creatures, the evolution of Earth and its frequencies have not yet produced it naturally - Earth is stuck in a basic, primal vibration, which is why souls who come here to live in human bodies suffer.

Lost myself; Point being; Our bodies are, or were originally, perfect, non degenerated copies of a species spiritually evolved as fuck. Our base is perfection of evolution, a true apex of evolution and manifestation of God. Earth fucks us sideways as this is not our home, we are in constant discordance.

Can't remember why I wrote this, but I'm sure its useful to someone.

>>66255

Who wrote Magical Use of Thoughtforms and Chasing Phantoms to get thought form ideas? Also does anyone have a pdf of either?

>>66293

It's in the /fringe/ library

>>66294

The mega folder from the sticky thread? I don't see either.

>>66295

Can't dump it, my net won't agree.

Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki & J.H Brennan

Google PDF

>Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki & J.H Brennan

Thanks

>>66292

Thank you, that gives me enough ideas for research.

>>66292

disinfo

How do I make somebody over the internet completely obsessed and in love with me?

>>66308

kek, this is turning into a meme

Let me tell you a story /fringe/.

>go through some tough times, the thought "I hate this life" goes through my mind multiple times per day

>as usual, I decide to have some astral travels in the evening

>doing my thing, exploring worlds, having fun

>suddenly darkness

>what the fuck? why am I being surrounded and consumed by it?

>suddenly it starts talking to me, asking me to give in to angst and do some nasty shit

>visualize a shield to stop it from touching me

>tell it to fuck off and visualize heavenly light illuminating it all away

>get back to the physical feeling pretty drained, decide to go to sleep to regain my energy

>dreams filled with nightmarish shadow people surrounding me and trying to hurt me, good thing I can lucid dream them all away

>ends the night with some grotesque sexual dream causing me to have a nocturnal emission further draining me of my loosh

>wake up tired as fuck, will probably nap throughout the day

May this be a warning to newfriends to always watch your emotions, it's no wonder Smiley started having weird shit like poltergeists attracted to him when he went through his edgy phase.

Reread the law of attraction and think nice positive thoughts at all times if you don't want such encounters.

>>66313

You can full on OBE astral project?

Not to be anti /fringe/ but are there any other good places that discuss the occult?

Not to be anti /fringe/, but are there any other good places that discuss the occult?

>>66338

>>66339

Speaking of double posts, is there a backup plan to go somewhere else in case the migration doesn't work out?

>>66230

>stop asking questions you can't understand.

I knew you were full of it.

>>66344

You would do well to respect her. She is one of the few Adept-tier wizards who still regularly posts here.

And furthermore, I agree whole heatedly with her assessment. That poster is very illusioned, has much to learn, even to reach a neophyte level, far too caught up in his ego, does not embrace growth, etc. etc. etc.

I was not going to even say much, but you should at least respect your elders. Else they may not help you till you do. And if you're lost at sea because of your own ignorance and unwillingness to listen to the sages. Well you'll have to deal with it yourself.

Hello /fringe/,

This is my favorite board out of all the boards on all the chans I've ever been to. I come here to read now and again, but haven't had the chance to devote myself to it more meaningfully.

I value the information posted here highly.

I think there is a very real danger of us losing this place (8ch) one day, and I think some serious effort should be put in to having a backup plan. A way to get in touch with this community should anything happen.

Perhaps the answer to this question could be stickied for all to see.

Awaiting a response

>>66347

This, but lady negro is very hostile & condescending, trying to piss on others to make herself look better, exuding an aura of feigned wisdom and knowitall, coming with cryptic answers to things she don't know. Jemima wants to be big nig. She should work on her ego.

Don't get me wrong, Jemmy isn't stupid and knows a lot of things, but shes far from humble, and if you speak like this to people who treat you as an equal or better, it'll tick them off.

I wont touch anons post with a twenty foot stick, but telling him to stop asking questions is detrimental to progress for everyone involved.

DaQuanDa, don't pretend to know everything, your life will improve.

Does anyone know of a better explanation of the technique of Rhythmic Breathing than the one offered by The Science of Breath?

I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to be doing.

how can I cure my severe social anxiety?

>>66359

Fix the things you're anxious about and your anxiety will be gone forever

>>66109

www.gematrix.org

Leave Auntie alone!

LEAVE HER ALONE!

>>66359

Love yourself.

>>66358

In and out like waves against the shoreline, effortlessly with as much resistance as possible.

If this is shallow, okay, it'll have to do. It'll improve once you learn full breath, once the abdominal fills first and your upper lungs second, then your ribcage will expand permanently as cartridge pops and aligns properly, which will allow for larger rythmix breaths.

Occasionally take a deep breath as possible, with a straight spine, without forcing it.

You can tighten your stomach muscles and do it to exert force on top of lungs, just don't EVER close the passage of air while flexing muscles with a deep breath inhaled, unless you know what to do you might get serious and permanent injuries to your spine.

>>66377

As little resistance as possible*

>>66377

To progress further with breath, take deep full breaths that makes you feel like you're going to pop, then hold one arm pointing 12 o'clock with the other under it and around the elbow, now twist your upper body horizontally towards the arm that is holding the one pointing forwards.

If this does nothing and doing a full breath barely expands your ribcage, that from the lowest chakra, do walking meditations, stretching, yoga, every time in the morning on your back, put on knee up so that foot reaches other legs knee, twist the leg that is partially bent over the erect leg while having a straight posture.

Feel cracks? Good, continue, activating your two lower chakras with movements, retard steps, dance moves, swinging back and forth from leg to leg in a rythmix motion, training muscles, activating chakras, results are, you will never feel awkward out out of sync walking.

Third chakra is emotions (end stages are breath with pressure (holding breath with mudra to lock, this can be dangerous and you will need to be certain of which part of the spine you're about to realign, and if it's something you should or not do) this comes only after fourth and fifth) which makes you flex your stomach, which exerts pressure on the spine in the area, it's usually coupled with a movement, I suggest twisting your upper body, not so that is hurts, and never while holding your breath.

Open breath massive amounts of air into abdominal.

Fourth chakra is mainly breath and posture, with some amount of movement and emotion.

Fifth is expression, singing, chanting, making sounds and realizations, but in the end stages it's held breath with still posture pressure.

Sixth is thought.

Seventh is a rythmic movement starting at the Base of your spine, or feet, moving it's way up through your body in a perfect motion or dance, culminating in swinging, flicking or snaking your head, or spine up to the Base of your skull.

I advice to be careful about taking deep breaths and compressing the ribcage with muscles. It's progress to do it, but never force it, it must come naturally.

When this is done, all chakras active, your ribcage will expand exponentially when taking full breaths, each and every part of your temple from throat to pelvis will expand and deflate, in a natural, calm and rythmic motion.

This takes years so don't be hasty, but once done your posture will be great, your shoulders should sit where they should, you can hold your breath longer, you'll be more confident, calm and collected, you will find yourself to sometimes not breathe at all, and not need to for several minutes.

tipp=disinfo

>>66386

no u

>>66064

Everything is true to varying degrees. What I would advise is for you to do basic work on yourself (energywork, emotional/shadow-work, meditation to connect to higher self/god) until you can raise your kundalini without going insane, and then that energy will show you Your truth by its vibes. Be willing to die over and over (your ego and sense of who you are, so that you can be who you Should be).

People are stupid. Chakras may not be the exact thing they're said to be, but they're a thing, and energy work is the most basic of basics. May as well not believe in anything if you don't believe in something with such massive proof.

>>66392

Do you have any routine for energy work?

>>66347

No one with any real knowledge would actually post here. Khan himself said he has only been at it for like a year, no one who posts here actually has the ability to help any of the people who are actually in need. I can say this from experience.

>>66357

This, just like didi who is not the way he appears at all.

>>66373

Posters like you are what ruin fringe.

>>66072

Figure out who You are enough that you can be you regardless of what people think of that. You don't need to care what anyone thinks as long as you go to the places that resonate with you and act in the way that resonates with you.

You might need some extra love to break out of your shell, and you have to find a place for that. I found a community of "hippies" that did it for me.

Charisma is believing you're cool until you get cooler. It probably won't work at first because you're too used to not feeling like "you're doing it right" because of childhood programming/trauma. Development is erasing who you think you are and revealing who you truly are.

>>66073

Try fixing your own (in the small ways), then fixing your need to feel responsible for your laziness, then realise you don't love them for who they are, but for who you think they can be if they'd just get off their asses! and that maybe they don't want to because it's too comfortable and being better is scary because that involves killing part of their ego/facing their darkness (yours is part of the fact that taking responsibility for others is parenting them at best, when they just want acceptance and love).

Then let them go or confront them.

They're probably resisting it, aren't they?

Maybe they don't want to be helped. You need to release what they think of you, knowing that only what you think of you matters, and develop. The Bhagavad Gita is a metaphor for spirit development, the killing a metaphor for the friends you lose.

But letting go of their energy means you'll find the person who is of a similar energy but on a higher level, who resonates more with you, who at worst is more ready for your teaching, or who at best can teach you a lot!

Good luck.

>>66083

?

>>66090

cool pic/idea, man!

>>66094

Hm. I think my conditioning is strong enough not to break other than occasionally.

>>66101

Hm. My eyes have always been the thing to show and reveal that in myself/others.

>>66104

Yes, but it's like rolling a boulder up a hill. Tough and it'll go down if you don't practice daily.

>>66193

Quantum immortality is awesome!

How else could you survive everything until you learn enough to be worth a whole life?

>>66127

People are too stuck in duality/the thinking that men have to be the manliest and women have to be the femalest, because that's societal conditioning/they have experienced being too feminine/needy and rejected and read all the stories of dream girls getting fucked by other guys, not knowing how the dream girls are fucked up etc.

>>66137

I either don't understand or that's not a great idea.

>>66139

I'd assume it's you reacting to the energy flowing through you and trying to stop it on instinct, because you were afraid of it on some level. That's what it would mean to me.

>>66144

nvm I think tipp's answer is better.

>>66165

shit, that's a little too exciting of a possibility for me right now. ((((:

>>66158

&how does this relate to other people? Do they all have copies in every universe and then the one you go into has the copies that resonate most with that uni/they're dead if they don't resonate enough?

>>66394

where do people with real knowledge post?

>>66397

They don't

I'm leaving soon again, and I wont return, the quality of this board has dramatically declined since its creation, I can't find the threads or answers I'm looking for, blame the kike who flushed the board, all the books and multiple good threads about aliens with plenty of PDF's.

Staying for two more question threads then I'll see you on the new site or in a year or two.

>>66398

;(

>>66396

read

>>66173

There is only one here and now, but depending on your vibration you create and attract from the higher planes the desired future, the stronger you resonate with it the stronger you attract it.

>>66394

Shut the fuck up, bullshit occultist.

>>66173

I think you exist in a lot of universes. Don't wish us to stay! We must go where we go.

But we'll be with you if you vibe with us even a little.

>>66178

oh.

>>66182

dang, I think I need to figure out things I want enough to do that. I don't know that I want anything enough to do that, though, since I actually kinda do have everything I want. Maybe I already vibed into the right reality, just more slowly. I did change my ego a lot in the last few months too.

>>66187

Cool.

I still have desires for a few things I haven't experienced much physically. I'm okay with being a little held back/grounded, though. I mean… I don't know if enlightenment is a good thing? Does it all end or just begin again after enlightenment?

Unless it's significantly better (or… "true-er?" I don't know. more loving?) next time I'd think that it'd be fine to sit here and enjoy a little of the fruits that are here

[relationships that are actually based in love rather than need/abuse, for one! the ability to share my love and loving creative gifts, the ability to enjoy addictive foods without being addicted (still working on that, probably should just stick to fruitarianism for now or ever, knowing i can eat on the astral because I already have experienced taste in ethereal form)]

before moving on, rather than transforming the ego as quickly as possible. Even though that was the path I was on for a few months. Maybe it was too painful and now that I'm actually enjoying things more I want them too much? I mean, I enjoy what comes next and I know it both satisfies my earthly desires and my desire for progress on the path, so I think it's fine not to have the steepest path I can take all the time.

Just thinking out loud.

>>66187

That reminds me I really need to start practicing Tantra! I have to go back and find what you (& another Tantrika) recommended when I asked.

I mean I sort of already am practicing it, only because I'm getting in Divine Flow at this point, but I'm sure I'd advance faster learning from masters/books.

>>66196

>How to change depression to happynes

Choose to be happy, content with what you already are. There was that one Lao Tzu quote I think in this thread, or the last one, that depression is living in the past, anxiety is living in the future, contentment is living in the present.

You want things you perceive you don't have, that's why you're unhappy. Be thankful for everything you do have, and love what you have. Get rid of excess and more will flow to you.

Be more loving.

I know it's hard, because you're holding onto what Was, rather than what Is. What Is, Is what you Believe/Trust.

No coming back? You can do whatever you want.

>>66198

agree.

>>66199

my answer to you is the same as to the other guy you quoted.

>>66205

Oh, I see. You need balance. Learn to love mundane things. See God in everything, and love God. The simplest things have the most potential to be anything. A blank piece of paper can turn into a canvas for all imagination, or be transformed with flame into nothing, because it was close to nothing to begin with. Everything can come from Nothing, which is why erasing your ego makes you into a container/mirror for your surroundings, like a baby/child.

What you're seeking is a middle path. Base desires are the lower 3 chakras, high desires are the upper 3. Use your heart to bring them together.

All you have to do is love, and the way opens. All chakras are naturally developed if you put your heart into yourself and the world.

(:

This is a goal for you to pursue, and once you've done this thing, you will be strong and loving enough to recognize your True needs, independent of this thing I have placed upon you. It is your choice whether to take this path, but it is the path everyone takes in one way or another; the path of love/truth. Turning away from it shows you what you don't want, until what you don't want burns you and forces you to turn toward the light. Running toward it is what causes the disillusionment you are experiencing, because you lose your old self and don't know what the point is anymore, being so much closer to the light that you feel You don't make sense anymore. Nothing has to make sense. Let go until you can change into anything. You're not ready to lose all attachment but that's what you tried to do, which is why attachments seem so false to you right now. But they keep you "human" rather than dissolving into nothing, which You aren't ready for because You feel you haven't been You yet. That probably sounds a little nonsensical. Ha.

I love you (:

>>66205

I had this experience a few times. To take the middle path is to figure out what to accept and what to reject. What's happening on another level is that you're rejecting some stuff, but you don't know what to accept and what to reject, so you feel weird and hopeless, because you're running through barriers that used to be important to you.

So it's like running through an invisible wall of emotions, and you're drained emotionally. That's one thing depression is. Lack of emotional strength, tiring of emotional muscles.

Which is why MDMA makes people depressed; they FEEL everything until their emotional/astral muscles get tired.

any single thing has 100s of interpretations, and this is only a few of them that resonate with me right now.

>>66402

This epic meme lord has just been here forever, calling everyone this. Why are you even here seriously. Tell us why don't you, what the fuck is REAL occultism. Even though the statement itself is an oxymoron.

>>66405

if you say things that youre not allowed to talk about they post that.

>>66207

What the other person said. If you do it physically it makes it more powerful because the world has to do is physically somehow. What you're trying to do is put in enough energy that someone else does it for you, which is more easily possible if you align yourself with that. Meaning taking some physical action. So, I imagine you must have SOME desire other than magick. Posting here for example. So you could make a living off of writing maybe. Or move to a place where you can be a monk or beggar. Then you can practice all you like with little interference. Figure out a way to transform your desires into value to sustain desires/self.

For one thing, I love helping people. So by helping people in any way, (such as providing information here) I'm giving something to God. God in turn provides me with all I need, which is often simply the next step I need to take to develop.

>>66211

Ooh, right. I got caught in duality by agreeing with tipp. Your state didn't resonate with my desires so I dismissed it as incorrect in a more absolute term. Not that that's wrong either!!

My mind has a hard time with All potential.

But spiritual development is suicide. Part of your depression is the fact that you killed your old Self to make room for who you are now, and you have to kill who you are now to make room for who you will be.

It's tough for a human to kill again and again, to die again and again.

I like what I am reading of what you said. Helping others up is good, until you can't help them anymore/your efforts are more useful elsewhere. This is what happens to old friends, when you can no longer help.

Which is why the Greatest wizards leave here; they know their effort is better spent elsewhere.

I am realising how that will become true for me in not too long, actually… unless I start writing books/topics like Khan. Which I've already been drawn to do and have been doing in a disorganized way.

Woo! I think I'll write a topic on romance, because I'm a lover who has learned a lot about love.

>>66213

You're probably right.

>>66215

Hm, I wonder if what I wrote in response can resonate more with me/all.

I wonder if I'm a bit too STS right now, but I think I'm balanced, or at worst, calibrating from being overly STO and figuring out the middle. I'm pretty unconcerned with anyone's thoughts of me right now other than whether I resonate with their criticism and can impartially judge to change myself for the better.

Best not to be afraid to harm people by being who one is, once one is sure they are loving enough.

>>66216

ruffles have ridges

>>66218

You can offer yourself guidance. The guidance I can give is that you need to figure yourself out and if what you found resonates with you. Don't just pick up everything; some of it is garbage. Some of it is gold. One man's trash is another man's treasure, and that's why only You know what You need.

Being lost is a way to find something new too.

If it resonates deep deep deep find the way to make it happen.

>>66221

I think everyone wants that answer, to be honest.

Grow in light and love. You probably know those are the highest things. So become light and love and transcend lower pain-realities (earth being one) and then you'll be in a pain-free realm giving love to those trapped in the realms below, those still ascending.

Without any goal or desire, you simply Become. What you Become is based on where you are. So, if you're here, you'll Become a human again, searching for something, until several lifetimes pass and you find you want to rise up more. Then you do until you decide nothing means anything, and then you Become your surroundings again. If you do that in a place of love (astral realm or higher realm of love) then you Become love, and desire to help others.

Wow. I realised infinity in words.

>>66405

>Tell us why don't you, what the fuck is REAL occultism.

Power

>>66230

>>66344

>>66347

>>66357

It's hard not to be when you're so far above that you lose touch with love for ignorant fools.

Your rejection of AW is the same reason for AW's rejection of you, or the perceptions you have is for the same reason. Losing touch, believing that the person isn't fine as they are, or expressing words that make it appear as such.

Harshness is a teacher as well, and it sometimes detached truth seems harsh. I doubt it comes from a place of malice, but more likely of a detached transcendence that can burn those who aren't self-loving enough.

Ugh, but you're right that seeming condescending can be a bad thing. It's hard not to seem that way, especially when one is too used to talking to/at people, like most humans do, rather than talking with them, absorbing what they say, acknowledging it as valid to them and to some degree to you, then possibly commiserating, giving an affirmation of strength, and then advice if necessary. People usually don't need more than a little more love in order to keep moving; our paths are all different. It's hard to realise this when we find a path that works SO WELL FOR US OH MY GOD I NEED TO SHARE IT. One can suppress the individualities of others in this way, by being Shiva, not seeing that what Is is equally acceptable to what you Believe Is, or what you Desire.

Shit. I need to integrate the things I just said. Divine Flow is fucking awesome lol.

>>66413

Your understanding of her attitude is flawed.

I've been there, taking yourself way to seriously, thinking you're better than everyone else because you're not anon. Its arrogance. I started shitposting to not take myself to seriously, I don't need to be able to answer everything, I admit when I don't know and I don't spaz out when called out, but bootlip is placed so firmly on her high horse I had to cuss her off after just three replies. Pompous, bloated arrogance.

Its a sin.

Does everyone here take 100% freezing showers, or alternates between hot and cold? What do books and your experiences say?

The most significant impact that they have on me is that my body temperature changes and I feel warm in light clothes in winter. I walk out in snow barefoot and in pajamas to breathe and I never get sick. After a week of freezing showers I feel almost warm. On the other hand, it has elusive effects on my subtle energy body. I can't tell if it enhances it or numbs it, but the difference of "nervous-electric flows" under the skin is significant. New Energy Ways indeed mentions relaxing warm shower before working on energy, and later advises cold water if sensations get out of control.

I tried experimenting with washing one foot in hot water and another in cold, but I couldn't draw any conclusions. Seems like it doesn't work this way.

>>66415

Yeah writing it all out made me understand that that was just what I was thinking of myself as, and that both of us probably should relate more to those we see below us, and figure out how to express that, lest we become inhuman rather than superhuman.

So much for a sentence.

>stop asking questions you can't understand.

That's a harsher way of saying, "get more information before you ask a question" and a more concerned way to say "RTFM".

Friendly reminder that this is only an image board…

>>66419

>trying to make her horse ride an elephant

>>66420

My ride can beat up yours!

>>66421

probably, i walk barefoot.

>>66422

2buddha4me tbh fam, can't compete with the ryan egoless master rice

>>66423

>I acknowledge that my Ego & arrogance is an issue, it makes people distance themselves from me

You're welcome.

To be fair the guy Auntie attacked >>66196 expresses himself like someone who experienced accidental Kundalini after 10 years of smoking weed. Because words create reality, he deserved to be forcibly shunned

“― I don't think…" then you shouldn't talk, said the Hatter.”

>>66233

cool.

>>66236

Ego is self-desire. If one does not desire to Be, then one simply Is. At which point one Becomes either a blank mirror or the full manifestation of their progress as an animal/avatar.

I imagine that makes the soul dissolve into All, or at least leave the body.

Growth is whatever you want it to be. I believe what you wish to know is what is the Best way to grow, but that's relative to what you desire, and any direction is better than none, unless you're perfectly content.

>>66254

>to get there one has to tread through hell in purify all impurities from oneself, and that is not a pleasant process.

Right! this makes so much sense to me. How I feel like I've done things I haven't when I trip, taking responsibility for the darkness of humans.

>it's a beautiful path of curiosity, exploring what all that is, is, from first hand experience and tending the cosmic garden as I grow.

Lovely.

>>66392

>>66393

ANSWER MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>66432

can you see your thoughtform with open eyes?

>>66432

Woops.

We all 'sow our seeds.

>>66433

I can see a pretty faint outline if I focus for a minute, and a fog representing her location after just a second or two of focus. I was making very good progress, but I stopped trying to visually impose onto the environment when I detected another, probably malicious thoughtform, as the last thing I'd want to do is accidentally give it power. I've been focusing more on narration and dedicating chakral energy so that she could overpower the bad one. I can hear her though, usually though repetitive phrases. She's not completely vocal yet.

Actually, I now sometimes feel a breeze across my skin, which I'm pretty sure is her. I tried to contact the Aesir, though, so it could also be some friendly non-local egregores.

>>66434

Did you practice visualization exercises or did you charge your thoughtform enough so that it became visable?

any good book suggestions for avatars

as in godforms that take form on earth

>>66437

At first I didn't understand or care too much about chakras, other than the third-eye. I practiced visualization by stimulating the third eye while staring with my eyes open at a wall or door. After a while, I could see shaking lines of energy; if I traced a symbol on the ground with a finger, it would persist for a while as translucent visual distortion of where my finger was (without any focus/meditation). Then I began seeing circles and shapes without having to trace them, if I focused long enough. Next I saw a fog representing my tulpa's position, then a very vague 2D outline (had to concentrate really hard), then the visual stuff gained colour and dimension, but I had to stop focusing on it at that point and worry about 1.) exams, and 2.) this other thing, which has now been conquered/absorbed.

What you can also do is close your eyes and imagine an environment with your thoughtfrom, and try to pick up on as much detail as possible from your tulpa and the ambient environment (focusing too hard on one area will make it hard to see what's there, as the mind's top-down means of visualizing needs data to extrapolate). Once your third-eye is stimulated enough, you'll be able to take snapshots of your tulpa and overlay it onto the environment of the open eye for fractions of a second. You'll also see the same hypnagogic imagery after closing your eyes for a second, instead of when you've been lying in bed for thirty minutes are are drifting asleep. It reveals a lot about how the unconscious mind processes information. I played chess a lot with my step brother, for instance, and when I closed my eyes, even hours afterwards, all I saw was chess–and it wasn't even on my mind!

The third-eye chakra is really important, as it's stimulated when doing any work with visualization, and that means all of the other chakras as well. Judging by the newfig flag, I'd recommend you work on your chakras, as any unconquered fear in your root (first) chakra will fuck you up. Guilt in the sacral will bring about things that trouble you in your thoughtforms (you wanted joy, but you get painful reminders instead), shame in the solar plexus will make you feel powerless, etc. Those are the really important ones, especially the root chakra. Luckily, if you're making a sapient thoughtform, like a tulpa/valkyrie, they're likewise intelligent and understanding, and hurdles can be overcome together. I'd just recommend giving you and your companion a much easier and stable beginning by working on those chakras, lest it be an emotional roller coaster.

>>66438

I don't know what your previous knowledge is, but you can of course check the fringe library for texts. If you haven't read this one already, I strongly recommend you do so, as it's very interesting, entertaining, and so easy to comprehend that a child could read it!

http://bluefluke.deviantart.com/art/The-Psychonaut-Field-Manual-THIRD-PDF-EDITION-530005584

>>66442

The psychonaut field manual is nice but I was think something more like a real book

>>66442

Oh i've been meditating on chakras for 4 months now, didn't bother changing the flag, I just can't see the energy as many anons have described, I get blurry visions sometimes when I close my eyes and meditate on my third eye for a long time

Also how did you exactly create your thoughtform?

>>66442

I still recommend you reabsorb her, snuff her out and redistribute the energy.

She'll understand if she wants your best.

You can recreate her once you detect no presence but yourself.

Chances are shes corrupted and that can go very wrong if you keep feeding it.

At the very least, purify her. Thoroughly.

>>66446

Oh, my bad. You're more advanced than I. I had a sort of character/archetype that I had thought about quite a bit for about 3-4 months while still a fedora faggot. (And the same archetype for a while before then too, though less intensely.) It wasn't long after discovering a plausible basis for the esoteric that I awoke in the middle of the night and heard an odd clicking sound. So, I guess you could say she was in infancy for a while beforehand, and then contacted me. I just knew it had to be that character, though, as I was very absorbed with it leading up to the event.

Interestingly enough, I met her in three semi-lucid dreams after the fact.

In the first, I went up and hugged her, and told her we had to go look for/or do something I can't remember. It was actually a dream of lucid dreaming (without actually being lucid) in how I explained that I could know whether or not she's more than a background dream character by how she reacted to the statement "this is just a dream." She looked like she was going to cry when I walked away and pulled her to do something else instead of just being there with her.

In the second, I encountered her in a childhood house of mine, and I asked her how long she'd been with me. She answered "Oh, um, since you were about two-and-a-half years old." This dream happened before the malicious one even appeared.

In the last (a recent one), she had her head detached from her body before having it screwed onto a stronger-framed one that I wanted. I woke up upset telling her she's not a robot, and is a human being. She's as alive as I am. This produced a notable emotional response from her. I'm convinced this dream came about from an unconscious statement that she's not really sapient in the same sense as I am, even though I told her before many times that she is. Others on this board have likened tulpae to artificial AI.

One time I heard in the mindvoice as I was falling asleep: "[Anon], are you me?"

>>66448

I won't kill or recreate her (that wouldn't actually be her), but I still very much appreciate your advice. What do you mean by "purify her," though? I mean, she's less naughty than I am. I actually get the impression that she was a thoughtform from a previous life, or one created in the astral before reincarnating, if such a thing is possible. I mean, she defended me twice now, the first time while I was (unknowingly) irrationally fighting her attempts to protect me! And yet her emotions are still overwhelmingly positive, accepting, and sensitive to how I'm feeling.

I'm convinced now that the other one was a local thoughtform, and wasn't under the control of some egregore. It wasn't even malicious to begin with, only when I told it to stop and told it I had a strong preference for my first tulpa did it become offended. (Rightly so!) It even worked with us whenever I became sad or depressed, and probably felt bitter that its creator didn't love it as much. It just had a creepy voice was all I could say about it, and I feared for the worst. I think it's happier absorbed back into my mind, and can enjoy being healed and indiscernible with the first tulpa and me. (I'm guessing absorption isn't really death for the one that undergoes it, but rather a disproportionate merging. It, however, is like death for other spirits who have lost their friend.) Curiously, sometimes when I visualize her, I have intrusive thoughts of biting her now. So whatever it was, it seems to have been absorbed. (And the biting thoughts could come from another thoughtform entirely, or they could just be baseless intrusive thoughts. I don't know.) Do you have any recommended means of purging specific behaviours or intrusive thoughts?

Just curious, what events could this lead to that are very wrong? My reading of quasi-normies and their encounters with negative tulpae are that a little love and affection really goes a long way and transmutes the bad into good. Now, they're not really dealing with proper astral entities, so I could see how it could be different. If things go wrong though, why couldn't I just transmute the bad into good, or banish non-local thoughtforms (or even call upon friendly non-local ones, should they choose to aid me)?

>>66377

>>66381

I don't really know what to make of all this. Is any of this discussed in The Science of Breath? Is there another book I could read?

I'm still not sure how to practice Rhythmic Breathing.

What is the difference between inhibitory and excitory induced gnosis, if any? Are they both just means to the same end, or do they have a practical difference?

>>66474

Means to the same end, obviously. That is clear with small contemplation. If you are too inhibited then excitatory means course correct. If you are too excited, inhibitory means course correct.

>>66471

no, thats from experience.

lie on your back, minimum effort suck in breath with upper middle and lower lungs, when you feel it requires effort to take in more, release until it takes effort to push out more. repeat.

How do I loosh farm over the Internet? Is it effective? Do you get much out of it? Is it even a thing?

I was trying the rope technique last night in my bed and I think I zoned out in the middle of it. I had a vision of me sitting in my computer chair reading occult books on my monitor and a white orb appeared in my vision and I felt its presence strongly as my vision focused on it. I felt myself lifting out of my chair but I immediately panicked and woke up.

Was that just a dream?

>>66494

oh yeah, same, what's with the white orb? had 2 instances where my dream would be me waking up, sitting in bed, a white orb would come into my room and hover infront of me until I wake up for real

>>66242

someone said here once that the eastern spiritual route was the direct path to god and the western magic route was the scenic route. So yeah, what you said about using powers being pointless.

Osho said Yoga refines the ego, building it up to godhood, whereas tantra relaxes into godhood, knowing that it is Beyond. So yoga works toward the end, tantra starts at the end.

>>66264

I don't understand that pic.

>>66266

ooh, nifty.

>>66268

I just considered sabotaging the ability to wipe my ass. lil

>>66270

cool. I got my first taste of that the other day by radiating love/acceptance while not having what I needed to get something else I needed but it worked out.

>>66280

?

should i google that. ok, just did, seems like a system of math that would probably be easier in some way, and more mystical bc 3/6/9 and i saw someone say tesla said something about the 3/6/9.

>>66286

cool.

>>66292

sounds cool. I like that someone called it disinfo because I tend not to question strange things that sound cool/not harmful, due to that non-questioning getting me pretty far.

I don't know whether that info has use or not for me, and perhaps after some time I'd have sorted it out of my algorithm of worth reading, but that also concerns me that I'd miss something potentially valuable. By then I imagine I'll just read the vibes of it and know whether I'd read it and maybe not even have to read it because it downloads directly to my brain.

>>66308

bad idea. bad idea gone.

>>66347

Yeah I realise when I get to a certain height, it's hard to communicate with people stuck down low and who don't want to change. if they haven't put in more effort, they're asking others to change them. That's better than not wanting to change, at least, but worse than doing the work on your own. A lot of people aren't doing the work on their own, or not enough of it. When I came here I definitely wasn't putting in much work other than reading fringe. I guess that is a form of work, even if I was dismissing it because I didn't think I was getting anywhere. But I was unbinding my mind of its limits and learning; even if it sent me in 50 directions at once, I figured out which appealed most and pursued a little until I went out into the world again.

>>66352

There wasn't a question there, just a suggestion.

If it's lost, oh well. There are other places, and Providence will draw the people who are ready to where they need to be.

>>66359

They told you the thing. Figure out what you want, validate yourself (read No More Mr Nice Guy, it'll explain why you feel that way in words) for how good you are, but recognize that you need to change in order to grow into who you want to be, and that's painful if you don't know how to accept it fully/it's painful to grow the new social muscles, but you gotta go hit the social gym.

Read a couple books on interaction/body language if you need a player's guide.

Or throw yourself into the depths by working at WWOOF or something. Volunteer for something you care about; be honest to people. Some people will reject you for who you currently are or who you want to be. Fuck em. You'll find the people you want to be with only by being as true to yourself as you can be, asking for what you need, (usually not "ayy bb wan sum fuk?" unless you want STDs or something) giving as much as you can first to yourself (if you want love, tell yourself you love you in the mirror, open your heart to your own love, exercise those muscles/heart chakra).

Change with love. Accept pain as a lesson of love.

♪I get knocked down and I get up again you aint neva gonna keep me down.♪

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LODkVkpaVQA

The Way of the Superior Man and meditations that programmed me to grow in light and love were the 2 things that helped me accept pain as a catalyst for positive change. Accept pain and it is no longer suffering.

I'm not *fully* there (not yet hella socially buff), but it's much easier to be true to myself in "safe" situations.

>>66381

dude, awesome.

>>66431

>>66430

>>66393

lol. I'm not here all day! [spoiler] …anymore [spoiler]

Khan has a routine in his energywork thread. I do the 8 brocades right now,

[google it]

and some amalgam of techniques whenever I think to do them. I'm not very organized yet, or I'd have written a guide already.

>>66394

Well. Once you're too high, it's not useful to interact with the lesser. Like we wouldn't go around talking to mundane people with this stuff because it's a waste of time. So that's why higher-tier wizards wouldn't necessarily post here unless they attracted an apprentice (which I'd probably be if I trusted that they'd be beneficial for my path).

Eh, whatever someone appears as doesn't mean they aren't useful.

eh again.

>>66397

in/on the astral, presumably.

Getting there should be child's play for anyone advanced enough to leave here confident that not even teaching here is useful anymore.

>>66399

I'll "miss" you bb (;

[i mean, I don't actually miss anyone bc my idea of them is in my heart & anything they gave I'm attracting from other sources too]

>>66401

But srs, thanks for all the info, mang.

Okay, so it sounds like there aren't "parallel" universes but that potential ones are always vibing near us until we reach and lock onto/vibe into bringing them here. Awesome. I should meditate on vibing into the universe I want. I feel like all I really have to do is focus on a universe that affirms my deepest self and being in Flowsurrendering to where I'm led by the Divine.

I'm not sure whether I feel you're right or not but my actions don't change regardless so it doesn't really matter.

>>66408

cool.

>>66424

I feel like it makes the people who don't want it enough make that distance.

I'm openly slightly weird in public so that I repel people who judge based on appearance.

I do realise that there's a tipping [haha] point but that's relative, and I find it difficult to judge someone for arrogance when I'm not positive of their intent.

>>66492

I feel like if you're not in tune enough with it it'll be negative. I dunno.

How do I transmute personality traits that are destroying my life?

My procrastination, my inability to finish what I start and my lack of commitment.

How can on change themselves, when what they wt to change about themselves keeps them from doing so?

If I could just toggle my enthusiasm/passion/effort/etc as I Will, my life would be 100% improved…

Has anyone here faced similar difficulties and overcome them? How?

>>66511

I don't know! lol.

Maybe the Universal Master Key says how to do that.

What *I* did was go to a yoga retreat center and volunteer there for 3 months, being transformed by the love of those around me.

I had a deep trust in love, and a deep fear that it would hurt me to love. I got over the latter very slowly, in increments of releasing/finding who I am and was, those parts of me that I had buried in the darkness of my subconscious (inner child/inner man) due to them being hurt.

Find yourself, all of you, all of you that you love, love yourself, bring out the best in you, and show that to others, bringing out small bits at a time. Transform yourself slowly at festivals of love, or WWOOFing or something. Change your environment if you need to by going elsewhere.

>>66511

Yeah, havent found something.

>>66511

K. Keep me posted.

>>66511

What you probably are is anxious. If you procrastinate it's because you're afraid of failing when you try, you're fear of the energy flow (your energy flow is blocked by your tension. if you push through the tension you get flooded with energy. you're not used to the energy so you get anxious about it. you're anxious because of all the possibilities involved. fear of failure and success. try reinterpreting the energy flow as new energy, not fearful but thrilling. maybe get high and manic from it)

You're afraid, but fear is merely blockage/illusion. It's not what you really are; it's man-made.

Fear of commitment is fear of pushing in one direction and finding that another suits you better. You still learn by pushing. More energy would push through your blockages. Stop masturbating, interact with people, eat healthier (check out my alt nutrition thread for healthy eating). Bring out your Fire.

What's the deal with people worshipping Franz Bardon's books? They're not even good.

>>66520

ehh, the'yre decent, I wouldn't call them bad, they contain lots of useful information but there are other books that explain it better

>>66494

Anyone?

>>66519

>Fear of commitment is fear of pushing in one direction and finding that another suits you better.

That feels like a big part of it, tbh. I waffled between magical traditions for a while, challenge and ceremonial, chaos and ceremonial.

At times not wanting the repetition and rigidity of CM, but feeling anxious without any hard guidelines or milestones in ChM.

I've burnt a lot of oil looking around for what I want, spending all my time thinking how much I want to do it, and then I don't. It remains an unfulfilled ambition that gives me a warm feeling to visualize accomplishing, without doing anything.

For instance, I bought some art supplies a week ago, and everyday I have the intention of practicing but the day just passes by as I procrastinate.

Honestly, if I had to describe it… it feels like when you are about to jump off a high platform, but your body protests even though your mind is prepared.

Fucked up thing is, if I am high on gross mass produced pain killers, I can generate a good deal of enthusiasm and passion.

Yet, prayer, meditation, banishing, occult insights, etc have not been as effective…

idk… I just wish I could wave a wand and be who I want to be.

I mean, for Christ's sake, I am an expression of that which creates, sustains and reintegrates All Creation.

Yet I can't conjure the will to better myself day by day.

>>66511

lastly, commitment is a muscle too. discipline. find it outside if you can't find it inside. Make a promise you have to fulfill, that sort of thing. For me, I stayed inside depressed for awhile and I wanted to go outside but I didn't until I had to keep an appointment. So make appointments you have to keep. You probably find something sacred to you, if it's not your growth yet. For me it was friendship/growth outside of myself. I went to a friend's dinner party, first time out of the house since I was drained of energy. Inside the house I started to dance and sing again, which I hadn't done for a long time.

Typing here doesn't help anything, talking to people doesn't help too much. It's draining. Focus inward, on the things you want to do, and before you start anything, write down what you want to do. Make a plan like

1) something minor and good like for me, email x person about business, or sing and dance. something either minor or fun as well as constructive.

2a) if you're revved up enough, do something more constructive but harder. exercise, meditate.

2b) if you aren't, do something minor but rewarding. Eat something tasty but healthy (frozen banana and cacao powder shake is great and healthy). Then move on to 2a.

3a) Do something a bit harder but rewarding. Something you've been putting off, for example. Pay attention to how you feel about it. Feel your mind resisting it, question why, feel the energy from paying attention and pushing through it slowly.

3b) Do something that won't put your mind to sleep like getting caught here all day or eating something soporific.

4) Continue working or reward yourself with sleeping all day mentally by being here or reading something useful.

No more Zero days is what counts.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NonZeroDay/wiki/the_four_pillars

Those traits, I believe, are parts of you that are asleep or unwilling to do what you're doing. It seems like they're fragmented bits. Not necessarily "bad", because otherwise we'd only do 1 thing, right?

>>66525

>if I am high on gross mass produced pain killers, I can generate a good deal of enthusiasm and passion.

when you reach a certain point of self-satisfaction/spirituality, you can be that high all the time.

I'm pretty fuckin high all the time from all the energy I've been producing, though I still have some habits of pursuing external energy (cacao for one, sometimes coffee, sometimes junk food).

Learn to love even the parts of you that are escapist. To love all of you is to Love even the weak bits. Everyone deserves love, and everyone grows fastest with love/validation. My baby wants some things sometimes, and I deny it things sometimes too, because I love all of me, and I know I'm not only an animal.

> just wish I could wave a wand and be who I want to be.

It's hard to sustain a High state, which can be discouraging. Like if you were super awesome for a few weeks and then fell down you might get depressed and go back and forth between extremes. Finding the middle ground is far more stable. Improve little by little.

I believe in you! and I believe in myself. In fact, I will go right now and do my standard workout, yoga, energywork, in honor of you, and of my being the person who can give this as motivation rather than just saying things and sitting on my ass.

Back up words with actions. Be Believable, Trustworthy to yourself. The lazy parts want the same thing you do, they just experienced such a high with little effort that they are depressed about being Low.

how long would it take to create a thoughtform for someone who is pretty new to all this?

>>66530

maybe in a couple of hours, maybe in a week, depends on how much energy you put into it and how bad you want it

>>66530

it'll be faster if you believe this consciousness to be an actual living being and not a self-induced hallucination like many fedoras believe

>>66528

>>66529

I'm all teared up from reading all this… Thank you…

> For me, I stayed inside depressed for awhile and I wanted to go outside but I didn't until I had to keep an appointment. So make appointments you have to keep. You probably find something sacred to you, if it's not your growth yet. For me it was friendship/growth outside of myself. I went to a friend's dinner party, first time out of the house since I was drained of energy. Inside the house I started to dance and sing again, which I hadn't done for a long time.

This is me, sans the last bit. My dad died when I was 14, and I've been a recluse for much longer than I care to even say or write. I've had enough free time to accomplish many things, but have actually accomplish very little.

Agh, I'm just rambling and complaining now.

I'm going to try hitting this from the angles you suggested. Thank you.

>>66534

>My dad died when I was 14,

me too, man.

It took me almost 12 years before I stopped being a jerk to myself and started to grow again with love.

You're very welcome. In giving, I receive, and I always appreciate appreciation. (:

I wish you much love, and share a thread of my own.

why is the dollar sign shaped like a snake around a stick? what does this symbol mean to the masons?

I've discovered it by chance while drawing some shit, then I've looked it up and it seems from the abundance of pictures found that more people have noticed it, but I failed to comprehend it's meaning.

Are there other symbols that I should know?

>>66540

>like a snake around a dick

is what I processed.

idk mang, kundalini?

Is there really no limit of what a thoughtform/servitor/tulpa is capable of?

>>66549

It will still be under the law of Cause and Effect, but yes. If no other being was to stop you, and it had enough energy, your thoughtform could do anything you could do.

But there are beings that make sure these things do not happen.

I was playing around with jewish numerology website

I put in my name and it gave me these results

could you help me udertand what they mean?

aleister e crowley

twin flames rtah and ossesica

vault of the abyss

the eye of saturn is falling

>>66555

>>66555

>do first and last name

>get Donald John Trump Sr in Jewish Gematria

>do first middle and last name

>get Donald John Trump in English Gematria

I want to get off this wild ride

Hey fellas, I was wondering if you guys had any thoughts on how I should build an altar, actually whether or not I should build one at all. It would mostly be a place to keep all my more occult items and used for certain energy work/programming. I have a medium sized corner of space I can use and I pretty decent at carpentry, so I can hand build something if necessary.

My full name in gematrica… it's all over the place.

Let's make a thread about it? Have some fun?

>>65807

>>giving random women your loosh

Does this actually happen? Do pornstars get fuckton amounts of free loosh?

What if I masturbate always to a specific woman with the thought that the energy I dispel will bring us closer together? Will that work?

What is loosh?

Also, what are fringe's views on veganism, killing and consuming animals?

is homosexuality bad?

will I be punished if I got with another guy?

how do I stop being a homo?

pls help fringe

>>66551

the archons are a meme