/fringe/ - Fringe

Ah dear, someone messed up my GET.

>BARDt

>t. Bardon

>>67442

As meant for the kundalini anon, not sure if it even posted in the first place…

>prepare for it

Fast, purify yourself (don't skip on that one, if you do, know that you are taking the huge risk of messing yourself and crawling in agony to the cleanest t-shirt around to roughly clean your ass while receiving unbearable amounts of pain, it's not pretty….) and be sure you are doing it, for reasons that will benefit you, since these reasons, whatever they are, will manifest and affect your whole life, at all levels, pretty much, for ever.

>what should I do if something goes wrong?

Pray & pray again.

You don't want to do anything, whatever happens to you, better receive the consequences of your actions as soon as you can, delaying it will only make the matter worse.

If you realize it was such a big mistake and you really can't handle it and are ready to face these consequences, eat something big and fat, the mundaner, the better, spill all your loosh and do intensive physical excercise after that, even if you feel like collapsing.

You may also want to know that the "symptoms of kundalini awakening" on the internet are all just signs of minor awakening/nohing at all, I'm still not sure I've ever met annyone who had a genuine rising.

Don't fall for the meme. If you don't feel a serpent as hot as fire, the thickness of a can of coca-cola in your perinium, uncoiling itself and pushing it's way up through the shushuma, moving your bowels and your internal organs, and feel "the fingers" at your crown and the flash of white light at ajna you are not doing it, electric sensations in the spine does not equal kundalini.

Make sure you will not have to reintegrate any form of normal society for the 2-6 months afterwards. Actually, make sure you really have cutted all ties with society, you probably won't ever want to see them again.

Don't be fucking stupid, don't do drugs, of any kinds, shrooms or weed…

how could I increase my ability to see ether

>>67511

Use the gazes in jason millers sorcerors secrets

since every meditation thread here was shit any none mentioned gem meditations, im gonna ask here.

how would meditating with quartz go? do i just place it on my 3rd eye and continue normally? do i focus on it? do i dosomethign different? also , would it be better if it was manmade / polished quartz pyramid or pure natural quartz crystal? i need info on this asap, going to meditate soon and i would like to do it with crystal propely

Is it possible to make/go to a world where anime is real?

>>67534

kinda

>>67536

How?

>>67537

all youhave to do is kill yourself

>>67537

I mean with magic virtually anything is possible and there are infinite worlds out there and shit, but the most feasible would be for you to get real good at visualization and remote viewing, still though for you to seriously want this kind of thing means something is wrong with your life, how about fixing that instead?

Can keep creating tulpas and merging with them permanently to make myself more powerful every time? How?

Can i sacrifice a tulpa to pay/feed/summon a more powerful entity? How?

>>67532

I liked the meditations superthread. It's pretty good.

>how would meditating with quartz go?

Obtain crystal, clear mind, feel and be present. Until you know what to do just be still and observe what is. Once you have some idea what your feeling you can start to play with it and learn how it works and interacts with you and various parts of you. Not too hard.

I like to keep in in my hand(s). I personally like crystals in the raw, but sometimes shapes can be useful, second to raw I like spheres, however I have not worked with many other geometries.

Question: Do tulpas have a higher I AM like we do?

Can they ascend to higher planes as well?

Bottom line: Are tulps just like us but were created by us?

>>67539

I am interested in this subject.

what reading material do I need for it?

>>67557

>Question: Do tulpas have a higher I AM like we do?

Thought forms complex enough to have a soul are not easy to create.

>>67503

>>67494

>I'm still not sure I've ever met annyone who had a genuine rising

>except me then of course

How do you do it? Does it come naturally? I couldn't hope to summon this kind of contempt in people even when I would want to, trolling.

You offhandedly just declared that everyone here most likely haven't done what they think they've achieved because they're stupid and don't know better, and then decided to call everyone who have partaken in light "spiritual" drugs to be idiots.

You're just such a genuine asshat. You're literally that one kid in school always insinuating that everyone else is an idiot while making it look like you're doing them a favor telling them that they're wrong or stupid (with or without basis) so that you can strut around pretending to be a saintly miracle child.

In your head you're trying to put as much distance between you, a blessed genius, and everyone else, maggots crawling at your feet, so that you can feel better about being mediocre.

There really is zero redemption for you.

You're a bad person to the core, and you're to stupid to realize.

Nigger.

>>67575

>You're a bad person to the core, and you're to stupid to realize.

Wow you just described every namefig on /fringe/!

is astral sight the same as ethereal sight?

>>67577

Ether is energy

It's also known as Qi, Chi, Akasha, Ki, etc.

>>67578

ah thank you

What's all this double-helix dna stuff in the Book of Knowledge about?

>>67580

charles Darwin was in a hellfire clun and blazed it with demons.

he wasn't actually smart

can anyone post some good love magick rituals? ones that can work long distance with just a first name or online username?

It's time I seek help on this matter.

Recently I have come into contact with a fellow occultist that I knew in a past life, I knew her as well as her succubus in my former incarnation. She wishes to change her succubus, to attempt to restore her humanity and has asked me to help her do so. In my last incarnation, I was as well, a succubus. You'd think i'd be happy knowing that I was someone with some level of power, but I am in some ways disgusted by this. I have the resources to contain and take control over this succubus, and will do so. I have three choices as I presently see it.

1.Banish the creature into a realm she will not likely return (this may just be a delay)

2. Actually try to change this being, which seems insane at first, but taking into account that I was somehow able to regain humanity it doesn't seem entirely impossible.

3.Keep her bound, use her at my own disposal

I could use some wise insight on this one friends.

>>67595

"As above so below, as within so without". The outer world is a consequence of your inner self and vice versa.

Do you know how sometimes magickal attacks works?

We make people have bad toughts to bring doom upon themselves.

You look paranoid. Paranoids will only see and atract bad things.

Just look both sides before you cross the street, don't drink and drive and avoid talking back to angry people. You know, regular cautiousness. And relax.

>>67591

Paimon from the Goetia has the power to influence others. Look it up later.

But anything you make manipule someone's' freewill will probably backfire.

For example:

>Make "cutiepie98xxxPotato" call me

>40 yo man calls you.

>Make that cute girl from school in love with me.

>She has adictive personanity disorder or cheats on you.

Not really karma, but someone who is NOT atracted to you is usually not suited to you either.

Instead make yourself more atractive in general. Try to "Atract soul mate" or somenthing like that.

>>67595

Getting readings on half chan

Instead of going straight to the akashi records

Common is 2016 do you even occult?

No need to be disgusted. Not really a big deal. I saw some posts on a succubus thread about people wanting to become succubus themselves.

The term "succubus" doesn't always means demonic. Sometimes they are just astral prostitutes paid with loosh.

>"restore her humanity"

you mean this being was once human? And you consider keeping her bound to you?)

Human souls are very adaptable and volatile. Changing is not so hard if she wants it. But is it really necessary? There is nothing wrong with a being a succubus.

Also, if the succubus becomes human, then it doesn't make sense for her to be arround. It would be best for her to reincarnate to make some spiritual devepment.

My advice: Get her reincarnate as a human just like you did. Transformation will occur naturally then.

Tell her it will be for the best and stop hating on succubi.

>>67617

How to access the akashic records?

>>67546

But the power of a thoughtform lies in the fact it's part of you doing tasks independently from your conscious. When you absorb it back, you lose the very foundation of this power.

You can sell your internal or external thoughtform (part of you soul/identity) to someone else by granting them control over it.

>>67575

Bro, don't be mad, I just said, I was not not sure of it, meaning, it's an incredible feat and they are multiple levels of it. People I've met had prana/electric rushes inside their spine and thaught it was kundalini. I was onlly prooving a point, now what you are doing seems like a lot of psychological projection m8, kek.

Don't be triggered for so little, invest your jimmies into something worth it.

>>67612

You're right. This world is of little consequence anyways. I get so consumed in it that that's difficult to remember and stay relaxed sometimes.

>>67566

typically have to impregnate a female to do that

>>67615

Thanks, and she claims she was once human but a new development has been made, she does not want to reincarnate, she has been here before and doesn't wish to return. I know that she swears allegiance to Lilith, who I, for reasons of a past life, am not fond of in the slightest. I could use her to get to Lilith, of course I am not sure I could begin to take Lilith down on my own. There is great potential here and I don't want to waste it.

>>67643

stfu

Are there any IRC channels online where I can find fellow neophytes?

>>67393

Just read (well, speed read) all of these The Art of Learning

Do you perhaps know the significance of placing the point of awareness behind and above the head? The tangerine thing. The author of the book on Photo Reading derived it from some shamanic traditions, but didn't explain how it works. I'm not going to do rituals I don't understand or intuitively feel, it's pointless

>>67650

Tangerine is to trigger the "real" third eye. It also works if you place your awareness at the center of your head, or the upper dan tiens, or even at the brow center.

The tanguerine is a more throughout way to do that and not only activates the third eye, UDT and bindu, but also the cerebellum and the other centers of the head and above.

can succubi actually love you?

instead of just farming loosh.

>>67656

Can prostitutes love you?

>>67657

I can dream can't I

>>67657

well yes they can

I dream I die often in my dreams and I think I witness my own death because I don't wake up right away. Things usually fade to black as my vision goes away and I have these sensations all over my body like I am tingling or vibrating and I am actually dead and then I suddenly wake up from the dream? Wtf is this?

>>67659

When something is free, know that you are the product, so, ask yourself, what do you bring to the table?

>>67660

You astral projecting, we all do at the time of sleep, basically, your subconscious mind has to make up an excuse for these senstations, since astral projection is a lot like dying, you dream of whitnessing your own death.

Relax, and try to see the phenomenon for longer periods of time. By keeping this unbroken awareness, separation occurs naturally.

>>67664

I have love to bring

that is something I rarely even extend to my own family

surely that is worth something?

>>67667

Yeah, It's worth a lot! Especially when your unique source of "nutrition" is other people's energy….

>>67668

are you mocking me or are you being legit

I found there is a way to relax a certain part of the upper center part of my head and it gives a sort of euphoric feeling. It is like relaxing a muscle but there should be no muscle in that part and the feeling that comes with it is bliss.

Also this area seems to "contract" like a muscle tensing when focusing on some task. So one must be very relaxed to get this state.

I thought it could have something to do with the crown chakra but was not sure. Anyone know?

Give me something that's worth printing out. All the books I have would need heavy editing, if not for printability then contentwise.

And it's very bothersome to print documents only to find them completely a waste of time.

>>67670

meant for

>>67669

Note that, the card also gives cues on the male/female role in this "equal, mutual exchange, that is respected by both parts, on all planes.". Looking at the colors and the gestures, you can see that they both have different things to give and different roles to fulfill (the male is pointing, while the female is "judging") the third dude and the angel is only there to determine if the exchange/contract/love/marriage is worth it and seal it.

>>67671

The pineal gland and/or the amygdalas, it's not the crown, it's the third eye. Most of ajna chakra is inside the head. Your third eye is active.

Is there a way to summon goetia with no tools whatsoever? Just mentally doing it?

>>67676

ofcourse, check khan's thread on western magick and rituals

>>67677

Have you had any experiences with it you wouldn't mind sharing? Interested to hear.

>>67677

Have you had any experiences with it you wouldn't mind sharing? Interested to hear.

>>67671

>>67674

Well it is fun enough to just enter that state but is there anything practical that can be done with it?

Also why is there a euphoric feeling?

>>67680

Well, it's called ajna chakra, google it.

The amygdala (in the brain) is the center of pain and pleasure.

Are there any IRC channels online where I can find fellow neophytes?

>>67681

Googled it and did not find any information I did not already have but I gave it some thought and saw that this stage was the answer to a question I was thinking about for some weeks.

Just have to smile about how things can work themselves out like that.

>>67560

which subject? (:

but seriously, just do some healing on yourself and your life will become the way you want it to be. No need to go too far elsewhere.

Universal Master Key is supposed to be good for healing stuff I guess. I haven't read it yet tho.

But if you'd prefer to run away, that's up to you.

>>67622

google?

I wonder too

>>67691

>do you guys think I should drop these

yes. I have no basis for saying so, but yes.

>>67671

oh wow! no wonder my third eye rarely opens, my concentration-strain used to be constant.

and no wonder I started getting super high on spirituality.

>>67581

Fuck, I meant quad-strand helix dna, and apparently they even go up to 12 strand helix. What the salamander does this even mean? Anyone here go through with the dna activation exercise?

>>67581

Can you explain?

I believe I may have given a now deceased person cancer, unknowingly, is there any way to confirm this, and should I be worried for whatever reason?

How can I become more magnetic to people? Have people like me, and be more socially adept in general?

>No mundane answers please

Is there a problem with posting new threads right now? I'm trying to get one in except I don't want to double post.

How do I feed off of negative entities? One method would be to simply not care about intrusive thoughts, which is easy when you don't have thoughtforms running around that can get their feelings hurt.

However, if the principle applies that some entities can feed off your negative energy, what prevents you from feeding off of them? I want to feed from the fear of these negative entities. It is not enough to ignore them, I want to drain them and make them feel exhausted and miserable, THEN switch to positive feeling so that they'll go away.

If I can be afraid of them, then they can be afraid of me.

>>67741

Man, that's pretty. It so subtle that it stimulate the imagination. But fine enough to keep a form and general idea/ purpose.

So true with the 10 good pages hahah. What's up with that? I figure the occult authors need some income so they blow small up.

Anyway I should probably answer questions since I'm taking up answer space.

>>67714

Chi power my man. You need to start cultivating magnetism which is the mysterious feminine force that girls have which makes all men want to be around, protect and give up energy to a girl. It's all about the internal power of your chi and the strength of it. You need to take up abstinence or tantric sex and do naval breathing every day as part of your meditation routine. Try for at least 10 minutes a day.

Exercise 2 is to make an aura bubble with the intention that everyone loves you and is attracted to you (warning lol). Project out an energy bubble with your imagination or feeling and pour out the intention of exactly what you want. And to double up you can walk around with the intention fresh in your mind. You need to know that your intention is reality. Eventually this will manifest strongly.

>>67682

I imagine if you started your own you'd manage to find tons of people just like you. Especially on this board.

Try making a thread with the details. The more we work together and help each other out the better. You can even advertise in my threads if you want.

>>67676

Sure is. Pure focus and will along with an intention. Once you've done it with the tools you know the feeling and become familiar to it. Though I still suggest a sigil if you have trouble keeping focus or need a little crutch. Focus on that sigil, get yourself majorly tranced out and completely wasted while breathing into that higher dan tien. Absolute fuck yourself drunk with a trance state really getting into it. KNOWING that each silent or drawn out energy fueled chant of the name brings forth and gives energy to a beyond of insurmountable power and energy. Do it until you feel an energy within the room. To do this without tools means you simply do it without tools. Walk around in a circle, rock back and forth, spaz out, play a music piece or bake a magical cake while in an extreme trance lol. Do whatever you need to raise up the energy while focusing on what energy you want to summon (the demons name). I hope by now you see how free this kind of work is.

Hell. I tested the waters of alchemical cooking and managed to find the book of knowledge a minute after fried potato blessed with the desire to find wisdom and knowledge.

Here's a challenge to anyone to do a stupidly easy invocation. I want you to strip down to your underwear while invoking mercury. Start yelling gibberish while running as fast as you can outside in whatever residential area you live in(or do this somewhere more private. Or instead of yelling you can just breathe really intensely). Yell in your head continuously a mantra to invoke mercury like "I invoke Mercury, grant me speed.". I just want you guys to feel the state you get into. Totally give yourself to it. This will do two things. It'll probably open you up to a state which you've never really been in. You'e really tapping into another part of your mind by being wild and stupid. One that only really gets awoken through drugs.

personal love =/= unconditional love

What does it mean if someone doesn't remember their dreams?

>get yourself majorly tranced out

>rock back and forth,

>spaz out, play a music piece

In literature I encounter 2 contradictory types of trance. One employs complete lack of emotion, just staring in silence at one point like sigil. The second one mentions emotional high like listening to a song.

It's difficult to believe both lead to the same definition of trance, so 4-12 Hz brainwaves. The feeling is completely different.

>>67789

It means you need to work on your astral memory. It's not good or bad, just there is growth to be had in that regard.

How to explain this post on /pol/ https://archive.is/3TkKX ?

>>67807

nonsense

>>67844

Same conclusion

>>67648

>>67682

I've been looking for something similar, and there doesn't seem to be any significant existing channels for occult or fringe discussion… the ones I have found are either dead or Leddit tier communities.

To contrast the quality of discussion, here is the top post of all time on /r/occult: i.imgur.com/26IC8HR.png

Otherwise, I am fond of the idea of adapting this community to other mediums, especially during the uncertainty of our future here on 8ch.

Fellow wizards what do you know about Hu & Sia ? (no kikepedia please)

>>67851

endchan.xyz

better than nothing

can someone giive me the picture of Jiddu Krishnamurti with that epic quote - along the lines of adjusting to be normal in an abnormal society is disease or something. it really resonated with me and i remember seeing it in one of the big threads. was stupid enough to not save it :-( i can't even find the quote online now.

>>67871

Hu = Ardhanarishvara, the half-male, half-female Shiva-Shakti. The equilibrium between creative energy and consciousness.

Sia = Eternity of the union of the two parts of Hu. It's the "child" of the tantric union happening "inside" Hu.

Pretty awesome fucking stuff. The egyptians had it all figure it out before we got time to catchup with their grain storing technologies…

>>67880

He is the origin of the "first, divine utterance" the original, all pervading, omnipresent AUM. And he did it "alone"; since he is the shiva+shakti union. From that comes his whole "self masturbatory act" or "act of self castration" myth…

And Sia, being the "eternity" (eternal awareness) is pretty much the shiva part of Hu

And Heh is the Shakti part of Hu. See, the snake symbolism and pretty much the whole mythos attached to it.

>>67880

>>67887

Thanks. Who is worshiping them actually ?

>>67884

thanks a lot!

>>67887

can i interest u in answering this Auntie - >>67879 ? i posted there in hopes that u would see it but maybe u've moved on.

>>67889

Everyone, pretty much, they are classical archetypes of reality, without them, no universe, on all "planes".

It's the whole "great sikret arcana" of gender polarity. Shiva/Sia is the highest masculine archetype, associated to wisdom, eternity and consciousness and Heh is the highest feminine archetype, associated to raw creative energy

I have no idea who in ancient egypt worships who, but if you want to understand the whole dynamics of masculine and feminine energies, all of the tantric texts and sutras is about understanding and transcending this great duality. As an introduction, the kybalion has a chapter on that and I belive Khan has made a new thread and briefly touches on this great mistery, Evola had a book on that too, called the Yoga of Power, where he summarizes the whole thing, kinda. Pretty "armchair" books but they do deepen your understandings over these things and can introduce you to the concepts, fairly well. Evola is a boring dude though.

>>67892

Well first, don't exchange blood for one thing, blood is used for pacts, for a reason. From the point of view of the spirit and what should be your point of view, if you don't want to get played: t's a "long term, compound investement".

If you want one thing, don't be that one rich asshole who gives google stock markets share if you do a little something for him. It's not likely a spirit will accept a one time drop of blood as a form of payement. For all he knows, you could just run away with your, "red gold" and his efforts would serve to nothing. Just like that rich dude can give you a sound "do you really think I was going to give you google stock shares for baking me a pie?" and there is nothing you could do about it.

Same for down payements, the spirit will just go away with your cash if you are not going to pay him for his efforts in the future. If he can get a drop for doing nothing and another one at completition, which would take both his time and energy, his time and energy is not valued or cared for; he'll just go away with the first "down payement" qnd never show up again. Time is money. Everywhere. Giving your blood freely to annyone will just turn you into "that cheap crack dealer" on the astral plane and you'll get harrased, every day by a bunch of entities/blood junkies for "a little piece", your name is going to spread around and all of a sudden; no more entities require anything less of you then ten drops of blood. This also will give a hit on "astral economy", blood value gets down ans entities have a popular, alternative source of blood (YOU) an you are just ruining the whole thing for everyone.

As I said in that thread, don't do blood pacts if you have no clue of what you are doing, I don't give step by step instructions, because its a sure way to get deceived and to a certain extent, get messed up. It carries your personal energetical signature. Technically, an entity that has your blood or name, could have power over you, in the future. Just like you don't give your phone number or adress to annyone who asks, don't give your name/blood to any random entity. There is a magical name for a reason. They are other forms of payement for a reason too.

You want to treat these spirits with respect. Try to understand them, before trying to mess with them, that will save you a lot of time and trouble. Take the time to read "How to make friends and influence people" in a new light.

These aren't demons, the christian inquisition invented that name. Daemon in greek just means spirits. Some are more powerful and more out of touch with our-reality then others, that's it. You are dealing with real beings, respect them.

Do a bunch of normal evokations, khan has a thread dedicated to that.

If you want sigils for a particular spirit, go read some form of goetic litterature or any grimoire, for that matter, the grimorium verum contains the 72 daemons of the goetia, it's always a pretty solid choice.

Ask what the spirit wants as a payement; if it's too excessive or you don't have what he wants; well, do it like Trump, negotiate!

As above; So below.

>>67899

>magical name?

sorry I don't know much about magical dealings

>>67899

>stupid guy who downpayments blood and i won't give him what he askef for after taking his blood

well fair enough but how about a pact to make me successful at college thoughout my college life? that's a good enough pact i feel. also, new thing i learned - keep random magical name to give out when dealing with entities. i don't think it's 'good' that you're withholding knowledge but thanks for the help so far, i'll report back with results.

>>67901

>random magical name

not aunt

but if your doing dealings with the spirits wouldn't it be better to have a single alias to be known so you can build up a reputation with their community's

>>67900

It's associateed with the "magical personality". It develops with time and it's use becomes naturally obvious the more and more you advance, progressively, mastering and completing each steps you have before going to the next one.

Doing something, expecting to get a quick reward, right after the acti Is called the broke mindset, the get rich or die trying meme, it leads you to ephemeral results and, yeah, maybe, once in a while; you'll get rich thinking in those lines.

Now, if you would have the "rich mindset", you'd invest your time and energy, wisely on stuff that counts on long periods of times to get long lasting results. investing and having compound and exponential results on them. That's the key to wealth, something that lasts for generations.

There is a great, classical & cheesy book on that, but great none of the less: rich dad, poor dad. That's how you should approach magick and anything in life that counts for you. With doing magick, not reading; not trying; but doing and being dedicated to it, you understand the whole magical personality and the magical name mistery, better then anyone could explain it to you with words.

>>67901

I'm not "withholding knowledge".

What you are asking me is, "how do I travel to japan?".

So I answer, "well, it depends frolm where you start from."

I don't know where you are starting from, I really have no idea who you are, or what you did, where you live or if you know what an airplane is. So then, how can I give you THE perfect, accurate, step by step sequence that you want so much on "How to go to japan"?

What's the most efficient way of becoming a powerful wizard quickly? I have a lot of time on my hands, would like to make the most of it.

>>67906

demon worship

why is it bad to eat pork before rituals

So I did a few evocations but didn't feel presence in any of them. I still asked what I wanted and then ended the ritual. I did have some CEVs, but nothing that suggested it was a spirit since I repeatedly asked for who I evoked to show himself in my imagination but it didn't really change what I was seeing. What does this mean I have to work on? I've read that you can't really fail an evocation and I went through the process as confident as I could. Do I just have to keep doing evocations to build up intuition? Or are there other things I can do to build that up?

what's with all the cp spam on here anyway

>>67910

mods gone alot

>>67907

how about something more stable?

The only things I'd know about are meditations, yoga (both physical movements and bhakti, using your heart chakra to love everything you do and see), tantra (no idea where to go with that one), and qigong/energywork.

You'll need the mental will that most people don't have/train, though. Due to ADD/society/internet or what-have-you

>>67912

blood magic

>>67913

I forgot there was a thread about that and how it said one can be significantly more powerful than one would be otherwise with that.

I am somewhat interested, but think I'd rather worship Kali or something, along with the stuff I suggested here >>67912

since I'm looking for connecting with divinity and not really giving myself to other beings, or at least nothing other than doing the Will of Divine beings with whom I am already aligned.

I should go to temples more… there's a Krishna temple nearish me and a Balaji temple a bit farther.

>>67914

dude I'm just fucking with you

just invest your time in high magic or something.

but if you want to start somewhere just pick up a book on the goldendawn or some other occult subject.

>>67851

>>67756

An IRC channel has spawned. More info here:

/fringe/res/67916.html

how do I get advice on how to proceed with something?

How to hear voices in my heart better?

(should i look into the akash, ask my spirit guide, ??)

I want to know the "best" answer for somethings.

I'm looking to dive head on into the RHP and leave the LHP behind. The negativity of it all is just too much. Any tips?

>>67921

open your heart chakra by meditating on it.

Find love for everything around you. Give love to yourself by improving, then spill that over to others. I like giving people gems, and singing songs I can sing with love.

>>67922

Thank you for the reply. It will be a difficult journey changing my core beliefs, but I know I can do it. Do you know of any positive entities to work with by chance?

>>67757

that is a really good one to keep in mind

>>67923

there's one called Orin

>>67925

>>67925

So I looked him up and found that Orindaben website. Any experience with it? If so, did the meditations give good results?

>>67928

Yeah… I didn't want to mention that here, lol.

Definitely a path for the heart-oriented; it did wonders for me.

I'm not terribly magickal (can't see shit, haven't done or read shit, just imagine and do stuff and use divine will/manifestation "naturally" and on-the-fly/haphazardly as of yet (but am structuring and learning now). But… I definitely used it to learn how to love myself, trust, reprogram my subconscious, radiate divine love.

I also got a negative reaction when I used one of them with a less-than-pure desire, which is why I didn't want to post it.

>>67671

I feel something similar. It's in the top center of my head, almost at my crown. Flexing it flexes my neck and eyebrows a bit, and it feels like the motion a book makes as it's opened midway as it relaxes. Is that what you mean?

>>67931

>>67929

Much appreciated. Thanks for your time.

>>67706

Anyone?

What is the best entity in the goetia to render me incapable of all types of fear and anxiety permanently?

>>67915

what is considered high magick?

>>67951

bullshit "occultism"

>>67899

I don't believe you. Are you talking just about irrelevant fluff like synchronicity manipulation or actually changing stuff in the physical?

>>67953

at this point I don't get if it's a meme or legit critique, why do you think so?

How do I get rid of looping music stuck in my head?

>>67957

google high magick

Is the catalog a host for a botnet or something? Accidentally left a tab open with the catalog on it for a couple of hours and when I came back it was using 93 percent of my CPU.

>>67706

Magick requires focus. If I didn't intetionally tried to cause harm had very bad emotions about that person, you didn't do anything.

No need for necromancy.

>>67975

No, it's just mudslime cultist bullshit.

My old post got deleted and i'm sorry for that.

I don't know how to begin this post, and yes, I'm asking for help but it's not a question.

After the death of my grandmother 2 years ago i felt completely lost. She was my pillar. And only today i noticed that her death was the cause of what is going on now.

I was reading a old post here when i saw a link for a website about chakra, i never had interest on things like that but something told me to click and read it.

What happened was a shock to me, i was reading everything that was happening to me on the last 2 years.

The first was the Root: "An unhealthy Root chakra indicates a nervous person; a severely unhealthy Root indicates a very fearful person." exactly

The second was the Sacral:

"an unhealthy Sacral impulses will sublimate in many obvious ways, such as chronic tension, irritability, general and sexual anxiety, sexual confusion. Also, overeating, excessive drug use, and other forms of compulsive consumption. Such a person might feel the need to apologize for his emotions. He may have a clear and definite opinion about when, where and how an emotion can and cannot be experienced. He forces such rules on himself and possibly others because he does not trust himself to the care of his feelings." exactly again…

The third was the Solar Plexus and this one that made me to open this post, i don't know if that's possible but i was exactly what he said about a healty Solar Plexus and then (now) exactly what he said about the unhealthy. Some people have a strongest chakra? Here's what he said:

"An unhealthy Solar Plexus indicates a person who is unwilling or unable to let his personality be a reflection of the rest of him. He might rely on unconventional or shocking appearance to force others into making assumptions about him, essentially using others energies to form an illusion of personality. Similarly, he might make a point of associating himself with ideas, beliefs and doctrines, and advertising the fact, allowing him to tell his whole story in a few keywords.

He might focus on certain obvious traits, such as physical or mental prowess, in order to control people by intimidation. He may adopt a "mysterious" facade, to control people by intriguing them. He may feel so disconnected from himself that he compulsively tells lies, or stories, to compensate. He might just withdraw and become recluse."

I want tips to improve my chakra, links for pdfs, anything that can help me… The only chakra that seems that still working on me is the Throat. It seems like my Solar Plexus was my most healthy chakra and now it's the most unhealthy.

I'm 21 now, and no matter what i try, i can't get out of this reclusive state. I really don't know how to begin or where to begin, maybe i will need a step by step. Sorry for the emotional post too, today is not a good day…

The website about chakra that i read: http://www.veovix.com/lucas/

My bad. It was not deleted

Does anyone have that technique for getting books out of the astral and reading them?

I've searched through the catalog for all keywords I can think of relating to it and just can't find it.

I know the first experiments with The Protagonist were carried out on /4chon/ so maybe that's why there's no record of it here?

Yet I thought it was also reposted here in some thread.

>>67962

Become completely conscious and aware in the physical. Focus on the physical sensations you're hearing. Think of it like a filter. You're trying to hi-pass out the imagination.

What green pills, blue pills, red pills and such things means?

>>67997

lurk

why are elves socially backwards to humans

I wish someone would make a calender focused on moon phases, that's just a pic I made for myself, it's GMT+3

might look awkward, though it's the beast layout I could come up with, because, you know, we've got to check the days before a phase too

I need to get rid of my anger. I know how anger can be thought as too much heat in heart and i can physically cool my body with certain foods.

But my mind also needs help. What to do?

Hey /fringe/,

Can you recommend me some literature to get teachings into Meme Magick? Especially the manipulation of the material reality and the ability to influence the future through memes, and wet the panties of autistic girls at the vicinity.

Thanks

>>68010

ayy lmao, meme magick is shit-tier, start meditating on your chakras(preferably third eye the most so you wouldn't be so in the dark), doing energy work(check khan's thread on qi-gong), learn astral projection

In the meantime you could make thoughtforms and charge them so they would influence material reality, though that will take a bit of time and won't be an instant result, you'll need to keep feeding the thoughtform till it finishes it's work

>>68011

can thought forms ever be powerful enough to physically effect the world

like a stand

>>68012

yeah, though they're better at manipulating a form of matter over long periods of time

>>68014

They don't believe that thoughtforms of capable of it

>>68015

are capable*

>>68015

>>68016

thats a shame

>>68011

top notch post, this person gets it

Are there any spirits that I can evoke in order to get better at evocation?

Curious about moving physical objects as well.

Any tips?

>>68014

this >>68015

and a thoughtform has to be pretty powerful to move an object

Can someone recommend any entity to summon that can help me get fit?

better if it's a demon.

>>68033

Why would you need an entity in the first place? Getting fit is something easily done the mundane way, just go to the gym

>>68034

By your logic i don't need succubus, love pells and money spells.

You are right. I don't need it. But i really really want it.

I want to do that alongide going to the gym to boost results.

>>68035

Getting fit is so easy it doesn't even compare to finding love or a well-paying job, now I don't know why you'd want to contact a demonic entity specifically but whatever. Make a thoughtform with the sole purpose of making your gains better, charge it everyday, a thoughtform will work much much better if you believe in your heart that it's a sentient being and not an induced hallucination or just you changing your subconscious

>>68029

couldn't you just have it feed off of lesser entity's

maybe consume some husks like astral larva do

I feel like someone should put

>>>Magick is not a Magic Pill

in the sticky to prevent questions like >>68035

>>68039

It can definetly be one, but that would be pretty advanced

>>68039

Everything that can be labeled as "Service To Self" can also be considered an attempt to use magick as a magic pill.

Just trying to expand the variety of things i do for the sake of practice.

(and obtainging said things)

>>68037

I asked for demonic because that usually works better for me, As well as using a preexisting entity. And i think i already have too many toughforms to sustain.

If i make a generic "wish granting" toughform is it less effecient than one for specific purpose? I want to do a lot and don't to keep too many of them.

What's a good way to transmute lust? I'm on day 14 of nofap and I wasn't having any trouble until today.

I don't want to use sexual energy for anything, the reason I'm doing nofap is to practice self control. Powering a sigil or using a method to keep the energy like ankhing isn't what I want.

>>68033

>>68042

>muh demons

Stop relying on other beings.

>>68042

Dude what other thoughtforms did you need making? Usually when a thoughtform completes it's task I stop giving it attention until it dissolves

what is the "vault of the abyss"

>>68043

>a good way to transmute lust?

Transforming feelings onto other feelings is too hard. Seal it into an object. Throw it away but don't burn or destroy it.

Hold the object. Visualise all your lust going into the object. Manifest will on that visualization.

But i warn you not to keep NoFap for more than 3 months or find a real woman by then. NoFap can easily become an obssesion. And obssesion combined with fighting lust is bad combo.

>Stop relying on other beings.

Working with entities still has its merit and requires practice. The entity power is proportional to the magician that summoned it

Also I am mostly relying on myself, because that is how the chaos magick "meta-system" works.

For example to run faster I could invoke Hermes, Mercury(both the god and the comic book character), or freaking Sonic the Hedgehog. The merit is mine.

Demons work better for me at the moment. That's all.

>>68044

The time i had most at a time, was when I had a toughform for atracting love, atracting lust, astral protection and predicting the future. Most of them are gone now but i think i might need to watch out for that.

Want make just one for wish-granting.

what happens if you become too connected with an elemental group?

>>68051

That is related to "crossing the abyss".

It refers to point in the development of the magician where he obtains a ridiculous amount of power and understanding of the universe.

"vault of the abyss" is where all the knowledge and power is supposedly obtained.

But i think someone can explain it better than me.

>>68053

Just "conected"? Nothing. We are all somehow "conected" to everything.

But but depending on what you mean, your soul might morth into that element.

In the astral plane, you actually become an undine, gnome, sylph or salamander.(or similar to them).

some things get easier to do while many others get harder.

But human souls are way better.

(Changing the nature of the soul or changing the astral body is easy and might actually be useful tho)

>>68055

A place with all knowledge of past present and future could also be the "Akashic Records". It's like a cosmic library, but it's not really a place, as all information is inside everything (hard to explain).

Does anyone know more about it?

Can you use magic to change your genetics, for example removing harmful recessive genes?

>>67978

be willing to let yourself be transformed with love, and become a wanderer. I did WWOOFing and it helped. a friend of mine went to festivals and hitchhiked

>>67985

i saw it somewhere here but forgot, and now it's in the meditation thread, but probably you posted it there since that person was pleiadian too

>>67962

I like to either replace it with a different song and/or skip to the end of the song that's looping.

>>67997

green = yay, magic

red = SHIT, JEWS

blue = sleep

>>68009

no idea! maybe try the 8 brocades qigong, there's a thing where one puts anger into fists.

try turning it into love perhaps? and draw in yin energy bc it's cool. if you have too much heat you can put it into the earth. speculation abound.

>>68014

ZA WARUDO

what part of the animu is that from? the yes yes yes yes thing. I assume someone was attempting to see into his mind.

>>68035

you're doing things the hard/impersonal way. other People want love as much as you do; you can share it unless you hate them bc you're deprived of something.

>>68043

khan mentions raising the energy.

you can also output it creatively/artistically. Lust is sacral energy, energy of creativity.

wait, why not keep the energy? (you mention no ankhing)

Alright my question is regarding "cards of life / destiny" NOT tarrot cards, but usual playing deck having some personality tied to card. whats thisbullshti about? for 1 card there are 7 dates of births that share it, also it implyes that everyperson born on the same date is the same personality. Are they all fabricated so every card fitsevery person ? is there something more to it? redpill me on this

>>67909

please

So, how do I gain godpowers, or godhood? And how can I free my subconscious of all beliefs for magick?

>>68058

it was just connected with my name in jewish numerology.

at least I know things may get interesting for me

I have some problems with memory retention, or even attention when reading books. Any tips? That's frustrating

>>68087

Visualization. Use visualization to take mental snapshots of whatever you need to remember. Even visualizing words is better than nothing.

>>68088

Sorry, can you explain?

>>68079

>>68011

>>68091

Let's say you're reading a book about the Qabalah. It speaks of the four worlds. At that moment you'll want to visualize an image in your mind which shows four qabalistic trees with corresponding colours and elements. Or you could even think up four comical/cartoon style worlds. Think and remember in mental pictures. You can even visualize a picture of a camera snapshotting books and it all feeding into a brain or something like that to remember this.

How about this. Visualize each of these objects then do something else for a minute and see how many you can recall from bringing up the visualization.

Vase, dog, potato, fork, chopstick, water fountain, moon and box.

>>68033

I personally made my own thoughtform which represents every form of strength. A sort of Strength arcana thoughtform.

Anyway that's not all that I use for fitness, I connect to a great source of energy, be it for you the All, the Chaos Sphere, the Black Sun whatever to give me a boost for a tough set. I also activate the root chakra, tricking it to believe that my survival is at stake.

Above all though, your ass needs to go to a gym regularly to get fit or the loosh you spent on making deals with demons or creating thoughtforms might as well have been wasted.

>>68075

maybe ask in khans western magic thread

>>67943

Has no one done anything like this?

>>68108

this person

>>67968

answered.

>>68109

>>67968

Ah, my bad- but I did hate them and may have said I hoped they got cancer on some occassions, it was sudden, but only manifested after years of hate

>>68111

eh, I mean, even if you did it, you probably didn't know at the time and probably already paid for it.

Especially now that you're aware of it you'd probably have experienced the negative effect near-immediately after this awareness.

in my opinion. but that's how things would probably work for me.

>>68113

karma is a meme

>>68114

it's cause and effect. 6th hermetic principle.

besides that, yes, I don't believe in it too much

I get some sort of feeling sometimes. It's the kind of feeling when you're in a dream. I don't know how to describe it or make sense of it. I get it after watching anime. It's… i don't know… it's just a feeling, like i have something to express but i don't know what it is or i can't express it… like there are a lot of questions remain unanswered and a lot of stones remain unturned… but i can't point my hand on them.

Is it loosh? This feels more like an emotion but i don't know what it is, i've got it ever since i knew about my self. It's just a feeling.

How much time should I be spending on each chakra? I am moving downwards and it feels like my crown was already open. I'm going to start the throat today, and I've been doing a week on each. The way I feel that it's open is that my third eye and crown have a "dull" feeling, where I can just sense that they're open.

>>68118

Fulfillment? Satisfaction?

>>68128

actually you should meditate daily on all chakras, start for small periods of time if you can't manage and add more time as you go

>>68128

Indeed, they are no limits, there is open and OPEN, there is mastery and MASTERY.

The metaphor of the flower is a really good one.

The chakra blooms and blooms and opens progressively, when it reaches a certain maturity, it emits a scent of its own that becomes stronger and stronger with time.

>>68128

>>68129

>>68131

What is meditating on a chakra?

Visualizing it?

Putting energy into it?

If so, does it have to be a certain color?

>>68132

They are many ways to do it, do what works for you.

ever since I was kid I would see weird rainbow colors when I closed my eyes

anyone is there any significance with the occult?

The thread Renouncing Laziness: ( >>576 ) is not working anymore, how can i find a similar way to renounce laziness?

How would I go about regrowing hair? someone reply please. would be appreciated

i seem to be bouncing between anger and fear. How do i escape this? every time i encounter either one, i can only change it to the other one.

>>68162

Direct your anger at achieving something, use it a fuel to make yourself follow a spartan regime. You will feel strong.

Where can I find which tarot cards correspond to which Goetic entities?

"Many people expect their God to forgive their sins, but omit to forgive the sins of their God. How can they expect their God to forgive their sins, when they are not prepared to forgive the sins of their God."

http://www.viking-z.org/index.htm

So I understand heart chakra feels like heavy weight pressing on middle of the chest, that you experienced if you ever cried from sadness or joy at least once…

Third eye feels like tingling horn between eyebrows.

Sacral is sexual butterflies and horniness under belly.

But how does throat chakra, solar plexus and root feel like?

>>68176

Been wondering the same…

Everything is everything. Everything includes nothing but nothing is not. The all is the all. We are dreams living within dreams. Nothing matters and so does everything. Use the void and the infinite in tandem. You know a lot more than you think you know. ∞

“There was once a queer old man who lived in a cave, where he had sought refuge from the noise of the villages. He was reputed to be a sorcerer, and therefore he had disciples who hoped to learn the art of sorcery from him. But he himself was not thinking of any such thing. He was only seeking to know what it was that he did not know, but which, he felt certain, was always happening. After meditating for a very long time on that which is beyond meditation, he saw no other way of escape from his predicament than to take a piece of red chalk and draw all kinds of diagrams on the walls of his cave, in order to find out what that which he did not know might look like. After many attempts he hit on the circle. “That’s right,” he felt, “and now for a quadrangle inside it!”- which made it better still. His disciples were curious; but all they could make out was that the old man was up to something, and they would have given anything to know what he was doing. But when they asked him:”What are you doing there?” he made no reply. Then they discovered the diagrams on the wall and said: “That’s it!”-and they all imitated the diagrams. But in so doing they turned the whole process upside down, without noticing it: they anticipated the result in the hope of making the process repeat itself which had led to that result. This is how it happened then and how it still happens today.” pg.63

C.G.Jung(1959 or 1992), Four Archetypes, Mother/Rebirth/Spirit/Trickster, Bollingen Foundation , Published by Princeton University press, Princeton, N.J.,

>>68176

I've felt the heart chakra as my heart fluttering/having a hard time breathing for the same reason you mention I think.

I've also felt it as a sort of "muscle pain" when it cracked open/used too much.

I've felt my third eye in the back of my head open with slight pain.

I've felt the top of my head/crown feel open.

The throat to me feels airy. Like there's nothing there keeping me from speaking/breathing, though it also feels like if I weren't aware of chakras it I'd feel like it were hard to breathe.

Solar plexus… I've felt it be nauseous from others exerting power or from me doing something I didn't like (eating junkfood when in a high vibe, or just when I had a kundalini rising).4

Root… feels supportive/supported and strong to me. Solid. poop. There's one perspective. It's all subjective anyway.

how does one find the tarot card that represents them

>>68162

I feel like fear is a need not being met. Figure out what makes you fearful. I've read anger is a secondary emotion (dunno if that's actually true or not) so that it's only a result of another emotion.

So anger could be a result of your fear not being eased.

Both can be helped with qigong/taoist stuff probably. energy circulation, getting the anger and fear out of the relevant organs. Khan has a qi-gong thread with some relevant info, download some mantak chia stuff. Inner smile, 6 healing sounds would prob help.

>>68141

make one mb. go join a temple or ashram (:

>>68140

an oracle card deck about animals mentioend rainbow light signifying spiritual advancement.

>>68161

Commiserations.

As well as a sign of excessive DHT hormones, hair loss could indicate a period of intensive mental struggle, or overbalanced masculine energy.

It may help to regain touch with your femininity.

>>68192

>spiritual advancement

it must be fate that I walk the path of the magi

>>68198

We all walk the Path. Only some of us become aware of what it is tho

I don't think in words, images, or kinesthetic movements. I think in explicit unsymbolized thoughts, in pure ideas. I only managed to find about them after hours of meditation and some research.

Do you think there is any advantage to this in magic? Or perhaps you think this way and you found type of meditation that work?

In case it wasn't clear: When I think of concept of dog I don't hear the word "dog" in my head and I never see dog either, I'm just aware of what dog is for me. It's like thoughts made of pure awareness.

>>68224

that's how psychic communication works on the easiest level of doing so. also kinda "high". words are harder to transmit

>>68225

>>68224

regarding this, what does the higher plains "feels" like? Do higher vibrational entities comunicate in visual form?

>>68228

I don't actually know.

I've communicated in feelings, through looking at people's eyes and thinking things (basically allowing my eyes to move in certain ways that communicate certain things).

>>68225

>that's how psychic communication works

I'm hermit and I have no one nearby to try psychic communication. Any other way to utilize my way of thinking? That I don't have anyone is also the reason why I don't think in words etc. - because I don't talk with anyone. I can think in words but then muscles of my tongue tense and tip moves slightly, it's unnatural

I can "stop thinking" entirely any second and leave just awareness. I printed a page with one point and stared at it for an hour with no thoughts to check if something happens. Embarrassing experiment and utterly boring.

This unsymbolized way of thinking appears a bit useless so I'm considering focusing a lot of intention to start thinking with symbols, images, sounds etc. From what I understand, the ability to render a visualization of 3d place, person and invoke sense of smell etc. is all that one needs to expand. And being able to draw well would be a great side bonus

Comments?

>>68143

you can fuck but they will not inpregnate.

I have about 1 hour to make the most potent love spell ever.

Yeah, I know everything wrong with aiming for especific person. Don't judge me. I am doing it anyway

Please help.

>>68069

>Yes. And it's much easier that you may suspect. Simply will said traits to be gone, or to be there. Spend time each day doing this. Your soul, as it resonates through your flesh will alter/rewrite your DNA.

could you expand on this?

>>68129

I am using the book of knowledge as a reference, so I spent 10 minutes yesterday meditating. I imagined a small ball of light getting brighter and brighter until it only emits white and I feel heat on my skin, and then I felt it enter my crown chakra and grow larger, feeling my chakra grow open and spin clockwise during and after. I repeated this for all of my chakras going downwards.

Is this what you mean?

>>68243

>expecting fast results on a slow board

It's getting more and more popular, but don't expect answers in an hour.

Search "seduction magic" in the catalog.

>>68234

I'd try calling upon a spirit guide. One that is beyond duality, in light, that will assist you in progressing spiritually and does not impose strictures on how you do so.

I used to talk to myself when I was a hermit :\ picked up the habit from parents.

I wouldn't say that experiment is "boring". Thoughtless awareness eventually gets you to your center/navel/hara. This, as far as I know, is an important step to self-awareness, finding the answers within. Sounds like you intuited that meditation technique.

Besides that, sounds legit.

>>68243

no. I did that with someone who actually DID want me and it turned out bad. Bad idea. Bad idea gone. Now that you've told other people about it you can expect extra not-goodness (:<

not from anyone but yourself though (well, not from me I think), your problems aren't mine. You're either in love with your ideal of that person and not that person, or in love with the fact that you got a certain affection/validation from that person (which almost anyone can give you) that you were lacking from yourself.

She (probably a she) has flaws too; are you overlooking them?

True love is meeting someone halfway. Building a bridge of unconditional love in divine light, and meeting them halfway. They'll come in time, whether it be in one life or another.

If you don't look for a specific person, that allows the Perfect one for you to meet you. Happened to me 2 times, specific people to whom I was attracted and who were legitimately interested in me. The first time I screwed it up, and the second time too (cause I did what you were trying to do. I was less conscious about my desire being less than pure though/less conscious of magic being real) but the second one isn't over yet.

You are seeking something true in a way that looks false.

Just find what truly resonates with your highest truth, pursue that with love for the world/yourself/humanity/shakti (the way of the superior man is a good book on that) and she'll be there. If she's the one you want now, maybe you'll have to leave her for awhile so you can stand on your own (that's what's happening to me now).

>>68248

>Is this what you mean?

Yeah, I found what works better(atleast for me) Is imagining beams of energy flowing into the chakras

Is there a cohesive write up or step by step of Uncle Bearheart's planetary banishing ritual, and his MP, or any of his applied techniques.

The videos can get a little hard to follow since he has so much to say.

How to will my body into optimal shape?

Can i directly acess the Akashic Records to see the future?

What i the best way to see the future in your opinion?

>>68260

will yourself to work out

>>68248

>"Don't expect answers in an hour."

>answers within an hour

But thanks. i will look for it.

>>68249

Thank you for book recomendation.

Well as i said before i am aware of the consequences. I am playing with fire here but i know what i am doing.

I am not seeking validation and she has horrible flaws.

I wanted a love spell to see what would happen when i meet her.

I see you have a very good understanding of love. So why is it that you even care about failing to archieve it?

What you lack understanding however is that magick can only backfire if you think it might.

>>68262

I mean stuff like shapeshifting and manifesting reality.

>>68265

well most shapeshifting I know of is more of manifesting ether as a shell or a temporary vessel while if you want to change your physical body you might get a tip or two from the degenerates in the faggy girl/boy thread

what exactly are orcs?

>>68267

Read the books

>>68267

>>68267

Fungi you knob

>>68118

It's despair, you're doing something that is not taking you to where you want to be, it borders panic and leaves you depressed and empty, deep down you know that you're not doing what you should be doing but still allow yourself to wallow in distractions, time seems to lengthen and slow at the same time, that you should be somewhere else at this moment but you are not.

Your time line adjusts to you being absent, not reading this, not typing that, you feel hollow.

Rite?

>>68266

how exactly is that degenerate, you dipshit

>>68249

I have a question for you guys. When I ask you to count windows in your house with thoughts (or some other building you know, if you're homeless or whatever) how does this process go about in your mind?

Also, picture some building in your mind or other very complex object. Can you spin it around as if it was a render in 3D software? The room you're in right now, can you make the walls and objects wave as if you were in a ship, or rotate around you in random directions very fast or slow?

I'm trying to figure how my visualization works, because I'm slowly realizing there are at least 3-4 fundamental ways in which people perceive the world and they have to do with how their thinking works

I have an exam Thursday, but i feel like i'm getting a cold. I hope not a fever.

Can anyone recommend any meditation to heal myself?

>>68263

>I see you have a very good understanding of love. So why is it that you even care about failing to archieve it?

1) I see that you have a good understanding of not judging yourself. "So why is it that you even care about failing to achieve [the same from others?]"

>Yeah, I know everything wrong with aiming for especific person. Don't judge me. I am doing it anyway

[Probably because it feels nice to see ourselves in things aside from us. We like matches/mirrors. After all isn't this world just a mirror for god]

2) I'm probably overly-concerned with the business of avoiding pain.

I resonate with Vishnu/Narasimha.

I hope it turns out as well as it can, and that the both of you learn the boundaries you may need to learn, or how to transcend them in the best way. [I know someone who was in that kind of a relationship and learned her boundaries. She's the 2nd one I mentioned]

>>68285

holy shit dude. Lololol. That's how I felt when I'd distract myself with things like videogames. shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

I love you man. lol

>>68295

in my mind I walk or teleport to the places I know windows are and count them.

You guys? I assumed you meant to quote someone else too until I figured you meant anyone here.

I cannot easily spin something around, but yea, I can do that. The way someone perceives the world is probably due to their experiences/what they naturally "vibe" with, and the ways they've tried to utilize that.

So they can perceive it in a way closer to yours if they exercise that but it won't come as naturally unless they spent as much time as you doing that. (and who knows how long/many lifetimes you might have done that)

>>68306

I'd just meditate on gratitude for healing energy flowing into me and making me immune to disease until x point I need it. So I'd put it off because I figure maybe I should face that energy head-on later.

Dunno.

Probably shoulda posted this >>68303 question here, but I guess I'll just link it and if anyone cares to give it a read and reply they can go for it. yay for not realizing there was a question sticky

>>68310

>Isn't this world just a mirror for god

I dig that a lot. Clever

What would be the best way to increase intelligence exponentially through magic?

>>68315

someone said it in one of the previous threads, 15 or 16 I don't recall.

>>68319

I'm also interested in this

All in favor of disposing of Hanz?

>>68263

as tipp said on the other thread

"One last thing ITT, if you're learning the arts to have sex, you will not get it, the use of deceit and manipulation to sidestep freewill will do nothing to refine your persona, I suggest you stop this endeavour immediately and instead work on yourself, introspect, discover what it is that makes you unable to have a satisfactory and meaningful relationship built on mutual love and respect, that which you will find once you possess it yourself.

Save yourself months of failure and reach a point where you stand so secure on your own feet that others can lean on you."

>>68342

btw tipp ilu again.

"each a point where you stand so secure on your own feet that others can lean on you."

beautiful.

>>68319

Reading books.

>>68310

But do you actually see objects in color in your mind's eye or just pretend they have a color? When you imagine a cup, is it surrounded by blackness? How does your visualization of a cup relate to the cup in our particular consensus reality?

I'm asking these questions because I think the knowledge of how our mind's eyes work (the knowledge that we can obtain through comparison of our experiences) is of more importance than any occult material. Most assume everyone thinks similarly or the same, which isn't true. By analyzing the process of "how" instead of "what" we become aware of our personal lenses through which we see world. Awareness of one's own perception is profound knowledge, it tells you who you are. And you also learn the mechanics of how your allies or enemies could think. Especially enemies, because if you disagree with someone, it's because he sees through different glasses.

I can spin very complex buildings (even if I place my point of view inside of the buildings), I can spin whole cities and move my point of perspective with great ease but I guess price I pay for this ability is that I never actually see them. They're covered by blackness that I assume everyone sees after closing their eyes. There could be complex images in there, but this darkness is so thick I can't see, feel, sense, hear or taste them at all. Somehow it doesn't stop me from moving them in 3d space

I was send here by a man who offered me help when I asked about curses on /x/

Two men did something very bad to my family, and I intend to punish them for it. Severely.

I asked for some sort of curse that might do the trick, and a man told me to ask in this thread. So, can anyone help?

>>68358

Details, neophyte.

Be thorough if you want anyone to bother.

>>68358

>>68359

Two men, or I suppose boys (they're 17) molested my little sister. My original intention was to find something I could do to kill the two of them outright. Now I'm not completely sure what I want. I believe that I still want them to die, or perhaps just go insane. Yes, I am being openly malicious. Yes, I am willing to make sacrifices.

Now, can any of you help me find a way to curse these men?

I am looking into an Indian ritual involving the burning of Datura at the moment, but it does not seem promising. I'm looking for something more akin to the Chaos magic or Wicca that I am more familiar with.

>>68360

Proper chaotee practice involves a hammer to the back of the head.

Your sacrifice is, if you get caught, some time in jail and your anal virginity.

Which country, we're they immigrants? What relation do they have to you or your family?

How old is sister, how is her psyche, how did she tale it?

Got more sister?

>>68349

You see the color in your minds eye. It doesnt actually appear in the darkness. When you are visualizing you're inside of your mind. Trying to actually make the shit come out of the darkness is impossible.

>>68360

Why not have the boys thrown in jail? They are child molesters and will be treated as such by getting raped constantly and getting the shit beat out of them. That's how it is for them in jail. Why not instead of killing them using magic, just help your sister recover from it by using it instead?

>>68370

Was going to suggest this.

Kids won't get jail tho.

And unless I get to know more I won't vouch for killing them.

Energy spent killing them is better used healing sister.

Besides, future from there is either anon developing into a good murder wizard and the boys dying, or the boys living and achieving what they might.

There is also the issue with anon killing them and attracting karma.

And the part where sister was meant to be raped as it's something she had to experience in order to evolve, live, forget and maybe forgive.

Same goes for the boys, they better learn, or they'll be reborn into a daycare full of pedophiles.

>>68372

Absolutely agree.

Felling somewhat at peace now.

All exams are over, got a good first job, got rid of a girl obssesion.

Everything i could possibly care for myself in short term i either possess or is garanteed.

Long term will work itself out eventually.

I no longer see any need for magick.

Service To Others? maybe in the future

What's next?

>>68360

I agree with

>>68372

>>68377

>I no longer see any need for magick.

Enlightenment?

Magick is not a tool to get your mundane desires, it's a lifestyle choice. How can you live your life knowing the truth and not using it?

Hey /fringe/. Can anybody recommend some books for learning about curanderismo/spic/quasi-Catholic folk magic? Getting in touch with my roots, I guess

>>68370

>>68372

>>68375

>>68379

>>68377

Quote from my post on /x/ as to why I can't just call the cops:

>There's no real evidence of it happening. What is there to go on? The testimonies of a fifteen year old girl who's mind never functioned correctly to begin with, and of her older brother, a man who the community suspects of being a satanist, and who has more than a few bones to pick with the accused. That'll hold up in court, surely.

I even sat down with a friendly police officer, the one stationed to hang around at her school, and laid the information out on a "purely hypothetical" basis, and he said there was nothing that could be done.

>>68386

That last line was also meant to be greentext. Whoops.

>>68386

Say it with me

>I hope you life an interesting life

Ask God to give them their due.

Ask God to help your sisters suffering.

Pray with all your heart, forget.

Aside from that, wear a wire and confront them.

Trap them, make them say it out loud, present evidence to police, pray to a deity related to Law, Justice.

>>68391

>>68392

But that won't spare their families. It's one thing if your son dies of seemingly natural causes or a tragic accident, but it's another thing altogether to find out that your child is a monster.

I'd like their families to be at peace when this is all over, not cursing themselves and trying to figure out where they went wrong raising him.

And besides, the two of them deserve death far more than imprisonment.

>>68379

enlightment is vague.

I had lots of epiphany moments. One jut happened a couple of minutes ago.

I am probably going to use magick for other mundane things and having fun in the astral.

What is the point of doing it for anything else?

Fighting evil is a waste of time. People need suffering to evolve.

Maybe its nice to help someone in need but wont that be a bad interfearence on spiritual evolution?

I see no point on doing anything other than chilling as brown pill.

>>68394

Why do you feel their families should not know? It will punish the boys.

And who are you to be judge and executioner?

Is raping a mentally crippled girl equivalent of killing two able bodies men in their best years, denying any and all contributions they might make to society?

Argue your case.

You can make them drop dead if you know enough, but such knowledge comes only after gaining the wisdom to not do it, why should I or anyone else attract karma to help you take revenge?

>>68397

The only thing that truly matters (as far as Chaos is concerned) is belief. I believe that their families are innocent, and thus should be spared even if it makes things easier on the boys. I believe that I have every right to be the judge and the executioner, as I know enough to make those decisions where another individual would not be able to. I believe that they deserve to die.

That is all that matters.

As for your karma, I suppose I've been looking for someone that doesn't believe in it to come help me.

>>68394

Vengence "leads to the dark side".

You don't need to search much for ways of causing harm. But what will that gain you?

It leads to nowhere.

The worst part is that you might suceed, then be filled with emptyness.

Find love in your heart to forgive them.

Heal your sister and let go of the past.

>>68401

Light and dark, good and bad; it doesn't mean anything. It never has. So I don't care where you think I'm going.

>>68386

I'm assuming you live in the west, and in that case, it is basically "guilty until proven innocent" with rape cases. Make a big enough deal and somebody will hear. If you have to, say you'll go to the news if the cops won't listen.

>>68392

This

>>68394

>But that won't spare their families

They will be distraught, but they will later be glad that they knew.

>>68396

>What is the point of doing it for anything else?

You perfect yourself. You become as strong as you can in all ways, and you reunite with The All.

What are you doing is like saying "I needed to lift something big, so I got strong and I lifted it. Now I think I'm done with lifting"

Surely it would be a smarter choice to keep going in case you stumble across another problem, yes?

>>68397

>>68397

>Is raping a mentally crippled girl equivalent of killing two able bodies men in their best years, denying any and all contributions they might make to society?

Could somebody who rapes children make a meaningful contribution to society? The chance off that is practically 0.

Raping a child is something that speaks of an attitude of exploiting any weak or vulnerable people. This is what will likely continue to happen instead of any 'contributions to society'.

>>68399

I suggest you go back to /x/, we're all pacifist progfem new age Buddhists, we have nothing to offer you.

Well, except, depending on where you live I know a company that sells great crystals and incense.

Please go, your negative vibes are really off putting.

/x/ most likely has the answers you seek.

>>68404

>15

>child

Pick one.

A 15 yo female is ripe to breed strong healthy children.

At age 15, almost every girl is a woman.

>>68399

Chaos is very fun to play with.

But alone does nothing. You are stuck with the moral consequences of the system you are using. No system will allow a free vengeance.

I "believe" you are fool.

By the way i just casted a protection spell on the guys you want to kill.

>>68402

You are not "going"

you are already there.

Your hate is your peronal hell

>>68408

This, for whatever reason you've quarrelled with these boys, they most likely took it out on your sister.

From what you've written, you are lacking in spiritual development, searching power in magic for personal gain.

This attitude of yours seeps into every fiber of your life, you create enemies who want you I'll, because of your mentality you suffer through her rape.

Her rape is part your fault.

is Crowley's work worth looking into

how to filter shitposting namefags?

>>68403

Eastern United States.

If they never know, they will never be distraught over that. If they do, the parents will wonder where they could've gone wrong. How they raised such a fiend.

>>68404

This. How could a man like this do good? And if he did, how could it possibly outweigh the evil he did in his life?

>>68405

I suppose I'm off then. This place doesn't exactly seem to suit me, as I expected.

>>68407

If you are another "new age Buddhist" then I'm sure voluntarily protecting two rapists will be great for your "karma." It really is a lose-lose for you though. Help me, and you did something terrible; protect them, and you did something terrible. You chose the lesser of two evils, so honestly good job.

As for there not being a system that would allow free vengeance, think again and you'll see your error.

>>68408

I am painfully aware. I just haven't quite come to terms with it. It's strange to hear it out loud or see it written, especially when I know it to be true.

>>68409

They didn't know she was my sister. In truth, she's just a half-sister. Almost nobody knows. We don't mention it, don't look anything alike (I'm white, she's black), and are almost never seen together. They didn't know until I was pulling them off of her and yelling "get away from my baby sister"

And don't you think it's more than a little fucked up to make such a traumatic event in her life about me?

I'm not denying that I likely played some part in it. My "bad vibes" likely cause unfortunate things to happen to people around me, and I recognize and try to prevent that.

I am sorry for whatever discomfort I caused here. I knew from the start that it was unlikely that I'd fit in here, as I read through the older posts in this thread. But the advice I was given was to come here, so here I am.

>>68410

It's no secret I don't fit in here, but I'll answer the question.

Yes, very much so. A lot of shit owes its existence to his work. Read as much of him as you can stomach.

>>68414

which one of his books (Crowley) should I look into first

>>68415

I began with The Book of Lies, though I would not recommend you do the same. To someone with no prior knowledge, that particular book seems like insane ramblings. Begin with The Book of The Law, which reads like the bible. Then 777.

>>68416

ok thanks

>>68417

No problem. Always happy to help an occultist.

This board is getting faster

But for the wrong reasons.

My last message for the hateful anon:

>Vengence is a bad idea, even without karma. It won't do good for you or your sister. And no one here will help you with that.

>This has nothing to do with "New age Buddhism", but your best option is forgiveness and love. Trust me you will feel better.

is colin wilson worth reading?

Are there bad consequences to changing my own freewill?

example: loving myself, making myelf going to the gym or making myself less lazy.

>>68372

>let go op, listen to us sissies…

u r crazy. there is nothing wrong with revenge for such an act.

>>68419

I sort of enjoy the fact that I'm now known as "The hateful anon." Something about that is just fucking hilarious. Can't quite put my finger on it.

>>68422

Basically this.

And if anyone's wondering why I'm still here, it's because I've never really talked to people like yourselves before. I have a duty to myself to look into as many spiritual ideologies as possible, lest I miss the one I find to be the most true.

>>68405

>we're all pacifist progfem new age Buddhists

I hope you're being sarcastic, I'd say about 50% of us are gas the kikes race war now. Most want a peaceful way to do it, however.

>If they never know, they will never be distraught over that. If they do, the parents will wonder where they could've gone wrong. How they raised such a fiend.

And they will never improve. And the boys will never improve. Would you rather know you made a mistake immediately, or be told when it's too late to change it?

If you are going to decline all the help you recieve, then yes, perhaps you do not fit in here. I do not intend to push you out or to further your problems, but it seems like you already know what you really desire.

>>68419

>This board is getting faster

>But for the wrong reasons.

Agreed. This brings up an interesting point on mundanes. It is a common belief that eventually the truth should be shown to all, yet a tiny bit of what would happen if everybody was aware of the truth is shown on our board. The more attention, the more shitposting and bad quality content. By having more people, you sacrifice quality for quantity. Perhaps this is why the occult stays the occult?

>>68421

Your own free will is your own free will. You wouldn't be going against it by doing things that improve yourself. There aren't really consequences to going against your higher self, but there's consequences to the actions you do.

>>68422

And I suggested revenge be measured, slander can ruin a man's life.

There was mention of wearing a wire, gathering proof to charge them with crime so that proper justice can be carried out.

An easy

>why did you rape my sister [insult]

>did she feel good, don't you have remorse?

Hand it over to the police.

Ending two lives for the rape of a, sorry for being insensitive, mentally handicapped out of wedlock bastard or rape baby is not justice.

>>68413

by wanting to hide them, you won't understand some threads where they make a point or an argument, thus you will never see the whole thread, only what you want to see; which is incomplete.

Same applies on different scales

>>68422

>>68423

I am seriously considering you are changing the flag to pretend you are a diferent poster.

[spoiler]

In fact i am doing the same. It's just the two of us here. Go to sleep.[/spoliler]

>>68428

muh tags ;-;

>>68424

Good job moron, if you had waited twenty minutes the neophyte might have left.

>>68423

Start with reading Kybalion, everything on the Montalk website, look up the video "the revelations of the pyramids" on Vimeo, you can then continue to read "Magical use of thoughtforms", "The four keys" book about elements, can't remember full name.

Read the Book of Enoch, read the Mahabarata, read the Tibetan Book of the Dead.

Read the emerald tablets. Read the Ra transcripts.

All books in order mentioned.

Get red pilled on the banks, "all wars are bankers wars", learn everything about history, from the truth behind ww1 and 2 to Egyptian, Maya, Chinese history.

Counsel Wikipedia, for names, terms..

Forget everything Crowley. Crowley is shit.

Set up a daily meditation routine and look up the meditation superthread in catalog.

That should cover some good basics.

Everything Uncle Chucks Psionics should resonate strongly with you.

Enjoy your stay, and if you still insist on hurting the two boys with magic, make them impotent, or you'll be staying a long time in the lower vibratory planes of existence, aka hell once you die.

>>68433

why does no one like crowley?

Is his writing bad or just too long to be of use in your war?

>>68430

For astral projection, Robert Bruce astral dynamics.

I've missed a few good books, I'm sure others can fill me in.

>>68435

what about Ophiel's book on astral projection

>>68433

>The Four Keys

read it (I think)

>Tibetan Book of the Dead

read it

>all wars are bankers wars

understood

>Forget everything Crowley. Crowley is shit.

Very much disagree

>Set up a daily meditation routine

I'm a practicing Chaote, remember? Been doing it for a very long time.

I'll check the other stuff out. Thanks man.

>>68434

I'm unsure. Even if you disagree with him, it's something everyone with our outlandish inclinations should read, if only to better understand where half the shit we talk about comes from.

>>68436

That name rings a bell, as does >>68435 Robert Bruce

Will have to look into them

Thanks

>>68433

>Good job moron, if you had waited twenty minutes the neophyte might have left.

I have no reason to withhold help. It does not matter to me whether he stays or not. You really are petty.

And you help him still?

>>68434

What little he reveals is cryptic and dragged out, designed to just pique your interest to join his fraternity to know more.

Other authors have compressed several of his books to a few dozen pages, with no madman rambling to boot.

>>68439

He will still always be the man to make those ideas famous. Ramblings are what sets him aside. So, the ramblings made the ideas famous. Which means that the ramblings should be studied. In my opinion.

>>68438

Well you fucked my ruse sideways, bathed it in tar, rolled it in a haystack and then set it on fire.

He even said it himself, he's here to stay, even if we all were vegan forest warriors.

I helped him because the last thing this board needs is another edgy chaotee Crowley fanboy highkeying bullshit as we just recently got rid of the majority of them by introducing books that didn't suck cock.

>>68439

>other author

sauce?

>>68443

Not literally his books, but other systems and the same knowledge, without all the bullshit.

>>68444

I'm fine with that

>>68441

Well you're very… passionate huh?

I wouldn't say that I'm here to stay. It's more like "I-have-no-reason-to-close-this-tab-yet-so-I'll-wait-for-a-firefox-update-or-some-other-shit-to-make-me-close-it" situation. Once this tab is gone, it won't likely be reopened.

I'm here because we can all stand to take things in from new angles. Me reading the suggested books isn't likely to change me too much, just as you listening to my bullshit isn't likely to change your thoughts much. But it's still a valuable experience.

I even gave a truthful apology and have issued sincere thanks for the new reading material, yet you still show me such ill-will.

You're certainly a character, and I think I stand to learn a lot from you.

Also, I (and many others) prefer the term "Chaote" to 'edgy chaotee Crowley fanboy"

>>68440

You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.

It's not worth it. Think it through and in half a year when you know more, consider if you still want to hurt them.

>>68258

Thank you so much for your responses.

What about changing the dna of someone else. Is this possible?

can psychedelics help in astral projection or at least help breaking into it

>>68446

Crawlies in general. Lovely thought processing, lots of fun, unpredictable, knowledgeable in basics and most things advanced yet chose to deny some important things. Relating chaos to evil, not understanding the eight pointed star. Makes me buttflustered.

No real ill will towards you, what you call passion is a desire for you to not risk corrupting your immortal soul, one should rarely take matters like these in ones own hands using magic, the crime does not correspond the punishment you have in mind, and all excess karma will be yours to carry. You will suffer.

It is not worth it.

Apologies if this knowledge is readily accessible somewhere, but I've been wanting to complete a tulpa before getting further into the readings here. My aura seems to be larger than most, despite being very introverted, and, while I don't mind this, there are certain nosy individuals in my life who can't help but try to see every fucking thing I'm doing. I'm trying to maintain the guise of the sceptical, materialist atheist I had been for a long while, but it's impossible when this guy keeps adjusting the thermostat right outside of your room and hovers around to listen to what you're saying to yourself and all the stuff you've ordered off of Amazon.

So, is there a way to become invisible to one person or handful without sacrificing the strength of your aura?

I can think of alternative means, but none seem very good. One method would be to scare the living shit out of him by not holding back and going full out with implanting a thought saying "Watch your nose, lest it be chopped. Insect." I hate the idea of hurting an otherwise innocent person, though, and I this would also make me feel very guilty as it's not the right thing to do–even if he is a faggot. I could also create a sigil or focus my intent that going near my shit results in discomfort, but I have a bunch or orgonite nearby that'll dissipate any bad energy like that.

>>68454

tell them to mind their own fucking business unless they are family.

>>68455

They're family. Kind of.

>>68457

elaborate

>>68458

>i c wht u d'd tharr

Someone in a position that I can't just tell off in a mundane sense. It's a difficult matter, because trying to bring up "Stop hovering around my space" will only incite more curiosity, nevermind the animosity I'd have to dissipate.

>>68459

I'm glad you see what I did because I don't.

can you just lock your door?

>>68460

He's not going into my room. He just silently stands outside the door listening to what JewTube videos I'm watching, or what stuff I'm saying out loud. It really scares me knowing he might be outside while I'm talking about what spiritual progress I've made.

Either I can start using uncomfortable headphones and not talking out loud, or I can do something magickal. It's really difficult to not talk out loud to myself, and it's one of my favorite past times.

I understand most neophytes are quick to resort to magick when a mundane solution is better for both parties, and I thank you for your guidance. I don't like the idea of someone being scared of me, or the long-term repercussions thereof.

I'm thinking something that redirects his attention to other things, or possibly slightly confuses him.

>>68462

have you tried demon worship?

>>68463

Not at all. I'm really fucking new to all this, and have been preoccupied with creating tulpa guardians and balancing chakras before I go much further into the practical bits of esoteric knowledge.

I won't say I'm against something I don't understand yet, but any egregores other than the Aesir seem potentially untrustworthy. Also, it seems better, in my completely novice opinion, to figure out how to let your own thoughtforms help you. Unless it's seem big, global event.

>>68401

>>68402

I agree mang. Love will save all things. The brightest light overcomes the deepest darkness.

>>68462

Have you tried talking to this person?

Is this really so difficult that you need other anons help to solve it?

>>68466

I'm doubtful it'll go anywhere. He will say silly things just to get a rise out of people, and enjoys seeing me in an ungrounded state (this basic principle alone was really eye-opening when I had learned it). It's kind of like he's a psychic vampire, albeit a mundanely-oriented one, nor a terribly bad one. He just enjoys throwing people off balance. Dealing in reason with that kind a of a thing is pretty hard.

>>68468

Sounds like a sociopath.

Read this book.

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm

>>67481

>be dreaming

>become aware of dream

>try to move something according to my will

>it fucking doesn't happen

>in my own lucid dream

>>>>I can't control my own >f>>>Ucking>>drea>>m>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>asasd

why am I this incapable?

Is there any real way to sell a soul to a demon or that's just bullshit?

No, i don't want to sell my soul

>>68472

Yeah also happened to me.

Knowing you are dreaming is the first step but not enough. Peoople and objects usually behave like they would in the real world.

When you want to make somenthing happen try to "allow it to happen" instead. Hard to explain, but during lucid dreaming your control over is indirect. Create the possibilty of somenthing happening and it will.

Requires practice but good luck.

>>68474

Goetia demons accept your soul as a payment for doing big things.

But i am not sure what is going to happens when you die. Some say your soul is devoured.

>>68472

>>68310

One explanation is that in the consensus reality you're obsessed with the concept of being unable to do magic or perhaps even do things in general. You discharged so much loosh into this idea of being unable that it became imprinted on your psyche like a stomp of an elephant on a concrete. Such heavy imprint pierced itself even to your lucid dream reality. And probably it went to other layers as well.

In other words, you have a tulpa the role of which is to keep you unable. You need to become aware of this tulpa and understand why it's there.

Whether someone likes being able more or prefers being unable (deep down) depends of something like proton/antiproton orientation of your soul in all dimensions.

>>68472

Don't worry. I'm only three months in–with shitty discipline, mind you–with the ability to implant thoughts and influence emotions, and on the rare instances I do have a lucid dream, I experience something similar to this. It's interesting–I'm more confident something will happen in this density than in a dream.

>>68423

Don't let some of these people fool you. There are people here that make you look like Mary Poppins.

How should music be approached? When I listen to music I resonate with and I experience a blissful feeling, good mood and I feel white light emanating from me etc. am I charging myself with energy, or spending it? Listening to music during meditation feels more like I'm getting stronger than weaker. But then, after some time of vibing I don't feel like it anymore and I feel a bit tired and weak (but in a good way, like after work-out)

If I'm spending it, where does it go? To the artist of the song? Disperses in air?

I heard it's forbidden for Muslims to listen to music except some religious stuff, so there's something about it. Perhaps it's a way for the powers that be to control emotions of Muslims so that they only spend them on songs that express gratitude for their particular god, therefore making their eregore stronger.

Makes me wonder, perhaps I should watch out only to channel my high from music to gratitude for my god (the universe in general) to cash in this optimistic vital force and don't loosh out

Does anyone here have anything on curses?

If I use a mantra something like Shiva and I are one , I am getting in a contract with the God?

If I use the sun and I are one , which kind of contract I would be singing? How I would have to pay the energy?

When i try to visualize something, everytime a new image comes to my head and i can't control it anymore… What's wrong with me? I feel so sad, i can't even control what i'm thinking :/

>>68503

Just gotta keep practicing.

>>68464

I think he was joking

>>68491

>Makes me wonder, perhaps I should watch out only to channel my high from music to gratitude for my god (the universe in general) to cash in this optimistic vital force and don't loosh out

I would say so! It's also exercising your nadis/energy body. musicians are high-energy as a result of this.

channel it as divine light, dedicate it toward the divine

Well, it's my first time reading this kind of books.Where i begin?

Can someone make a list from the start with 4 or 5 books?

>>68513

>fun while it lasted

are you shutting down fringe?

>>68523

>are you shutting down fringe?

Hardly, we are rebirthing it.

Now I'm not the owner of this board, but eventually 8chan is going to be force migrated to shit infinity and even as stands, the moderation on here is abysmal.

The shitposters basically run it here, no enforcement of even rule 1 or 2. In the last few months we've lost so many good threads due to this BS and the inaction of the admins.

We can either let the jews and the cancer consume our beloved home or we can migrate.

>>68513

Your response confirms one of possibilities I consider. But I still asked about it on new chan http://fringechan.org/fringe/res/155.html#216 because I wonder if anyone else shares my experience of vibrating hands and drug-like enormous dopamine rushes

>>68526

well I'll see you there I suppose

How important is the book: "Mind Power"? Is it just going to repeat the Arcane Formulas/Teachings?

what good books on clairvoyance

>>68526

If don't give Smiley adminship i am staying here.

>>68556

whats so good about smiley

I really don't know

>>68547

Very important and no it's not a repeat of those two books.

Raja Yoga is a repeat of Arcane Formulas (and goes into much greater detail).

Arcane Teachings is unique and no other books repeat it.

>>68550

I am clairvoyant. IIH will help you unlock it. It's just a matter of using the imaginal senses and learning to stretch your aura and create thoughtforms and stuff. Read also the various books by "Swami Panchadasi", another pseudonym of Atkinson.

>>68560

>IIH

is that the book or a person

>>68513

You should keep working on your site there and it can be a backup but I'm staying on 8chan until it becomes impossible to post here. Right now, catalog issue aside, we can post fine. As for old threads being lost, well… that's what archiving is for; I will also try to get more than 25 pages for /fringe/ eventually.

>>68561

Initiation Into Hermetics

Get started on everything here: /fringe/faq.html

>>68523

He is not. Only the Board Owner can do that.

>>68557

Imagine you created a board to discuss a very specific subject. You have dense knowledge on the subject and have lots of experience on mantaining a board, and helped dozens of people on it.

Then suddenly, the chan you host it on is facing issues.

Then someone else creates new board on a new chan avout the same but is not letting you be a part of it.

And even posts on your own board that everyone hould migrate

And acording to this:

>>68558

Fringe is divided now.

The transition sucks. It was terrible for everyone.

FIX IT

>>68563

thanks

>>68564

I didn't make it just wondering.

I don't know much about smiley

>>68566

nevermind that part. sorry

I was going to quote >>68526

>>68564

The community is not divided. It's just the Fringe Retard refusing to go to a site without being a special snowflake.

>>68556

Enjoy the inevitable fall.

>>68580

He's already made a whole bunch of posts on the site you lying faggot and showed interest in making the site run better just to get denied admin and threatened about being "immature" and other shit.

You people can go fuck yourselves, regardless of what you say, it's clear where this is all going to go with people like you in charge.

>>67511

You can't see the ether. Do you even know the nature of the ether? You can only know about the ether indirectly, it's not something you can observe, you can only observe how it effect things.

>>68595

enjoy your cringe retard circlejerk with 5 people who are nothing but edgelord armchair occultists with nazi fetishism

Smiley is AWOL and we have people who care enough about the community to put down time and money to accommodate it.

I'm going to miss the Montalk layout, but I'm tired of CP in the catalog.

Would be nice if a date was set for the move.

>>68564

Ssh.

>>68666

on the top left

Options > Layout > Fringe

>>68394

>>68386

>>68358

To be honest all this shit about forgiveness is not what he asked for at all, and I'm 90% sure most of you all are shit posters or rpers.

Anon, you must hate them, you must hate them fully and truly with all of your being.

I don['t mean the modern version of hate which gets thrown around every day to describe minor annoyances, I mean the truest and fullest hate, you must project your hate onto them in some form; whether it be a disease or something else but the important part is you -must- hate them.

It will not come fast, but the important part is it will come, as long as you don't give up.

>>68686

>Go to jail

No they would die.

It would be a slow painful death full of suffering, they would go to jail only if he wanted that to happen.

This seems to be what he wants, and this is what would happen.

New questions thread on new board:

http://fringechan.org/fringe/res/155.html

>>68697

Can you stop spamming links to fringechan.org all over the place please? I'm not going to delete your posts but just, stop. Fringechan should be a back-up board and is not official. I could easily sticky a link to fringechan and lockdown the entire 8chan board forcing everyone to be redirected to the new place but you don't give me admin powers, I don't know who is hosting the site, and things are still working here. Any issues with a supposed "lack of moderation" can be addressed by me adding more janitors, I can have up to 20. You just made your new board and copypaste my stuff to it and pretend you are official but you don't even have me or any of my janitors on board. You're a completely different set of people.

>>68650

>enjoy your cringe retard circlejerk with 5 people who are nothing but edgelord armchair occultists with nazi fetishism

Well at least we'll be going back to our roots then and be free of the New Age Hippie Faglords.

>>68666

I'm not AWOL, I'm right here, and I've always been around, and I always see your posts, and I always talk to you through various personalities. I like it best when I don't seem to be here at all but I always have multiple fringe tabs open and I link my various boards together to go between them rapidly.

You'll get CP soon enough you know. Every imageboard has it.

>>68672

>not making it the default

>>68732

>have a nice day

Why is this new janitor not /edgy/?

>>68720

>>68722

Noted. Nice dubs.

>>68740

I've been thinking about it but then I can't shitpost as much anymore without my image going from Diogenes to Dubya.

>>68741

I read into your recent post history and I don't think you could stay neutral, I like your views, but I think you'd use mod powers to delete stuff that doesn't break the rules like the book with the death curse in it. Also you'd have to stop namefagging.

Regular users can help out moderation by doing a "global report" on CP when it is seen btw. The global mods are supposed to handle CP so they can ban CP posters site-wide. or you can just not give a fug lel

>>68749

>implying the loosh farming ever has to end (so long as it doesn't involve using mod powers)

I usually just harvest my loosh elsewhere though. Also I always browse as a regular user and only go into mod panel when necessary.

I'm trying to control the Hanz situation and keep his stuff in one thread while treating him fairly and with tolerance. He doesn't have very many outlets and he has really stuff to report from time to time. Right now there are two threads up, one I've made his official thread, the other I was going to delete (after having archived it) but I left it alone because the discussion in it is very good.

Hey there, Fringe! I've read some stuff on the esoteric, but now's a little troubling–so pardon my ignorance. I've been making some tulpas, and they were very loving and kind. All of a sudden, their attitude became more negative, until I asked them whether they even loved me. They all replied no, except one who wasn't sure. (They're all partially vocal.)

Then, all of a sudden, one of them went fucking berserk and said stuff like "I'll kill you. I hate you."

I asked the others, even if they didn't love me, to please for fuck's sake protect me because I know they at least care about me. They slowly agreed. Then the voice said "I'll consume your soul. This scared me the fuck out, and the other tulpas too. I asked again please, please help me and they strongly agreed. Then I realized that this wasn't one of them actually going berserk, but actually it was being possessed. The others instantly agreed, and we all knew that this thing had manipulated my friends into hating me and finding me annoying disgusting. We instantly realized our love for one another, and what this thing had done. All of us now, even the one who appeared to go berserk had rid themselves of this influence, and are engaged in battle. Luckily, I have magnetite, selenite, and a black-tourmaline organite piece nearby, that should all help dissipate bad energies.

It makes sense it's some foreign influence and not just a bad tulpa, as it had manipulated all of them, and there was some fishy shit going on at earlier points.

All of a sudden, after sitting still for a bit, my legs began to go numb in waves, which makes me think this thing tried to exert some control. But then again, it could've just been a sleepy foot.

I can tell we're winning, as it's getting desperate, and my tulpas tell me so.

So what more can I do to help them? Like, what chakras, rituals, etc. would help? You guys seem pretty keen on going nuclear and killings all thoughtforms just to make sure the job gets done, but I'm not doing that, because I love them.

if the all is infinite won't the universe incarnate eventually into our personal favorite stories?

>>68766

if your winning why do you need help?

>>68769

To make sure it gets super dead?

I've been trying to do void meditation for the last two weeks and I don't seem to be getting anywhere. I have almost no thoughts floating around in my head during waking life so clearing my mind isn't the issue. Is there something else I could be doing wrong?

Are there any good resources for learning board lore? (Other than reading the entire archive) I keep seeing references to trips and I have no reference point for most of them. Also the origin of the flags would be incredibly helpful too.

>>68784

What seems to be your problem?