/fringe/ - Fringe

>>53318

didi you keep greentexting incorrectly smh

Hey does anybody know if its bad to stockpile energy? I've been pulling a lot of energy around into me. I heard it might damage my chakras but I have no idea in what way. Pros? Cons?

>>53327

I think you need to look where you place your foot.

View my content, then you have my permission to comment.

>>53340

Brother, all you had to do was put a comma in between your two thoughts.

>then you have my permission to comment.

Don't be so antagonistic.

Is there a translation for the Kybalion in Russian or Latvian?

>>53348

>>53348

black males are so belligerent smh

way to perpeuate stereotypes didi, you're really setting a fine example for your race

>>53351

Now I am black? I was sure I was jewish according to some other anons, geez how can I keep up with all these geo-political labels I'm being given?

>>53353

you've always been black didi

that's why you're a good boi and dindu nuffin

I asked this on the previous thread, but it reached bump limit before /fringe/ could enlighten me:

'I keep seeing comments like

>pray to Jesus Christ, he will help you

Are there any dangers in resorting to collective thoughtforms? How much of our energy is taken in exchange, in order to fulfill the requests of others? Is the taken energy inversely proportional to how much we believe ourselves to follow the Christian teachings? Is it also feeding on our guilt?'

It feels like christianity was the religion of love and spiritual enlightment, but, through satans effort, became based on fear, guilt and bondage, like the other satanic religions, long ago. How to find the True Christ?

>>53378

I, personally, wouldn't do something yahweh told you to. If I had the choice, that is.

>>53379

>remind you all judeo-type deities are war and destruction for pleasure energies.

>dont fuck wit jebus or jehwey or hehova

>protip jesus doesn't do shit unless u use jesus to spread jesus, example : tyler perry, evangelical tv presentors, bishops, propaganda politicians.

>you have to help spread the virus to benefit from it.

>is it really worth it?

>>53379

>>53381

Isn't the God of the New Testament different from the god of the Old Testament and Quran?

He didn't kill, torture or humiliate anyone, didn't promise land and wealth and wasn't concerned whether I eat pork or not.

He forgives me if I doubt him, his primary goal is my spiritual elevation. I would be Christian if they had remained to this God.

>>53382

>le new testament

>let's just fix all the unlikeable qualities

>>53350

Yes there is, just use search engine, you buffoon.

Just what is this 'inner world' thing I heard about while looking up tulpas? How do I make one?

Anything magick related on the deep web?

>>53390

find out for yourself, this isn't /x/

>>53394

meant for

>>53392

>>53392

If you're going to question /fringe/ then it's only fair that you at least start reading the books to get on some common ground.

If you have no time but really want to know more on the subject, you might want to start with The Reality of ESP by Russell Targ. It describes some experiments conducted by the CIA. It's still just another claim, but I figure you're looking for more of a source you can relate to, people with a background in hard science.

As for experiments, I'm not into astral projection, but you may find someone here to join in on your experiment.

>>53392

keep a magickal journal for verification of works, read alan chapmans advanced magick for beginners, he is a fun guy and easy to read.

>>53390

>>52078

>>53400

reading it now, thanks

>>53397

The Fundamentals of Esoteric Knowledge by Jean Dubuis is also good for beginners, I personally think it's essential reading for anything related to symbols and sigils

>>53400

This book is pretty good. The whole astrology thing seems interesting.

http://ssoc.iapsop.com/

dope occult archive of rare & old books

>>53405

>>53401

also don't forget the astral temple in the second post.

What does /fringe/ think about this https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ? It's the occult books mega library from 4/x/.

>>53411

Lurketh Moareth.

honest question, how bad is masturbation?

My final conclusion is that Atkinson is tl;dr. Lots of good information, sure, but the way he tends to drag on and on to explain miniscule things puts me off. He also not very practical and his tone is on a level of a snake oil salesman with all these "muh science" references.

There are better books that don't require you too read thousands of pages to get to the point. Though right now I am not sure if I even want to recommend books on this board…

>>53416

please do

>>53415

For once, it's not worse than having sex.

The real dangers lie in wasting time, not properly regulating orgasms/energy, a misfired Kundalini and most importantly the loss of vital substances upon ejaculation (females can ejaculate, too).

Better read up on Mantak Chia and Taoism, but even they only approximate the truth of this matter. Find out for yourself and experiment with celibacy. For me personally, celibacy makes me orgasm randomly without any input and I feel extremely well.

>>53417

I am a person that requires the material to be highly refined and pure before I'd even consider recommending it. So far "Teachings of the Immortals" fits this criteria, but it's entry tier without clear instructions. Just be aware that Lucid Dreaming and Astral Projection is what you're going to start with if you want to acquire real magical proficiency. That and knowledge of the physical and energetic bodies, the chakras, the Kundalini and how you manipulate your inner as well as ambivalent energy and electromagnetic fields. Releasing all limitations is the task.

>>53411

What a steaming pile of rubbish.

>>53416

but he has quite a few very short books like the ones on pyschomancy and mediumship or the kybalion even

>>53422

These are actually ok, but they lack a lot of essential information to do these things properly. The Kybalion is also too mystified.

His book on breath is pretty good.

>>53416

His books are good for a beginner with a scientific mind in my opinion. I usually read his work to appease my ego, and it's usually used as a companion piece to the main text I'm reading about a particular topic.

It's only a problem if you think you need absolutely nothing else.

On the subject of Gnosticism, is this the truth?

How would I be considered a Gnostic? And how would I experience gnosis? Astral projection? Meditation? Lucid dreaming? I can't do any of that. Where would a new Gnostic begin?

>>53454

>i can't meditate

yes you can kek, just close your eyes and breath 5 secs in 5 secs out

>>53457

what do you study at university omran?

>>53458

>>53458

Who are you?What are you?Who am I?

Oh I study Computer engineering

>>53460

hack into ISIS' mainframe

you can save the world omran

>>53464

would that special organization be al queda?

:^)

*tips turban*

>>53458

I meant like deep meditation where you get in a trance and shit

>>53464

Thank you I can wait

>>53465

Pssh

More weirder sheit

what's the next pill to take after the green one? what's the following truth? where do we go from here?

>>53493

Take more greenpills until you're healthy again.

>>53330

In my own experience, it dissipates too fast for efficient stockpiling.

It's easier to just breathe in massive amounts after entering the right mental state but I can't think of any cons to stockpiling it either.

>>53371

Quiet mind meditation, stop listening to said music if you haven't already.

You can listen to music but it has to be of a drastically different genre, preferably classical.

I either do those things or transfer my mind to my mental sanctuary that basically consists of an endless even ocean.

>>53392

What you want to do is on the level of a junior highschool student deciding to attempt a university level physics experiment without reading up on the theory or the method.

Read a book nigger.

>>53393

Probably, but I never bothered to search for it.

>>53495

so you badly wanted to comment feeling the need to try to contribute but realize it was simpler to just make a stupid facetious comment. Cool

Contributing is so hard.

>>53493

Work on self, go do shadow work and address all your beliefs and hangups, after you know the occult dynamics and the memes of society, the mind control and the propaganda bullshit, all the magick, the occult, the psychology, the axioms, all of that - from then on you work on self-refinement and personal growth and empowering yourself, not to dominate, but to contribute to ..First your experience .. second those whom you desire to contribute to if such is your choice.

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-134778/TS-942518.mp3

>>53498

Banish before sleep

Do meditation/energy work/relaxation MPR until sleep

Enjoy

>>53493

>what's the next pill to take after the green one? what's the following truth? where do we go from here?

Self-liberate even the Antidote.

http://www.tricycle.com/web-exclusive/train-your-mind-slogan-4

>>53496

I can't quiet my mind is the point.

>>53507

observe the mental noise without judgement while gently guiding focus back to the breath.

attachment or aversion or identification with mental phenomena/perceptions are the issues, always.

it will either fade away or become a non-issue.

>>53507

If you can direct energy and interact with your chacra's, you can start to cool down the third eye chakra. The colder it is, the slower is your thought process. When it's cool enough proceed with another mental clearing method, you will see success way more easily and rapidly because you will have fewer thoughts.

this is cool, so i've probably started seeing effects of meditation/magic for the first time, I meditated on the pituatary gland for the second time yesterday before going to sleep to increase testosterone for those gains, I honestly feel it working, nothing happened, but i'm angry as fuck now

>>53516

>If you can direct energy and interact with your chacra's

Why would you think I can do that if I can't even do a quiet mind exercise.

>>53483

You have delivered! Thank you man! Download ing pdf now as well

Is lucid dreaming enough to change your etheric body, or do you need to know how to astral project?

>>53533

If you can lucid dream, you are easily capable of astral projection. So, yes.

Are politics meaningless?

>>53529

Because I could and it's really easy, just stay still and breathe and do that

>>53540

In short: yes

But you have to understand that it's a psychopath's world. Politics is just a show for the masses.

>>53545

I'm not going to do that bunch of nonsense shit you posted.

Who would read 10 books to learn about new-age chakra bending shit (if it's not nonsense) so they can learn to do the first thing each of those books would tell them to do, on the advice of a dope who thinks that's a remotely acceptable suggestion?

>>53553

read up on mindfulness meditation.

it involves focusing on the breath and allowing phenomena to come and go without judgement, till eventually you detangle yourself from it and it settles.

It is not a quick solution, it will take work.

Leave all this chakra business for more advanced work if you develop an aptitude for the basic stuff.

>>53558

This is a myth.

It's actually beetle jizz.

Could a person preform a body swap? If the individual doesn't consent can you force the body swap?

>>53568

Yes, but if the victim isn't aware he/she would fall unconscious and feel like a timelag(a period of time passed and he is back on but doesn't remember what happened.)

I need help with healing.

I currently have a few warts on my hand, I've had one for over a year and used mundane methods on it.

This year two more came up on the same hand.

I am currently doing visualization and auto suggestion for over a month and I am not seeing any good results.

Digging them out is not an option due to them being very sensitive, even tapping the wart will cause pain.

I have been considering outside help from other entities, but I want to be able to heal myself.

What are some more effective ways I can get rid of these things and heal myself more effectively?

>>53596

energy

>>53596

Abracadabra is an ancient incantation basically means "it disappeared as it was spoken" in Hebrew. It was used for healing. The first known mention of the word was in the 2nd century CE in a book called Liber Medicinalis.

On the night of the new moon, chant out ABRACADABRA each time drop one letter out and imagine the sickness disappearing. The sickness will be gone as ABRACADABRA.

Try contacting a spirit or god of healing. Asklepios and Raphael come to mind; make an offering to them, pray for their help, vow a payment when/if you're healed, and carry through.(also marbas from Goetia is said to be a friendly healer, check him out)

Asclepius, god of medicine and healing(Give offering to Asclepius to get some medical help y)

A vow can be something as simple as "I vow to make a $50 donation to the American Cancer Society if you help me with this" or "I vow to learn reiki and practice it for free for others"; you don't need to slaughter a chicken or whatever (although some spirits wouldn't be opposed). Prayer can work, but vows make it a contract and give far more incentive and power to the prayer.

Basically, many spirits are willing to help, but just like people, many spirits don't work for free. Some spirits want payment for doing work, which can be as little as some public recognition (e.g. telling a friend about how awesome spirit X is for helping you out in a time of need), while others can be as demanding as lifelong servitude (e.g. dedicating oneself to a priesthood in service for a very large request made, such as how the prophet Samuel was dedicated to God). Angels tend to follow the will of God.

Here is mantra of rama

Healing OM RAM RAMAYA NAMAHA [Ohm Rahm Rahm-eye-yah Nahm-ah-ha

>>53598

Shut the fuck up, you disgusting cancerous tripfag. Your posts are fucking spam.

>>53568

Yes, of course it is possible. Google Vehicle Transference Sorcery & Theosophy and look at this thread http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/14456978/

Body swap reports are rare, but they exist. Voodoo also records of it.

It's not particularly hard, but most of the time you'll end up in a different dimension which explains the rarity of the phenomena.

>>53602

He's nice enough to have a trip, just use the filter function.

Is directing energey aproximately to the place you want it to influence during meditation ok? I can't like pinpoint it exactly, it's the pituatary gland, I picture it being just below the brain and in the middle

>>53607

It should be enough, as long you've imprinted the energy with the specific task it should find the gland automatically.

>>53606

Wait, names are trips?

>>53610

Closest thing to a trip we get.

>>53611

why doesn't he use namefag instead of tripfag then?

>>53612

Cuz he be a fag jus like you

>>53612

Because it's late at night and I'm tired. I should have said namefag but I'm not autistic enough to delete my posts over mistakes like that.

I had a dream that i had 80's rockstar kinda hair, long and huge.

What to do to achieve results?

>>53626

Don't get your hair cut.

>>53627

Long wavy reddish blonde hair is EXTREMELY regenerate.

>>53630

Don't post without your name. I can't filter you that way

Has any of you accomplished a noticeable change with Biokinesis?

>>53637

Try more appliable things first. Sustaining your body without the need of physical food for instance.

>>53638

H-Have you accomplished that? or any of you?

>>53639

Yes.

Is dream journal the best way to lucid dream?

Also what other occult benifits does lucid dreaming have?

>>53646

You can astral project during lucid dreams. When in astral you can build astral temple and summon anything you wish instantly.

>>53648

But is the dream journal method any good? I find that I'm an awareless moron in my dreams

>>53649

Really you need to work on everything. Do the lbrp daily, when you wake and before you sleep, do the middle pillar daily, meditate daily. Offerings wouldn't hurt, ask to be taught to lucid dream while doing it. These things will strengthen the skills you NEED to lucid dream succesfully.

You can find how to do all of the above in this book: >>47073 offerings are in jason miller's sorcerors secrets which is in the recommended folder of "huge" mega

Try other lucid dreaming techniques such as WILD (use sleep yoga on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4r6r2lGKgU ), reality checks etc.

Find more on that stuff here: https://mega.nz/#F!SwBlCCyT!27XTLH5m13P-Hd-GobvtKA

Try lucidology.

Dream journal is bare minimum, but good place to start.

>>53598

Thanks for all the help!

>>53650

Thank you I will look into these! I thought that doing dream journals alone would have been enough. But thanks these will help a lot!

WHAT DO YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THE GLAND?

>>53679

THE BARATHARY GLAND

>>53680

https://destee.com/threads/what-is-the-barathary-gland.24759/

>dr.york

>known black-version of jim jones

>incarcerated for pedophilia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_York

the man did STEAL a lot of his info from older occult materials, so it's either true or it's just more propping up of the afrocentrics just like the white supremacists do with jesus/mormonism

>>53639

There's an anon who lives off of the sun already I think.

>>53693

but what if you locked him inside a dark room?

>>53639

Food does not sustain me.

>>53696

He'll have to adjust to pure prana then. It would be fairly easy for him though.

>>53697

but what if you put inside an orgone container where there is only DOR(negative orgone energy)

>>53697

Do you still drink water or have you achieved a more perfect state? If you have please explain the transition from liquids to nothing at all and if you would care to even the transition from solid to liquid to none.

>>53698

Even Jasmuheen herself had problems and was losing weight in a polluted environment. But it also depends on the individual. Some yogis can drink poison without harm.

>>53708

It's not nothing, it is prana. The transition is just the realization and acceptance that physical foods do not sustain your system at all, that they are not needed and that prana/divine energy is the real source of life and everything. This transition can occur gradually, spontaneously, through various transitioning rituals or programs. The safest way is to go vegetarian, vegan, raw vegan, fruitarian, liquidarian, and by then going breatharian is just the natural step further. But there are people jump straight from omnivorism to pranic nourishment. So it's not something that has set rules. Highly individual and also dangerous when you come from a wrong mindset. Read some books if you're interested in details (though there is some disinfo).

>>53744

Naa…

Just one of Chuck Norris's incarnations

>>53773

yes, i've been noticing this since maybe I was 12 years old, I guess you have your own perception of yourself, yet the people around you all have different perceptions of you, and project those perceptions into your mind, I haven't tried this, but what I think helps is strengthening your etheric body, which i'm trying to do so now, but I need to learn how to lucid dream first

>>53773

These people reflect the parts of yourself that are not what you define as "spiritual". We are infinite as far as perception goes so there are bound to be non "spiritual" parts. You do not always need to be in a "spiritual" state. Especially around those who are not spiritual. It will only do good to turn them away from you and create uncomfortable situations. To summarize. Allow yourself to just be a human part of yourself or a stronger ego version of yourself around others. This does not mean you completely shut yourself of from the spirit.

>>53711

I've been feeling the same thing recently. I recently changed to fruitarian a few months ago and my body is still rejecting the food as I honestly feel like my body understands that this is not the true source of energy. Would you recommend the 21 day process of a 7 day dry fast into pure water fasting until you've healed enough to cut out water.

>>53782

If you truly believe that this is your path then feel free to do it.

>>53793

>>53782

you know you have to give your body's organs time to re-adjust right? which is said to take 10-15 years.

Also, if you aren't working out intensively every 2-3 days and you're a skinnylord doing this - you will die.

your body is programmed to ingest food atm, it's a slow process to re-align the construct - go look up sunfire jericho or R budd Gzus or dr sebi.

>>53795

This is totally not true becuase this depends on the individual. Stop acting so high and mighty just because you read some books. Seriously, things don't have to go a certain way.

>>53795

disinfo dindu strikes again!

>>53797

>>53796

prove it.

>>53799

w/e, i'm just giving information so the fella doesn't damage his body or dies.

If he has indeed reached actualization and he can survive by sucking in energy from matter - good for him, if he hasn't - he's going to have irreparable brain damage and nervous system issues.

>>53711

>jasmuheen

>aging terribly

As of 2012, four deaths had been directly linked to breatharianism and Jasmuheen's publications.[8][9] Jasmuheen has denied any responsibility for the deaths.

53-year-old Melbourne resident Lani Marcia Roslyn Morris died in 1999, while attempting the breatharian "diet" advocated by Jasmuheen. Jim Vadim Pesnak, 63, and his wife Eugenia, 60, were jailed for six years and two years, respectively, on charges of manslaughter for their involvement in the death of Morris. Pesnak had delayed seeking medical attention.[10] Referring this case, Jasmuheen commented that Morris's practice of Inedia perhaps was "not coming from a place of integrity and did not have the right motivation".[8]

Jasmuheen offered similar defence in response to the death of Verity Linn, who may have died of self-starvation while practising Inedia in Scotland, her diary mentioning Jasmuheen's teachings. Linn's body was found in a tent.[11] In 2012, it was reported that a Swiss woman died of starvation after having attempted to survive purely on light, as taught in one of Jasmuheen's books.[9]

Jasmuheen has written that "If you haven't found the light that will nourish you, you may have the intention to become a breatharian, but in fact you may be putting yourself through food deprivation. There is one known case where a person died when trying to become a breatharian."

——

>But there are people jump straight from omnivorism to pranic nourishment

got some examples? not just anecdotal

can you fuck someones soul

>>53809

As above, so below.

>>53809

Just a silly metaphor.

>>53801

Sorry, but where I come from there are many breatharians who went through Jasmuheen's process. There is no reason to doubt them. Jasmuheen is not from free from false information, I know that. But this works and that's all there is to say about it.

>>53815

I've been speaking on inedia since i started posting here - yes it's legit, consumption makes no logical sense in a hologram, - why the fuck would a god need material sustenance…

…

Flipside; jasmuheen is straight up a fucking sociopath, and you can discern that clearly.

which is why i tell folk to check out sunfire jericho and r budd gzus - among a few.

>this works and that's all there is to say about it

a loaded gun works fine too unless you point it at your own head, gun safety training is highly recommended.

What do you guys think about the effects of coffee and tea from caffeine? I hear the Tibetans drinking their butter salt tea and had thought it sounds like a nice beverage. Though I'll have to figure out a vegan version of it. I'm mainly worried about the effects of the caffeine on me though if it wreaks havoc on sleep and the adrenals.

>>53819

I wouldn't recommend any of it. Raw vegan is the best and safest before attempting something like breatharianism. Coffee isn't really good.

>>53825

You serious? Coffee is the best spiritual beverage you could ever drink. Drink a big cup of coffee, go meditate, and meet your guides.

>>53827

what you sow you reap.

>>53831

What I sow they shit on,

and bullshit makes the flowers grow,

isn't that beautiful?

>>53831

Wrong

How do I predict the future?

>>53839

>>53839

By understanding the present

Hey I have this question about gnosis and the state of deep trance associated to it. You know floating in to a universe of infinity within one's self.

I would want to know if it would be possible to move and especially move a finger while doing it.

Thanks!

>>53839

Through past life regression until you find a copy of the current cycle.

It has all happened before and will happen again.

>>53841

then how do I break the cycle?

>>53847

meant for

>>53846

>>53848

it will all turn back on itself.

however its breadth can seem to expand like an elastic band.

awareness of the cyclical nature and experience of other times and lives leads to wisdom and contentment.

you can not wholly break out from what i have seen but can learn to float with the stream rather than being battered by the river of cosmic determinism.

chiilax, enjoy the ride, if the reruns get boring indulge in forgetfulness once more.

>>53831

>>53841

>>53849

>this man disinfos on this board

>>53850

>this man

Lol Ive made one post on that list. Dumb people are impressive

Has anyone here astral projected while in a moving vehicle (car, bus, train, etc.)

did you have difficulties return to your physical body?

also when leaving your physical body were you relative to your physical body (i.e. moving with the vehicle)? or did you stay put while your physical body continued moving?

>>53883

no

no

I didn't.

>pretend to be a viking

>listen to Finnish music

>walk daily in the forest

I never felt so fucking peaceful, and guess what, dont need shakras

Why is the kyballion regarded as one of the most important books here? I've read it, it's basically theory, it has no stuff you can practice at all, I mean it's an interesting read, but why not just practice instead?

>>53902

99% of the people here just read and pretend magic is just roleplaying.

>>53902

I think the same can be said for all of atkinson's books

>>53905

as i've said, it contains zero stuff to practice, you're better off not wasting your time on this book I believe

>>53904

Absolutely.

>>53907

O man I need to screencap this to throw it at smiley

>>53908

Nobody cares about that person anymore.

>>53906

It's a hundred pages long, you're not wasting any time.

It might be just theory, but if you read it then read more practical material you'll realize why those practices work, as opposed to just doing arbitrary rituals and then shit happens and you have no idea why it happens. Think of the Kybalion as the WHY and something like Franz Bardon as the HOW.

Is it enough to just keep a dream journal to learn how to lucid dream? I noticed I remember my dreams more often, but I still skip some nights and don't remember anything

>>53915

no.

>>53920

What would you recommend?

>>53921

https://web.archive.org/web/20141013121312/http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/rites/lucid.html

also make a thoughtform/dream tulpa to induce lucidity.

Creation Of A Dream-Tulpa

A ‘tulpa’ is a consciously-projected thought-form or servitor, which may perform a particular task for a magician or act as a general ‘helper’. They are of a similar nature to Spirit Desire-Forms. A Dream Tulpa takes the form of a shadowy figure - Tibetan shamans, from whom the name derives, often projected these figures in the form of monks - whom you should gradually begin to embellish with features over time. For example, you could spend some minutes working with the Dream Tulpa each night. Your aim should be not so much to impose features onto the shadow-form - but to let them arise. For example, you might notice, the first time you do this, that the Tulpa is a man. Mentally note one or two features (write them down when you can) and leave it at that. The next night, you might find yourself deciding that the man wears heavy gold rings on his hands. The trick is to let the shape build up gradually, taking on more detail and its own ‘life’, until it spontaneously crosses over into your dream experience.

Knowing that you have dreamt about the Tulpa is itself, a great step forwards. If you can reach that stage, then you may consider working with the Tulpa consciously, in waking, semi-waking, and dream states. You could for example, ask the Tulpa to act as a ‘trigger’ to bring you to lucid awareness in dream, or to guide you in travelling to different realms in the lands of dream. It is important that you build up a relationship of trust and confidence with the Tulpa, that you recognise it as an individual entity, albeit one that you are responsible for.

>>53915

Having the same problem. I have just started using various related sigils as well as affirmations to try to fix this.

>>53915

just answered you

>>53923

All right, I have a question for you guys.

I've heard it said that if you utilize multiple spells covering the same time period, wonky things may happen, including:

>amplification of power: instead of 3+3=6 you get 3x3=9

>nullification of power: instead of 3+3=6 you get 0x=0

>spreading energy out results in diminished results from all of them

>if using spirits they may be fickle in working with other spirits

>etc.

I'm planning things on wrapping up at the end of this month, and I was wanting to know your opinions on this kind of thing.

At the moment I believe I may be able to get around it by having multiple people cast different branches of magic, all working towards the same intention.

What do you think?

what do you guys think about the stuff going onwards from page 59?

file:///D:/Users/tadask/Downloads/[Frank_Rudolph_Young]_Yoga_for_Men_Only(BookZZ.org).pdf

I'm thinking of doing this stuff, since I already work out a lot, I think this could help making muscle faster, but the exercises where you had to imagine a heavy object are a bit weird

>>53933

linked the wrong stuff sorry

http://bookzz.org/book/1234689/39c03a

Mundane here new to the esoteric life. I keep hearing how magick and shit will change your life for the better. Yet the people who wrote these are just normal people. They grow old fat and bald like everyone else. They aren't even rich or anything. And the rest are just teenagers on YouTube and new agers. I'm reading the kyballion right now and I love the 7 principles. For some reason they make so much sense, but how do I know I'm not really getting into something that will waste my time? We don't know almost anything about the supposed life of Hermes. How powerful is this esoteric knowledge if it cannot be used to transform the physical life along with the spirit?

I'm not trolling or anything. This is a serious question I had, so I would expect serious responses. Thank you.

>>53935

I guess you could say I'm new too, but i've been reading up a lot on all these methods and shit, and there are certainly ways described to transform your physical life, which make sense, I personally have not tried some of the stuff yet as I have not yet learned how to lucid dream yet, but some of the stuff I tried with meditation seemed legit, Like the stuff where you focus on your pituatary gland during meditation to focus your energy there and get increased testosterone and grow in size, I feel this has helped me greatly in Weightlifting, I think you shouldn't doubt any of this, and try the smaller stuff first to see if you get any results, doubt will make this impossible though

>>53935

>>53936

yes what you want to look into first is definetly lucid dreaming and astral projection

>>53936

>>53937

Makes sense I'll try the smaller things then.

Oh and iv been trying to lucid dream for a while but it's tough as balls to become aware that you are dreaming. I feel that I'm like an actor in a play who can't realize every thing is set up. It's amazing how easy it is for so many people and I can't even gain lucidity at all

>>53942

Iktf bro

>>53942

try doing the stuff here

>>53922

I just came across a spell that needed something relatively obscure, and I have no idea how to get it.

I need "unas de gallo", which is spanish for rooster's nails.

…short of finding a rooster and trimming him, which they don't like, any know of a place to buy animal parts online?

>>53953

Never mind, I found a woman who has some lying around the house because of her husband.

>ebay, if anyone's interested.

>>53953

>>53957

>rooster feathers

>spells

The hell is this shit. Just will whatever you want, you pleb.

anybody here have a PDF of Ghāyat al-Ḥakīm (the Picatrix)?

>>53970

http://www.mike-rock.com/picatrix/

>>53949

I followed the link in the post and iv been doing what's in it. Hopefully it works soon.

Hello, I hope this question hasn't been asked before and if it does, I apologize for not being able to find the thread.

Basically I'm getting into fringe knowledge and I want to astral project, but I'm finding it difficult to do. I was wondering if it was possible (and wise) to create a tulpa/servitor and somehow help me regain my awareness while I am sleeping (for lucid dreaming) or somehow help me Astral Project. As far as I know, AP is basically lucid dreaming on steroids, right? So if I manage to LD, perhaps it would make it easier for me to AP? Or could I skip the lucid dreaming and go straight into AP? And how could I get help from a servitor? Could I just tell it to watch over me while I sleep and pull me out of my body?

Sorry if my question sounds silly, I have tried to express myself as clearly as possible. Thank you very much.

>>54017

you lack chi, build up chi, do MCO in the dark for energy or in a dim room - sungaze more for energy, also your chemistry can affect it too.

is looking at sigils dangerous?

>>54036

I don't see why it would be, unless you're giving it energy by thinking about it more.

I've made 3 sigils and never even used them, but I just realized I had them laying around. Since apparently keeping sigils around is bad, is this dangerous? Is shredding them good enough?

i have seen some very trustworthy evidence first hand, that they are extremely powerful. I want to know how to follow them and enter a relationship with them. Specifically, Shiva and Ganesha, but indian entity is great. Also please tell me about your experiences with them.

sorry if this should have been posted in /occult/ instead

Everything I look for regarding anything occult related on YouTube is ridiculous. All I get are new agers, teenagers and attention whoring women spewing shit about "love life xDDD and people xD", "your circumstances are your fault" bullshit. I want to meet my higher self/divine spark/whatever it's called, but I can't trust anyone. I would simply like guidance but everything is shit. I want the hardcore practical truth not the "think happy thoughts :))))" from these children of the demiurge. What do?

>>54057

read books recommended here,meditate,learn how to lucid dream and astral project

Lately I'm somehow accidentally causing some small synchronicities, but they're pretty meaningless (literally related to certain kinds of shitposting), though it's more like the overall idea is that it is possible to cause them. How do I consciously trigger positive synchronicities?

>>54057

>youtube

Where you honestly expecting anything but shit? You might as well try looking for diamonds in a trash dump.

>your circumstances are your fault

But that's true.

>I want to meet my higher self/divine spark/whatever it's called, but I can't trust anyone

Read the recommended books then judge yourself what your next move should be. In any case you should start meditating.

>>54060

>literally related to certain kinds of shitposting

Bane?

>>54017

A method that one anon here used to AP easily and quickly is to create a thoughtform that sucked his astral self out of his physical body. I've personally tested that and can safely say that it's a better method than the rope techniques from the 90 day guide, for me anyway.

You certainly don't need to lucid dream before APing, though the awareness exercises that you aught to be doing will make both LD and AP a much easier, more natural thing for you to do.

If you need tips on throughforming just use your internet search engine of choice as it's chock-full of information.

>>54061

While I do believe you can change your circumstances by application. Not every problem iv had is my fault. This physical universe is flawed, it's rules are flawed, the people here are flawed. There are the things we are shoved into, not something we did ourselves. We just need to get past it. But I thank you for the rest of the post. I will read the books. I'v wanted to get into meditation, but it's so vague. What kind of meditation? There are millions of them. This what I meant by guidance.

All the joke edited "ALLAHU ACKBAR" videos spawning around the net, aren't they sort of giving power to ISISs cause when they're being watched?

>>54066

No.

>>54061

Yeah. I watched the movies like a week ago or so and just found it kinda funny, but since that time on all the usual boards I'm on not any board related to tv or movies just to be clear I've been seeing so many references it's crazy. It hasn't ever happened before. Went on the literature board for no reason for the first time in years today, a thread on the front page had a Gillen reaction pic. Went onto a thread about a dirty house. Several people mentioned casting Gillen as one of the objects from the house (completely unrelated)…There's more and it just keeps happening I don't think I'm crazy but it's weirding me out

>>54057

The way you write.

>i want to meet my higher self

you try the darkness meditation?

Every time I answer a question, two more questions form. When does it end? When does it stop changing as you observe it?

>>54076

You hear about the plane crash?

There's some truth to what you're saying, but it's not BECAUSE of you, you're just part of it now.

>>54087

never

>>54087

To exist is to question

Humbly reaching out to you because I've been stuck on a plateau for a while now.

1. My current goal is to be able to see and visualize on the (now) black screen before my eyes. Therefore I've been trying to open my third eye for a while. When I close my eyes I see a blue/purple field surrounded by gold. When looking at a white wall I see it with my eyes open aswell. I therefore believe that my third is awakened, but not open.

Will there be a stage when this turns to an illumination or screen, for me to visualize on? If so, what should I practice?

I have had a few experiences with CEV, but sadly all of them drug (LSD/MDMA) induced.

2. Second wondering related to the first one, kind of same question.

I can't see what I see in my mind's eye, with my physical eyes. Is there a way to "move" the mind's eye to the black screen before my physical eyes?

Thank you all.

>>54087

When you start making up your own rules and being more in control of your surroundings.

People can bash on books that don't provide any straightforward rituals and exercises but when you realize and apply the axiom that the Universe is Mental with the fact that magic is essentially developing your Mental powers, everything becomes somewhat clearer in a Mr. Bean "Magic" explanation sort of way.

In reality there are so many invisible influences acting on the world every second that it'd be a fool's errand to try and account for all of them, just try to maximize your own influence.

>there are people who ironically ask Omran for advice

>>54096

so…?

>>54098

I guess you get what you deserve.

>>54099

at least I try to help people, I don't really intend to annoy people in /fringe/, but now I will probably I just stay anonymous and post content and hopefully people will stop picking on me that much without a reason(I mean there are time when people point at some bullshit I post and I actually research and try to find a way to correct myself).In the end hopefully my name won't affect the content I post

As gurdjieff said

"Don't judge a man by the tales of others."

but probably Smiley already shat on my name enough, and even when I show my contribution to people they ignore it for a day or two and then comeback and say "DIS SHITPOSTER"

Uh..well… I am feeling rustled by these people attacking me.

~Omran.

>>54100

Post with your name, please.

>>54101

No.

>>54102

we'll still know you by your flag though

>Implying flag can't be changed.

I am new to meditation. You know any good ones for beginners? One that will help me with astral projection/lucid dreaming, going into Trances/Void and other stuff like that?

>>54102

Meditating lying down till you're asleep almost guarantees lucid dreaming

>>54107

>>54108

How are you supposed to convince me that /fringe/ isn't one big disinfo?

>>54113

experiment with the infomation yourself and report back.

the only way to know is through experience and experimentation.

theory even if moving, palatable or sensible is just a theory until you apply the methods and achieve similar results.

>>54113

we're not, it's not our job to clean the poop off of you, that's your job, all we offer is means to promote better hygiene.

—-

>self-entitled folk : prove to me i can stop being a loser.

>>54108

I just layed down and meditated. I focused on parts of my body and trying to block my thoughts out, that's it. I felt a very good sensation In my body but unfortunately my thoughts took over and before I knew it I woke up from a mundane scripted daydream of some sort. This all lasted about 20 minutes. Nothing mystical or lucid. It takes practice or should I have gotten it right right away?

>>54117

definetly practice, but not much

>>54118

Right I'll practice more, hopefully I'll get it soon

how much truth is there to the statement of joyofsatan that satan is the only true god that was known as enki?

>>54124

Satan is a demiurge acumen. The Monad is true love, and true light.

>>54125

Fuck auto correct, I meant demiurge scum.

>>54125

Greenpill me on the monad, I've haven't seen it discussed here tbh

>>54127

I'm new to the occult, but I know it is the source of everything in existence. And a spark of the monad exists in our core which will reunite with the whole source if we acquire gnosis. The Monad is perfect and is the embodiment of love. It is what led me to seek mysticism. It is perfect and above this piece of shit world.

>>54088

Yeah, the plane crash was genuinely scary in how many things matched. Also, I know, but the thing is, if you can become part of something causing these synchronicities, could there also be a way to make these synchronicities something more positive?

Does anyone happen to have a pdf version of an english (or french) translation of Geber's Summa Perfectionis?

Looked through a few fringe-related mega libraries and couldn't find one.

>>54158

Idk I myself always meditate on the pituatary gland to increase testosterone before falling asleep, it works, but as I said not every time, it increases the chances though

>>54093

While there is no formal definition for visualizing and most people will struggle to tell you what it is, your attempts to overlay the darkness you see with your eyes is unnecessarily hard if you're only just starting.

There certainly is advanced visualizations that overlay reality itself, visualizing with your eyes open essentially, but what you should start with is vivid imagination, not seeing images in front of your visual darkness.

Either way the solution is to keep practicing and do a whole bunch of chakra meditations, especially the third eyes obviously but be sure to have a vivid visualization of the colours as that's where the main benefit to your skill will come from.

>>54100

>provides good answers to questions

>generally well liked for a namefag

>suddenly snaps and starts posting retarded shit

>anons get mad about the shitposting in a question thread

>wew you guys are such mean bullies

That's the whole point of anonymous imageboards you know, to have the quality of the content speak for itself rather than the fame of the poster.

When you and didi post quality advice nobody bats an eye because people generally came to expect something worthwhile from you, which made your shitposting all the more annoying.

>>54172

didi is even more retarded

what's the demiurge and why is it bad?

how can I train my memory to remember images better?

>>54172

Oh thanks then, I didn't pay attention to that…I feel stupid right now..I am sorry anon-kun >_<

I will work harder to get better stuff.

±Omran

>>54185

he's right tho, your content is obviously refined and you have that vibe which you can feel from a grandmother preparing a pastry - but then you ruin it all with ponyfaggotry (no offence to the homosexuals)

At least powerpuff girls was legit AF, this new wave of cartoon network crap is just complete garbage and has been shown to reduce IQ of folk.

Stop promoting, even as a joke or satire, one of the prominent social-cultural bullshits which enables and reinforces manlet beta-nice-guy mentality.

>>54178

If what i say gives you cognitive dissonance, it's not because i am retarded it's because your brain isn't at the level required to overstand and innerstand what you attempt to understand, yet. You will get there tho.

>>54188

Relax.

>>54187

Alright ^_^.

I think I understand now, it might have been just a hype I was begin pulled with.Hmmm….my writing style really seem to change when I don't post pony.

Oh well I live and learn.

Now I wonder Why is my name Omran, when in Quran it is Imran and in Bible it is Amram?

>>54187

>>54172

I almost forget to Thank you, guys.

Thank you.

>>54180

>what's the demiurge

http://montalk.net/about/212/glossary#demiurge

>and why is it bad?

http://montalk.net/gnosis/171/corruption-of-the-demiurge

Would a dream catcher work to deter negative entities when going into sleep paralysis or trying to AP?

>>54203

Isn't Ishta-devata like HGA concept?

>>54204

only if it is consecrated/working.

>>54129

>>54127

>Greenpill me on the monad, I've haven't seen it discussed here tbh

>It is perfect and above this piece of shit world.

The above is dependant on the below and the below on the above.

It is all a Holistic construct, we are trapped here by powerful entities who are not evil but rather mediating gate keepers, we cannot grow without constraint and are here for a purpose.

Dislike or indifference to materiality is the start of the process but not the end (it is early initation).

The pagentary, worship and mundaness of the material world is vital in the maintenace of the above.

Read as much as you can about the Neoplatonism of Iamblichus-start with the Theurgy posts on this board. I am not an expert as of yet but I think Plotinus and his world denying Gnostic successors made a serious mistake and you are on the track to poverty of the soul if you continue this attitude.

>>54207

So what your saying Is you agree that this world is shit, but it's shit for a good reading?

And I'm not denying the world but using its shittyness as motivation to become one with the monad.

>>54205

He is the conceptual face you put on the Ultimate which you devote yourself to.

He is not part of a complicated initiatory ritual like the HGA.

Some devotees may be lucky enough to be visited by the worshiped form in person and through his grace he may make them a jivamukta (liberated soul) who is above the worries of Karma and will reunite with Brahman on their death.

There are forms of esoteric Buddhism which involves the meditation on various wisdom Gods as murtis (statues) whose symbology trigger ineffable insight in the prepared practioner, slingshotting him towards enlightenment in one lifetime.

>>54209

Engagement with the world is important yet should be undertaken without attachment. If the world is terrible and ignorant it needs to be transformed, maintance on earth brings equanimity with the heavens.

While reuniting with the monad is a noble pursuit it can become a stumbling block of attachment. Best to be at ease with the world, then turn towards the Monad as a natural action not a desperate act to escape.

It is also important to be not purely inwards turning. Accenstion often takes place through the symbolic interaction with the universe and her building blocks (ie ritual and ceremony both Apollonian ordered and Dionysian chaos).

Exculsive inwards turning may only be useful in the beginning to shed past patterns and views towards the world.

>>54210

One of the best descriptions for the HGA I've heard is that of the Divine Sockpuppet. It's hard, just about impossible, for most people to interact with pure, unfiltered Divinity directly; the old myths have people bursting into flames at the sight of a god's true form. However, we still need that connection, and it needs to be throttled back into a much tinier, much more limited form that we can comprehend and interact with. Thus, the Divine Sockpuppet: a small, almost ridiculous form of Divinity (when compared to Divinity itself) limited just to ourselves that's tailored just for our own eyes, ears, and mind.

It's like trying to charge your cell phone by plugging it directly into the Sun. Needless to say, that won't work, and you'll end up destroying the thing in short order. No, you have to go through a series of throttling back the power of the Sun into light that travels millions of miles into solar panels that transform it into electrical energy that has to be transformed into a proper voltage and put through a wire with the proper connections to interact with your cell phone's battery. Similarly, the HGA is that connection to Divinity, throttled back for us.

What we do with the HGA, once we get contact, is another matter.(you will get synchronicity from the HGA to further your development)

The source for the modern notion of the HGA comes from the Book of Abramelin. The Golden Dawn and Aleister Crowley have written plenty on it, but you could do much worse than to check out Nephilim Press' book they released on the HGA earlier this year.

The most forward path to reach the HGA is devotion.(sometime it take less than 2 week, depending on the burning desire of your to face divinity)

This article really sum up the HGA in a humorous way

http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/ess_hga.html

>>54213

Yea a Ishta-devata is a divine sock-puppet. Your post rings true.

However unlike Crowleys notion, it is not a higer-self but the unindividuated Allness (Unless if partaking in a dualistic school in which he is a seperate God).

It has been a long while since i have read Crowley, I seem to remember an intricate ritual involving summoning and banishing demons and a short monastic period before visitation. There are ordeals which Sadhus undertake in order to be visisted by such a grace giver not unlike this.

However the relationship with the Ishta-Devata is usually one of gradual grades as you build a relationship not a lightning bolt off-on switch and not exlusive to ascetics or tanrikas.

>>54216

even HGA is a gradual process

there is K&C of HGA and then there is Union with HGA.

>>54218

Ah ok. I was only familiar with the latter.

Is smiley a roleplayer or just some deluded fuck?

>>54235

The latter.

Has Smiley left /fringe/? I don't see any posts from him. Is freedomboard ever going to come back? I liked it a lot better there than on 8chan.

What's the backstory of smiley?

is Christianity compatible with occult stuff

>>54246

yes, "real" christianity

>>54247

good good i made the mistake of asking /christian/ and they denied it with bullshit logic

>>54248

good ol alim bey will destroy christians / muslims with a single 10 minute segment of his many talks.

challenge them to watch alim bey or phil valentine breaking down the historical aspects and etymological and factual literature-backed.

>>54247

real christianity is watered down egyptian magick combined with limited eastern concepts, the stories are allegory for human body functions. Jesus is oxygen, lucifer is phosphorous, christ is the kundalini fluid from the base of the spine traveling up to the brain to reach the golgota the skull and be crucified– > go up to the pineal to trigger sero+melo+pinoline →dmt.

>>54251

or you can also ask them why the piso family's fictional bullshit ended up being the old testament they revere.

>>54251

well i don't know about the allegory's being about the human body but, its good too know my love of the occult is compatible with Christianity

>>54251

>real christianity is watered down egyptian magick combined with limited eastern concepts, the stories are allegory for human body functions. Jesus is oxygen, lucifer is phosphorous, christ is the kundalini fluid from the base of the spine traveling up to the brain to reach the golgota the skull and be crucified– > go up to the pineal to trigger sero+melo+pinoline →dmt.

figured as much, just knew that the traditional stuff does not oppose the occult

Damn this testosterone increasing meditation is working really well, but the more I meditate on testosterone increase the more I want to fap afterwards, is it wise to release this energy or is it better to hold it?

>>54261

find your flame. Do sexual tantra magick. Drink the fluids of exchange.

>>54261

hold it and become powerful as fuck bro

>>54261

>this testosterone increasing meditation

what's that?

Anyone have any recommendations on incense? I just bought a few packs from the gnosticteachings site as they are supposedly pretty good. Sadly, both kinds I bought are really smokey, and what unique scent they have gets covered up easily by the smoke. They're not terrible, but I was expecting much more.

>read >>54248

>check out /christian/ out of curiosity

Wow, what a horrible board. Any differing opinion is met with cries of heresy and a lot of the posters there seem really narrow-minded.

>>54276

Hem is good. Candles are probably a better choice because they won't make you smell like smoke.

pic related smells excellent.

>>54244

I don't know, but I want to know more about smiley too.

>>54243

Yes, he is addicted to drawing/drawing in denial.

Can anybody give Me some guidance on where to begin with meditation? I want to lucid dream/astral project, visit dimensions. Experience voids and trances. Can someone tell me where to begin? The internet is full of bogus new agers and mundanes but I want to experience the mystical.

>>53508

so is it okay if the thoughts or your mind is just thinking about shit but you're not caring enough and thus ignoring it?

>>54276

>>check out /christian/ out of curiosity

>Wow, what a horrible board.

Some of the worst fedoras are actually Christcucks.

>Magic? Ridiculous!

>I have personal conversations with a Jewish desert demon every day, sometimes he grants my wishes

>>54301

pretty much yea. you need to observe without judgement but try to guide yourself back to the breath.

be too loose with the mind chatter and it will carry you away, be too firm with it and the chatter will dominate due to you focusing on repressing it too much.

be calm and detached and with practice you will be able to see thoughts for what they are and achieve a thoughtless samadhi with ease.

Has anyone done any work with the qilopth? If you have any good resources to get into working with and opening up the energies I would be well appreciative. Share any good experiences if you've had any as well.

>>54300

Smiley should add a running dinosaur below the sticky and the FAQ.

Start with the Kybalion and other recommended books, all of which you can find the MEGA archive in the sticky.

>>54336

Browse through the catalog, there was a thread on jewish magic here somewhere but good luck finding it since it's bee buried with shitposting threads since the last time someone bumped it.

It had a whole bunch of info on every sephira and other neat things.

>>54244

Just ask himself on /ask/ but he's basically the old admin of /fringe/, from the days of old freedomboard and beyond.

Too bad you weren't here for Smiley's wacky adventures of monthly ascension rituals, him almost getting tricked into killing himself, saving his chubby girlfriend from mysterious black wizards and his creation of Fringe Illuminates hellbent on stopping some Neo-Reactionary cucks and generally stroking their wands about their super seekret club.

Someone should make a movie about him really, it's a shame the title is already taken.

>>54212

How much do you agree with Evola's view on how the differentiated man should live his life?

I'm trying to think whether it's ok to get mad over my race slowly being bred out of existence with the whole goal of taking the stance of apoliteia.

>>54338

>How much do you agree with Evola's view on how the differentiated man should live his life?

I'm trying to think whether it's ok to get mad over my race slowly being bred out of existence with the whole goal of taking the stance of apoliteia.

not the same guy, but don't be so gloomy, people in europe are rapidly swallowing the red pill due to the sudden immigration crisis and protests were organized, that said, whenever i think about people,politicians allowing stuff like this to happen it makes my blood boil, I haven't decided yet if i want to be indifferent to the world around me or I should do something to change it yet.

>>54338

Smileberg

Isolation, Depression, Ascension, Fringe Wizardry, and White Power – The True Imageboard Story

What happens when an unstoppable force meets immovable autism?

Find out in theaters this summer…

What is the easiest way to astral travel?

I need to know.

>>54371

this

>>54338

I haven't read Evola.

Anger is usually a waste of energy which clouds judgement and leads to unskillful action. Unless if you have the discipline to channel it into worthwhile pursuits.

I would say the best course of action is to raise yourself above the morass through clean positive living to set an example to your kin. Do not waste money or time frivolously, find a like minded woman and have children.

Openly communicate with people willing it listen but do not stoop to denigration of outsiders or ideologically muddled or naive kinfolk. Do not confuse the symptoms with the disease which is larger and more complex than all victims and players. Do not chase phantoms down rabbit warrens of demonisation of certain groups or fixate your gaze exlusively on one issue.

If the sheer scope of it brings despair, bring the awareness back to the present and be mindful of everday blessings and the good you can do at this moment.

why does didi only shill black occultist?

>>54386

because he's black himself i guess

>>54386

They be jivin' his rythmn bey.

>>54387

he's so much for equality but supports black supremacists

>>54391

In fairness from what I have heard on his favourite podcast, the hosts and guests are mainly ex-esoteric black supremisists who have gotten past all that inferiority neurosis.

didi is pretty based, but can be very firm and stubbon in his views and sometimes jumps the gun.

Regardless I appreciate his passion and energy.

>>54396

what do you mean by ex-esoteric? If they're still black supremacists then they're still racist

>>54397

he mean ex-esoteric-black-nationalists lol

>>54398

>he mean ex-esoteric-black-nationalists lol

ya whoops misleadin' on my part

>>54336

https://paulorucker.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/thomas-karlsson-qabala-qliphoth-goetic-magic.pdf

i reccomend this book (too big to upload here)

Why is covering one eye considered satanic in media? Why would they put le secret evil stuff in the media at all?

How do I direct Energy to a specific part of the body? I haven't read on this topic much, but what i'm doing now is just imagining a current of energy entering that body part

>>54441

You're doin it right. You can also build up energy and direct it to a body part using something like the middle pillar.

>>54443

Any stuff you'd recommend reading about this?

>>54444

Not energy work in particular. I hear Robert Bruce is good for energy work though.

Try this for how to do the middle pillar >>47073 Use the relaxation script too, gets you closer to theta brainstate where you can work with energy better.

I've been meditating daily in the past weeks (breathing meditation, while trying to inhale deep) and I've noticed that during meditation my mind feels like it's morphing, like things in there are actually moving, sometimes I even feel little bits of pain.

Is this normal? Is there a possibility that there is something wrong and I should go to a doctor? I only feel these while meditating.

>>54456

>mind

Meant to say "my brain", my actuall brain.

To my fellow Germanics, it has been recently revealed to me by a trusted friend and his guide that I ought to look into Germanic shamanism.

I've done a quick google search which honestly only brought up shitty new age assholes who went to school (??? wtf) to learn shamanistic practices.

So I come to my beloved /fringe/, with a request for recommendations of legitimate authors and books for me to read and look into to learn about my ancestry and how to come into contact with my ancestors so they may guide me and I may enhance my practice.

Thanks guys, much love

>>54406

I appreciate that very much.

>>54440

Meme magic maybe? Or maybe they just get off to it. "lol we're doing it right in their faces and they don't even know it"

>>54076

Funny how I guessed that. What your experiencing is pretty mundane though, i think. I think you saw all the references before and you just didn't realize it because your mind filtered it. I believe that you actually you see everything in your field of view at once in the back of your mind, and when that part notices something of interest your attention is brought to it. The other day I saw a random post with someone talking about their last name Newman. The post wasn't interesting or significant, yet the next day I drove past a billboard I already drove past a couple times but this time I noticed it said Newman. The mind is weird.

>>54462

I would suggest checking out Uncle bearheart on youtube and his stuff with the grand order of draco slayers. He's pretty much the only Germanic pagan I've ever heard of.

>>54462

I've tried digging before for Germanic shaminism, but I didn't really find much after searching long.

>>54462

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBM__aIrb5o&list=PL6-Dryr_1_EjyG5MoNcNYl7nae6NV0Lqi

Playlist of rituals and videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/1HardcoreHadaway/videos

http://www76.zippyshare.com/v/CbtMy8Mn/file.html Also the articles he did before they were taken of from probably the government. If anyone here is a ceremonial magician I recommend this stuff because it's the most pure and strong version you'll find of the stuff.

>>54467

>>54466

>>54470

Thank you brothers, I'll look into your recommendations.

But the search is not over! Anyone who holds any more information is encouraged to come forward and share out of love for the tradition!

Thanks again fellows

>>54487

you're pretty much me, i will continue searching for a way to change this world, but until i find a way, i will be indiferrent to the politics and social issues, at the time being i fear not for myself but for the world i will leave behind when i have children

>>54488 (Hitler dubs checked)

Good to know more people like me exist, I hope you're reading up on philosophy to gain inspiration for the answer we seek.

I don't really like Evola that much btw. His writing style is barely readable and I don't agree with him on everything but I'd still recommend that you causally go through some of his works.

In his Ride the Tiger, he argues that the quality of his "differentiated men", the ones who don't belong to the world they're born in, us essentially, is not hereditary.

This he subtly uses to advocate asceticism and prevention of more soulless "masses" being born but my desire to leave a better world is not limited to just my own kids which I still plan to have, but the next, hopefully better generation which will inherit the knowledge that countless writers before us, and perhaps ourselves one day will leave for the next people who will keep the fire lit.

>>54490

At the time being I'm still studying on the books in the sticky

what do you mean by

>In his Ride the Tiger, he argues that the quality of his "differentiated men", the ones who don't belong to the world they're born in, us essentially, is not hereditary.

?

>>54492

Evola's book, surprised you've never heard of it.

In the chapter on marriage, he says that it's unnecessary for people like us to marry and reproduce, as "aristocrats of the soul" like ourselves will incarnate regardless of their family background.

Meaning that even the most materialistic family of yokels might give life to a future wizard.

>>54493

I get it, still i need to confirm such stuff for myself

How much time of the day do you guys dedicate to studying this stuff?

>>54490

Are you by chance the anon that wrote the thread about creating spiritual legacies of a sort to leave behind you and continue influencing the masses after you yourself would have ascended or died?

I was thinking of writing something up myself in a few days about magical/spiritual development while still doing "outward" work for the betterment of people around you in a few days to have a discussion and to have Omran and didi bitch about it, because it's going to take race into account. I think it would be worthwhile and, frankly, taking reincarnation into account, quite necessary.

>>54506

It took me a minimum or 3 hours a day for about 8 months to read enough books, montalk articles and the old fringe site that I might get a somewhat clear understanding for myself. Maybe that's a bit of overkill for some, but I needed it.

>>54511

You still practiced daily too right?

What is the general opinion here on the necronomicon or babylonian magic?

>>54512

Yes, but not as much as I'd like. Frankly, I felt like I didn't know what I should go for and how to best achieve it.

As said, some can do both at the same time for good results.

>>54487

>>54490

>In the chapter on marriage, he says that it's unnecessary for people like us to marry and reproduce, as "aristocrats of the soul" like ourselves will incarnate regardless of their family background.

>Even dying for something I would believe to be right would have been better than constantly fighting the overbearing frustration brought by my inability to change the world for the better.

Overcoming difficulty in spite of the odds requires courage. Couragous acts accrue honor.

The longing for a "noble" death these days tends to flow from a despairing suicidal drive to depart and impotently bite something without being around for the ramifications. Most suicide bombers for instance are weak not strong.

If you are racially minded be aware that the proper cultivation of the family unit is more noble and courageous than the misanthropic antipathy of society and seclusion on an imagined aristocratic throne.

Repair bonds or/and make your own communities.

Learn practical skills- how to garden, farm, build. There are people all over Europe wanting to reform communities and not be beholden to the sociopathic beancounters.

One thing Smiley has got totally right is the importance of growing food. Even if you cannot fully sustain yourself, it attaches you to the soil/land.

Your blood and this dark earth.

So with the right hand path you help others and with left hand path help yourself? Why not do both?

>>54375

I will look into it thanks.

what happens on september 23, why is the date important?

>>54540

It's my birthday.

It's important cus if I don't get decent presents I will punch you in the face.

How do I activate the metagene factor?

>>54525

exactly.

What do the Jews really worship? Some say Satan, some say Moloch. Is Satan really a bad dude?

What are Christians really worshipping? Is Christianity just a big loosh-farming pyramid scheme?

Do the entities in the Lesser Key of Solomon favor Jews? Would they be hostile to me if I am a doity anti-semite?

>>54470

>>54466

Hey brothers, any way for me to get an invite to the blog: http://grandorderofdracoslayers.blogspot.com/

?

my email is yourface(dot)myface(at)gmail(dot)com

>>54550

Sadly as mentioned it had been attacked and shut down. Though that third link I posted has about 80% of the rituals and articles.

>>54551

That's unfortunate, luckily we have the videos.

I also found this:

http://slayers58.rssing.com/chan-26024999/all_p1.html

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpmdXuBd8bXrmBGgedLATRg

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBefthrzOjJloM610p3QaWg

Thank you for all the help btw brother.

Also, you use the Taoism icon. Do you practice qi-gong? Are you familiar with any inner alchemy books/videos that are worthwhile?

Unfortunately I'm currently enrolled in university and am about to start an internship related to my field of study, so I'll be too busy to focus as much time and energy as I'd like into occult studies. My hope is to absorb the best of the best and syncretize it into my own form of Divine Worship so that I may clean/purify all my vehicles and become a pure walking reflection of the One Will.

>>54554

Yes Taoism is my main practice and study.I used to study Hermetic ceremonial magic and Qabbalah though now I do practice Qi-gong and develop my own forms of magic and practices.

The greatest book as an introduction is Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways. This gets you familiar with feeling energy and the basic chakra system. After that I suggest you work through Mantak Chia's progression system.

https://kat.cr/mantak-chia-toaist-studies-series-t3157266.html All of his work can be found here.

If you just want the books then here is a link. https://kat.cr/mantak-chia-books-english-editions-massive-t875005.html

You should be able to find what books to read in what order roughly online. Though awaken healing light is probably the best all rounder to start with.

The links above are videos and books though he does also have videos on youtube (most of these lectures in the download link are on youtube as well). Other than Mantak Chia I honestly haven't been able to find anyone else worthwhile in the practical Taoist field online. Though there is one good 1k page medical Qi-gong manual in one of the fringe libraries. I don't recommend it unless you feel medical Qi-gong if your personal life path. I find spiritual Qi-gong works just as well.

>>54554

I'll be making a chakra/ qi gong thread sometime soon as well since this board is severely lacking any information on it.

>>54556

>>54555

Thank you. Funnily enough I've had that first mantak chia torrent downloaded for years. Since before I became interested in the occult. I'll start with Bruce's N.E.W.

googled, the progrssion:

>Level 1. Inner smile, six healing sounds (SHS book not out yet)

>Level 1b. (optional) Chi self massage, Tao Yin (Book: Energy Balance through the Tao)

>Level 2. Microcosmic Orbit (books: Awaken Healing Energy, Healing Light of the Tao; DVDs: Guided Sitting Meditation, Awaken Healing Light)

>Level 3. Iron Shirt Chi Kung

sound about right to you?

>>54559

>>>54559

>Yeah just about. First learn the inner smile to get you in touch with your organs and feeling negative and positive energy. Also learn the 6 healing sounds. They're incredible if you face a lot of toxic people or situations in life and need to de-rage or de-stress/ de any negative emotion. Next the microcosmic orbit which is pretty much the crown jewel of the Taoist energy work daily practices.

>After those three it's really optional but Iron shirt and all the other chi-kung stuff is great suplamentary material before going into his higher stuff with the pakua, elements and kan and li fusing.

>>54560

Did not mean to greentext that.

>>54561

All good, thanks for the info.

Hopefully soon we can have some more in-depth convos once I am more familiar with and have experienced the effects of Bear Heart's rituals and Chia's exercises.

I want to learn about the Monad. The one on the outside and inside, but I can barely find anything about it on the internet. Where do you find information on it?

>>54511

>Are you by chance the anon that wrote the thread about creating spiritual legacies

Nope, but I've considered that too and to instill my vision into my children so that they may continue my work once I meet my physical death.

Looking forward to your thread.

>>54521

I'd like to clarify that those two paths were something I consider similarly bad as I certainly don't idealize dying for anything.

I want to win, and I want to see the fruits of my labor.

Plus I'm a STEM student who's green/red pilling some people with potential on the side, the least I can do at the moment.

>>54525

You can and should do both, don't fall for the ruse of there only existing two possible exclusive paths to follow.

>>54540

Prophecies range from an inter-dimensional portals opening at CERN or a global economic collapse.

Just pick whichever you like more and hope that it happens.

>>54549

>What do the Jews really worship?

Money and power, the deities they use in their rituals are just tools for them.

>Is Satan really a bad dude?

You'll get different answers depending on who you ask. I think he's a potent thoughtform like any other.

>What are Christians really worshipping?

The Christian God.

>Is Christianity just a big loosh-farming pyramid scheme?

Yes for the most part.

>Do the entities in the Lesser Key of Solomon favor Jews? Would they be hostile to me if I am a doity anti-semite?

I think Crowley used the same Goetic Demons in his evokations so I don't think they care much for whether you're jewish or not.

what are some things I could practice to see results, so I could judge it for myself if it's real or not?

>>54567

I'm currently in the process of making a qi gong / energy work thread. Give me an hour and that'll be up. It's all practical work that you can find benefit for yourself and actually feel results from.

>>54549

Jews were a henotheistic tribe (believed in other Gods but didn't worship them).

The God of the Torah is their God of War, Blood and Destruction which they made a pact (covenant) with. It was initially a local deity (Semites had local deities which were in conflict with the gods of other hostile Semites).

This Deitiy rose in their estimations as the God of all creation due to their hubris and pride proclaiming themselves the Chosen people of all creation by the sole creator.

If you read the Torah it is clear that this deity cares only for this one Tribe and advocates the destruction and slavery of other people.

Unlike Christianity it is not a life denying religion- it is very focused on the present accumulation of wealth, power and resources by any means (So long as it does not harm other Jews).

After the destruction of the second temple and the occupation of the Romans they reframed themselves from ethnocentric empire builders (Dream of Greater Israel) to nomadic wanders living down the shame of not fulfilling their expected promise (refer to the Talmud for more information).

The modern state of Israel is an abberration of the reframed faith, according to their prophecies they are not meant to return to their "Holy Land" until the messiah of their war God comes and punishes the Gentiles.

>>54588

I think one possible answer is the focus of intention. A billion Muslims are praying to Allah mainly for their own selfish nonsense. They also wish to support their own varying interpretations of Allah's will, which usually includes spreading over the world, and now they're successfully invading Europe like a plague.

Ebola-chan clearly failed to create an epidemic, but thanks to the initial outbreak being a news-worthy event, I'm sure even more people were acting against that outcome. But if a "small" group of people create an egregore and give it extremely specific purposes, and each person invokes it for the intended purpose only, and there aren't other agencies acting in opposition, perhaps you can get noteworthy results.

Though another problem with most Muslims (and Christians and Jews) is a complete lack of balance. The ones who are praying for conquest are typically not very grounded, even if their message is being transmitted properly (and it's not), it's not a very strong one.

>>54566

>>54586

Thank you for the explanations.

>>54586

so if their god is a war god who is jesus christ

>>54602

One of many false Messiahs who were poping up during the Roman occupation and general Rabbinical Degeneracy.

Whatever power his symbol has would be due to the mixing with the Mystery Schools of the ancient world such as the Cult of Mithras and Isis.

>>54603

who is gonna beat the jews war god

>>54603

who's the true messiah?

>>54607

Perhaps there is an avatar who will move the cycle forward or to an end.

Or perhaps such questions are not valid and only due to the conditioning of an Abrahamic culture?

>>54605

If gentiles as a collective ignore them and cultivate themselves (This include detangling themselves from destructive institutions and becoming more self-reliant).

Yaweh is most invested in wars which distablise his foes and strengthen Israel, this is his modus operandi in this age.

Is it safe to say that most people at the top of their game(either career or just skill) have come into their power using occult means?

>>54616

Consciously, no.

unconsciously, Yes.

>>54617

what do you mean by that?

should cuckolds be punishable by death? I believe so

>>54618

Unconscious use of law of attraction

>>54616

I know a very successful guy who runs his own company. He doesn't believe in magic but he uses almost exactly the same techniques as Neville Goddard. That said he is also very smart and very hardworking.

He also uses such visualization to train for the the sport he is interested in and has competed successfully against professionals before.

I wonder if that feeling of being "in the zone" in a sport is some kind of magic. Like when you know with utter certainty that your technique is going to succeed before you do it and it is almost as if you are just along for the ride, watching it unfold perfectly as a dispassionate observer.

I'm interested in the learning chaos magic…

Where the fuck do I start?

Is there a "path" I can follow in terms of books?

This magic shit is so confusing to an outsider.

I've read the Kybalion and a couple books on the qabalah but I really want to learn about chaos magic.

>>54634

https://mega.nz/#F!f9hTgQID!O8ScHmvCAh0MxswPIIFlxw

Try hands on chaos magick, is very practical based.

Hopefully someone else can give you a more theory based book if you're looking for that.

>>54634

If you want something noob friendly you should start with Phil Hine's "Condensed Chaos", and then start practicing with Liber Null from Peter Carrol.

But remember, Chaos Magic is just a very little approach to magic itself. The rest you should learn from a whole variety of systems and approaches.

>>54634

Oven Ready Chaos by Phil Hine

Advanced Magick for Beginners by Alan Chapman

The Sorcerors Secret by Jason Miller

In that order. But if I was going to recommend only one book to begin attempting practice, I would say Advanced Magick for Beginners. It gets to practical stuff faster than any other books I have read. Some may say this is a bad thing, I personally learn much faster from hands-on work.

>>54637

I'm readying Advanced Magick right now…

These techniques are crazy, cant wait to try them in a bit and see if I get results!

Thank you for the guidance.

>>54636

This morning I quickly skimmed through condensed chaos.

Drugs are a big no no for me (mental illness runs in my family) so I try to avoid most mediums that discus/ promote them. So Liber Null is off limits for me.

>>54635

I downloaded this book last night.

After I finish AM4B and TSS I'll get around to this. Thanks for the advice.

I read in the Practice of Magical Evocation that sorcerers would summon undines and such and take them for wife. Is that a thing? Good idea? Bad? Can anybody tell me about it?

>>54661

Spirits, even though they are outside of the circle, have a profound ability to influence your mind. They are able to instantly know your deepest fears, strongest desires, and innermost thoughts. This is why profound elemental equilibrium/elemental mastery is necessary before evocations. A magician who has true elemental equilibrium is like a fortress; you cannot push him to any extreme. Thus, when an undine becomes a woman infinitely more beautiful than he has ever seen before, and tries to seduce him, he will remain unperturbed and resist her/it. Elementals often try to exaggerate the elements within you.

>>54621

Not sure about the technical esoteric term for the sensation but this phenomena is often the prelude to sleep paralysis/lucid dreaming/oobe.

If you manage to maintain relaxed altertness during this between state interesting things will present themselves to you.

>>54661

I didn't summon undines but I have once found myself in one of their astral realms during my travels.

They're pretty cool, swam around their infinite ocean and gave me some pointers on using the water element.

As far as having a spirit as your wife, the other anon has already specified the necessary precaution.

If you're reading the Practice of Magical Evocations you have practiced your way through steps 1-8 in the IIH, right?

Do you guys think it's "safe" for a beginner so jump straight to IIH and it's practices?

Or do you have any recommended books/practices I should start before studying it?