/fringe/ - Fringe

This is probably a really simple answer, but I can't get over it. If fate does not exist, how can we choose our lives path before reincarnation? I understand how seeing the future is more like seeing possible effects from present causes, but how could an entire life be predicted before it's started without calling it fate?

>>55818

Fate does exist, in 5th density they give you choices on what life you can have. They show you everything that's going to happen, well at least the major points. Your freewill can change the direction of a lot of shit, however the main purpose and point of your incarnation and the lessons you are going to learn will always be there. Essentially you had a reason for choosing your life, and that's kind of what your here to remember.

>>55820

Email me here: https://mega.nz/#!ioYzTLTb!3n1LxNIrvtF8zLhNal4faya00pRQkPCby89kOwH4A3c

I'll get you a defence book I don't share publically.

>>55825

ur mom

>>55825

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>>55825

Why would you get to the point where you can enter the astral and have sex psychically and waste your loosh on lust?

Not to say it doesn't sound amazing

Why is it that a handful of genuine anti-racists feel comfortable here? For all this boards life it has rallied against these types and now it allows them to mingle?

I assume the original user base has since moved on from /fringe/

I will take it upon myself to remind all the

anti-whites

niggers

spics

chinks

gooks

chugs

mongrels

half-breeds

fags

and

tranny's

that the flesh shell you have incarnated in is disgusting and no amount of pseudo-mystic rationalizing (rambling) will change that. Maybe next time you subhumans will get to play on the good team.

>>55836

lol all humans were made at the same time.

Only technical difference

Nordics are more aggressive and physically apt, they are white because they originate from a species that was farther from the sun.

Asians have more natural spiritual ability

Natives/blacks are more in tune with the earths vibration.

The reason why there are so called "anti-racists" is because none of the superiority crap is actually factual. Also because anyone who wants to leave this god forsaken realm has rid themselves of ignorance and prejudice in exchange for higher celestial truth and knowledge. Except for the satanists of course.

>>55838

>is because none of the superiority crap is actually factual

Hey kiddo

>crime

>iq

>history

>culture

>not factual

Have you ever interacted with an Aborigines? Have you ever met a pack of thug niggers? Have you ever been on a reserve? Have you ever come face to face at night with aggressive Muslims (sandniggers)?

>has rid themselves of ignorance and prejudice in exchange for higher celestial truth and knowledge

Did you learn that in the New Age book your mom bought you from Chapters?

>crap

Get to bed champ

>god forsaken realm

>forsaken

>god

Son…

>lol all humans were made at the same time

back to /x/, kid

>>55836

>>55841

Despicable creature.

>>55841

This is the edgyest respone ever. Holy shit, don't even. I can't believe you think statistics and history is accurate. You do realize the entire world is pretty fake and society is specifically designed for you to think that nonsense. New Age book your mom joke? go back to /x/? I don't even need to respond to that, that shits just self explanatory.

>>55825

Someone should probably answer this, you know for research purposes. DO IT.

So I'm trying to work through the IIH but am getting kinda stuck on the first step, controlling your own thoughts.

I can go for about 1-2 mins at most and then the most random thoughts keep popping up.

Anyone else struggled with this? Any tips/alternative methods would be appreciated.

>>55844

>>55845

This is bait, if you want to 'farm loosh' go somewhere else.

>>55858

mad /pol/cuck

Anyone have tips on developing willpower? I need to fight a food addiction.

>>55847

Trust me that mindfulness meditation is not an easy task. It will take months before you will solidly be able to control your mind. You need to understand that thoughts survive and thrive on your emotional energy. Allow them to pass through you like clouds or a stream of water. Any interaction will only serve to strengthen them. Also never allow yourself to grow angry or disappointed at your failure. Feel free to continue onto the next step in your book as it's one better done multiple steps at a time.

how can you use pure will to manifest changes in your reality?

>>55633

>>55690

>>55691

bump for these questions, interested as well

>>55874

The ceremony acts as a way to build up and call upon energy. Energies are what we would call spirits. Thus you're calling up some non physical friends to help you with your goal. Either way both of them work. But there's no ritual like an evocation. Most effective as well.

>>55825

Frankly can't tell what's supposed to be the difference between Psychic sex and Astral sex but people have reported those to be superior to the physical version. Though I highly doubt they have any physical experience to compare to.

Likewise, thoughtforms/astral beings are supposed to be superior. In particular undines if you want some gentle loving.

What books should I read to change my reality? I'm basically in it for materialistic reasons, but I want to change myself too

What's the fastest guide to open all chakras and raise the kundalini safely?

I want to be a girl. How would I even start?

Is this b8,shill,disinfo or what?

>>55868

>>55845

Seriously kid, you're too young to post here. The expression "the adults are talking" exists for a reason. When you can leave the kiddie table, your posts might be respected.

>>55844

Be gone, husk

>>55865

He's fresh out of 9th grade social sciences. He'll learn.

>>55816

From my own experience, just write. Get good at writing shit ideas so whenever you have a good idea you already have the practice at making it better.

>>55825

It depends on your current level. If you're bad at convincing real life girls to fuck you, then that is the thing that will help you grow the most specially if you're kinda afraid of it.

After getting good at it (and quite frankly getting to know a lot of people in the process of trying to get good) you may try sex with fem wizards, but those are hard to find.

Going to other dimensions for sex might be a wonderful learning experience if, and only if, you do it once in a while and for learning purposes.

>>55836

nothing better than an idiot with an unhealthy superiority complex and sense of entitlement to make the day brighter

>>55841

>crime

Because statistics surely reflect the reality of each individual on that demographic.

>iq

Because iq actually means something in /fringe/ matters.

>history

Because looking at history and interpreting through the little experience you have of the world is not biased at all. Plus implying we're better off now then before as if you actually knew.

>culture

Be honest here, have you even experienced anything about real african culture? I'm mean the real ones, not the jewish television ones. Not to mention the fact of course that african culture is made for blacks, not whites, judging it as worst because it doesn't fit your particular preferences is ridiculous beyond thinking

>not factual

It is not factual

I won't mind with the rest of your post as you already proved my previous points. The masses are dumb and idiotic in all races. Then below average people appear, like yourself, and reminds us of how bad the average could be.

>>55869

I would recommend Retrospection as in vid related.

>>55847

Well the one who identifies the thoughts that should be controlled, is a thought to begin with. Try noticing this during your meditation practices. From personal experience, when I understand this thoroughly (as in I understand without thinking about it) all other thoughts go into random directions and lose all relation to each other, like machines moving by inertia, til eventually the friction caused by immediate experience stop them naturally.

>>55883

>materialistic reasons

I'd suggest Napoleon Hill. I've only read Outwitting the Devil but it seems fitting.

>>55884

>fast

>safely

choose one

>>55885

kill yourself. But seriously if you were born a man you can never become a woman in this lifetime. So kill yourself and better luck next time, or give up on that idea.

>>55889

sorta but not really. Repeating anything in your head will annihilate your current self, because all of your energy will be directed towards one thing, and since that thing is in itself meaningless the practice will delete a lot of previous programming. Not for everyone though, try and see what you think of it. Also get your own mantra, don't get stuck in words.

>>55895

smiley?

>>55895

what an attention whore

>>55897

nope

>>55895

don't answer questions if you don't know the answer faggot

>>55898

>>55900

lel

>>55895

Can you explain this more in-depth?

>Repeating anything in your head will annihilate your current self, because all of your energy will be directed towards one thing, and since that thing is in itself meaningless the practice will delete a lot of previous programming.

>>55903

A huge part of our experience is based in our mental state. The mental state itself usually (but it is not limited to) depends on the kind of thoughts we are having. Most of our thoughts are made by imagining sound. By chanting, that is repeating sound over and over again in a rhythmic manner, we stop listening to other sounds. That means that by chanting the previous sounds you were imagining disappear simply because you are giving more "energy" or focused attention to the sound you are chanting.

In order to accomplish this the sound doesn't need to have a meaning, it doesn't need to be a word even. In fact it is better if the sound doesn't come with a meaning, since the objective is to extinguish the thoughts you were having before it is better if you don't interpret the sound through the lens of your previous mental state.

Of course this is only enough to stop the previous programming not to change it for something else. Meaning that it is up to you what you do after it.

>>55904

lel keep being useless it's entertaining.

>>55903

A huge part of our experience is based in our mental state. The mental state itself usually (but it is not limited to) depends on the kind of thoughts we are having. Most of our thoughts are made by imagining sound. By chanting, that is repeating sound over and over again in a rhythmic manner, we stop listening to other sounds. That means that by chanting the previous sounds you were imagining disappear simply because you are giving more "energy" or focused attention to the sound you are chanting.

In order to accomplish this the sound doesn't need to have a meaning, it doesn't need to be a word even. In fact it is better if the sound doesn't come with a meaning, since the objective is to extinguish the thoughts you were having before it is better if you don't interpret the sound through the lens of your previous mental state.

Of course this is only enough to stop the previous programming not to change it for something else. Meaning that it is up to you what you do after it.

>>55904

lel must have been fun projecting

>>55836

>Nordics are more aggressive and physically apt, they are white because they originate from a species that was farther from the sun.

Not exactly correct. Nordics have great forward planing due to having to deal with very harsh winters. They have martial ability if need be (such as expanding West and East when their inferior plow was unable to sustain the frozen soil of Norway). You had to be strong, but impulsive chimping out would harm the community. On average I would say Nordics are the most stoic of the European groups.

Tend towards egalitarianism which works well on a small scale and without the interference of out-groups (a ting was democratic and leaders were not that distant from their free peers).

>>55865

>Nordics aren't a pure group despite there being a certain nordic archetype. Blood type and rh factor are more important than phenotype in Europe to make distinctions in this racial clusterfuck.

Nordics as in hallstatt Swedes are the most pure Europeans and the closest to the ancient Europeans. Other Scandinavians are admixtures and other cultural-linguistic-ethnic Germanics even moreso.

>>55836

>Nordics are more aggressive and physically apt, they are white because they originate from a species that was farther from the sun.

Not exactly correct. Nordics have great forward planing due to having to deal with very harsh winters. They have martial ability if need be (such as expanding West and East when their inferior plow was unable to sustain the frozen soil of Norway). You had to be strong, but impulsive chimping out would harm the community. On average I would say Nordics are the most stoic race of European.

Tend towards egalitarianism which works well on a small scale and without the interference of out-groups (a ting was democratic and leaders were not that distant from their free peers).

>Nordics aren't a pure group despite there being a certain nordic archetype. Blood type and rh factor are more important than phenotype in Europe to make distinctions in this racial clusterfuck.

Nordics as in hallstatt Swedes are the most pure Europeans and the closest to the ancient Europeans. Other Scandinavians are admixtures and other cultural-linguistic-ethnic Germanics even moreso.

Fuck it guy's this whole pointless race war thing is polluting the whole fucking board. Now you want to put some race bullshit on the question thread ?

Are you so degenerate that you need a fucking designed race war thread to put all your crap in it ?

Don't spoil the whole board in your loosh trap because you are incapable of dealing with your external world and have to blame your outer circumstances on others.

Shit don't change unless you get up and wash your ass, so just do it. Get up and change what it is you want to change. If you can't try harder, but please stop whining about it on an occult board, we are here for power,knowledge and spiritual advancement, not to be your therapist.

Is this /pol/, /natsoc/, /edgy/ ? No fuckers, it's /fringe/ now contain yourself or get out and don't you try to spew shit on how freedomboard's fringe was designed for esoteric natsocs. Times have obviously changed and I hope your idol isn't that degenerate genetic diseased smileberg anymore. This autist can't even care for himself.

I know there's already a thread on natural production, but is it worth taking DMT for a spiritual experience? I've heard that drugs are generally bad for the spirit but I feel like DMT would get me on the right track to start taking magick seriously. I've never done any drugs before either, so I don't want to destroy my brain by overdoing it the first time. Should I take anything to prepare like LSD to get used to hallucinating or just dive in?

>>55912

You got it wrong brother, DMT already exists in your brain you use it every night, it won't harm your spirit like other drugs might. It's not really necessary though, meditation is a good enough start to this kind of stuff. If you want to get a good hard look at yourself I recommend ayahuasca, DMT will be really intense but really fast. Be aware though that it is possible to encounter a neg spirit in the higher realms even on DMT. You need to let the trip take you in, you can't resist it.

So let's figure this out here and now. Rituals are crutches aren't they? They brute force a change in reality. Rituals are only used by negs anyway right? Like in the LBRP you gotta chant yahweh right, but isn't yahweh like supposed to be evil or something? Or maybe I'm getting this wrong, correct me please.

In what cases would you select invocation over evocation? What are the strengths and weaknesses of each?

Why do I feel movement in and around my head? What's with the ear ringing? Are you guys protected from EMF's? Which methods do you use?

i constantly see the number 34. any meaning to this?

>>55895

Attention whoring disinfo agent. Die in a fire.

>>55922

Rule 34, if it exists there is porn for it. Fap furiously and get acces to le faplightenment.

Boy what a fucking great thread, where are the fucking answers? There are so many ways to do LBRP, which one is the best one?

>>55911

/fringe/ is a board affiliated with /pol/ and there's nothing you can do about it, keep being buttblasted about it.

>>55918

>Rituals are crutches aren't they?

in a way, there's no reason to deny yourself using them since spiritual development to the point where you can will things to happen immediately is quite a long process.

>Rituals are only used by negs anyway right?

certainly not, plenty of healing and other good rituals out there

>isn't yahweh like supposed to be evil or something?

it's a thoughtform, what you use it for is entirely up to your discretion.

is fire evil if it burns down houses when used by arsonists?

apply that logic to Yahveh and jews.

>>55919

Briefly, an invocation pulls a being into you, a possession of sorts. You undergo some changes and acquire some of the essence of the being you invoked. Depending on what the being represents. For example if you invoked Mars the god of war you'd become more warlike and willful in accordance with the fire element.

Evocation is a more external experience, summoning a being in a magical circle you prepared and actively communicating with it, maybe making some offerings in return for help or advice, whatever you need.

Ultimately why you'd decide to use one over the other would depend on your goal.

>>55921

Your 3rd eye is probably becoming more and more active. It happens if someone starts doing a whole lot of visualization.

Ear ringing usually indicates someone watching you or trying to influence you. It's sometimes followed by a sudden rush of drowsiness, especially when you're reading a book about magic. Check your defenses and reinforce those energy shields and it won't be a problem.

>>55942

LBRP is famous for being modular. If you haven't used it before, follow the jewish version to the letter. If your system of belief doesn't put much power into angels and such, modify the holy names accordingly.

The best LBRP is the one you personally resonate with and feel to be the best one. Ideally follow your instincts and say what feels right, that should be the best version for you.

>>55949

please go, disinfo shill

>>55895

I appreciate the video very much.

>>55954

stop spamming on this board, you freaking retard

>>55884

book of knowledge would be your best bet

>>55904

what do you know about shapeshifting?

>>55963

You'll alwas be sick with that attitude of yours.

>>55884

The Tao anon literally made a thread about it. Overall Energy work for at least 2 months and afterwards energize whole energy body -> start loading up root chakra with energy. Do your own research and read more if you don't want to spontaneously combust from improper kundalini raising.

>>55965

>spontaneously combust

kek what

what are the pros of an awakened kundalini?

>>55836

[Hyperborean wrath intensifies]

Blood is everything, still people here seem to believe that muh visualization will change anything.

>>55908

This guys gets it.

Nordics aren't aggressive. We're just better at organizing violence, when there is need for it.

Also, asians are everything but spiritual. I'm sure you're thinking about buddhism, so let me get to the point: buddhism is a cult of death of the ego disguised as hippy bullshit.

Asians have higher iq but they lack something whites have, otherwise they would have conquered the world themselves.

>>55967

a big dick

So i've read most of the essential books here, I still can't decide where to start, for one, when I relax I can visualize for infinite ammounts of time without my concentration being broken, idk, I just never had trouble with this, I meditate daily when I go to bed until I fall asleep, I guess I should try to open up the chakras?

>>55972

Energy work (astral body and chakras)

Emotional work

Get into the astral

Make thoughtforms for fun and magical activity

Another sigil question, anyone tried doing sigils like:

"I can astral project"

"I always lucid dream"

"My spiritual power is growing quickly"

etc…

>>55975

>Astral

As far as I can tell the main reason why people can't AP is a weak astral body, including chakras. Exit technique wouldn't do much, because, it's only a part of the process. Steps are, to quote Robert Bruce 1.Relaxed Body; 2.Clear Mind; 3.Raise energy 4.Exit technique. Raising energy and chakra work should be your primary concern. I find relaxation sets in naturally while doing energy work.

>Emotional work

Getting rid of hangups, negative thoughtforms and blockages you accumulated over time without knowing better or being able to do much about it, dealing with trauma, and simply generating an intense amount of the emotion, meditating on it. Z. M. Slavinski's books mentioned latter have a method to deal with them. So called dealing with your shadow self (Ask what makes you angry? Sad? Lonely? etc.) Find the event that made you have these negative issues and transform them into positive ones. I hope this is sort of clear what I'm going for, too tired to write more atm.

>Thoughtforms

The usual recs on thoughtforms (and there's a reason why they are usually recommended:

'Magical use of Thoughtforms' - D.A. Nowicki.

'Invisible Influences' - Z. M. Slavinski ('Transcendence' is good in general, but I don't recall it having TF info).

'The Book of Knowledge' (especially for the creation technique)

Franz Bardon's 'Initiation Into Hermetics' has useful stuff about TF's as well.

Cosimano's various books have info on thoughtforms as well, I think I liked 'Psionic Warfares' take on the topic most since info in his books duplicates to a degree.

Bardon is a suspicious fat fuck and Cosimano is cringe-worthy…

>>55949

Thanks so much

So doesn't most of this magick stuff have power because people believe it does? Like in rituals you call upon thoughtforms and such. Isn't it really the intent of the user that does the job?

>>55993

yes, also the prover proves what the thinker thinks

>>55993

An element of majics that most people who shit talk on rituals don't get is that of momentum, the more force behind something the better it works, sometimes.

How do I find the names of my past lives?

>>55577

Bump

Just to get an idea, how many people here would be interested in an evocation and invocation tutorial? I've been meaning to write one up for a while and am wondering if any of fringe is up to that level yet.

>>56016

Go for it, m8. Even if the people ain't ready for it, they will eventually. Having the information in the back of their is better than hoping to find it when they're ready.

Frankly I haven't found information on evocation or invocation that I would deem all too useful up to this point.

>>56020

Alright I'll get down to some traditional western evocation and alter creation in the morning. Should be good fun.

>>56022

what are siddhis?

>>55977

bump for interest

>>56022

Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law. Remember that your fear is the only thing that will ever make you loose them.

>>56025

http://veda.wikidot.com/siddhi

Is it worth reading anything beyond the beginners books until I achieve self consciousness? I am reading The Arcane Formulas and I am feeling some change from the exercises but I do not feel conscious yet, which I am afraid could sabotage any other readings or exercises. However, I also do not want to stop reading and studying.

Can someone share sources for auto suggestion, positive subliminal, subconscious reprogramming, self hypnosis, etc

Thanks.

>>56015

I find it absolutely fucking disgusting that Bernkastel is a little bit lower than Lambdadelta.

Also you should at least credit Hanyuu on the chart for putting it and its contents together.

what does "negs" mean?

>>55949

>/fringe/ is a board affiliated with /pol/

Really? Is that why anytime something esoteric gets posted there everyone goes "back to >>>/fringe/ >>>/x/"

The last time I saw them do some type of magic work is when they wanted to start worshipping ba'al. I told them they could just create their own egregore but the dumbfucks dont listen.

>>56107

Negs is short for negative entities. Which can be anything from ghosts to demons to aliens.

Anyone know how to summon something for some fug? Other then a succubus.

Hey fellas, I'm currently anxious as hell almost 24/7 and have been able to overcome depression by seeing things from the neophyte perspective, and I'm wondering if you have any ideas on how to rid myself on anxiety. I tend to just have certain ongoing thoughts stick in my head and make me anxious, any help is much appreciated.

So I was laying in bed earlier and some name popped in my head that was similar to yahoemin, yahomen, maybe even yahowin?

Does that mean anything? I also had a recollection of reading about some of the old Apocryphon involving some of the archangels like Samael and Sariel as well…

Can anyone direct me on a path to find more knowledge?

>>56108

There are shitposters and retards on /pol/, big whop.

Like the other anons pointed out, /fringe/ was originally intended as a community for esoteric hitlererists or whatever they like to call themselves. Those anons were heavy /pol/ crossposters so that's why we're considered buddies.

As to why they post the back to /fringe/ or whatever respective off topic board is because it's politics board, you can expect them to be wizards, or accommodate all topics of discussion, that's what /b/ is for.

I'm certainly not saying you should start making "gas the kikes" posts or become a nat soc to fit in, but I think it's important to respect the demographic that started /fringe/.

>>56116

Autosuggestion should be enough to help you. Actually a friend of mine also came up to me with anxiety issues and I'll tell you what I told him.

Before sleeping, or whatever time of day you're free, think to yourself "I am free from anxiety". Repeat it ad infinitum till you get tired or fall asleep but the trick is to get in the mindset of that already being the reality. That's a good thing, so get happy, cry from happiness if you want, what's important is that you don't repeat that like a mantra, but pour emotions into that line. Smiley's additional advice is to add something like "my autosuggestion work even if I don't believe in them" in case you doubt your powers.

It's a running gag that /fringe/ was started by /pol/tards because of the board owner. No serious practicing esotericist would actually be a natsoc retard.

can I charge multiple sigils in the span of a few days?

>>56125

Sure can. Just be careful what you wish for.

>>56122

The point, subhuman, is that you shitskins and race traitors are filth and you will be reminded to stow your egalitarianism in the overhead compartment when flying /fringe/.

>>56108

Shills and fools, mostly the ladder.

>>56128

^ this is good roleplay irony

or

this is some tier 1 mundane stuck in a mind control program.

>>55959

Unlikely anything.

>>56114

I can someone your mum anytime I need a quick shag

>>56007

another bump. I understand this isn't the dream board but I was hoping some anon here could help me out. This'll be the last bump.

>>56136

Summon*

>>56148

You're the one the posts disgusting things.

Can I get a mega link to chinese medicinal herbs? I have counterflowing chi and I need to find some AMERICAN herbs I can use to treat it. Thanks.

>>56162

https://mega.nz/#F!7lpEWKwA!SMdG49l4F-EgC-erVwgI7A

Herb folder.

>>56163

thanks. I think I'm just gonna buy Bao He Wan pills for curing the middle. I'm kinda slow. I was planning on buying a pound of each herb to make my own mix when it would be much cheaper to buy the pills then forget about it when its cured.

Can I solve counterflow with taichi? Is there a taichi general?

>>56168

/fringe/res/54577.html

Close to it. Feel free to discuss tai chi here if you wish.

I'm kinda new to this stuff, but I vividly remember that a while ago I had a dream and successfully predicted the future by analyzing it. I wasn't lucid dreaming in this one. What does this mean?

>>56179

Dreams are like that, in fact every time you dream there is symbolic messages telling you of whats going on within you therefore whats going on in you life as well. The astral realm is emotion based it's like a universal way of communication. Someone else can probably word this better though.

>>56085

>>56114

I also wanna know this.

What does the Astral Body look like when you Astral travel? Is it like a ghost copy of you? Can you change it at will to whatever you want? Without mirrors how could you know?

Has anyone ever considered astral projecting or sending out a thoughtform, going into a sleepers dreams and telling them to go to montalk.net or something? I think that would work for a lot of people, it's ironic that they deny the metaphysical but will accept that dreams can be prophetic.

>>55912

All drugs except weed alcohol shrooms caffeine and ginseng are degenerate as fuck. Id say try acid, but I doubt whatever raver faggot is selling it isnt giving you some research chemical. Cough medicine is a good replacement for acid but you will basically be insane after doing it too much… holy fuck thats the only time I was ever able to astral project though.. I almost fucking teleported home the one time. They fucking cucks who are hoarding everything on this planet put poison in cough medicine now though so good luck finding pure dxm.

If you want to explore your primal instinct and become an evil piece of shit while destroying your body and your reward system, go smoke some meth or snort coke.

Maynard James Keenan said it best - try drugs once then spend the next 10 years figuring out how to get back to that state without them.. or something like that

Dont believe that fucking nonsense you read about mdma and ketamine "curing depression". All those braindead burned out ravers (sorry , I know Im offending some of you but fuck you considering you probly got someone else addicted to that shit) are literally zombies who think they are enlightened, but I prefer trying to reach a state of ecstasy without paying some unbathed coke addict who cheats on his girlfriend 40 dollars.

>>55922

If you see a number follow it. Even if it doesnt really lead you anywhere its good to keep your mind active. Me and a bunch of other people see 27 all the time and I started following some other numbers too. It gets fucking creepy sometimes but they serve as "reminder from above" . Every time I see one of my numbers I feel at one with the universe or whatever. Theres a bunch of theories on what different numbers mean, and obviously nobody has that shit completey figured out but why not explore that shit?

>>56193

* Dates are good to look at too. Lots of times people write these posts trying to make connections with dates and names and shit.. at first glance you are like lol what an autistic faggot but if you can find some connection why not make note of it? Weve all read some conspiracy theories where you go ok theres probly a .01% chance that Obama is a Reptile but its a good mind expansion exercise to read that stuff. Its fucking retarded when people automatically rule out a hypothesis just because its unlikely… thats part of the reason human progress has happened this slow.

>>55922

>What are synchronicities?

http://montalk.net/synchronicity/synchronicity.html

http://montalk.net/matrix/112/realm-dynamics

>>56085

Frankly, m8. That's the most basic shit I can think of that's pretty self explanatory.

I think Joseph Murphy's 'The Power of Your Subconscious Mind' had some info about it. As did Bardon right at the start of IIH. Zivorad in Transcendence had relevant info. Even smiley has posted about this

But it's basically:

>Get into relaxed state

>Create emotionally charged idea of what you want

>Repeat positively worded mantra with intense intent relating to idea

>Optional: Visualize/make a note of what is now or the negative part you're trying to change, have revulsion/disgust towards it, not as intense as positive emotion

>Switch back and forth, from pos to neg, pos should be stronger and more pronounced. Do this until you're done

>>56116

Emotional transformation 101, concentrate on the positive emotion to counterbalance the negative. Just like in the greentext, switch back and forth from neg to pos and then remain in positive. I think the opposite of anxious is courageous or brave. Get that feeling going.

>>56136

Maybe you weren't supposed to take control? The dream was showing something to you? All in all, try again, see if it continues.

>>56016

Bumping for this. I want to try invocation, never tried it before.

Will the changes be permanent? Can I invoke Bain?

>>56199

Writing the thread up right now. Changes are permanent in the way that everything is permanent in a progressive way. Generally if you evocate for something then it's like adding fuel to a current fire or throwing a molotov to start a current fire. If you decide you want to opt out of your results then you can simply ignore or quit whatever it is. Like if you try to get a job you can just quit it.

You can technically call upon any egregore so yes Bain will work.

>>56200

Thanks, looking forward to your thread.

Someone on the other thread posted something about a testosterone increasing meditation. Anyone got anything on it?

>>56202

That's degenerate.

>>56205

no it's not, you are just too weak to know how to transmute, faggot

>>56161

What the fuck are you doing on /fringe/, Erika?

Lambdadelta is superior by the way

>>56228

>Erika

like if that sorry excuse for a tool would have the capacity to drag her retarded ass here. no, i'm Bern. and i really hope your love for candy is superior to my love for you, as you're gonna have them flowing right from your eye sockets until your head explodes.

if there's any plum or grape flavored ones, please keep a few for me. i'm off to see auau-sama about your autism, bye.

>>56229

If you actually want to deal with me then why is still alive?

What's there more to learn from magic besides sigils, lucid dreaming, astral projection, evocation/invocation, meditation?

>>56230

the blood sugar concentration of mice rise when they try to flee. pretty sweet deal.

>>56236

You're obviously a fake. The real Bern knows very well who is.

>>56235

That MEGA pretty much has what you need to know. There is tons of shit, but basically your mind can do anything so yeah happy birthday.

>>56237

now you know i'm not bern

BUT THAT WAS MY INTENTION ALL ALONG HAHAHA GET OUTPLAYED

>>56243

>>56236

>>56237

>>56230

>>56229

>>56228

stop roleplaying

>>56192

>dxm replacement for acid

>youll go insane

Dear god the lack of knowledge around dxm urks me. Its above lsd in terms from my experiences. You just gotta learn extraction and youre fine. Also if youre doing dxm without hitting plateau sigma youre just doing it wrong. I am the sigmashamam after all.

Dont take dxm if youre trying to replace lsd. Dxm is meant to detach from the ego to reduce barriers you place arouns yourself. Turns you into a lighthouse for spiritual activity. Mixing in other substances amplifies the spiritual effect immensely especially from a state of sigma.

And youll only go insane if you lose yourself in the process by detaching too far. Anyone who can self observe well enough doesnt need to worry.

Protip: Being in plateau sigma long enough permanently alters some brain functions and pathways. Increases intuition, creativity, curiosity, intelligence, etc. (Shortcuts do exist kids)

>>56244

this is a fantasy forum you retard, it's made by and for roleplayers like smiley

if you take anything here seriously you're in need of mental help

what's with all the shitposters as of late?

>>56250

what's whit all the people taking /fringe/ seriously lately?

>>56251

More people are waking up, I mean A LOT of people are waking up. Before I took the stuff from montalk.net seriously I was a part of a group of druggies. All empathic, they were all in the "gloom and doom" stage some people get before awakening. One fellow wizard helped me wake up and the montalk site did the rest. This is probably happening everywhere.

>>56267

You were on your way to astral project. What is happening is a frequency shift which feels like getting hit by a fast moving train.

We call it, the phase.

You should have surrendered to it completely, you would have found yourself outside your body.

>>56257

i kinda respect that you answered seriously to a trollpost.

>>56276

i figured it was something of that ilk. i just had this sense of "don't go there," just fear of the unknown and things far more powerful than myself, i suppose. this is a problem i have run into on psychedelics more than once, where it seems i'm on the verge of some significant shift into a "deeper" headspace, but i get hit with some worry about harming my physical body, going insane, etc. I'll work on mastering the fear

any literature you you could recommend that describes this phenomena? would be interested in reading to see how it matches up with what i experienced

>>56117

Samael -> Lucifer

Disregard names that pop into your head imo. Angels don't normally care for names, they just help you out of love. Demons want you to come looking for them if you are too protected to fuck with directly, so they'll slip one little thought into your head when the defenses are weakest, hoping it takes root.

What do you guys do when you get deja vus?

Is anyone here experienced with creating astral gateways and the interaction and rituals in the physical world? If you could give me the rundown on them or your own experiences that would be great.

My current idea is that you would enchant an etheric fuel source as a portal and command the energy to leak into reality via that. I'm wondering about fuel mileage and what is the best for long term. I hear fire is good on a per monthly cycle but that's not what I need so I was thinking of using chamomile tea soaked paper sigils.

Just got into reading initiation into Hermetics a month ago.

Read the theory a couple of times.

Started the practical steps.

The problem I am having is with the soul mirror.I have no idea what to write other than the traits given, and even if i come up with some traits i just cannot understand which element to put it in.To make things worse Rawn Clark's practical companion says that i shouldn't even use Bardon's given traits and just come up with them on my own!

Am I the only one who has this problem?

Or am I just being Pedantic?

Please some one help.

Give me a list of positive and negative traits of each elements.

HALP!!!

>>56307

'The Universal Master Key' by some guys compiling Bardon's notes will give you a better understanding on how you should be.

>>56308

Much obliged.

>>56148

I know its fun n' all but this sort of teenage edgy belligerence is not really useful for spreading your ideology in fact it is counteractive.

>>56311

most people on chans are underage though

>>56246

hahahahhahahahahaha detached from the ego yet you identify yourself on an anonymous board like anyone gives a fuck. I hope you die in a car accident today faggot.

>>56299

What exactly are you trying to do here?

I'd imagine you'd be able to gather the essence of the astral plane you want to make a gateway to and place it in a physical object to have act as a key of some sort, but having been on that plane once, can't you just go there by memory of the place?

Filling the tea with prana would further amplify its energetic content to remind you.

>>56315

I can't say I have an intention per say. More or less just trying to dip my feet into a new field and area. I figure I'll just open up a basic planetary energy gateway in a room and experiment with that.

>>56315

I think you mis-interpret a little. It's not a gateway as in a place for me to interact with and go to. It's a gateway for that area to come to here.

>>56317

>>56318

Righto, it may be useful for you to know that Smileberg reported that part of his room "merged", for lack of a better world, with the astral just from frequent astral travel though I don't know if he frequently traveled to the same realm or not.

You could try making a sigil in your astral realm of choice like a post sign and making an identical sigil in the physical since that seems to be your style. I bet that would provide a strong link.

Hope you'll share your experiences with us.

what's the easiest way to astral project? I don't want to force it like the guide in the book of knowledge, where you wake up at one time, wash your face, go lie in the bend for some time while repeating some shit and then supposedly you project, I want to know how to do it on command

>>56320

I just finished writing about that phenomena in my thread funny enough. After enough of this kind of work you do set up semi permanent fields of energy. People who perform the LRP invoking ritual may notice this.

>>56321

Either look up mental projection and scrying or grab some herbs which force you out of body. Other than that you have a lot of work to do.

>>56341

You can buy Sam Harris's fedora book about meditation and read a whole lot of justifications about why it is acceptable to be an atheist and engage in spiritual practices in a non-spiritual way, wasting a lot of time and money.

Or you can set a timer for 5 minutes right now, lay down, close your eyes and try to think about nothing but your breathing. Every time you think of something else, return your thoughts to your breath. You might worry about whether you a doing it "right" or not. For a beginner, yes, you are.

Congratulations, you just started meditation. Tomorrow do 10 minutes. After that, do 10-20 minutes every single day.

>Right now, I'm a nervous wreck, and my only escape is through indulgence

Try a simple banishing ritual every morning and every evening.

Even if you don't believe it, roleplaying as a neophyte wizard will allow you to pretend that you are on some path to improve yourself. Like attracts like.

The thing is that you can start this RIGHT NOW by trying to meditate for 5 minutes. Go.

>>56343

>>56344

Tried it for just 5 minutes. Distractions kept arising, and it kinda felt like trying to silence a room full of screaming retarded children, but at least I feel somewhat less distressed now. Could be worth it to try it for 10 minutes tomorrow. Thanks anons.

Care to elaborate on the banishing ritual, though? Never heard of such a thing. I'm not sure where to look for info on stuff like this, either.

In the book of knowledge by anonymous it says:

"Chakra Meditations

When starting the meditations described in this chapter, you must do them everyday for 1 or 2 weeks. It is safe to continue the process for 2 weeks. Some people suggest doing the Crown Chakra first, because the body handles the process better from the top down. When performing this meditation, you should feel tingling, pressure, or heat."

Should you do this for 2 weeks only or should you continue after some time had passed after the 2 weeks? Why is it dangerous?

>>56360

I'm gonna attempt to interpret the lyrics.

"White noise whisper along incandescent deserts" - maybe life, for the autor, is just a desert with the sand so hot that it hurts to walk. In it he astral projects - because when you do that you hear white noise.

"almost forgotten humanized fears revert" - Something the humans used to fear - death, since surviving is taken for granted today - reverts and becomes a great experience. After all, an astral projection is a near-death experience.

"The fluid oozes from my hands" - You can see in the cover he shot up some drugs up his hands. Maybe they caused the experience?

"Every single attempt to resist is rejected by acid puke." - It's common that when you take a drug that induces APing you throw up. It's your body getting rid of toxins and corrupted energy.

"Come closer, get slower, the time is nearly over. An instant which lasted for eternity" - Time moves very very slowly for you when you AP. People on DMT trips are tripping for, what, 10 minutes but to them it feels like 10 hours perhaps.

"When the totality had been curbed in a crystal" - Not really sure but when you are tripping you see a lot of geometry, some might think they are crystals?

"Lighted up fuse of chain reaction having changed its primordial direction" - Lazy way of interpreting this but those experiences tend to change your life - "primordial direction" - a lot which makes it viable to call them "lighting the fuse of a chain reaction" that does this.

"The missing scene is preserved in resin. A fossilised domino is going to fall. Tipped mountain upon the ocean floor." - Maybe on his trip he saw that a fossil will be found - probably inside of amber - that will explain a "missing scene" in science. It might be found when a vulcano errupts in the ocean OR the "tipped" is to be interpreted as "reversed" - so it could be found at a very deep spot in the sea.

"We will see behind the director's shoulders" - the director of life, perhaps, aka "god" and we'll understand what he did a bit better, obviously, since we found a missing piece of the puzzle that is creation.

"Over the angle covered by emphasized senses" - Maybe we will see everything from a different angle by using a way to improve our senses (using a microscope to improve seeing perhaps to understand the fossil better?)

"On boundless horizons dressed in acrylic" - To him, this trip is a boundless horizon and everything looks acrylic since, you know, it's a trip.

"Epileptic sequences of blackness" - Not sure what he means by that. Maybe when he closes his eyes (blackness), he sees DNA strands moving (epileptic sequences). Happened to me when I was tripping, but this guess is very bad and subjective.

"My North is pointing down" - You orientate yourself by using north, a compass always points at north. Maybe the center of his orientation is now the ground. Does he feel more grounded? Or does he simply believe the ground to hold a lot of secrets now, hence being a source of orientation?

"It's the end of the last round." - Round of what? Is it just the end of his trip or will the happening of the prophecy be the end of something much bigger?

My interpretation is A FUCKING MESS but hey I tried.

if magic is compatible with Christianity why does the bible denounce it so many times

>>56365

damn, very nice, I thought that the "my north is pointing down" part is reffering to the album cover, and the needles with the compass forming an upside down triangle, a normal upwards triangle symbolizes enlightenment, and i've read somewhere that an upside down one symbolizes the bestial nature of man or something associated with satan, can't remember clearly now, could probably also be linked to the lyrics

" Tipped mountain upon the ocean floor"

>>56367

Because the church would have had problems in the middle ages controlling people capable of magic. Now they are (maybe?) less in control but old habits never die.

Also, the Church calls their magic "miracles" so it's not magic anymore.

>>56369

so the church altered the bible?

>>56360

two pillars holding a ceiling, held by hands and injecting their content into them (wisdom and method). An eye, a wind rose with its north marking 0º and its south marking 180º and a protractor marking around 190º by a line which points to the highest point in the ceiling. An inverted triangle defined by the top of the two pillars and the center of both the protractor and the wind rose.

The rest is just for aesthetics. Interpret this as you will.

>>56370

Are you seriously asking that question ?

Do you really believe that a 2000 years old book that could control a huge number of people hasn't been altered to fit a certain agenda ?

>>56370

The interesting parts (i.e. The Gnostic Bible) were cut out, burned and forgotten until XX century. Check out Nag Hammadi Library.

>>56346

Distractions are to be expected. The important thing is to not have any reaction to them. Just let them go without judgement and return to your breathing. You might only make one breath before the next distraction, it doesn't matter, just keep calmly letting the thoughts go and returning to your breath.

The classic banishing ritual is the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (LBRP). It can be hard to perform because you have to learn a lot of Hebrew words. Download the info in >>56213 for a quick introduction.

A simpler banishing ritual can be found here:

http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/rit_banishintro.html

Though I would change the words to some kind of affirmation (eg. "I am calm, centered and relaxed. All negative thoughts and entities have been cast out").

Have a look through the catalog and you can find some threads with a lot of information about meditation. I would recommend trying the Inner Guide Meditation due to some of the wacky things it can have you doing.

>>56368

Sounds smarter than my idea I guess.

Heya /fringe/. Recommend me and excercise that i can do on my free time for entering trance please, thanks a bunch guys :)

>>56407

Take shrooms with the intent of entering a trance would be the laziest way of doing it.

But remember: Cheating is what all the cool kids do.

>>56378

well I'm not saying it wasn't though I'm just curious if it was the sole intent of control or if it stemmed from actual bias against all magic

>>56349

You can do it for as long as you want. The danger arises in developing and unlocking new potential of your body and mind. When you've never had an opened pineal it can come as a surprise. I also suggest starting from root to crown so you build up a proper foundation and don't develop crazy wizard syndrome.

>>56407

All you need to do to enter trance is drop mind. Completely let go and relax your entire body. Focus inward and be. You'll first enter an alpha state of basic relaxation, think listening to music. Then a theta state where your internal and external rituals become easier.

which one is better? IIH or universal master key?

Not sure if anyone here interprets dreams, but do giant snakes have any importance in the spiritual world or anything? I had many super vivid dreams last night, all of them focussed on me needing to find a giant snake. These dreams were more vivid than any I've had in a while and I woke up very early after dreaming them. I can't help but feel that was someone or something trying to tell me something. Any help's appreciated.

>>56438

actually similair thing happened to me a week ago, and the dream's main focus were snakes, but there were huge piles of little snakes

I've been working on New Energy Ways off and on the past few weeks, and I finally did the energy storage work since I had quite a bit of free time. I woke up with very deep aches and muscle spams the next day, alongside a headache centered in my forehead.

I'm assuming I should spend a few days resting, but did I possibly go too hard into it? I'm most likely going to just start again with the basics after everything subsides, but I'm unsure about how deeply I could have fucked up.

Why does my magic fail?

How important are the visualization exercises in Initiation into hermetics?

I can easily visualize places,scenes,objects,sounds etc.. but do you really need to visualize cold,warmth,gravity,lightness,hunger,thirst,tiredness? this is getting ridiculous

>>56445

Why are you complaining? If you can visualize all of those things, you can apply their properties to a thought form.

>>56445

You need to get into the scene bro, your a creator man. That detail is important.

>>56456

*you're

You think I can gain immortality by auto-suggesting my body to stop aging? Or just start believing and intending that I am immortal?

How to become le epic freemason elerminati magical being?

How do you deal with saliva in meditation, it always bothers me in the first part of relaxation, it accumulates in my mind, making me have to contract some muscles and it distracts me from my goal. At a certain point it doesn't anymore, but that is shortly before I am mentally tired and have to stop taming my thoughts.

So how do you deal with saliva ?

>>56466

Eat more pussy

Anyone got any good sources on NLP and defending against it. You know, sources that aren't using NLP themselves while teaching you about NLP.

>>56458

what's NLP?

>>56469

Neural linguistic programming

>>56440

Your energy blockages are appearing in the body. As for the headache that's third eye activity.

>>56441

Are you using sharp intention and strong emotion?

>>56438

>>56439

I've typed up more on the dreams I had, if anyone can help interperet them for me I would appreciate it.

I had a series of dreams about a snake I had to find. A giant snake. They were extremely vivid and I seem to remember every little detail. The snake was orginally about 1 foot in diameter, 100 feet long, and venemous. I had to enter it's lair and kill it, but before I could I had to build up an immunity to the venom. I realized that it would dump gallons of venom into my system and trying to become immune was a fruitless idea, I gave up trying to attack its lair. The next dream the snake was much larger, several feet in diameter. I don't remember if it was still venemous or not, but there was no lair. The snake seemed much more ellusive and almost like it was on the run from me. By the third dream the snake was exactly 8 feet in diameter. I remember looking for it and walking into a PetCo store and they had a tunnel for the snake to get away through in the side of the inside of the store. I remember asking why they had the tunnel in an accusing way, I felt betrayed by them for letting the snake escape from me. I then woke up about 3-4 hours earlier than I usually do. I'm not sure if this means anything or what but it was super vivid, like more vivid than any dream I've had in a while. Also I originally refered to the snake as the hydra, but then in the dream I convinced myself basallisk was a more correct term. Now that I'm awake I know it's neither, it was a giant snake.

>>56488

First I think the general idea of the dream is pretty obvious, you should have probably just went to dreammoods or something instead of posting this.

The fact that it's reoccurring means that your higher or subconscious mind is trying to get your attention on something you need to learn or address in yourself or your life. Think about what serpents usually represent try to apply that. Think about actions, so you are searching for it right? Then apply that to it. Most important about any meaning in dreams is the way you feel during these moments, take note of more then what you see but also how it makes you feel. This is important. Perhaps there are some symbols or reoccurring ideas or phrases as well as settings. Like first there was a layer, this is obviously somewhere where this serpent takes refuge, it's always in a specific dwelling. Just journal this shit and break it down bro.

>>56492

Also apply your frustration of not being able to find it. Which seems to be related with the reason you came here in the first place.

>>56492

lair*

I know technically anything that gives sex in exchange for loosh is considered a succubus so, does anyone know any tech for specifically summoning a non-demonic succubus. I already know how to summon a demonic one. Also any info on making contracts with these beings? Much appreciated.

>inb4 your mom joke

>>56462

bump

>>56504

Read book of knowledge by anonymous,initiation into hermetics,universal master key and practice the stuff here

preferably read a lot of other related shit too

What am I missing out if I don't practice visualization?

>>56492

>>56493

>>56501

I didn't know something like dreammoods existed. Thank you for showing me this. I read the portion about snakes and the dreams entirely make sense now. Thank you

>>56519

When it comes to magick yeah probably.

Damn just had a dream of people watching my home and trying to lurk in. Some of my loved ones got hurt, the fuck am I supposed to do now.

Can computers be "programmed" by mind just as they can be programmed through languages? Has anybody ever done anything interesting with mind or is it just so inefficient that learning a language would be easier?

>>56360

What band/album?

Good reading/listening/watching on Freemansonry anyone?

Decent Youtube channels?

Thoughts on this guy?

>>56549

spirit science is aight. Tom Montalks YouTube channel is great though

Who would win in a fight, Allah, or the Monad?

>>56549

http://8ch.net/fringe/res/50082.html

Any youtube channels that you currently find useful are the ones YOU need at this current moment. The way this works is that you need to slowly build up and "pull" back information that you already knew from the subconscious. You'll come back to old resources with a new perspective and they will be able to teach you more since each piece of information is just a projection of your own mind allowing the mind to experience a new and different thought. If you get what I'm saying.

Any notice that papa franku and h3productions are actually secretly wizards? I mean pay close attention to their videos. If that doesn't work watch them high. You'll notice some crazy messages behind them.

>>56569

Yeah and Obama actually mentioned "Spark of the divine" in one of his speeches, i literally dont know what is true anymore

>>56570

It's crazy how many people you realize are actually using NLP. I noticed some youtube videos are trying to program an anti illusion anti ego message in your subconscious. lol maybe I'm just fucking going crazy.

>>56572

Yeah but the thing about stuff like Gnosticism and other occult things was I thought it was a real secret truth and the answer to why this universe is hostile, but even those who are higher up seem to be in support of it, so I'm confused.

>>56573

Well I don't know, you gotta see motives, Like technically they don't want people to stay asleep forever but they intend for the enslavement of humanity before they wake up. It's also possible the divine agenda could be working out to humanities favor and we might actually end this prison planet shit once and for all.

>>56572

Do you guys have any good guides on how to spot NLP? I don't view enough consumer media and news to know what it is or might look like.

Seriously watch h3h3productions reaction videos and tell me if I'm crazy. He's totally using NLP, it's a strange twist but it seems effective.

>>56576

Well actually I'm still looking for some good NLP sources myself since most of them are actually just using NLP on you while teaching you NLP but there is this one video series from this guy I watched that was pretty good. Watch out though.

http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/connection-to-intuition-truth-and-source-love-a-recording-by-jonathan-adampants/

>>56579

Link on the site is dead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3nPwugEFV8

My bad here it is.

>>56581

Thanks for that.

>>56579

What about h3h3 is NLP? I haven't noticed anything.

>>56569

>>56570

>>56572

>>56573

>>56574

>>56576

>>56579

>>56581

>>56582

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ElpE-THkRE Seriously just, god damn the NLP is all over the video. He's even trying to point it out. If I'm going insane man, I gotta know lol.

>>56583

Pay attention to all the gestures, even in the fucking news clip in the video says 'LEAN FORWARD' in the corner. Watch a few of his videos and look at all the repeating actions and themes. Especially when he does the choking noise every time some bullshit in the video happens.

>>56585

Who knows maybe I'm just high as fuck? Gonna call it a night then

>>56540

It's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTZJiE7OUDQ

Really good album, might just be album of the year for me, got very interested in the symbolism behind it, the cover itself is very symbolic

>>56584

>h3h3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl6sPqdeaTM

So much paranoya over NLP….

Choose what you watch, listen and read carefully, and don't be dumb neough to fall for this shit. That's all you need to know.

Should you stop practicing the previous step's visualization exercises after you succeed in doing them for 5 minutes in IIH? If you should practice every single one, then at step 4 you already have about 20 exercises piled up, that you should all do for 5 minutes

>>56609

Most of the exercises in IHH can definetly be skipped I believe, if it does not relate to what you want to achieve

Any books on long lasting sigils, talismans or amulets? I'm on a magical break through and I really need information.

>>56628

Don't know, but what do you mean by magical break through?

>>56628

https://mega.nz/#!b1RGHCQB!D_b5nd3_O56WuLJzDHiGi7EkbHsjYPSrRIzgvZGi0tI

>>56629

As in I've finally figured out a way to get desired results repeatedly. And if it works magic or evocation or whatever you believe in will be much easier to do.

>>56631

Using sigilis? That's pretty basic stuff

>>56632

I fucking know. I'm checking it out but the metaphor that sigels and talismans are training wheels hold up.

Anyone here got any info on how I can stop eating and drinking and live on life energy/prana instead? Also some mana info?

>>56638

Look for the living on light thread here.

I simply did the 21 day process by Jasmuheen and achieved living off Prana. It's not for everyone though…

>>56652

Well I would like to rid myself all desire for cravings and physicality. Otherwise It would be harder to transcend it.

You guys think I could change my hair to an unnatural color naturally using autosuggestion/reprogramming? What's the chance I could stop my aging using this method too? Thanks

>>56468

learn the five laws of hypnosis and the two types of suggestibility and message unit theory of hypnosis. literally everything the body intakes is a message unit which carries along suggestions, every person you meet and every concept you come across is loaded with suggestions

>>56706

Do you have any recommended books/webpage/material on these?

Also would you say that everyone when communicating is using these kinds of suggestions? I would often find myself switching mind states and being able to clearly see subliminal language from everyone. Is that just intuitive abilities?

I don't like my self anymore, i used to be really cool, but then i changed and became what i hated the most.

Everything feels meaningless, everything feels shit, i don't have the drive to do anything.

What do i do to go back to my natural state /fringe/?

Also, what does /fringe/ think about Nietzsche? Does nothing have objective meaning and we must give subjective meaning to it?

>>56587

He's greasy and ugly and a shit. How do you watch this guy?

It seems the Temple of Solomon library is down, or at least the link in the sticky ( https://mega.co.nz/#F!r8clUJgA!w9owH7ZHBveClXwTH0vM9w ).

Anyone have a replacement up already?

>>56759

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

>>56592

Death metal is a pretty hard genre for me to enjoy, but I gave it a listen anyway.

It was better than I expected.

If the lyrics were more pronounced I probably would've enjoyed it much more. Especially the first half, since a majority of the sonically interesting things seemed to be packed in the last four songs, leaving the first four to be a bit bland.

Also, I get that it's supposed to be chaotic, but some parts, especially in La Maison Diev, were slogs through throbbing percussion with repeated phrases in the other instruments. Honestly, I think a lot of this album suffered from that issue.

To end on a good note, this album kind of had a math rock feel to it. There's a good amount of technique in both guitars and percussion, but a little more direction would've helped.

reposting from other thread.

Where in initiation into hermetics does it say anything about shapeshifting? I've read through most of it, I still can't find anything on the matter

I've seen people claiming that it has stuff about shapeshifting, making yourself bigger/smaller etc…

>>56795

I bet they meant the general wish granting through elementals that we commonly call thoughtforms now or autosuggestion.

>>56738

Realize that it's not the true you that's being depressed but your persona which became influenced by external factors and that all it takes is connecting to your higher self to reprogram your mental state.

Nietzsche is alright. He's right on the money in regards to the lack of true spirituality in the masses by saying "God is dead" but I don't agree that everything we do is meaningless. As wizards we follow our higher self that other people might call internal drive or instincts. That is life's meaning for us, incarnating on this Earth to grow and learn our lessons in order to keep moving in our spiral path. STS may argue that they're in it for material gain but even that is a lesson for them to learn and grow from.

why do you guys say magick instead of magic?

>>56798

>I bet they meant the general wish granting through elementals that we commonly call thoughtforms now or autosuggestion.

I don't think so tbh, they mentioned there was a specific technique for that only

What is reality distortion and how do I do it? It's mentioned in the book of knowledge but there's no instructions on how to accomplish such an act

>>56798

are thoughtforms and autosuggestion the same thing?

Anyone here had any success with the "Channeling the Higher-Self" technique from the book of knowledge? It's a pretty complicated technique, and it probably goes by some other names in other books so I'll post it here, I'm interested in hearing your opinions on this one.

"Everyone has a Higher-Self. This Self is You as real You really are. This is Your Divine Self, or Godself. This Higher Being, which is Us, guides you in your life. However, because of fear, guilt, etc, its influence can sometimes be distorted, so that any message of divine love is lost. Conscious mental filters, which have been established because of the Dark Matrix, keep you from understanding how to connect with your Godself. Your Spirit is more vast and powerful than you can imagine. Here is a technique which will allow you to channel your Higher-Self. Using this, you can ask for guidance in many, many things. For instance, after entering deep meditation, you can ask your Godself to teach you how to more effectively perform Telekinesis. If done properly, you WILL receive an answer. You can also pray to your Higher-Self for blessings, though you should grow from depending upon your Higher-Self to becoming it.

Go somewhere quiet and sit comfortably. First, do the Quiet-Mind Meditation. You might want to have a pen and paper in hand to take notes. Next, take three deep breaths. Imagine your mind (conscious) sinking into the warm, inviting Earth. Continue downward until you find a mineral that appeases you. See the mineral glow and grow brighter. Pick whatever color you prefer. Imagine the light now changing into a beam. "Feel" it and see it. Watch it as it enters into your bottom right foot. Become aware of your foot. Continue to draw the light up the right side of your body. Become aware of the right side of your body, which lights up the whole of it. Next, move the light beam to your left shoulder. Move it down the left side of your body, while keeping awareness of the areas it touches. Move the light into your left foot and finally send it back to the Earth. Imagine that the light is in continuous motion.

After this, see a third energy beam rise from the Earth. You can change its color if you wish. Watch as it enters your body at the base of the spine. Make sure you actually "feel" this happening. Imagine that your Root chakra is a circle of light, like a wheel, which fills it with energy and glows. It starts to spin. Soon, all negativity, fear and pain clears away. The chakra is spinning in wonderful alignment with spine, which acts like an axle. Imagine and feel your Root Chakra open up. Continue to move the beam up each chakra, repeating the basic steps. This is basically the same thing as the awakening the chakra meditation, but in reverse. REMEMBER: It is best to start with the Crown chakra if you are a beginner, otherwise these energies might overload your physical body. Only attempt to start at the Root if you feel you can handle it.

After reaching the Crown Chakra, shoot the beam of light out of your head. Make sure you feel this actually leaving. You might hear sounds.

Now, you are ready to meet your Higher-Self. See yourself rising up with beam that is shooting from your Crown Chakra. Enter into a sacred doorway, which is designed with your personal symbols. It is your favorite color, and material, and is absolutely beautiful. Visualize this until it is very, very vivid. This is your Temple. Only you have the key. It can look like anything you desire (a forest, a sitting room, etc). But whatever it looks like, imagine a fountain surrounded by a pool of clear water. At first, you see yourself clearly in the reflection. But the water soon gets wavy and out from this pool, you see a powerful being rise. Remember to keep it very vivid. Greet this being, because it is your Higher-Self."

1/2

>>56817

2/2

"When you are ready, feel yourself merge with your Higher-Self. You as your Higher-Self now leave the Temple and follow it back to your physical form. You enter with your Higher-Self through the Crown chakra. Breathe in deeply. Do you feel different? In your own time, open your eyes. Now, ask yourself the questions that you desire to receive. Write down your impressions. If you hear words (often the case) write them down as well.

After the questions feel complete, close your eyes once again, and take your Higher-Self with you back to your Sanctuary. Let your Higher-Self return to the magical fountain pool, knowing that it is there for you whenever you need it. Now go retrieve your mind, accepting it as a part of yourself. You may stay in your Sanctuary as long as you like, or return to it whenever you want, for it is your space, a place where you are truly free. When you are ready, return to your body through the crown chakra. Your awareness returns to the room you are in and you feel refreshed and balanced.

When you are finished, return to the Temple and see your Higher-Self return to the pool and disappear. You are finished.

To begin honing your skills, ask yourself questions which you could verify later, such as “What will the weather be like tomorrow,” etc, etc. Write down your impressions and see if they are correct. Over time, you will become amazingly accurate."

What would you recommend for learning how to Tarot? I've got cards and want to learn about their symbolism and possible interpretations. Some practical pointers would be great also.

>>56831

I made a cheat sheet with one or two basic meanings for each card and its reverse. The sheet also has stuff about elements and starsigns.

I would go through the whole pack. If I could quickly identify one of the meanings, the card went in one pile, if I couldn't, I would check the sheet and put the card in another pile. Then I would repeat the process with the "couldn't remember" pile.

I also do a lot of sample readings with different test questions to try to interpret combinations. I have a tarot app on my phone so I can do this when I don't have my cards.

Now that I have a framework of simple meanings for each card, I am trying to expand my knowledge of each card by referring to a handbook when I do test readings.

I also use a memory-assistant servitor to help with recall of card meanings.

My friend's a NEET and his livelihood is in danger. I've only been reading so far and don't have any practice. What practice would have the biggest chance of working for a complete beginner on such a matter? I've been getting him into occult too so anything different each of us should do?

I've been thinking of basic reality manifestation so far but I don't know how well that works without prior sharpening of the relevant mental faculties.

>>56833

I'm a NEET too, definitely take him through the basics. Allow him to get control of his life with the reality creation books and reprogramming as well. He should do daily meditation as well.

>>56800

aleister crowley coined the term to differentiate between esoteric magic and exoteric/stage magic

>>56834

I've gotten him to meditate and explained basic theory on such matters so far but I'm talking of an immediate threat to his livelihood that needs intervention here.

>>56834

I've gotten him to meditate and explained basic theory on such matters but I'm talking of a very immediate threat to his livelihood that needs intervention.

>>56836

>>56838

Thanks for the doublepost and wrong password, 8chan.

>>56832

That's where I started at, but I really want to go seriously in depth, something like vid related.

>>56836

Is it a health problem? Did he pick up an attachment or something?

Is there any simple, practical magic that I can see results from very quickly? I don't want to have to do a bunch of bullshit for something that might not even have a pay off.

>>56859

>Make a sigil.

>>56817

same guy updating, I tried this and succesfully predicted the weather, will try again today and try to predict some other stuff

>>56860

What resource do you recommend?

>>56865

There should be mountains of pictures, books and videos on it. Other than that I can write up a tutorial in my magic thread later on if you'd like.

>>56804

Then maybe the part where he talks about transferring your mind into an animal? I think that's where he mentioned that wizards of the past would be confused with shapeshifters by taking over an animal.

Can't think of any other instances.

>>56810

No thoughforms are mental entities you create/interact with and autosuggestion is hacking your subconsciousness or sending your wish to the universe so that reality bends according to your unshakable faith, whatever explanation you like more, if not both.

>>56809

any magical act that can only be explained as a very convenient coincidence is essentially a reality distortion or manipulation caused by you.

>>56817

>>56818

I've been doing that, I usually just drop in my sanctuary to ask on whether I should attempt a project or not and how to go about it.

I find it's a generally relaxing experience but it seems like I'm not on the level of telekinesis yet which is a bummer.

>>56865

It's the most common form of magic m8. Mountains of articles are out there online, just a jewgle search away. Pretty much all of them will come down to.

>formulate wish in a sentence in present tense

>remove vowels and repeating letters

>using remaining letters jumble them up into a sigil and add an artistic touch to it by redrawing it multiple times so that it stops reminding you of your wish

>fire it off with your method of choice, burning it if your wish is somehow tied to the fire element, putting it in a bowl of water if it's water based, tear it into pieces and let the wind take it if air and bury it if earth.

Pro tip, don't feel constrained by the firing off methods, do what feels right for you, but you should spend the longest amount of time on the first step of formulation, making sure it is accurate and won't backfire in any way.

Hello /fringe/.

I'm a complete newfig at this kind of shit, but one of my coworkers (IT-company) talked a bit about cybershamanism and it piqued my interest, so I was wondering if you'd help a a mundane on his way to becoming a neophyte with resources to read or pointers or what have you. Thanks in advance.

>>56869

read the book of knowledge and the practice everything there, literally all you could ever need

>>56871

Yeah, other books are nowhere near that useful.

>>56798

How do i start alligning with my higher self? Keep in mind Nietzsche wasn't saying that everything we do is meaningless, he just said that sooner or later, by using logical thinking one will come to the conclusion that life lacks inherent or intrinsic meaning, value, or purpose.

He said that we should become what he called the Ubermensch, the individual that when sees that there is no real meaning to the universe, makes his own meaning and follows it. So meaning is only subjective.

>>56879

At least what I hear from channeling scripts that I have read. It is the method that is hardest for dark forces to corrupt. However can't say if it's safe or not, be aware of what you are actually doing when you communicate to beyond.

>>56874

Read the books by Neville Goddard and Joseph Benner. You should also consider a breatherian diet.

>>56886

http://montalk.net/metaphys/117/stages-of-conscious-awakening

This looks like it can help too. Can it?

>>56887

Yeah maybe it can, find out yourself. You're gonna have to become independent on this sort of thing. If you really want to align with you higher self you should find self realization so you can remember who you really are and why you incarnated in the first place.

>>56871

The Practice of Everything There?

What does fringe think of the cynic philosophy? Is it a healthy path for one looking to obtain enlightenment? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynicism_(philosophy)

>>56957

Oh my reading comprehension. I thought you were saying the title of a book I hadn't heard of. My bad.

>>56959

yeah I meant "then"

So do tulpas/throughtforms/elementals really have an effect on reality? Out of all the stuff i've read this is the only thing i'm still doubtful about, it also seems like the easiest way to delude yourself, but yeah I know that buddhist monks would create these themselves, greenpill me on this

>>56976

Demons and some aliens are thoughtforms, so I would say yes they have a big impact on our reality.

what's the 4th density?

Was Tyler Durden a tulpa?

>>56995

Yes and he was part of the shadow-self along with… what was the name of the creepy woman? Mary? I forgot. But she represents his supressed inner femininity.

Then again, are all concious hallucinations representing your subconcious tulpas? What's the exact definition, what makes a hallucination a tulpa?

>>56977

This is something that's always confused me. Aliens exist in the physical plane (I assume that's what the word alien implies) but they also operate in planes like mental and astral. Do they work like us, where they live out general lives in the physical and use the higher planes for knowledge and understanding? Or do they live out in both physical and mental forms, abducting people purely in thought and not physically?

It is very confusing.

>>57012

First of all, the definition of alien is "not from earth". That means an extremely high amount of entities you encounter through astral travel, channeling or whatever are aliens. The obviously is not just one kind and it is extremely likely that some are exclusively physical, some exclusively astral and some both.

Needless to say there are many different kinds of aliens which all have to be percieved seperately if you don't want shit to be extemely confusing.

>>56986

quasi-physical state, i.e. can go in and out of physicality at will, most ETs are lower level 4th density beings

http://montalk.net/metaphys/267/sto-sts-and-densities

>>57030

most ETs that interact with humans on a physical level, that is

Sources on shapeshifting?

>>57040

Morphosephram

Not really /fringe/, but you guys should have a good idea on it.

Should I save my journals permanently or not worry about it as long as I can get to recent writings? I have a large collection of dream journal entries but I barely ever read through it and they do not have nearly enough meaning as they did at the time. Now that I am starting more journals on experiences, I don't want to have an overabundance of data that is useless.

How does /fringe/ manage their journals?

What do I do when I live in a small place with loud people that I hate? The TV is blaring at all hours of the day. My only refuge is going out in nature and now it's getting too cold to stay out. I feel paralyzed. I've desperately been wanting to move out for a long time, years, but I have no money and I can't do anything about it because I can't do any practices in such a horrible space. I'm reaching my limits. I've turned to self-harm to quell my anger. I need to go get out of here. Do you have any advice for me? THanks.

>>57050

Being /edgy/ makes you a subhuman.

>>57050

lol wow the coincidence. I spent a decent part of my life in what I thought was the same situation. The first thing you should do is transcend that hate there, it's fake and is a cancer on your true self and abilities. Second, learning to love people and or not giving a fuck about trivial shit would also help your life entirely. There's books in the MEGA you can read on this as well as on montalk.net resources page. If you refuse to do that then your only choice left is black magic. Good luck brother.

>>57050

Use lesser magic! Just the other day I did an evocation to stop music at a party that was happening right next door. Way too late into the night and I thought I was going to burst a vein. A few seconds after the evocation it went completely silent. So beautiful.

Other than that you're going to need to learn how to overpower their rubbish with your own internal will and love which are located at the solar plexus and heart centre. Cultivate and allow these to flow and strengthen.

What exactly is DMT and how does it relate to Magic? I'm seeing a couple of threads about it.

>>57075

DMT the spirit molecule.. It's a sick ass drug it pumps in your brain every night you sleep. Takes you to higher realms and shit. It's in your pineal gland. I never used it with magic though. But I guess you can use it to astral travel.

There's a streetlight that shines in my window all night as I'm trying to sleep. How do I break it with magick? I remember a few wizards talking about streetlights going out when they get near them.

>>57082

First you want to get your pixie dust, then your magic gloves, then make sure you dress up in a nice suit.

Go outside to the streetlight. Look at the street light and take note of it's every detail.

Then you are going to want to drink some water before this next part. Sniff the pixie dust and piss all over the streetlight, climb up the street light put on your gloves and smash it with your fucking bare hands straight through the bulb. Make sure not to get any glass in your eye goggles are optional. Then piss inside the socket. Now you have completed the magic.

I have no idea what happened last night

I went to meditate before sleep as usual, but just at the start of my meditation, even though my eyes were closed, I could see for a second a very very bright flash, felt electricity go into my skull and heard a loud crack, what the fuck happened?

>>57095

Common pineal activity. Just before we go to sleep the kundalini energy from your coccyx rises to the pineal and creates the chemicals required to sleep. The light is seeing with your first eye open. As for the crack it could be one of two things. Either the seams at the top of your skull could be opening showing more brain activity or it could also just be another pineal phenomena. A lot of people hear crackling or popping when they start working on this area (could be from the calcification breaking down I wonder).

>>57096

Thanks for the info, also felt loads of pressure in my head at that moment

>>57098

Yeah that's definitely it then. As for the rest of the people here who're feeling pressure and strange sensations around the forehead, inside and back of the head. This is just your third eye chakras and glands activating. These centers of the body have been dormant for so long in people because they've never been shown or taught how to active and use them. Thus once someone starts their journey into the occult and starts using them again they will re-open.

What's special about the horoscope?

Also, any special meaning to birthdays?

>>57041

Is it in any of the archives we have here?

>>57121

there is a thread on 4chon

>>57140

thanks a lot

>>57078

So it's basically the stuff that makes you dream?

>>57151

Well if you take some while awake, you go somewhere better then dream land.

What are some cures to neurosis symptoms? Obviously psychology is incomplete because modern science and psychology do not acknowledge the metaphysical aspects of body and mind. Is this something I can deal with through mediation? Maybe just mental reprogramming?

Any way to get photographic memory?

>>57184

>>57191

this, interested too

>>57198

No

>>57191

I can't remember if the thread is still here but Smileberg once posted on how he photographically remembered the books he read.

It basically came down to the following

>read paragraph

>visualize the paragraph in perfect detail

>read it from "memory" like that

As you gain proficiency in that method you have to extend it further to entire pages.

>>57204

kek, I'd be surprised, smiley is an autist who can't read and complains every two weeks on /4chon/ how he can't memorize/focus on his reading….

Read the book "photoreading"

Apply the same technique to anything you'd want to memorize.

IIRC, there is also a less detailed version of the method in the book "The way of the SEAL".

Any good books on Remote Viewing/Tele-Visualization?

Is this post proof that magic exists?

Best,easiest,fastest guide to astral project?

On a scale of 0 to 10 how doubtful would /fringe/ be if I did a series of videos on magick where every single video is uploaded from a different location in the world and every video has a different person in it narrating yet clearly continuing on from where the last one left off and each video is uploaded on the same account (actually might be impossible because Google has this detection shit to stop people from taking over your account from other locations and it might freak out so I might need to make a new account for each video).

Would it not be worth the effort due to fags just be like "he's paying off people around the world to narrate occult videos for him!" even though the reality of the situation would be, that I am in fact, possessing them temporarily?

Thinking it over I should probably focus on direct psychokinetic manipulation of video files in order to reproduce in 4k video format scenes from the astral for the first time to be viewed by people here in third density. Doubters will just think I suddenly became one of the world's very best CGI dudes ever or whatever but it wouldn't matter because there'd be so many cool things I could show from the astral and upload to youtube that my channel would become well funded I bet… then again if I actually just want money remote viewing stocks or the password's of people bank accounts and using online banking to withdraw some of their money is the easiest route it seems.

>>57263

Don't do it for the people who doubt. At the end of the day every piece of evidence can look unrealistic to the mind of someone who does not wish to believe it. Even if you levitate or incinerate right in front of them they will still find a way to worm their way out of it. As for the rest of fringe, I'm sure they'll find it certainly entertaining and inspiring.

As for possession I need to ask. I found myself one night trying to possess someone while astrally projecting but I could not seem to "enter" or "merge" with them. Does it require a high level of ability or are there some other factors required to get it right? I remember the man becoming uncomfortable as if he knew something was wrong and then he closed up.

>>57220

>Best,easiest,fastest guide to astral project?

Lift out your imaginal body (aka just sit up mentally) quickest + easiest but not efficient

Assume an asana position and just lift up your imaginal arm from your physical arm and accept the imaginal arm as real and then left up more of your imaginal body out of your physical body basically just sitting up and getting up. There is a sort of "gravity" you have to overcome here by bruteforce of the will but it is incredibly simple. Usually I just lay down, sometimes with arms crossed like a pharaoh, and then start lashing around with my astral arms gradually transferring the nerve-force (prana/vril/etc.) to the imaginal arms and feeling them become stronger until I manage the trash my way out of my body by twisting around and lashing about with my imaginal arms so much.

Please note that before you can astral project you have to actually know what the astral planes are so that you can correctly conceptualize them and intend to access that plane. Please be aware as well that the astral planes are in fact PLANES; they OVERLAP. It's not a place but a condition, a state of being. Also be aware there are many different planes to tune into (kind of like a radio).

If you want to remote view / see the physical world via the astral you can do that too in many different ways which I can describe but I'm just going to tell you plainly right now how to astral project not how to remote view.

You should read The Astral World by Swami Panchadasi. It's a short book in the /fringe/ library and won't take you long to read but is critical before attempting this.

Gravity Ball best + efficient but takes awhile to master

Use the method similar to what the aliens use in the book Chasing Phantoms of basically creating a gravity ball thoughtform that sucks your astral body out or your physical body. Just meditate and power up with loosh a ball shaped thoughtform that remains persistent in your room and which you can use whenever you want, at any time, to suck you out. It takes awhile to create this ball but once it's made and stabilized it's "easy as a slight impulse of the will" to command your ball thing to suck you out.

Traditional Shamanic Method great if you have a tulpa or any other companion entity at your disposal

Shamans have forever just used their spirit animals to take them to the spirit world / dream world. Just call upon your spirit animal to take you and it will. You can do the same with any other astral entity like a tulpa or whatever, just have them give you help getting you out of your body. One shaman I know has a bear take him to the spirit world aka astral planes.

Will Method

If you are very well developed, have a strong astral body, lots of energy, lots of will, refined astral senses, etc. you can just part your astral body from your physical body any time you like by a simple effort of the will.

Go to Sleep Method

Just go to sleep nigga. Dreams are part of the astral planes. Astral projection is natural and easy and something you do all the time already! Oh wait – but you think your dreams are subjective? They are not, another initiate/shaman/entity/whatever can enter your dreams, dream your dreams, etc. so it's an experience that can be shared with others. There is nothing in the All which is not infinitely interconnected with everything else. If you are looking for a more objective experience of the astral planes then your problem isn't with astral projection (which is easy) it's with navigating and using the astral productively for ESP and getting correct and accurate information that actually relates to this world. Perhaps you'd be more interested in psychomancy or in creating a shared realm in the astral in which you can hang out with friends?

http://montalk.net/about/212/glossary#objective

If you don't dream when sleeping well start practicing Initiation Into Hermetics and unlock all your imaginal/astral senses. That is a simple matter of imagining sights, imagining sounds, imagining feeling, imagining smells, imagining tastes, and later on unlocking the other two physical senses and then their corresponding mental/astral versions.

Speaking of the other two senses; does anyone know of any literature at all that exists about them, if they have names, and if they can be described at all to people who don't have those senses?

>>57265

>As for possession I need to ask. I found myself one night trying to possess someone while astrally projecting but I could not seem to "enter" or "merge" with them. Does it require a high level of ability or are there some other factors required to get it right? I remember the man becoming uncomfortable as if he knew something was wrong and then he closed up.

My advice is find someone with a grey/"flat" aura that doesn't show much strong colours in it. Those ones are the "ready made subjects" hypnotherapists love to use. If you find one, they will give very little resistance as they have very little will of their own, and you can take them over and use them easily.

Likewise, those with the most intense auras, are the hardest to bend to your will. You probably will have no luck with them but the key here is to either be even stronger willed than them or to examine their desires (the auric colours will tell you what they are) and use their own desires against them to gain control. If you can convince them to relax and submit unconditionally to you, letting you do whatever you want with them, it will be easier.

Also, sicker, drugged, nearly dead, etc. people who have a weak connection between their astral body and physical body are easier to possess too (provided there aren't OTHER entities already possessing them that you now have to fight with to get in!) and submissive people are easy to control especially if you use a special technique to discover a form that is very pleasing to them, assume it, and use that form to gain their confidence (many people are idiots that identify with form and don't know the special techniques in IIH to know the true form of things and think if something appears a certain way, that is what it is). Of course if you accidentally end up assuming a form of a friend or relative or something of there's then you'll have to either hope they don't notice you're "acting out of character" or you'll have to do some more astral magicks to become a better impostor.

Note: highly realized, spiritually advanced people are pretty much impossible to trick like this and can banish your ass with great ease after seeing through your deceptions.

You can also just keep contacting someone over and over and gain their permission little by little and establish a trust-based relationship in them in which they give over control voluntarily with no deception involved.

Now you might be wondering… how do I see the auras? Well, read this thread ( https://archive.is/L16CF ) and do the rituals in it and read the books recommended in the thread, you will be able to objectively see the auras that surround all bodies. Note the thread is still live here: >>>/4chon/94834

Overview of the variables:

>the desires of the target effect how easy it is to gain possession (to whatever degree) of their body

>the strength of the will of the target can either assist the possession process greatly or hinder it greatly, a weak will neither presents much of an obstacle but also won't assist much either

>the resonance between you and the target secures and strengthens the connection, resonance is effected by desire/emotion

>very strong desire to possess the target on your part will make the process easier, and very weak desire on their part to resist makes it easier, but even better is when they themselves actively desire to be possessed / be a medium!

Note: you may wish to practice mediumship yourself before you try to practice possessing people. Possession is the flip-side of the coin of mediumship. Whenever there is someone wanting to be a medium, there is someone else on the other end (human or non-human) that has to take part in the process and work through them!

>>57268

Second note: Highly realized, spiritually advanced persons will also respond very strongly to your intentions. If they know you have good intentions and don't mean any harm, they will probably respect that, and be willing to participate in what you want to accomplish by serving as a medium for you for a little while. If on the other hand you plan on using their body for something they'd find objectionable, maybe masturbation, sex, killing spree, vandalism, and causing general chaos… unless that's the sort of stuff they feel comfortable with doing and would love to let you do that using their bodies they will resist and reject your efforts to possess them.

I may as well add that the key to synchronistically resonating with and coming into contact with the very best and most helpful entities in this world and in the astral is to cultivate as much virtue as possible, keeping your mind pure and filled with good intentions. If you are a very noble person then you can expect to meet those that are like you. Like begets like. The pure intentions and high virtues will metaphysically protect you from encounters with energetically wasteful and tiresome struggles with deceptive and hostile beings. You can then gain entry to some of the most blissful and productive realms in the astral and have some very beautiful experiences there… just don't fuck up and get yourself banished by them (has happened to me and many others too). I once got into one of these heavenly realms while spiritually immature and knocked some woman off of a bike there because back then I had a GTA kind of mindset when it came to the astral and the woman just got up and banished me with little effort and I was butthurt because I found myself back in this world again having just had my astral travel cut short. Some places it's OK to do shit like that … others not really. It's a good idea to know where you are and what is acceptable and in line with the character or purpose of the particular realm you are residing within at the moment. You wouldn't normally go to an astral library to chimp out and beat everyone up there and knock over the books if the place was intended as a place for learning but then again another astral library you might go into might just be part of a realm that people go to to have fun fighting and stuff so who knows.

>>57268

>>57271

This is dangerous to be teaching people.

>>57268

>>57271

I very much appreciate all of the information. Time to get to working through it I believe.

>>57276

All knowledge is dangerous at some levels. But we live in a world that is both dual but singular in polarity. Everything can be used both ways.

>>57277

I mean for the person who uses it really, if you violate someones freewill to that degree you can be targeted by some serious divine intervention. Not to mention if you are within the karma system you will wreck yourself pretty hard causing this much havoc and destruction.

>>57279

I see. Best not to be used for mischief or by the immature then.

>>57207

FYI I can not read and remember well in a very low-power state but once I am recharged properly by a combination of the right food + sleep + loosh farming I can recall in perfect detail the most obscure and fleeting moments of observation in my life and furthermore I can remember things I never experienced too aka draw upon the akashic records for a reconstruction of something that has happened before e.g. lets say one day 3 months ago I was walking outside and looking forward well I could revisit that in the memory but then see what was behind and around me and recover more information from the past than what I had actually experienced consciously the first time around. I am also myopic and refuse to wear glasses so the whole world is always a blur to me but I could for example do the following:

>lets say I am in a car a week ago and there are other cars in front of me and obviously they have license plates on the back which I completely can not see because of how blurry they appear to me, I definitely can't make them out

>well, lets say I saw a red car that week with something notable about it, perhaps it has a bumper sticker on it that is really big but I can't make it out so I ask the driver or someone else in the car to tell me what it is

>so fast forward to present time right now, lets say I'm with the person again who I asked about the bumper sticker, and the guy asks me "what was the license plate on that car"

>well, I couldn't see it… you know I'm myopic… but hold on a moment

>me enters meditation and calls up the memory

>the memory will be out of focus at first but I will carefully charge it and intensify it and bring it into focus

>now I can see everything in perfect detail and I can see the license plate that in the past I was never able to actually see but since I'm viewing the whole scene with mind's eye right now, no details are missed

>I can now tell the guy I'm with what the license plate was, we could then look it up, and confirm that the detail I just got out of the past was accurate; a detail I never was even able to observe initially

Something else I should say about memory btw is that the more loosh aka emotions involved in a memory the stronger the imprint in your astral matrix. ANY event in your life which is highly emotional is easier to recall. Traumas and moments of euphoria both will stand out strongly in your memory.

If you read a book and you are not interested in it very much you won't remember it well. If you somehow manage to work up passion and concentrate your desire to read and remember the book as you do it, then you will leave a strong impression of the book in your memory, which will take a long time to fade / dissolve back into the astral.

You can recharge and vivify a memory by simply accessing it again and pouring loosh into it again. Sometimes, for some people, you can become haunted/obsessed by your memories unintentionally. It can be very hard to banish the memory of some very traumatic and invasive experiences from your mind.

You can also create correspondences / associate memories together and recall them together in that way. Different things can remind you of a memory and trigger it again.

I prefer to read my books when in the proper state of mind so as to absorb them well and create a strong enough impression that I can easily recall most of it. However it doesn't have to be absolutely perfect either; I'm not obsessed right now with getting every single detail down on the "first run over". I have methods of reaching out into the faded parts of a memory, vivifying them, and bringing them to light again.

So yeah, I complain a lot, because with my insomnia and bouts of apathy and other afflictions of the soul and body I'm reduced to loosh farming and preparing and eating food and waiting for a chance to sleep before I feel ready again to read. I also have a tendency to burn out easily, my development hasn't been all that stable, and my imbalances are fucking me over… but I will never give up the struggle as I know what's at stake is and I intend to make the most of my present incarnation before my present body expires.

At a later time I will have stabilized and perfected and fully tested out a book thoughtform whose purpose is to reproduce the text of any book, even ones I've never read. When it's ready I will be able to just read my astral thoughtformed book with my mind's eye, allowing my physical eyes to rest then, and that will be good for me. I will also move onto exploring new information sources, hunting more astral books that don't even exist as physical or digital books in our world right now, which is a very fun activity and not hard to do btw.

Bring on the butthurt.

>>57281

I can certainly agree that astral books, lectures, teachers or whatever other source of astral learning are great tools. Every magician should learn the skills of "Pulling light from darkness". By which I mean learning from internal experience. I'll probably end up doing a big writeup soon on this kind of internal work since it seems like there's a huge learning and understanding curve that's been hitting the neophytes and beginner practitioners.

>>57140

Can I get a source that isn't DARK? I am a warrior of LIGHT. Give me something RIGHT.

>>57284

Please do feel free to share your notes here so that we can see your progress.

>>57283

LHP edgelord texts, if they are based on truth and not just bullshit disinfo, will contain the underlying principles which make their workings effective. You just have to deduce the principle then make your own ritual to do the same thing minus the LHP dressings. It is usually the case though that both LHP "darkness and suffering" and RHP "love and light" are hippie/edgelord bullshit, mostly noise, little signal. The authors tend to only grasp some basic truths while filling their texts with irrelevancy and nonsense.

The best texts tend to be neutral "it can be used constructively or destructively, for bad or for good, depending on the practitioner" in tone like for example William Walker Atkinson's books.

Whatever you aspire to be, whatever your intentions, keep this in mind when assessing the value of informational sources. You can learn from the light, you can learn from the darkness, and you can also learn in the dry way too without the drama.

Can anyone remember all of the hindu terms that were used in Life Beyond Death by William Walker Atkinson? I just spent awhile going through the book searching for the terms I'm looking for but not finding it and just ended up reading again random parts of the book… don't want to have to re-read the entire book all over again to find what I'm looking for fug.

http://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1909lifebeyonddeath.pdf

tfw I need to develop a dowsing method for finding stuff

>>57284

> • physicality allows the violation of freewill between physical beings, the main reason why physical existence is a valuable experience in the path of spiritual evolution

Depending on the spiritual progression of the violated person then the results can be impermanent and be done and UNdone in a span of 30 ish years.

>>57204

http://archive.is/Jrjp9#selection-3599.0-3615.5

Book Meditations.

>>57299

The physical condition is a product of wanting to be able to interact with and experience intelligences outside of oneself to grow beyond one's previous limitations in this way. Physicality limits you but at the same time destroys your own inner-limits. It's the desire for "objectivity" that keeps us here, connected, and able to receive the influences of others.

If you want to be able to interact with others on any plane you have to accept resonance from them, accept that you can receive their words, feel them, be hit by them, etc.

If you shield yourself from everything, you lose out on the opportunity to grow, to have your weaknesses brought to light and tested, etc.

This is of course a very deep level desire, it's WAY deep in our core, but if you can reach to it then you can start messing around with it to produce various modifications with astonishing effects like being able to walk through or see through walls and turn off collision with the vibrations of all sorts of other things. You basically do this by fucking around with the metaphysical permissions system that governs physical interactions.

Why are you quoting 30 years to me btw? What's this based on, theoretical estimate, observation, a book / some source you read it in? I want to know.

Also why would they want to undo something that already has transpired?

>>57302

Because trauma doesn't have to result in ruination. It can be transmuted into growth without a deep ruination and separation from god. It is a theory based on jesus, buddha, and my own personal reawakening. I was criticized and beaten like a LOT of people. Lied to and the like. And my chi was dampened and interrupted and counterflowed and all that and now I've been reversing it since about 18 and I grow more aware of the process everyday.

To put it in the context of kundalini some people experience persecution and their kundalini is brought down and coiled aroudn their root for a long time and they become the persecutor even worse that their persecutor (whelps of the Adversary) but some people have Fortitude and more than that and the very moment their kundalini is brought to its lowest point (around 18 years or so) it does not linger but proceeds to rise up at the same pace at which it was submerged below the crown, which in my case, like Jesus and Buddha, represents its final "Death"/"Rebirth" cycle before reaching a deathless state aka nirvana.

Everyone is testing things. Luciferian experiment and Godly experiments but what I describe is the viewpoint of one who is truly to be enlightened in this lifetime.

>>57283

Information is neither good nor bad, the application of it is what is. Also if you read through the book the methods use to become a "shapeshifter" are just meditations, visualisations and the like.

>>57304

The book begins by saying "You wiill be cursed if you share this information" I'm not with that shit. They can miss me with those cursed. Even though I nutrilized them.

Do I need to unlock all my chakras before I'm able to talk to my Higher Self for advice and guidance?

The Book of Knowledge said to spend 1-2 weeks per Chakra opening each one. Just wondering if that's necessary or if it'll really take that long.

>>57309

You can speak to your higher self at any time. Though it is much easier with a good diet and opened chakras. Go into a meditative state and focus on your crown chakra. Simply place awareness there. Start to call and ask for your higher self. You will need to decipher the true voice if there are thoughtforms around you though. Then you can simply ask your questions. You may recieve answers via any of the 5 senses in visualization or even emotions.

>>57310

Just tried it. I just voiced concerns I'd put before my HS if I met him. I don't think I got any clear answer other than some wishful thinking. I'll try again later.

I believe my diet is fine, but I'll focus on opening other chakras in between other tries. Thanks for your help.

Anyone have any good detox advice/method/guides? I mean both physically and spiritually. Pineal detox as well

>>57316

Shit. The devil is a lie. I wrote out this whole thing and then like tabbed out and refreshed. I guess the devil doesn't want you to have extended info. So here is the cliffnotes because my back hurts to much to be typing this from my bed.

Vitamins: Vitamin D, Vitamin A (Now foods brand), Vitamin K (Innovix brand) These three need each other to work. Like pic related.

Calcium citrate (Now foods), Magnesium Citrate

These are for health.

Read The Beauty Detox Solution. It's wholly dope.

Stop eating dairy. 2.6 oz of dairy equals a net loss in calcium that day even if you eat 1300mg that day. The book covers that but I singled it out.

As for your Pineal gland: 1/2 tsp kelp powder (iodine) and 1/8(woman)/1/4(man) tsp of borax (a natural mineral which emulsified fat so its sold as detergent) a day. Work your way up to that does just to be safe. If your kidneys itch or whatever you're simply detoxing too quickly. Borax is 11% boron, a necessary trace mineral that completely cures arthritis for a lot of most peope. There is an inverse relationship to the amount of boron in a region's food soil and arthritis. The other 89% in boron is dirt. or something. It's natural. comes out of the ground.

Take with 1 liter of water in a capsule if possible. I tried adding it to 1 liter like some peple do and sipping but it just make me nauseaous then the fact that it smells like detergent faintly made me more nauseous.

That's all you need.

>>57314

It does take some experience and work to get the link and channel open. Once you do you can ask questions and get extremely accurate results like the exact day you will see someone next.

How do I block out remote influencing and viewing? How do I make energy shields?

>>57319

Git gud. Please no ban. Now ask how git gud for better information than you woulda got if I answered your first question.

>>57319

Everything you want to do is done on an astral level. You impress your aura field with visualization and it starts to take effect in reality. So simply you need to visualize seeing yourself right in front of you and imagine yourself covered in a bubble shield. Colour it in violet for the most effect and then start channeling in your intention that it will protect you from whatever it is you want. Pro tip for empaths to shield themselves from negative emotion

>>57319

>>57321

Thank you, I have been trying to visualize a bubble shield but I never know if to visualize in first or third person. Thanks for clearing that up. I imagine this won't work right away? Should I just channel my intent to block remote influencing? How long should I do this?

>>57322

I like visualizing self healing glass like a solid glob of glass that I sit in and can observe from. Lik a vimana.

>>57322

I find it works almost instantly but it will depend on your ability in this. If you're able to keep up the visualization for over 30 seconds it will be up by the time you're done. To perform it first person you will want to focus on your solar plexus. This is where the gate to our aura field is. Push your intention into this area and feel as if it is projecting a shield. It's extremely effective if you're around someone you do not want to interact with energetically and can't spend the time closing your eyes visualizing a shield.

Whatever intent you want you can channel into it. For the amount of time you can spend about 10-30 seconds to keep it up for about an hour or so and 5 minutes per day if you wish for it to be a 24 hour thing.

>>57327

Thanks so much, I imagine the only way I can permanently keep myself protected is with ritual magick?

>>57327

Holy shit does that mean if I do it for an hour I can have a solid shield for 12 fucking days?

>>57328

The visualization IS a ritual. It will be permanent if you keep doing it every day. And it becomes more and more ingrained into both astral and physical reality every day you do it.

>>57329

Technically yes but I instead recommend 5 minutes a day instead of a ton of time on one day. Everything is more effective when you progressively do it.

Think of it this way. You're crafting a protection thoughtform that saves all the "settings" or intentions you give it. Each time you bring it up you will be giving it more and more energy. You can also tell it to connect to your aura and give it a name that you call out whenever you need it to activate at full strength.

>>57325

Yeah I used to have a healing bubble thoughtform. It was like pain medicine and self healing on the go. I was too lazy to sit down and actually use my qi-gong so instead I just ended up crafting a thoughtform to do it hahaha.

>>57332

Much appreciation, truly I needed this. I have the psychic defense books but I could not get to them right in, especially since I am being influenced to be stressed and antsy and unable to concentrate often. Sometimes they try to instill feelings of melancholy and doubt. Fucking annoying.

How do I ascend to 4th density?

>>57321

Would negative emotions include apathy/lethargy/anything else that leads to procrastination and time wasting so I can get the important shit done?

https://youtu.be/cub6kY0oHZc?t=492

(from 8:12 to 9:58)

Is this meditation technique any good?

I have some difficulty with regular meditation techniques like the quiet mind meditation listed here >>33148

however, I have been able to do a 30min session of the strong determination sitting technique (described in the linked video) without much issue.

I want to know if the SDS technique will help me progress to the point of being able to do void meditation

Thanks in advance :)

>>57267

Thank you so much for this info

Does anyone know the book/author linked by >>57033 and its authenticity? He seems to have a website selling a bunch of things, including shit like erasing karmic debts which usually signals scam, but at least the parts of the book talking about things I already know are decently legit to actually clever, so I'm not sure whether this is a fluke.

>>57424

you're asking how, i'd rather wonder if this demon sigil bullshit ever did anything directly

>>57279

>violates someones freewill

This interests me. According to Atkinson, people that are not enlightened are hardly people, but rather personalities that disintegrate sometime after death. Are lives that are not enlightened worth anything? Is it really "against universal law" and black magick to deal with these personalities as you please? Obviously my mundane side is telling me it is unethical, but it seems more and more like non enlightened people are almost robotic machines that repeat what they want to hear. Sounds like edgelord black magick to me, but more justified.

>>57424

>making a pact with a demon to be a girl

What's with all the degeneracy here? You and the giantess tulpa guy just within the last few days. Even without making a pact to a demon you can make such degeneracy happen (ascend past physical laws and shapeshift into woman) but you would have no reason to.

How do these people even get here without seeing why what they want is wrong?

>>57426

shut the fuck up, there is nothing degenerate about becoming a girl

>>57417

First meditate and calm your mind.

Vibrate the entity's name.

Write the terms of the pact on a sheet of paper.

Scream his name with conviction, as if you were calling a friend accross the street or/and vibrate it.

Gaze at the sigil for a while while saying his name out loud or in your head (if it's in your head imagine screaming it so loud, the heavens would hear it.)

Then read the pact out loud in a firm voice.

Ask for an immediate sign to ensure he is present. (something might fall, temperature might go down, you might smell something or just have the general feeling that there is someone in here or whatever…)

Then anounce that you are rereading the pact. Reread it again. And ask him for a sign to confirm he agrees with it. If you feel something, continue, if not ask for imediate confirmation or cancel of the offer. If you don't get anything, ask for a sign to signify he want's to change the terms of the contract, proceed like this until you get a contract that suits both parties.

If you get another confirmation, sign it with a drop of your blood.

Express your thanks.

Do what you need to forget about it.

Feel free to add whatever, incense, praises, robes, use a sword/tools/whatever makes it feel more real to you,

I said add, not remove. More is better when dealing with evocation. If you need to make your room look like a hollywood scene, make it look like a hollywood scene. Don't be lazy, be convicted, express emotion but firmness and forget about it all.

Have fun. I won't judge you, everyone does stupid things. Sometimes they even turn out to be the best course of action.

>>57429

meant for: >>57424

Is there a quick way to learn a language or improve my studies in learning a language? I would like to be very well-versed as if many languages were my first language. However I do not want to forget anything.

>>57400

You have to know divine love, find self-realization and align with your higher self. This should be the first goal. Books in the MEGA and montalks site on how to do this.

>>57402

Yes

>>57426

You were once asleep and "mundane" so to speak. Imagine if before you got the chance to awaken, a big dick nigger satanist came in interrupted your fate of awakening and used black magick to turn you into his possessed butt slave instead.

>>57402

Yeah they're negative thoughtforms. You might want to try creating a servitor thoughtform which destroys all of those. Also brightening up and shielding yourself in an aura of positive emotions will help. You need to detach and rewire are that.

>>57424

I suggest thinking over this. Are you sure it's such a good idea? Is there no way you can make yourself comfortable with your current gender?